Dunne - U's defeat could have been heavier (From Essex County Standard)

Mr Honest says...
7:58pm Sat 24 Nov 12

I wasnt at the game today but Dunnes comments concern me. Sounds like we were opened up too easily. We are in a relegaton battle now and have some big games coming up with teams around us. Oldham, Walsall and Hartlepool. Next Saturday at home to Oldham is a big game now. We are conceding far too many goals. Is Clinton Morrison going to guarantee we are going to be a Championship side now? We are going the opposite way fella.

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Steve86 says...
9:36pm Sat 24 Nov 12

This is worrying times, we could have at least tried to play football. Just sounds like it wasn't only the defence that was shocking, midfield couldn't play their passing game and the strikers were non existence. I'm actually starting to worry now, the passing game can be fun to watch, but now it doesn't seem like we have the players. Where's O'Toole gone? And Wright? They seemed to be good midfielders. Also I don't rate Cousins, but this Sullivan seems like a liability too, conceding 11 goals in 4 games. Dunne please don't renew his loan contract. Also... We need flair and someone that will scare/run at the opposition defence. Thinking about it now, I don't see Col Utd as a side threatening for play-offs, and at this poor rate, we will be back down in the relegation. Dunne please, please play 442 next game, with Henderson/Eastmond/B
ean/Wordsworth(left wing) and Sears/Ibehre up front. And get a striker on loan to make some conpetition (forget about Morrison, as he just fouls people, and is too slow, and lazy) Down the U's!

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Col United says...
10:04pm Sat 24 Nov 12

I'm not a guy who feels its right criticising players. But what on earth happened today?
The blame for such performances lays on both the Manager and the Captain, it's clear there was no leadership here but the having Wordsworth as a captain no one would expect it.

Where's the fight in the defence Joe as you said there would be?

I like Steve is worrying here too, to be honest didn't see Colchester as a Play off team when Joe joined, I feel we will become a team struggling to stay away from the R-Zone we just haven't got that special flair like what we did have with Sanchez Watt.

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Mr Honest says...
11:30pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Joe Dunne told the East Anglian Daily Times today he expects Wordsworth to leave in January so I feel that he shouldnt be Captain anymore. In my opinion he isnt up to it anyway. Equally it wouldnt surprise me if a move is already lined up which would then beg the question, is he going to give it his all in games until then? We seem to have replaced one poor keeper with another. Think we need an experienced keeper who can shout. We need leaders!

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Steve86 says...
11:35pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Mr Honest wrote:
Joe Dunne told the East Anglian Daily Times today he expects Wordsworth to leave in January so I feel that he shouldnt be Captain anymore. In my opinion he isnt up to it anyway. Equally it wouldnt surprise me if a move is already lined up which would then beg the question, is he going to give it his all in games until then? We seem to have replaced one poor keeper with another. Think we need an experienced keeper who can shout. We need leaders!

I agree, why are we playing Wordsworth, if he doesn't want to play for us. Tbh I'm glad he's leaving. I also agree that we need leaders, people to motivate the players after we concede a goal, instead of waiting for Dunne to do it at half time or at the end of a game. We need someone to shout at the team throughout the game, that can see the whole pitch, so someone with vision. At the moment it just seems like, they come out firing, then lose interest.

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crazy comments says...
11:41pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Joe said we never competed, (report from the Ipswich Star). Plain simple they closed us down soon as we received the ball, but we just stood and watched them pass the ball as they wanted. To me this happens in every bl--dy game. I sincerely hope Joe gets us out of this mess with the bunch of players he has at his dispossal, but come end of season says bye bye to the majority of them.

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Col United says...
11:53pm Sat 24 Nov 12

crazy comments wrote:
Joe said we never competed, (report from the Ipswich Star). Plain simple they closed us down soon as we received the ball, but we just stood and watched them pass the ball as they wanted. To me this happens in every bl--dy game. I sincerely hope Joe gets us out of this mess with the bunch of players he has at his dispossal, but come end of season says bye bye to the majority of them.

Agree.

Also agree with Steve and Honest. Joe told the Look East BBC news that too about Wordsworth... So should he be playing?

Like crazy said many need to go, and hopefully we see some new faces in January that will give us fans something something to cheer about.

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Layer Road Exile says...
6:56am Sun 25 Nov 12

Our results and performances are becoming reminiscent of our Suffolk neighbours. As Ipswich have shown, you cannot pack a side with inexperienced loanees and expect passion and cohesion. Ipswich now have an experienced manager who can sort the mess out but I'm not sure that Dunne and Kinsella will. It all seems to be raw enthusiasm and one style of play regardless of the opposition. Having only seen us at Chelmsford, MK and vs Coventry, we have a major challenge on our hands to stay in this league.

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angryman!!! says...
10:28am Sun 25 Nov 12

I don't think we will go down. But I can't see us doing any better then about 16th. Carrying far to many players. Then the players with real class pick and chose their games.we need a big clear out.
Feel sorry for jd as he hasn't changed much about the team and its can from sublime to ridiculous. Yesterday was another embarrassing game to go to, so close to games like Crewe, Chelmsford and Shrewsbury aswel as notts county and Coventry home games makes you wonder why bother!

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mojo51 says...
11:09am Sun 25 Nov 12

So Joe drops Rose for the MK Dons game, but Rose is not the only problem with our defense.
Wilson defensively has been poor this season and Magnus is just awful at (Positionally plus his man marking and I am not going to get started on his passing, sorry hoofing of the ball). I just do not see how he gets in the squad. Eastman also had a poor game by giving that sloppy back pass and the penalty.
Have to agree with others on here about Sullivan, does not seem any better than Cousins (never understood why Pentney was not given a chance).
Joe needs to be strong and rebuild our defense, sooner rather than later. Potts is a good signing but he alone is not going to stop the rot at the back.
Personally would like to see Wilson and Magnus dropped for the next game.
Please ,please shake it up Joe as our defensive results at present are going to see us struggling.

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super waluigi says...
1:08pm Sun 25 Nov 12

One word........ Izzet.

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crazy comments says...
1:47pm Sun 25 Nov 12

super waluigi wrote:
One word........ Izzet.

My answer to that super is one word Pizzet.

Nothing against Kim, terrific servant to the club, but now the old wood defintley needs to be pruned. A few of the older players,some Ward re signed, need to be moved on,so that Joe then has room to free up wages to sign fresh players that he thinks will fit into his system. Players like Heath.Izzet and Dugie are not div one players, and should have never been given fresh contracts.

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angryman!!! says...
2:25pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Izzet is deff not the answer. What has done in the last couple of seasons??? Yes he battles hard but so does bean, bond otoole all of which are technically better.
I agree about Wilson, think he's not really shown much and Magnus as good as we know he can be has been very poor so far. I think Eastman criticism is a bit undue think out of all the defence he's been the one to rely on. Also thought rose shouldn't be made a scape goat because of of 4 defenders playing recently he's by no means worst.

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super waluigi says...
3:31pm Sun 25 Nov 12

crazy comments wrote:

super waluigi wrote:
One word........ Izzet.
My answer to that super is one word Pizzet.

Nothing against Kim, terrific servant to the club, but now the old wood defintley needs to be pruned. A few of the older players,some Ward re signed, need to be moved on,so that Joe then has room to free up wages to sign fresh players that he thinks will fit into his system. Players like Heath.Izzet and Dugie are not div one players, and should have never been given fresh contracts.

Hi Crazy, I agree that he is not getting any younger, but he is a defensive minded midfielder that allows all of the other midfielders to go forward. He also covers the full backs when the go up the pitch. No other midfielder on our roster has the same effect on our game, regardless of the technical ability, age or fitness. There may be better and younger versions of him, but not at our club.

I have said it before, and I will say it again, Izzet is the best player in our club for positioning. He is the one player that a cleared corner would fall to. Sadly, he is the one player that cannot shoot or play match winning passes. But getting in defensive positions, he is ace.

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crazy comments says...
4:18pm Sun 25 Nov 12

super waluigi wrote:

crazy comments wrote:
super waluigi wrote: One word........ Izzet.
My answer to that super is one word Pizzet. Nothing against Kim, terrific servant to the club, but now the old wood defintley needs to be pruned. A few of the older players,some Ward re signed, need to be moved on,so that Joe then has room to free up wages to sign fresh players that he thinks will fit into his system. Players like Heath.Izzet and Dugie are not div one players, and should have never been given fresh contracts.
Hi Crazy, I agree that he is not getting any younger, but he is a defensive minded midfielder that allows all of the other midfielders to go forward. He also covers the full backs when the go up the pitch. No other midfielder on our roster has the same effect on our game, regardless of the technical ability, age or fitness. There may be better and younger versions of him, but not at our club. I have said it before, and I will say it again, Izzet is the best player in our club for positioning. He is the one player that a cleared corner would fall to. Sadly, he is the one player that cannot shoot or play match winning passes. But getting in defensive positions, he is ace.

I have to agree 100% with you Luigi on those points. I wished Kim was 5 years younger that's all . I think Joe will recall him once fully fit so nothing would please me more than to see him shore the defence up and prove me wrong. I have nothing pesonal against Kim, but Div 1 is a very hard demanding league.

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We're not singing anymore!!! says...
6:37pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Let's get real please!!!!!! It's hardly a surprise that we got thumped 5-1. The defence has looked poor all season. Even Bury looked like they could have scored against us. The only surprise should be is that it didn't happen sooner. But it was against MK Dons who are now 2nd in the league and looking for promotion, so it did take a side with more quality to do actually do it.

Sullivan isn't to blame, it's the four people that are so called defenders that stand in front of him. We could have Joe Hart in goal and still look poor defensively.

I think the defensive problems all stem from John Ward and it's going to take Joe a while before he gets it fixed but he's more than aware of the issues and I believe he'll keep us up. Yes it's going to be tough but we have to help by getting behind the team.

With all due respect, Kem is not the answer. A player who was like Kem 5 years ago is the answer.

Everyone in the team needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask are they playing to the best of their ability, I would be surprised if more than 3 or 4 could say they were.

We need to unite again as a team, management and fans and cheer on the U's through these tough times.

UP THE U's!!!!!!!!!!

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Col United says...
11:50pm Sun 25 Nov 12

I also don't think Kem is the answer, he has been a legend for the U's but the age has caught up with him and I can't see him doing anything on the pitch to change motivation. But!, coaching wise in the defensive view may help from Izzet because let's face it the coaching staff at getting that very wrong.

There are players on the pitch who could make this club move forward only if they performed to their best ability, like Henderson, Sears, Wordsworth, Magnus to name a few instead of just enjoying the pay slips coming through.

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wellnow says...
8:18am Mon 26 Nov 12

payment by results is the only answer.

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BlueandWhiteBaz says...
1:56pm Mon 26 Nov 12

I think Joe himself is partly responsible for the size of the defeat. He made a change to each of the facets of the side, defence, midfield and attack. Only the replacement of Ibehre was necessary. This game was not one in which to blood a new left back and, as a youngster, should have been on the bench for this game. Also, Bean has not done an awful lot wrong for me and so why he had to play Bond, a non league player through and through beats me. I think JD is beginning to pay the penalty for making too many changes too quickly and the players now feel very unsecure. Not a good recipe to develop the much needed harmony, in my opinion, that is essential in any team game. Take a look at yourself first Joe, would be my advice.

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United we stand says...
4:09pm Mon 26 Nov 12

I only saw the 'lowlights' on tv on Saturday night. The defence, yet again, was a nightmare. Any team doing their homework and having forwards with a little guile, will rip us apart time and time again.
I have been a critic of Rose & Wilson for sometime now. We got rid of one for this match, and it didn't seem to improve things. Worrying!
I'm not sure Sullivan should be the subject of too much blame. He's pulled out a few first-class saves whilst with us. Where do we go from here on the goalkeeping front? Worrying!
Eastman had a horrible afternoon. This won't help his confidence. Worrying!
Was Magnus playing? I didn't even notice him on the tv snippets. Worrying!
Andy Bond preferred to others in midfield. Worrying!
An untried young-defender preferred to those already on the books against a team of MK's potential. Team-selection: Worrying!
A forward-line that, at best, is in-ept. Worrying!
Joe and Mark are honest individuals who I feel have the 'Colchester heartbeat'. I do feel they are being let down by the majority of players at present, few of whom seem capable of translating any 'Colchester heartbeat' they may have, into consistent and passionate play. Worrying!
Away form poor; WHCS hardly a fortress: WORRYING!

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SamPR says...
4:47pm Mon 26 Nov 12

I also believe there has been too many changes - new left back was at fault for the first goal and looked light weight. But I think the major problem is there are FAR too many loan players. There is no consistency. A loan player will not wear the Colchester shirt with pride. The team spirit in the dressing room will be changing with every new face (which there have been many!) coming in. I also cannot work out how the club can afford to fund all these loan players. Feel Dunne is losing the plot. He needs to form a team with a backbone of Colchester players and just a small mix of loan players to make it work. Bring in O'Toole, Coker, White - what have you got to lose Joe?!!

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Col United says...
6:58pm Mon 26 Nov 12

SamPR wrote:
I also believe there has been too many changes - new left back was at fault for the first goal and looked light weight. But I think the major problem is there are FAR too many loan players. There is no consistency. A loan player will not wear the Colchester shirt with pride. The team spirit in the dressing room will be changing with every new face (which there have been many!) coming in. I also cannot work out how the club can afford to fund all these loan players. Feel Dunne is losing the plot. He needs to form a team with a backbone of Colchester players and just a small mix of loan players to make it work. Bring in O'Toole, Coker, White - what have you got to lose Joe?!!

True, why not try the youngsters that Ward saw Drey Wright, Alex Gilbey, Feddie Ladapo etc. In friendlies they to me looked very impressive and Ladapo himself has flair.

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Toecap Joe says...
7:23pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Agree completely with above comments made by Col United. I have seen all of the first team home games and several away this season (inc MK Dons) plus most U18 and U21 games and I cannot understand why certain youngsters have not been given a chance. Last Sat was an ideal opportunity to play Ladapo, Wright or even Bonne as central striker. They may lack experience and strength but they make up for this with pace and hunger (both characteristics lacked by Morrison!)
Also must say that I have never seen a Col U youngster with a much potential as Alex Gilbey. I know they are young but so is Stirling at Liverpool. Give them a chance!

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We're not singing anymore!!! says...
7:32pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Bringing in the youngsters would damage their confidence the way the results are going. Plus the way everyone is quick to judge or shout when things are not going well they would end up being a bundle of nerves.

Joe has only been in charge for a couple of months. We've got to give him time. The transfer window is closed and the only way to strengthen the team is to bring in the loan players. It's clear that he doesn't think the likes of O'Toole, Coker and White are up to the standard we need and he must see that day in, day out, in training.

This season needs to be seen as either fighting for survival or just a write off. Lets see what Joe does next season and judge him on that.

Let's get behind the team and cheer them on through these tough times.

Up the U's

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crazy comments says...
7:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Having read carefully through all the blogs on this forum, the majority of people have tried to put in what they feel is partly going wrong and what they feel could be done to put it right. So many iffs and butts to choose from. Even myself was surprised that we signed another left back on loan when we have John White and Ben Coker two players that are more than capable of holding their own, and I think should have been given their chances. We supporters however at the end of the day, have to back the managers judgement over our own. Most people blogging on here know that I try to watch as many games as I can possible during the season which gives me a great insight to how other teams play and operate. Without any doubt in my mind and ive said it time and time again on here, the U's players are not at the top in fitness. Just as an example if you have a vidoe of the Hull game at Layer Road 2006 when we got five goals it shows 4 Colchester players closing down a Hull player who has the ball. We win the ball,its flung over into the middle first time for Cureton who moves into a unmarked position so quick to control and wham goal. Its all about being that yard faster in getting to the ball. When I watch the U's warm ups with that stupid piggy in the middle shirade and Morrison in the middle pracing around ,then i think im at a circus. I feel that want to go onto the pitch and tell the training staff get the players doing short fast sprints and I mean fast, not just half hearted half pace. I've played and been involved in enough football to know what fitness is. Once that sorted then get players in that can play to a plan. Joe tried to do that straight away with three good loan signings. The last three I will refrain from judging on till I see them all play. Magnus at the moment seems lost, and for me the best football from him was when he was partnered with Paul Reid. He needs someone beside him with direction and positioning sense. I have every faith that Joe will save us from the drop,but he will have to be very hard and ruthless with his dealing of players come end of season. I think he must come up with more ideas on how tactics can be changed during a coarse of a game. We gave away silly games when winning on each occasion 2 0 at both Crewe and Shrewsbury. Often in games like this when winning you then need to bring in a sweeper to bolster the defence to defend the lead. Overall we all love our team and all want to be team manager.(Bill ) Coventry supporter last week blogged on this site in praising the United supporters on this fantastic site. It seems the Coventry city web site is much like the Southampton Echo web site poisnous with crude and vile comments to each other about players and manager. I think we should all be proud of ourselves that it rarely if ever happens on this site. Lets all keep supporting the U's win or lose. Sorry to bore you all but i cant stand watching TV.

Having read carefully through all the blogs on this forum, the majority of people have tried to put in what they feel is partly going wrong and what they feel could be done to put it right. So many iffs and butts to choose from. Even myself was surprised that we signed another left back on loan when we have John White and Ben Coker two players that are more than capable of holding their own, and I think should have been given their chances. We supporters however at the end of the day, have to back the managers judgement over our own. Most people blogging on here know that I try to watch as many games as I can possible during the season which gives me a great insight to how other teams play and operate. Without any doubt in my mind and ive said it time and time again on here, the U's players are not at the top in fitness. Just as an example if you have a vidoe of the Hull game at Layer Road 2006 when we got five goals it shows 4 Colchester players closing down a Hull player who has the ball. We win the ball,its flung over into the middle first time for Cureton who moves into a unmarked position so quick to control and wham goal. Its all about being that yard faster in getting to the ball. When I watch the U's warm ups with that stupid piggy in the middle shirade and Morrison in the middle pracing around ,then i think im at a circus. I feel that want to go onto the pitch and tell the training staff get the players doing short fast sprints and I mean fast, not just half hearted half pace. I've played and been involved in enough football to know what fitness is. Once that sorted then get players in that can play to a plan. Joe tried to do that straight away with three good loan signings. The last three I will refrain from judging on till I see them all play. Magnus at the moment seems lost, and for me the best football from him was when he was partnered with Paul Reid. He needs someone beside him with direction and positioning sense. I have every faith that Joe will save us from the drop,but he will have to be very hard and ruthless with his dealing of players come end of season. I think he must come up with more ideas on how tactics can be changed during a coarse of a game. We gave away silly games when winning on each occasion 2 0 at both Crewe and Shrewsbury. Often in games like this when winning you then need to bring in a sweeper to bolster the defence to defend the lead. Overall we all love our team and all want to be team manager.(Bill ) Coventry supporter last week blogged on this site in praising the United supporters on this fantastic site. It seems the Coventry city web site is much like the Southampton Echo web site poisnous with crude and vile comments to each other about players and manager. I think we should all be proud of ourselves that it rarely if ever happens on this site. Lets all keep supporting the U's win or lose. Sorry to bore you all but i cant stand watching TV. crazy comments

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Toecap Joe says...
8:04pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Have no problem with giving Joe the time as I think he's trying to change the whole approach and has had a lot of success so far. Bringing a young player into the team would not damage his confidence - the reverse in fact! Even if it did, it's part of the steep learning curve to becoming an experienced player!

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Clacc says...
9:46pm Mon 26 Nov 12

"It's clear that he doesn't think the likes of O'Toole, Coker and White are up to the standard we need and he must see that day in, day out, in training."

And anyone who goes to reserve games will also know it.

crazy comments says...
7:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12

I'm sure that you make some valid points mate - you usually do. But that was unreadable for me. Paragraphs please. Cheers

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We're not singing anymore!!! says...
11:12pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Toecap Joe wrote:
Have no problem with giving Joe the time as I think he's trying to change the whole approach and has had a lot of success so far. Bringing a young player into the team would not damage his confidence - the reverse in fact! Even if it did, it's part of the steep learning curve to becoming an experienced player!

Toecap Joe......
I don't want to be rude because we are all entitled to our opinions. But you only have to look at other clubs to know they don't bring their youngsters in too early.

Very few make it at a very young age.

It's usually the one's that have exceptional talent who are given that chance and also when they are surrounded by experienced players who can take the pressure away from them or give them a bit of guidance on the pitch. Unfortunately, we don't have that luxury at the moment.

They might get their chance towards the end of the season. Hopefully when we're safe and don't have too much to play for.

To bring them in now with the fans so quick to get on their backs it would damage their confidence and it's something they might never recover from.

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25414nora says...
11:23am Tue 27 Nov 12

super waluigi wrote:
One word........ Izzet.

Absolutely!...Super waluigi, One of the very few on here, who know what they are talking about.

Kem, (at this level) still has a lot to offer, in midfield he has a strong influence on the younger players.

Kem can hold the ball, play the square pass, invite a team mate to take a forward position, talk to players, and generally link defence with midfield.

At any level of football, a good side should be built from a strong defence, if you dont concede you dont lose.

I dont agree that loan players are not motovated, they know if they do well, they put themselves in the shop window.

I think not playing Rose last week was a mistake. The manager seems to be trying to please everyone, and ending up pleasing nobody.

Joe Dunne should be his own man, make his own selections, not pander to the public bar pundits.

A top ten place looks to be out of reach at the moment, especially if we dont stop the rot in defence.

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Col United says...
8:03pm Tue 27 Nov 12

25414nora wrote:

super waluigi wrote:
One word........ Izzet.
Absolutely!...Super waluigi, One of the very few on here, who know what they are talking about.

Kem, (at this level) still has a lot to offer, in midfield he has a strong influence on the younger players.

Kem can hold the ball, play the square pass, invite a team mate to take a forward position, talk to players, and generally link defence with midfield.

At any level of football, a good side should be built from a strong defence, if you dont concede you dont lose.

I dont agree that loan players are not motovated, they know if they do well, they put themselves in the shop window.

I think not playing Rose last week was a mistake. The manager seems to be trying to please everyone, and ending up pleasing nobody.

Joe Dunne should be his own man, make his own selections, not pander to the public bar pundits.

A top ten place looks to be out of reach at the moment, especially if we dont stop the rot in defence.

Kem yeah he use to be good. Regarded as a legend but now he would be out paced, low on fitness wouldn't help the team at all because of he's age, he was poor last season and he's tackles were reckless. Eastmond for me was a great move, this player has good potential and has clearly shown that Izzet is not required.

I agree with you in relation to Loanee's, of course they are motivated, they want to do the best of their ability to be recognised by their parent club.

Disagree on your comment regarding that dunne shouldn't listen to Pundits. That's a load of rubbish. Pundits/ Supporters etc are the the backbone of the club, the people who pay the wages of each and everyone out there. They should have their say if they find weaknesses which Dunne cannot see. I'm not questioning he's judgement, if a customer came to me and told me a better way of doing my job I would listen to them and take their advice. Implementation is another question.

[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: One word........ Izzet.[/p][/quote]Absolutely!...Super waluigi, One of the very few on here, who know what they are talking about. Kem, (at this level) still has a lot to offer, in midfield he has a strong influence on the younger players. Kem can hold the ball, play the square pass, invite a team mate to take a forward position, talk to players, and generally link defence with midfield. At any level of football, a good side should be built from a strong defence, if you dont concede you dont lose. I dont agree that loan players are not motovated, they know if they do well, they put themselves in the shop window. I think not playing Rose last week was a mistake. The manager seems to be trying to please everyone, and ending up pleasing nobody. Joe Dunne should be his own man, make his own selections, not pander to the public bar pundits. A top ten place looks to be out of reach at the moment, especially if we dont stop the rot in defence.[/p][/quote]Kem yeah he use to be good. Regarded as a legend but now he would be out paced, low on fitness wouldn't help the team at all because of he's age, he was poor last season and he's tackles were reckless. Eastmond for me was a great move, this player has good potential and has clearly shown that Izzet is not required. I agree with you in relation to Loanee's, of course they are motivated, they want to do the best of their ability to be recognised by their parent club. Disagree on your comment regarding that dunne shouldn't listen to Pundits. That's a load of rubbish. Pundits/ Supporters etc are the the backbone of the club, the people who pay the wages of each and everyone out there. They should have their say if they find weaknesses which Dunne cannot see. I'm not questioning he's judgement, if a customer came to me and told me a better way of doing my job I would listen to them and take their advice. Implementation is another question. Col United

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Boris says...
8:06pm Tue 27 Nov 12

All we need to do is finish in the top 20.
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Meanwhile, bring back John White, he will always play his heart out. And of course Kem, as soon as he is ready.
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And give Pentney his chance in goal. What is the point in having a loan goalie and then loaning out our own keeper who has played at Championship level but has yet to make his debut for us?
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And the youngsters like Ladapo should be given their chance. Sink or swim.
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And no more games for Wordsworth. JD says he knows he is going to lose him. If he goes in January, that will mean some money to buy in a new player. But if he is injured, nobody will buy him, and he will go on a free in the summer.

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crazy comments says...
8:10pm Tue 27 Nov 12

Clacc wrote:
"It's clear that he doesn't think the likes of O'Toole, Coker and White are up to the standard we need and he must see that day in, day out, in training." And anyone who goes to reserve games will also know it. crazy comments says... 7:54pm Mon 26 Nov 12 I'm sure that you make some valid points mate - you usually do. But that was unreadable for me. Paragraphs please. Cheers

Never have been a scholar and never will be. I had a job spelling my own name when at school and i'm still strugling.

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We're not singing anymore!!! says...
2:51pm Wed 28 Nov 12

All this talk of bringing the youngsters in is ridiculous. You wouldn't expect a youth trainee to come into a company and start running it as an executive. You start them off on something easier. It's the same with the youth players. You bring them on for a couple of minutes at the end of a game when the points are already safe.

At the moment the games are usually too tight to bring on one of the younger players, in case they do make a mistake and cost us a goal. If that did happen the fans would then say what a mistake Joe made by bringing them on.

I don't attend the reserve games so it's hard for me to comment on if John White and others are good enough to be given a chance. The fact that Joe isn't picking them and they're not even coming on as a sub tells me they're not good enough.

I still have confidence in Joe to keep us safe. The team just needs to work a little harder and hope for a little bit of luck.

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Boris says...
3:44pm Wed 28 Nov 12

The history of football is littered with successful players who started young. Random examples: Steven Gerrard, age 18. Our own Bobby Hunt, age 17.
As for our mistakes leading to opposition goals, our experienced players are masters of that art.
John White played very well when we were in the Championship, and he is still only 26 and therefore not slowing up yet.
Managers develop likes and dislikes for certain players. This was abundantly evident under Paul Lambert, Aidy Boothroyd and to a lesser extent under John Ward. I suggest that, for whatever reason, JD just doesn't like the cut of Johnny White's jib. Managers ought to get over these personal prejudices.
The U's already benefit from a bit of luck. As JD says in the report above, it could have been 10-1 rather than 5-1.
JD can make his players step up the work rate, but can he teach them the skills to score goals? I doubt if any manager can do that.
If he could teach them to tighten up the defence, that would be a colossal step forward.

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We're not singing anymore!!! says...
12:27am Thu 29 Nov 12

Boris wrote:
The history of football is littered with successful players who started young. Random examples: Steven Gerrard, age 18. Our own Bobby Hunt, age 17.
As for our mistakes leading to opposition goals, our experienced players are masters of that art.
John White played very well when we were in the Championship, and he is still only 26 and therefore not slowing up yet.
Managers develop likes and dislikes for certain players. This was abundantly evident under Paul Lambert, Aidy Boothroyd and to a lesser extent under John Ward. I suggest that, for whatever reason, JD just doesn't like the cut of Johnny White's jib. Managers ought to get over these personal prejudices.
The U's already benefit from a bit of luck. As JD says in the report above, it could have been 10-1 rather than 5-1.
JD can make his players step up the work rate, but can he teach them the skills to score goals? I doubt if any manager can do that.
If he could teach them to tighten up the defence, that would be a colossal step forward.

If you would have read my previous post further up you would have noticed I said that only exceptional players make the team at a young age. I bet if you look at the percentage of young players who break into team compared to the ones that don't you'll find it a very small percentage.

From what I've seen of White in the past I always thought he was a good player but it's been a few years now since we were playing in the Championship. I don't know why he's not getting picked but clearly he's not good enough as both Ward and Dunne haven't picked him & I think it comes down to a lot more than just a dislike of him. If there really was a personal prejudice against him he would be loaned out or made to train with the youth team.

Dunne has only been in charge for a couple of months. Lets judge him after he's had a chance to bring in the players he wants. We're still in a better position than we was with Ward.

[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: The history of football is littered with successful players who started young. Random examples: Steven Gerrard, age 18. Our own Bobby Hunt, age 17. As for our mistakes leading to opposition goals, our experienced players are masters of that art. John White played very well when we were in the Championship, and he is still only 26 and therefore not slowing up yet. Managers develop likes and dislikes for certain players. This was abundantly evident under Paul Lambert, Aidy Boothroyd and to a lesser extent under John Ward. I suggest that, for whatever reason, JD just doesn't like the cut of Johnny White's jib. Managers ought to get over these personal prejudices. The U's already benefit from a bit of luck. As JD says in the report above, it could have been 10-1 rather than 5-1. JD can make his players step up the work rate, but can he teach them the skills to score goals? I doubt if any manager can do that. If he could teach them to tighten up the defence, that would be a colossal step forward.[/p][/quote]If you would have read my previous post further up you would have noticed I said that only exceptional players make the team at a young age. I bet if you look at the percentage of young players who break into team compared to the ones that don't you'll find it a very small percentage. From what I've seen of White in the past I always thought he was a good player but it's been a few years now since we were playing in the Championship. I don't know why he's not getting picked but clearly he's not good enough as both Ward and Dunne haven't picked him & I think it comes down to a lot more than just a dislike of him. If there really was a personal prejudice against him he would be loaned out or made to train with the youth team. Dunne has only been in charge for a couple of months. Lets judge him after he's had a chance to bring in the players he wants. We're still in a better position than we was with Ward. We're not singing anymore!!!

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Boris says...
6:39pm Thu 29 Nov 12

Fine, I don't want to polemicise too much, the important thing is that our team survives in League 1.
Some ex-U's players go on to kickstart their careers elsewhere, and that remains an option for any of the current team. So, success to all our players, here or elsewhere, and...
Up the U's.

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