Dunne rues controversial decision

Essex County Standard: Unhappy - Joe Dunne believes Coventry's second goal in their 3-1 win over Colchester United should not have stood. Unhappy - Joe Dunne believes Coventry's second goal in their 3-1 win over Colchester United should not have stood.

Colchester United manager Joe Dunne could not hide his disappointment after seeing his side beaten 3-1 at home by Coventry City.

The U’s were left aggrieved after William Edjenguele’s header was controversially allowed to stand for the Sky Blues, despite the assistant referee initially flagging Gary McSheffrey offside.

Colchester were already trailing to Franck Moussa’s goal by that point and went in 2-0 down at the break.

And although Tom Eastman’s header from Anthony Wordsworth’s free-kick with 19 minutes to go gave them hope, David McGoldrick’s tidy finish with two minutes to go sealed the points for the Sky Blues.

Dunne said: “I believe Coventry’s second goal was offside and he (the assistant referee) has put the flag up straight away.

“I think the assistant overruled himself with his flag still in the air.

“I always made a promise to myself as a manager to never get aggressive with officials and I think that they have a hard job.

“But we’ve had a couple of calls now in the last three games that have aided us not being able to win the game.

“It’s very disappointing because I thought up until the first goal, we were well in the game.”

Dunne felt the final scoreline was harsh on his side but admitted Coventry’s class told in the end.

“I don’t think 3-1 was a fair reflection of the game and that’s not being disrespectful to Coventry,” added the U’s boss.

“Their quality told in the end but there’s a way to lose football matches.

“I knew the initial part of the game would be tough and it was a bit tight.

“Both teams were cancelling each other out at times but I felt we were just starting to get a foothold on the game.

“We tested their goalkeeper and hit the bar and we also had a goal chalked off.

“I think that was the right decision but we were well on top.

“But then they broke quickly and all of a sudden, we were 1-0 down.

“It was a lapse in concentration and unfortunately, that’s been a bit of an Achilles heel for us of late.

“If it had stayed at 1-0 we’re still well in the game but I think the second goal changed the whole complexion of it.

“I felt we could get back into it though and after we scored, Brian Wilson had a great chance at the back post which the keeper made a great save from.

“We asked questions from their back four and got into good areas but in the end, class was the difference and (David) McGoldrick is an excellent player at this level.”

For a full match report and pictures from the U’s game with Coventry, see Wednesday’s Daily Gazette.

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10:55pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Steve86 says...

Agree Dunne, the officals were shocking to say the least. But Dunne I think you need to start looking for a replacement for Watt. Since he got injured, we have provided less chances to score. He used to run at players too. The passing game is all well and good, but you then need someone that will then sprint with the ball through players, and make deadly crosses across goals like Coventry did.
Agree Dunne, the officals were shocking to say the least. But Dunne I think you need to start looking for a replacement for Watt. Since he got injured, we have provided less chances to score. He used to run at players too. The passing game is all well and good, but you then need someone that will then sprint with the ball through players, and make deadly crosses across goals like Coventry did. Steve86
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11:56pm Tue 20 Nov 12

We're not singing anymore!!! says...

Steve86 wrote:
Agree Dunne, the officals were shocking to say the least. But Dunne I think you need to start looking for a replacement for Watt. Since he got injured, we have provided less chances to score. He used to run at players too. The passing game is all well and good, but you then need someone that will then sprint with the ball through players, and make deadly crosses across goals like Coventry did.
Completely agree Steve86.

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Rose is not a defender. He looks ok going forward but is so poor when it comes to defending. Please give someone else a chance. The rest of the defence looks a joke too. Every single attack by any other teams looks like it's going to result in a goal

I'm still behind Joe and the team but if we're not careful, we're going to be dragged back into a relegation battle.

Up the U's.
[quote][p][bold]Steve86[/bold] wrote: Agree Dunne, the officals were shocking to say the least. But Dunne I think you need to start looking for a replacement for Watt. Since he got injured, we have provided less chances to score. He used to run at players too. The passing game is all well and good, but you then need someone that will then sprint with the ball through players, and make deadly crosses across goals like Coventry did.[/p][/quote]Completely agree Steve86. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Rose is not a defender. He looks ok going forward but is so poor when it comes to defending. Please give someone else a chance. The rest of the defence looks a joke too. Every single attack by any other teams looks like it's going to result in a goal I'm still behind Joe and the team but if we're not careful, we're going to be dragged back into a relegation battle. Up the U's. We're not singing anymore!!!
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12:16am Wed 21 Nov 12

Col United says...

I agree with the above comments, a replacement for watt is required we haven't been the same team since he got injured.

Also that Rose is no good in defence, he's passing needs to be better too. I feel that Rose could be a good winger as he does have a little flair, and it's clear that he is attack minded, he could grab a few goals too.
I agree with the above comments, a replacement for watt is required we haven't been the same team since he got injured. Also that Rose is no good in defence, he's passing needs to be better too. I feel that Rose could be a good winger as he does have a little flair, and it's clear that he is attack minded, he could grab a few goals too. Col United
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12:45am Wed 21 Nov 12

Steve86 says...

On the points about Rose. I agree with you and I have been saying this for a while. Play him down the wing and perhaps put Johnny White at leftback or Coker. But again we need a winger that will threaten and frighten the defence, I feel that Massey try's it but is inexperienced enough and lost the ball on occasions. Sears seems good going down the wing though. I say bring in Mark Yeates on loan.
On the points about Rose. I agree with you and I have been saying this for a while. Play him down the wing and perhaps put Johnny White at leftback or Coker. But again we need a winger that will threaten and frighten the defence, I feel that Massey try's it but is inexperienced enough and lost the ball on occasions. Sears seems good going down the wing though. I say bring in Mark Yeates on loan. Steve86
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2:35pm Wed 21 Nov 12

SamPR says...

I don't know how long Dunne will keep Rose at left back. Quite agree that he is better going forward but his defending is shocking. Coker has not been given a chance this season. He is technically good, defends well, doesn't lose the ball and can deliver good crosses. Dunne, don't be stubborn like your predecessor and stick with Rose - give the lad a chance!
I don't know how long Dunne will keep Rose at left back. Quite agree that he is better going forward but his defending is shocking. Coker has not been given a chance this season. He is technically good, defends well, doesn't lose the ball and can deliver good crosses. Dunne, don't be stubborn like your predecessor and stick with Rose - give the lad a chance! SamPR
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3:50pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Ozzie says...

Agree with all previous comments. I would love to see Ben Coker come back into the side. And even when Mr Rose gets forward, he cannot cross the ball, often over-hitting it or hitting it flat at the defence. We also need a sure-footed left winger to take on the opposition defence and provide crosses to our forward/s. Up the U's!
Agree with all previous comments. I would love to see Ben Coker come back into the side. And even when Mr Rose gets forward, he cannot cross the ball, often over-hitting it or hitting it flat at the defence. We also need a sure-footed left winger to take on the opposition defence and provide crosses to our forward/s. Up the U's! Ozzie
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5:00pm Wed 21 Nov 12

United we stand says...

Last night's game was dominated by the officials, unfortunately.
Like most others, I didn't feel that we deserved the 1-3 scoreline although I don't necessarily agree with a number of fans on BBC Essex after the match who thought we were uninspiring.
The passing game is fine but we don't have enough movement ahead of it and the service to forwards (maybe as a consequence of this) was poor, especially in the first half. The Sky Blues found their men with balls to their feet so much more effectively than us. This seemed to be the main difference between the two sides.
It's plain to see, every match, that our defence is brittle and the full-backs (both of them) are weak both in defending and in distribution of the ball. It beats me how Rose, in particular, keeps his place in the team when other squad members could be given the chance to show their worth.
WHCS is a much better place to be since the new regime took over (it could hardly be otherwise) but I also fear that we will be flirting with the relegation zone for too long this season and the best we can hope for from another disappointing season is to steer ourselves far enough away from the bottom four to make the last few games academic.
Such aspirations, hey?!
Last night's game was dominated by the officials, unfortunately. Like most others, I didn't feel that we deserved the 1-3 scoreline although I don't necessarily agree with a number of fans on BBC Essex after the match who thought we were uninspiring. The passing game is fine but we don't have enough movement ahead of it and the service to forwards (maybe as a consequence of this) was poor, especially in the first half. The Sky Blues found their men with balls to their feet so much more effectively than us. This seemed to be the main difference between the two sides. It's plain to see, every match, that our defence is brittle and the full-backs (both of them) are weak both in defending and in distribution of the ball. It beats me how Rose, in particular, keeps his place in the team when other squad members could be given the chance to show their worth. WHCS is a much better place to be since the new regime took over (it could hardly be otherwise) but I also fear that we will be flirting with the relegation zone for too long this season and the best we can hope for from another disappointing season is to steer ourselves far enough away from the bottom four to make the last few games academic. Such aspirations, hey?! United we stand
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8:54pm Wed 21 Nov 12

25414nora says...

'Hey' a lot of AGREEMENT going on here. Sounds almost like meeting of the 'Masonic Lodge'..'Still' glad you lot left Wordy, and Hendo alone this week.
Supose it was Rosey's turn to recieve the flak this time. I thought the ref robbed us of a good goal.. But I reckon their second goal was given because the guy who was offside, was deemed, not interfeering with play. Only a 3,000 crowd again, not good..Up the Us.
'Hey' a lot of AGREEMENT going on here. Sounds almost like meeting of the 'Masonic Lodge'..'Still' glad you lot left Wordy, and Hendo alone this week. Supose it was Rosey's turn to recieve the flak this time. I thought the ref robbed us of a good goal.. But I reckon their second goal was given because the guy who was offside, was deemed, not interfeering with play. Only a 3,000 crowd again, not good..Up the Us. 25414nora
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9:23pm Wed 21 Nov 12

Col United says...

Nora, by the looks of it supporters on here find weaknesses and finding it in Rose in that game was rightly so.

Are you telling me that you enjoy watching him play, and feel he is a good defender? because surely you are not watching the game the majority on here watch.

Also we were not robbed of a goal as it was a defection from Jabo who was unfortunately offside.
Nora, by the looks of it supporters on here find weaknesses and finding it in Rose in that game was rightly so. Are you telling me that you enjoy watching him play, and feel he is a good defender? because surely you are not watching the game the majority on here watch. Also we were not robbed of a goal as it was a defection from Jabo who was unfortunately offside. Col United
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9:41pm Wed 21 Nov 12

super waluigi says...

Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic.

Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will.

I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK????

I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom.
Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will).
If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season.
When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them.

Give him some time.
Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic. Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will. I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK???? I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom. Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will). If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season. When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them. Give him some time. super waluigi
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12:03am Thu 22 Nov 12

Boris says...

Yes, it's great to have a goalscoring left-back, but if we only had some prolific goalscoring strikers, we could let the defenders defend.
Yes, it's great to have a goalscoring left-back, but if we only had some prolific goalscoring strikers, we could let the defenders defend. Boris
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12:17am Thu 22 Nov 12

Steve86 says...

super waluigi wrote:
Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic.

Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will.

I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK????

I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom.
Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will).
If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season.
When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them.

Give him some time.
LMAO he has potential? You do now that he's getting on a bit now. Plus comparing a defender to a forward never works, let alone the best player in the world VS a league 1 defender. It's all well and good that he scores goals, that's why myself and a few others suggested that he plays down the wing instead of defence. As he can't defend and has/will cost us goals. Coker did a very good job in parts of last season, and sometimes was the best U's player on the pitch. Now as he is young he has 'Potential' to succeed.
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic. Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will. I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK???? I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom. Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will). If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season. When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them. Give him some time.[/p][/quote]LMAO he has potential? You do now that he's getting on a bit now. Plus comparing a defender to a forward never works, let alone the best player in the world VS a league 1 defender. It's all well and good that he scores goals, that's why myself and a few others suggested that he plays down the wing instead of defence. As he can't defend and has/will cost us goals. Coker did a very good job in parts of last season, and sometimes was the best U's player on the pitch. Now as he is young he has 'Potential' to succeed. Steve86
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12:22am Thu 22 Nov 12

Steve86 says...

25414nora wrote:
'Hey' a lot of AGREEMENT going on here. Sounds almost like meeting of the 'Masonic Lodge'..'Still' glad you lot left Wordy, and Hendo alone this week.
Supose it was Rosey's turn to recieve the flak this time. I thought the ref robbed us of a good goal.. But I reckon their second goal was given because the guy who was offside, was deemed, not interfeering with play. Only a 3,000 crowd again, not good..Up the Us.
Oh yeah them 2. Well Wordswoth played well but still not sure why he's captain. He's not vocal, doesn't motivate the team, doesn't delegate tasks, and doesn't attempt to hype up the crowd. Henderson one of those players that can either be very good (Bury) then be missing (Coventry) so I for one was glad that he was dubbed off.
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: 'Hey' a lot of AGREEMENT going on here. Sounds almost like meeting of the 'Masonic Lodge'..'Still' glad you lot left Wordy, and Hendo alone this week. Supose it was Rosey's turn to recieve the flak this time. I thought the ref robbed us of a good goal.. But I reckon their second goal was given because the guy who was offside, was deemed, not interfeering with play. Only a 3,000 crowd again, not good..Up the Us.[/p][/quote]Oh yeah them 2. Well Wordswoth played well but still not sure why he's captain. He's not vocal, doesn't motivate the team, doesn't delegate tasks, and doesn't attempt to hype up the crowd. Henderson one of those players that can either be very good (Bury) then be missing (Coventry) so I for one was glad that he was dubbed off. Steve86
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12:25am Thu 22 Nov 12

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12:25am Thu 22 Nov 12

Steve86 says...

Steve86 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic.

Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will.

I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK????

I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom.
Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will).
If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season.
When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them.

Give him some time.
LMAO he has potential? You do now that he's getting on a bit now. Plus comparing a defender to a forward never works, let alone the best player in the world VS a league 1 defender. It's all well and good that he scores goals, that's why myself and a few others suggested that he plays down the wing instead of defence. As he can't defend and has/will cost us goals. Coker did a very good job in parts of last season, and sometimes was the best U's player on the pitch. Now as he is young he has 'Potential' to succeed.
Whoops Know*
[quote][p][bold]Steve86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic. Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will. I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK???? I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom. Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will). If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season. When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them. Give him some time.[/p][/quote]LMAO he has potential? You do now that he's getting on a bit now. Plus comparing a defender to a forward never works, let alone the best player in the world VS a league 1 defender. It's all well and good that he scores goals, that's why myself and a few others suggested that he plays down the wing instead of defence. As he can't defend and has/will cost us goals. Coker did a very good job in parts of last season, and sometimes was the best U's player on the pitch. Now as he is young he has 'Potential' to succeed.[/p][/quote]Whoops Know* Steve86
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12:30am Thu 22 Nov 12

Col United says...

Boris wrote:
Yes, it's great to have a goalscoring left-back, but if we only had some prolific goalscoring strikers, we could let the defenders defend.
I agree, as we have no out and out goal scorers at the front where else are the goals going to come from...

As I've said before Rose could do with being a winger. The biggest weaknesses have been our defence when Magnus and Eastman are left against the opposition with the full backs in midfield.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Yes, it's great to have a goalscoring left-back, but if we only had some prolific goalscoring strikers, we could let the defenders defend.[/p][/quote]I agree, as we have no out and out goal scorers at the front where else are the goals going to come from... As I've said before Rose could do with being a winger. The biggest weaknesses have been our defence when Magnus and Eastman are left against the opposition with the full backs in midfield. Col United
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8:00am Thu 22 Nov 12

super waluigi says...

Steve86 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic.

Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will.

I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK????

I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom.
Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will).
If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season.
When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them.

Give him some time.
LMAO he has potential? You do now that he's getting on a bit now. Plus comparing a defender to a forward never works, let alone the best player in the world VS a league 1 defender. It's all well and good that he scores goals, that's why myself and a few others suggested that he plays down the wing instead of defence. As he can't defend and has/will cost us goals. Coker did a very good job in parts of last season, and sometimes was the best U's player on the pitch. Now as he is young he has 'Potential' to succeed.
I take your point and the others that he might be better as a midfielder. It has crossed my mind too. But his goals often come from free kicks and dead balls, so technically he could be goalkeeper and still score 3 goals. Even the wonder goal that he scored from the corner this season was a result of rosé being the last defender.

Just to clarify, so that you know, I am not comparing Ronaldo and Rose. I am comparing their club form after transfer.
[quote][p][bold]Steve86[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: Nora, that Masonic lodge line..... Classic. Of course it does not matter how well Rose does play, some fans just don't like him and never will. I am a big fan of Coker. I see Coker as our best left back. But Rose can do the job for us. After all does Rose not have 3 goals this season from left back???? And does those three goals not make him our second best goalscorer, again, FROM LEFTBACK???? I realise that Cristiano Ronaldo is a unbelievable footballer. Far superior to anyone at Colchester United, but I remember Manchester United signing him and he used to score 1 in ten shots. All of the other shots would miss by miles. His tackling was a non starter and his diving was often unwatchable. But Fergie stuck with him, off loading troublesome Roy Keane and Ruud Van Nistelrooy who were vocal about Ronaldo being unplayable with. This allowed Ronaldo to blossom. Now while I don't think Rose has the potential to play above league one, I do think that if he is allowed to have some game time, he might just be a fine and reliable left back for next season and beyond. Like Ronaldo, he has shown some promise but also some randomly bad patches also. Very hit and miss (if you will). If he can Iron out the random mis crosses and time his forward running, we might have a solid player. He certainly has shown some promise this season. When was the last time any Col U leftback scored 3 goals before christmas???? When was the last time White and Coker scored a goal??? Not a critism, I like them. Give him some time.[/p][/quote]LMAO he has potential? You do now that he's getting on a bit now. Plus comparing a defender to a forward never works, let alone the best player in the world VS a league 1 defender. It's all well and good that he scores goals, that's why myself and a few others suggested that he plays down the wing instead of defence. As he can't defend and has/will cost us goals. Coker did a very good job in parts of last season, and sometimes was the best U's player on the pitch. Now as he is young he has 'Potential' to succeed.[/p][/quote]I take your point and the others that he might be better as a midfielder. It has crossed my mind too. But his goals often come from free kicks and dead balls, so technically he could be goalkeeper and still score 3 goals. Even the wonder goal that he scored from the corner this season was a result of rosé being the last defender. Just to clarify, so that you know, I am not comparing Ronaldo and Rose. I am comparing their club form after transfer. super waluigi
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11:30am Thu 22 Nov 12

We're not singing anymore!!! says...

If we criticise Rose, Wordsworth, Henderson or any other player it's only because we want the best for Col U.

I think the last two home games have shown Woody and Hendo working much harder and looking more like the players we know they can be. It's when they have a more low key (trying to be polite) performance that we moan about them.

Rose has scored 3 goals this season but how many goals has he cost us???? I bet we would have had more points without his errors and silly fouls around the box than any that we've gained through his goals. I still think going forward he looks good. Defensively he looks very weak. In fact, I’ve seen milk turn quicker.

Nora......
Try watching a game without your ROSE tinted glasses and maybe you would see what we're talking about.
If we criticise Rose, Wordsworth, Henderson or any other player it's only because we want the best for Col U. I think the last two home games have shown Woody and Hendo working much harder and looking more like the players we know they can be. It's when they have a more low key (trying to be polite) performance that we moan about them. Rose has scored 3 goals this season but how many goals has he cost us???? I bet we would have had more points without his errors and silly fouls around the box than any that we've gained through his goals. I still think going forward he looks good. Defensively he looks very weak. In fact, I’ve seen milk turn quicker. Nora...... Try watching a game without your ROSE tinted glasses and maybe you would see what we're talking about. We're not singing anymore!!!
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11:42am Thu 22 Nov 12

Boris says...

Col United wrote:
Boris wrote:
Yes, it's great to have a goalscoring left-back, but if we only had some prolific goalscoring strikers, we could let the defenders defend.
I agree, as we have no out and out goal scorers at the front where else are the goals going to come from...

As I've said before Rose could do with being a winger. The biggest weaknesses have been our defence when Magnus and Eastman are left against the opposition with the full backs in midfield.
Agreed, move Rose to the wing. And bring back John White. In over 200 appearances, he has never scored a goal for the U's, but he is a better defender, and he is very seldom blamed for an opposition goal.
[quote][p][bold]Col United[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Yes, it's great to have a goalscoring left-back, but if we only had some prolific goalscoring strikers, we could let the defenders defend.[/p][/quote]I agree, as we have no out and out goal scorers at the front where else are the goals going to come from... As I've said before Rose could do with being a winger. The biggest weaknesses have been our defence when Magnus and Eastman are left against the opposition with the full backs in midfield.[/p][/quote]Agreed, move Rose to the wing. And bring back John White. In over 200 appearances, he has never scored a goal for the U's, but he is a better defender, and he is very seldom blamed for an opposition goal. Boris
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1:23pm Thu 22 Nov 12

crazy comments says...

Col United wrote:
I agree with the above comments, a replacement for watt is required we haven't been the same team since he got injured. Also that Rose is no good in defence, he's passing needs to be better too. I feel that Rose could be a good winger as he does have a little flair, and it's clear that he is attack minded, he could grab a few goals too.
Same thing as last year when we had Antonio. Soon as he went back to Reading that was it. You need an atacking winger with a bit of speed who can open defences up. Massey,Dugie,Henders
on,and Sears are not out and out wingers and never will be. Swindon have recently signed Martin on loan from Norwich who is that type of player and would have been perfect for us.
[quote][p][bold]Col United[/bold] wrote: I agree with the above comments, a replacement for watt is required we haven't been the same team since he got injured. Also that Rose is no good in defence, he's passing needs to be better too. I feel that Rose could be a good winger as he does have a little flair, and it's clear that he is attack minded, he could grab a few goals too.[/p][/quote]Same thing as last year when we had Antonio. Soon as he went back to Reading that was it. You need an atacking winger with a bit of speed who can open defences up. Massey,Dugie,Henders on,and Sears are not out and out wingers and never will be. Swindon have recently signed Martin on loan from Norwich who is that type of player and would have been perfect for us. crazy comments
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9:21pm Thu 22 Nov 12

crazy comments says...

SamPR wrote:
I don't know how long Dunne will keep Rose at left back. Quite agree that he is better going forward but his defending is shocking. Coker has not been given a chance this season. He is technically good, defends well, doesn't lose the ball and can deliver good crosses. Dunne, don't be stubborn like your predecessor and stick with Rose - give the lad a chance!
No need to worry now that we have signed a new left back.
[quote][p][bold]SamPR[/bold] wrote: I don't know how long Dunne will keep Rose at left back. Quite agree that he is better going forward but his defending is shocking. Coker has not been given a chance this season. He is technically good, defends well, doesn't lose the ball and can deliver good crosses. Dunne, don't be stubborn like your predecessor and stick with Rose - give the lad a chance![/p][/quote]No need to worry now that we have signed a new left back. crazy comments
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12:04am Fri 23 Nov 12

Steve86 says...

Would have preferred a striker though.
Would have preferred a striker though. Steve86
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7:31am Sat 24 Nov 12

angryman!!! says...

Hope Morrison can get on the score sheet, he has had a hell of a lot of criticising already, in his defence he was only starting regularly under ward when the team as a whole weren't scoring, I think if he had started at the start of jd's reign when we were scoring more freely and with watts crosses he'd have got a few. Fingers crossed it changes today
Hope Morrison can get on the score sheet, he has had a hell of a lot of criticising already, in his defence he was only starting regularly under ward when the team as a whole weren't scoring, I think if he had started at the start of jd's reign when we were scoring more freely and with watts crosses he'd have got a few. Fingers crossed it changes today angryman!!!
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8:25am Mon 26 Nov 12

wellnow says...

hello broken fingers.
hello broken fingers. wellnow
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