New Colchester bus station on course to open on Sunday

First published in Local news

COLCHESTER’S controversial new bus station will be completed in time to open this Sunday, it has been confirmed.

Workmen have been creating the £2 million facility on Osborne Street and Stanwell Street throughout the autumn.
Now Derrick Louis, Essex County councillor responsible for highways, has confirmed the new station will be officially unveiled on Sunday

The current temporary bus station, on Queen Street, will close at midnight on Saturday.

Mr Louis said: “Excellent progress has been made on the development of Colchester new bus station, and I am delighted that it will be ready to open this weekend."

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8:45pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Grabber says...

Gridlock in town by 08.30 Monday then glad I work in Suffolk !
Gridlock in town by 08.30 Monday then glad I work in Suffolk ! Grabber
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8:49pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Colchesterperson says...

and they have not even bothered to tell anyone how this new route will work, 2 million pounds that may aswell have been burnt everyone was happy with the queen street bus station why waste the money to change it???
and they have not even bothered to tell anyone how this new route will work, 2 million pounds that may aswell have been burnt everyone was happy with the queen street bus station why waste the money to change it??? Colchesterperson
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10:42pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Feisty CBC says...

£2m pounds to stick up one shelter, widen and tarmac a road. Someone is having a laugh.
£2m pounds to stick up one shelter, widen and tarmac a road. Someone is having a laugh. Feisty CBC
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10:43pm Tue 13 Nov 12

hughie-s says...

Colchesterperson wrote:
and they have not even bothered to tell anyone how this new route will work, 2 million pounds that may aswell have been burnt everyone was happy with the queen street bus station why waste the money to change it???
Leaflet....

http://www.colcheste
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[quote][p][bold]Colchesterperson[/bold] wrote: and they have not even bothered to tell anyone how this new route will work, 2 million pounds that may aswell have been burnt everyone was happy with the queen street bus station why waste the money to change it???[/p][/quote]Leaflet.... http://www.colcheste r.gov.uk/CHttpHandle r.ashx?id=8348&p=0 hughie-s
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2:00am Wed 14 Nov 12

greenbroker says...

You are a sad lot. People will be on hand to help, plus two electronic destination boards. http://goo.gl/SiIhH
You are a sad lot. People will be on hand to help, plus two electronic destination boards. http://goo.gl/SiIhH greenbroker
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3:21am Wed 14 Nov 12

mirokou says...

Am i missing something here. With a multitude of bus stops around town why is a bus station so important to some people. slightly redundant idea
Am i missing something here. With a multitude of bus stops around town why is a bus station so important to some people. slightly redundant idea mirokou
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1:59pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Libetia says...

mirokou wrote:
Am i missing something here. With a multitude of bus stops around town why is a bus station so important to some people. slightly redundant idea
Because not everyone using buses in town is using it as a terminus, but also as a interchange area.
[quote][p][bold]mirokou[/bold] wrote: Am i missing something here. With a multitude of bus stops around town why is a bus station so important to some people. slightly redundant idea[/p][/quote]Because not everyone using buses in town is using it as a terminus, but also as a interchange area. Libetia
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2:16pm Wed 14 Nov 12

TheCaptain says...

mirokou wrote:
Am i missing something here. With a multitude of bus stops around town why is a bus station so important to some people. slightly redundant idea
Because some people can't stand change and they are always right.

I use buses every day and don't have a problem with this.
[quote][p][bold]mirokou[/bold] wrote: Am i missing something here. With a multitude of bus stops around town why is a bus station so important to some people. slightly redundant idea[/p][/quote]Because some people can't stand change and they are always right. I use buses every day and don't have a problem with this. TheCaptain
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2:18pm Wed 14 Nov 12

TheCaptain says...

Grabber wrote:
Gridlock in town by 08.30 Monday then glad I work in Suffolk !
Queen Street will be less congested as buses don't have to go in and out of the old station.

Lets just wait and see before condeming it.
[quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: Gridlock in town by 08.30 Monday then glad I work in Suffolk ![/p][/quote]Queen Street will be less congested as buses don't have to go in and out of the old station. Lets just wait and see before condeming it. TheCaptain
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4:32pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Goonerboy says...

The issue most people have is... how can a few road changes , a bus shelter and signs come to £2,000,000 .
The issue most people have is... how can a few road changes , a bus shelter and signs come to £2,000,000 . Goonerboy
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5:15pm Wed 14 Nov 12

wellnow says...

splendid job cbc on budget and on time.trebles all round for the team.
splendid job cbc on budget and on time.trebles all round for the team. wellnow
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6:13pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Im_Like_HELLO says...

Did we not hear a similar whinges from you naysayers about the Visual Arts Centre? I believe that has not done too badly? Before passing judgement, let the new bus station prove itself. You can't get anything much for a million pounds in engineering these days, but more than you would get for the millions of pounds wasted on other things like the war in Afghanistan.
Did we not hear a similar whinges from you naysayers about the Visual Arts Centre? I believe that has not done too badly? Before passing judgement, let the new bus station prove itself. You can't get anything much for a million pounds in engineering these days, but more than you would get for the millions of pounds wasted on other things like the war in Afghanistan. Im_Like_HELLO
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6:26pm Wed 14 Nov 12

25414nora says...

Goonerboy wrote:
The issue most people have is... how can a few road changes , a bus shelter and signs come to £2,000,000 .
You conveniently forget to mention...
The modern cafe and rest room (waiting area)..The modern hygenic toilet facilities. Electronic visual time table.. There will be no dark hiding places for the 'Pervo's, Druggies, to congregate..The old bus park had it's uses in times past..Now it's a filthy disgrace, so glad it's going.. 'As always' some people need to be dragged screaming into the 21st century...
[quote][p][bold]Goonerboy[/bold] wrote: The issue most people have is... how can a few road changes , a bus shelter and signs come to £2,000,000 .[/p][/quote]You conveniently forget to mention... The modern cafe and rest room (waiting area)..The modern hygenic toilet facilities. Electronic visual time table.. There will be no dark hiding places for the 'Pervo's, Druggies, to congregate..The old bus park had it's uses in times past..Now it's a filthy disgrace, so glad it's going.. 'As always' some people need to be dragged screaming into the 21st century... 25414nora
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7:44pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Grabber says...

TheCaptain wrote:
Grabber wrote:
Gridlock in town by 08.30 Monday then glad I work in Suffolk !
Queen Street will be less congested as buses don't have to go in and out of the old station.

Lets just wait and see before condeming it.
Queen Street is and will continue to be blocked as more than 1 bus is always trying to get in to the stop near the old Shoe World shop. Wait until 5pm when people are trying to get out of the car park above Gala bingo its going to be gridlock. 2 million pound would of been better spent on a out of town park and ride !
[quote][p][bold]TheCaptain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: Gridlock in town by 08.30 Monday then glad I work in Suffolk ![/p][/quote]Queen Street will be less congested as buses don't have to go in and out of the old station. Lets just wait and see before condeming it.[/p][/quote]Queen Street is and will continue to be blocked as more than 1 bus is always trying to get in to the stop near the old Shoe World shop. Wait until 5pm when people are trying to get out of the car park above Gala bingo its going to be gridlock. 2 million pound would of been better spent on a out of town park and ride ! Grabber
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9:30pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Ontheball says...

With FIFTY (yes, fifty) scheduled bus and coach services now being required to use this bus shelter area, I can see wholesale chaos all around the town centre roads as a result in road blockages. Buses will be parked up awaiting crew change and awaiting departure times to routes all over north Essex and Colchester and I can see the resultant blockages ending up with people having to board their buses in the roadway rather than from the kerbside!

£2m to make basic alterations to thew Osborne St bus stops, is a complete rip-off to us taxpayers!
With FIFTY (yes, fifty) scheduled bus and coach services now being required to use this bus shelter area, I can see wholesale chaos all around the town centre roads as a result in road blockages. Buses will be parked up awaiting crew change and awaiting departure times to routes all over north Essex and Colchester and I can see the resultant blockages ending up with people having to board their buses in the roadway rather than from the kerbside! £2m to make basic alterations to thew Osborne St bus stops, is a complete rip-off to us taxpayers! Ontheball
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12:25am Thu 15 Nov 12

Boris says...

25414nora wrote:
Goonerboy wrote:
The issue most people have is... how can a few road changes , a bus shelter and signs come to £2,000,000 .
You conveniently forget to mention...
The modern cafe and rest room (waiting area)..The modern hygenic toilet facilities. Electronic visual time table.. There will be no dark hiding places for the 'Pervo's, Druggies, to congregate..The old bus park had it's uses in times past..Now it's a filthy disgrace, so glad it's going.. 'As always' some people need to be dragged screaming into the 21st century...
The old bus station had a perfectly good cafe until CBC closed it. It still had perfectly hygienic toilets (I speak only for the gents). If it has become a filthy disgrace, that is because CBC is running it down and it has only a few days left, so why bother cleaning it?
The new waiting area will only shelter about 20 people, against at least 80 at present. You will pay to use the toilet.
Pervos and druggies are a figment of your imagination.
Let's see if you are still happy with Osborne Street this time next week.
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goonerboy[/bold] wrote: The issue most people have is... how can a few road changes , a bus shelter and signs come to £2,000,000 .[/p][/quote]You conveniently forget to mention... The modern cafe and rest room (waiting area)..The modern hygenic toilet facilities. Electronic visual time table.. There will be no dark hiding places for the 'Pervo's, Druggies, to congregate..The old bus park had it's uses in times past..Now it's a filthy disgrace, so glad it's going.. 'As always' some people need to be dragged screaming into the 21st century...[/p][/quote]The old bus station had a perfectly good cafe until CBC closed it. It still had perfectly hygienic toilets (I speak only for the gents). If it has become a filthy disgrace, that is because CBC is running it down and it has only a few days left, so why bother cleaning it? The new waiting area will only shelter about 20 people, against at least 80 at present. You will pay to use the toilet. Pervos and druggies are a figment of your imagination. Let's see if you are still happy with Osborne Street this time next week. Boris
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9:01am Thu 15 Nov 12

sandgronun64 says...

Can we all just get something straight, once and for all please?

IT IS A STREET!

IT IS NOT A BUS 'STATION'!

A bus 'station' would be purpose built and off the road.

If the above definition is not the case, then surely the town is full of 'stations?'

Perhaps bus-convergence' might be a more appropriate term?
Can we all just get something straight, once and for all please? IT IS A STREET! IT IS NOT A BUS 'STATION'! A bus 'station' would be purpose built and off the road. If the above definition is not the case, then surely the town is full of 'stations?' Perhaps bus-convergence' might be a more appropriate term? sandgronun64
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9:06am Thu 15 Nov 12

romantic says...

Oooh, it´s exciting, isn´t it, waiting to see who´s right?! My feeling is that the problem area will actually be Queen Street. Every bus which goes through town will also stop at one of the 2 stops there. 2 buses can just about squeeze in at the top, but are often left jutting out so that nothing can pass, causing tailbacks behind. And that´s just with a handful of services. Come Sunday, far more need to stop there, or at the stop further down, where there is no space to pull in off the road anyway.

Any modelling which has been done will almost certainly under-estimate how long it takes to get people on and off the bus.

That will be the pinch point. In my opinion.

Personally, I will walk or cycle around anyway, so doesn´t matter so much to me, but I can see this causing delays to the bus services which a lot of people use.

But anyway, let´s see if I´m right or the Captain is right. I hope that I´m wrong, really!
Oooh, it´s exciting, isn´t it, waiting to see who´s right?! My feeling is that the problem area will actually be Queen Street. Every bus which goes through town will also stop at one of the 2 stops there. 2 buses can just about squeeze in at the top, but are often left jutting out so that nothing can pass, causing tailbacks behind. And that´s just with a handful of services. Come Sunday, far more need to stop there, or at the stop further down, where there is no space to pull in off the road anyway. Any modelling which has been done will almost certainly under-estimate how long it takes to get people on and off the bus. That will be the pinch point. In my opinion. Personally, I will walk or cycle around anyway, so doesn´t matter so much to me, but I can see this causing delays to the bus services which a lot of people use. But anyway, let´s see if I´m right or the Captain is right. I hope that I´m wrong, really! romantic
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9:43am Thu 15 Nov 12

Bert_Stimpson says...

£2m to build a smoking shelter for Gala Bingo users. Seems a lot. Barton's Folly is not a bus station.
£2m to build a smoking shelter for Gala Bingo users. Seems a lot. Barton's Folly is not a bus station. Bert_Stimpson
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10:41am Thu 15 Nov 12

Checkout says...

Thanks greenbroker, the most useful post on this subject so far.
Thanks greenbroker, the most useful post on this subject so far. Checkout
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11:04am Thu 15 Nov 12

hughie-s says...

"My feeling is that the problem area will actually be Queen Street. Every bus which goes through town will also stop at one of the 2 stops there."

Don't think so Romantic, the timetables for buses coming up East Hill show the new stop outside the Minories then the next one is Osborne Street or Stanwell Street (note not Bus Station).

Could be double trouble, at the second stop if there is a bus on the stop and a lorry in the loading bay opposite is there room for another bus or lorry to get through?
"My feeling is that the problem area will actually be Queen Street. Every bus which goes through town will also stop at one of the 2 stops there." Don't think so Romantic, the timetables for buses coming up East Hill show the new stop outside the Minories then the next one is Osborne Street or Stanwell Street (note not Bus Station). Could be double trouble, at the second stop if there is a bus on the stop and a lorry in the loading bay opposite is there room for another bus or lorry to get through? hughie-s
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11:16am Thu 15 Nov 12

bev52 says...

The bus station should have stayed where it was and been modernised at a fraction of the cost.
Elderly and disabled people again have been penalised as many won't be able to manage to get up hills or steps into town from there, wheras the old Queen street one was central for them.
The art center should have been put somewhere else if we really had to have it (another waste of money IMO) at all.
The bus station should have stayed where it was and been modernised at a fraction of the cost. Elderly and disabled people again have been penalised as many won't be able to manage to get up hills or steps into town from there, wheras the old Queen street one was central for them. The art center should have been put somewhere else if we really had to have it (another waste of money IMO) at all. bev52
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1:57pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Libetia says...

Based on the traffic problems that Osborne Street had when the experiment with making the bottom end of Queen Street between the Osborne St turning & St Botolphs roundabout a bus lane only (taking 30+ minutes to get out of the NCP car park was the norm on a Saturday & traffic backed up Queen St almost as far as the High Street, I'm not expecting this to be a resounding success.
I am happy to be proven wrong, but I think I'll go the long way round and pay the extra at W&G's car park.
Based on the traffic problems that Osborne Street had when the experiment with making the bottom end of Queen Street between the Osborne St turning & St Botolphs roundabout a bus lane only (taking 30+ minutes to get out of the NCP car park was the norm on a Saturday & traffic backed up Queen St almost as far as the High Street, I'm not expecting this to be a resounding success. I am happy to be proven wrong, but I think I'll go the long way round and pay the extra at W&G's car park. Libetia
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5:38pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Sdapeze says...

You all seem to be missing the point that it is car drivers that cause all the problems with congestion, not the buses. The new arrangement for buses will work brilliantly as intended, provided the idiot car drivers let it. The trouble is there is a lot of self interest going on here. I'm allright Jack. Get a bike or a bus and do us all a favour.
You all seem to be missing the point that it is car drivers that cause all the problems with congestion, not the buses. The new arrangement for buses will work brilliantly as intended, provided the idiot car drivers let it. The trouble is there is a lot of self interest going on here. I'm allright Jack. Get a bike or a bus and do us all a favour. Sdapeze
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6:42pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Grabber says...

That isn't practical for a lot of people I'm happy for you to do your bit on 2 wheels but please understand not everyone can get to where they need to be with children, elderly relatives etc etc so a car is essential. Please don't come back with a get on the bus comment as not everyone lives on a decent route or one that is cost effective !
That isn't practical for a lot of people I'm happy for you to do your bit on 2 wheels but please understand not everyone can get to where they need to be with children, elderly relatives etc etc so a car is essential. Please don't come back with a get on the bus comment as not everyone lives on a decent route or one that is cost effective ! Grabber
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10:05pm Thu 15 Nov 12

historyman22 says...

Hey Grabber!

Any chance of a useful comment in respect of the (so-called) bus station?

It is after all a story about the (alleged) bus station.

For all others, don't let sdapeze derail this debate. He will soon want to rant about the giant tin can (AKA hindsite) and cycling. It really is a bit of a bore so don't encourage him.

Agree with sandgronun64 though.

Surely unless it is a purpose built structure, (i.e a bus station) then it is still a street?

Good to know that CBC is still spinning those giant yarns though!

Ridere Clara Voce
Hey Grabber! Any chance of a useful comment in respect of the (so-called) bus station? It is after all a story about the (alleged) bus station. For all others, don't let sdapeze derail this debate. He will soon want to rant about the giant tin can (AKA hindsite) and cycling. It really is a bit of a bore so don't encourage him. Agree with sandgronun64 though. Surely unless it is a purpose built structure, (i.e a bus station) then it is still a street? Good to know that CBC is still spinning those giant yarns though! Ridere Clara Voce historyman22
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5:08pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Grabber says...

History man
no chance at all its more fun to annoy you and all the other keyboard warriors !
History man no chance at all its more fun to annoy you and all the other keyboard warriors ! Grabber
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12:24am Sat 17 Nov 12

historyman22 says...

Grabber wrote:
History man
no chance at all its more fun to annoy you and all the other keyboard warriors !
Of which you are now among the ranks of?

Or do you use voice recognition software to present your poorly constructed drivel?

I am glad however that you have finally admitted that you have nothing of note to offer.

Many of us will (no doubt) have spotted this already, but for you to deal with it, you first have to recognise that you have a problem. Glad you have taken this vital initial step.

For your benefit then ... Ridere Clara Voce = LOL (in grabberspeak that is!).

For the rest

Anyone still want to comment on the 'bus-street?'

Best give it a rest for now.

BUT:

Roll on Monday

...

It should get really interesting then.
[quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: History man no chance at all its more fun to annoy you and all the other keyboard warriors ![/p][/quote]Of which you are now among the ranks of? Or do you use voice recognition software to present your poorly constructed drivel? I am glad however that you have finally admitted that you have nothing of note to offer. Many of us will (no doubt) have spotted this already, but for you to deal with it, you first have to recognise that you have a problem. Glad you have taken this vital initial step. For your benefit then ... Ridere Clara Voce = LOL (in grabberspeak that is!). For the rest Anyone still want to comment on the 'bus-street?' Best give it a rest for now. BUT: Roll on Monday ... It should get really interesting then. historyman22
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7:40pm Sat 17 Nov 12

Grabber says...

Decode this History man
C U Next Tuesday !
Decode this History man C U Next Tuesday ! Grabber
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2:08pm Sun 18 Nov 12

historyman22 says...

Grabber wrote:
Decode this History man
C U Next Tuesday !
Wow, nice and erudite Mr grabber!

Thanks for telling us your name in 'code' ... though it hardly needed an enigma machine to 'decode' it.

Most of us had worked this out for ourselves.

Any chance of a comment regarding the bus station?

Even something faintly relevant?
[quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: Decode this History man C U Next Tuesday ![/p][/quote]Wow, nice and erudite Mr grabber! Thanks for telling us your name in 'code' ... though it hardly needed an enigma machine to 'decode' it. Most of us had worked this out for ourselves. Any chance of a comment regarding the bus station? Even something faintly relevant? historyman22
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5:58pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Sdapeze says...

How would you scratchy lot feel about the concept of a heritage core for the town? In other words, everywhere within the town walls, where cars and buses and taxis and motorcyles and perhaps bicycles were banned. What would it take to make it work? How could the disabled and infirm best be accommodated by such a scheme? Why do other places do it and how do they cope? The aim would be to make Colchester a better place to visit for shopping, for dining, for the arts, for heritage, for a quiet and enjoyable experience generally? Or could you simply not care less, insisting on your God given right to drive your car through the town whenever you want? The new bus stop/terminus/statio
n/layover/etc. is now outside the heritage core, so it is a first step toward a better town centre. Just asking for views. I think I already know the answer to be 'up yours' but you could just surprise me.
How would you scratchy lot feel about the concept of a heritage core for the town? In other words, everywhere within the town walls, where cars and buses and taxis and motorcyles and perhaps bicycles were banned. What would it take to make it work? How could the disabled and infirm best be accommodated by such a scheme? Why do other places do it and how do they cope? The aim would be to make Colchester a better place to visit for shopping, for dining, for the arts, for heritage, for a quiet and enjoyable experience generally? Or could you simply not care less, insisting on your God given right to drive your car through the town whenever you want? The new bus stop/terminus/statio n/layover/etc. is now outside the heritage core, so it is a first step toward a better town centre. Just asking for views. I think I already know the answer to be 'up yours' but you could just surprise me. Sdapeze
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6:36pm Sun 18 Nov 12

Grabber says...

Historyman there is no point as you know it all !
Historyman there is no point as you know it all ! Grabber
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9:06pm Sun 18 Nov 12

partyplanner says...

sdapeze, I do think that the centre of town should be pedestrianised completely but roads off the high street (as there are many residents) should remain with residents cars. I can't believe this hasn't been carried out by CBC already. I also find it unbelievable that we have no park and ride.
sdapeze, I do think that the centre of town should be pedestrianised completely but roads off the high street (as there are many residents) should remain with residents cars. I can't believe this hasn't been carried out by CBC already. I also find it unbelievable that we have no park and ride. partyplanner
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9:14pm Sun 18 Nov 12

historyman22 says...

Grabber wrote:
Historyman there is no point as you know it all !
Thank you darling!
[quote][p][bold]Grabber[/bold] wrote: Historyman there is no point as you know it all ![/p][/quote]Thank you darling! historyman22
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12:22am Mon 19 Nov 12

Boris says...

Sdapeze wrote:
How would you scratchy lot feel about the concept of a heritage core for the town? In other words, everywhere within the town walls, where cars and buses and taxis and motorcyles and perhaps bicycles were banned. What would it take to make it work? How could the disabled and infirm best be accommodated by such a scheme? Why do other places do it and how do they cope? The aim would be to make Colchester a better place to visit for shopping, for dining, for the arts, for heritage, for a quiet and enjoyable experience generally? Or could you simply not care less, insisting on your God given right to drive your car through the town whenever you want? The new bus stop/terminus/statio

n/layover/etc. is now outside the heritage core, so it is a first step toward a better town centre. Just asking for views. I think I already know the answer to be 'up yours' but you could just surprise me.
Nice idea but there is not a lot of heritage left in our town centre. Rebuild the Cups Hotel, rebuild St Nicholas Church, and so on. Hand over the car parks to town centre residents to keep their cars there, and not near their houses.
Once you have done all this, your suggestion makes a lot of sense.
[quote][p][bold]Sdapeze[/bold] wrote: How would you scratchy lot feel about the concept of a heritage core for the town? In other words, everywhere within the town walls, where cars and buses and taxis and motorcyles and perhaps bicycles were banned. What would it take to make it work? How could the disabled and infirm best be accommodated by such a scheme? Why do other places do it and how do they cope? The aim would be to make Colchester a better place to visit for shopping, for dining, for the arts, for heritage, for a quiet and enjoyable experience generally? Or could you simply not care less, insisting on your God given right to drive your car through the town whenever you want? The new bus stop/terminus/statio n/layover/etc. is now outside the heritage core, so it is a first step toward a better town centre. Just asking for views. I think I already know the answer to be 'up yours' but you could just surprise me.[/p][/quote]Nice idea but there is not a lot of heritage left in our town centre. Rebuild the Cups Hotel, rebuild St Nicholas Church, and so on. Hand over the car parks to town centre residents to keep their cars there, and not near their houses. Once you have done all this, your suggestion makes a lot of sense. Boris
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10:30am Mon 19 Nov 12

Dave Bruce says...

I have to travel into Colchester by bus every day because my work is here. The old bus station was a quick and convenient interchange to catch my connecting bus. That's all gone now. There was grid-lock this morning because the bus in which I was travelling could not negotiate the sharp dog-leg left-hand turning into Stanwell Street. Several buses quickly stacked up behind us and we were not allowed off until the driver had been able to manoeuvre and park safely, which proved to be difficult and time consuming. In addition, to exit the so-called new "bus station" (joke!) I then had to try and cross a busy junction. As a result of all this, I was late for work. I'm not impressed. Thanks for nothing Colchester Borough Council. It's clear you have no idea about life in the real world. In future I shall travel by car.
I have to travel into Colchester by bus every day because my work is here. The old bus station was a quick and convenient interchange to catch my connecting bus. That's all gone now. There was grid-lock this morning because the bus in which I was travelling could not negotiate the sharp dog-leg left-hand turning into Stanwell Street. Several buses quickly stacked up behind us and we were not allowed off until the driver had been able to manoeuvre and park safely, which proved to be difficult and time consuming. In addition, to exit the so-called new "bus station" (joke!) I then had to try and cross a busy junction. As a result of all this, I was late for work. I'm not impressed. Thanks for nothing Colchester Borough Council. It's clear you have no idea about life in the real world. In future I shall travel by car. Dave Bruce
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11:01am Mon 19 Nov 12

romantic says...

Dave Bruce wrote:
I have to travel into Colchester by bus every day because my work is here. The old bus station was a quick and convenient interchange to catch my connecting bus. That's all gone now. There was grid-lock this morning because the bus in which I was travelling could not negotiate the sharp dog-leg left-hand turning into Stanwell Street. Several buses quickly stacked up behind us and we were not allowed off until the driver had been able to manoeuvre and park safely, which proved to be difficult and time consuming. In addition, to exit the so-called new "bus station" (joke!) I then had to try and cross a busy junction. As a result of all this, I was late for work. I'm not impressed. Thanks for nothing Colchester Borough Council. It's clear you have no idea about life in the real world. In future I shall travel by car.
I wandered past the "bus station" yesterday and saw a coach for Heathrow having to turn by going into the other lane and then swinging a hard left. There seems no other way for a

On a Sunday afternoon, it is quiet enough to do this without problems, but I´m not so sure about a wet rush-hour with other buses already piling up to go straight ahead.

Let´s hope these are just teething problems. As with the VAF, it is our money that has paid for this, so, however much we think it is wrong, it kind of has to work or we end up with even more of our money being spent.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Bruce[/bold] wrote: I have to travel into Colchester by bus every day because my work is here. The old bus station was a quick and convenient interchange to catch my connecting bus. That's all gone now. There was grid-lock this morning because the bus in which I was travelling could not negotiate the sharp dog-leg left-hand turning into Stanwell Street. Several buses quickly stacked up behind us and we were not allowed off until the driver had been able to manoeuvre and park safely, which proved to be difficult and time consuming. In addition, to exit the so-called new "bus station" (joke!) I then had to try and cross a busy junction. As a result of all this, I was late for work. I'm not impressed. Thanks for nothing Colchester Borough Council. It's clear you have no idea about life in the real world. In future I shall travel by car.[/p][/quote]I wandered past the "bus station" yesterday and saw a coach for Heathrow having to turn by going into the other lane and then swinging a hard left. There seems no other way for a On a Sunday afternoon, it is quiet enough to do this without problems, but I´m not so sure about a wet rush-hour with other buses already piling up to go straight ahead. Let´s hope these are just teething problems. As with the VAF, it is our money that has paid for this, so, however much we think it is wrong, it kind of has to work or we end up with even more of our money being spent. romantic
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12:00pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Dave Bruce says...

I appreciate what you are saying "romantic". I was born in Colchester and I have lived and worked here for most of my life, before I needed to move away. However, Colchester is a busy and important town for a variety of reasons, therefore, a sensible transport system is vital for the economic future of the town. Denying the people of both Colchester and the outlying districts the facility of a bus station is extremely short sighted. Residents living in the borough may well be able to manage perfectly well without a bus station, but there are thousands of travellers who commute into town who require the kind of facilities that only a bus station can provide, such as a fast and efficient interchange. Buses serving the borough may run fairly frequently, e.g. every 10 minutes or so, whereas passengers travelling into Colchester from an outlying district for work, school, hospital appointments/visitin
g, shopping or even to catch a connection may only have the luxury of one bus per hour.
I appreciate what you are saying "romantic". I was born in Colchester and I have lived and worked here for most of my life, before I needed to move away. However, Colchester is a busy and important town for a variety of reasons, therefore, a sensible transport system is vital for the economic future of the town. Denying the people of both Colchester and the outlying districts the facility of a bus station is extremely short sighted. Residents living in the borough may well be able to manage perfectly well without a bus station, but there are thousands of travellers who commute into town who require the kind of facilities that only a bus station can provide, such as a fast and efficient interchange. Buses serving the borough may run fairly frequently, e.g. every 10 minutes or so, whereas passengers travelling into Colchester from an outlying district for work, school, hospital appointments/visitin g, shopping or even to catch a connection may only have the luxury of one bus per hour. Dave Bruce
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5:09pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Grabber says...

So there was gridlock this morning as I had predicted in an earlier post, I was correct and some of my meaningless drivel turned into fact.
So there was gridlock this morning as I had predicted in an earlier post, I was correct and some of my meaningless drivel turned into fact. Grabber
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10:23pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Sdapeze says...

Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.
Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers. Sdapeze
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2:50am Tue 20 Nov 12

Boris says...

Sdapeze wrote:
Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.
I hope you are not accusing your wife of being an idiot. Anyway, it's good of you to confess your abominable behaviour in coming into town by car.
[quote][p][bold]Sdapeze[/bold] wrote: Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.[/p][/quote]I hope you are not accusing your wife of being an idiot. Anyway, it's good of you to confess your abominable behaviour in coming into town by car. Boris
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2:58am Tue 20 Nov 12

Boris says...

I was there about 2 pm yesterday (Monday) and there were 4 bus company men standing on the corner near the joke shelter. We had the following conversation.
Could any of you answer a question? Yes, I'll try. Oh thanks: can you tell me where the £2 million went? What do you mean? I mean the amount that we council tax payers paid for this rearrangement of a few bus stops and realignment of kerbs. Oh, I can't answer that, I only work for the bus company. You'll need to ask the council that. Is there anyone from the council here? Not that I know of.
I was there about 2 pm yesterday (Monday) and there were 4 bus company men standing on the corner near the joke shelter. We had the following conversation. Could any of you answer a question? Yes, I'll try. Oh thanks: can you tell me where the £2 million went? What do you mean? I mean the amount that we council tax payers paid for this rearrangement of a few bus stops and realignment of kerbs. Oh, I can't answer that, I only work for the bus company. You'll need to ask the council that. Is there anyone from the council here? Not that I know of. Boris
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8:35am Tue 20 Nov 12

hughie-s says...

Sdapeze wrote:
Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.
Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now?


That's strange, the new layout was only opened on Sunday and the old road onto Southway is now occupied by the "waiting room". The problem was I guess the bus driver going into the "ahead only" lane rather the outside lane that needs to be used to turn into Stanwell Street.

One bus is hardly news compared with the 99% of motorists who on Monday morning were trying to go through the bus lane, still can't really blame them as the lane does say "Ahead Only", no mention of buses only apart from a small sign on a post.
[quote][p][bold]Sdapeze[/bold] wrote: Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.[/p][/quote]Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? That's strange, the new layout was only opened on Sunday and the old road onto Southway is now occupied by the "waiting room". The problem was I guess the bus driver going into the "ahead only" lane rather the outside lane that needs to be used to turn into Stanwell Street. One bus is hardly news compared with the 99% of motorists who on Monday morning were trying to go through the bus lane, still can't really blame them as the lane does say "Ahead Only", no mention of buses only apart from a small sign on a post. hughie-s
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8:56am Tue 20 Nov 12

romantic says...

Sdapeze wrote:
Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.
I do hope you didn´t go through the heritage core, sdapeze. Logically, you are implying that your wife is also an idiot, or is it only the other car drivers who are idiots? Obviously, your journey was far more essential than theirs!
[quote][p][bold]Sdapeze[/bold] wrote: Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.[/p][/quote]I do hope you didn´t go through the heritage core, sdapeze. Logically, you are implying that your wife is also an idiot, or is it only the other car drivers who are idiots? Obviously, your journey was far more essential than theirs! romantic
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9:35am Tue 20 Nov 12

Sdapeze says...

Don't tell her what I said or it could get bad for me. She is not one to cross. She has permanent grazes on her knuckles where her hands drag along the ground. Can we just keep this between us?
Don't tell her what I said or it could get bad for me. She is not one to cross. She has permanent grazes on her knuckles where her hands drag along the ground. Can we just keep this between us? Sdapeze
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10:21am Tue 20 Nov 12

Bert_Stimpson says...

Sdapeze wrote:
Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.
She obviously is an idiot for marrying you and subjecting herself to a lifetime of tedium. Barton's Folly should get interesting when the Christmas rush really begins.
[quote][p][bold]Sdapeze[/bold] wrote: Bus drivers throwing toys out of their prams as a fit of pique? Buses have been negotiating that turn for years. Why, all of a sudden, do they have difficulty now? I came through that way today, to see how it looked, and had no problem whatsoever. Felt a bit guilty though as I was in a car, driven by my wife. I will use the bike next time, as I always try to do, to avoid the jams caused by idiot car drivers.[/p][/quote]She obviously is an idiot for marrying you and subjecting herself to a lifetime of tedium. Barton's Folly should get interesting when the Christmas rush really begins. Bert_Stimpson
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11:57am Tue 20 Nov 12

25414nora says...

Any new venture will always have it's teething probs.. I'm sure when the bus drivers recieve a little more education, This will be another Colchester sucess story..
Any new venture will always have it's teething probs.. I'm sure when the bus drivers recieve a little more education, This will be another Colchester sucess story.. 25414nora
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1:40pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Bert_Stimpson says...

25414nora wrote:
Any new venture will always have it's teething probs.. I'm sure when the bus drivers recieve a little more education, This will be another Colchester sucess story..
Another success story? Like Firsts*ite, the park and ride, pedestrianising the high street, traffic management, the cultural quarter...

Barton's Folly Bus Stop is a joke. As for saying bus drivers need 'a little more education', I don't think you could be more condescending if you tried.

Then again, you do have a track record for posting egotistical drivel on here.

ars est celare artem
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Any new venture will always have it's teething probs.. I'm sure when the bus drivers recieve a little more education, This will be another Colchester sucess story..[/p][/quote]Another success story? Like Firsts*ite, the park and ride, pedestrianising the high street, traffic management, the cultural quarter... Barton's Folly Bus Stop is a joke. As for saying bus drivers need 'a little more education', I don't think you could be more condescending if you tried. Then again, you do have a track record for posting egotistical drivel on here. ars est celare artem Bert_Stimpson
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2:09pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Sdapeze says...

Love it Bert. Keep it coming. Your posts remind me of another poster on here that seems to have fallen off his perch. You have filled in for him nicely. Love it!
Love it Bert. Keep it coming. Your posts remind me of another poster on here that seems to have fallen off his perch. You have filled in for him nicely. Love it! Sdapeze
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2:30pm Tue 20 Nov 12

historyman22 says...

Bert, the links between these series of rather strange events are ultimately a clear indication that the council intends railroading its policies through - no matter what others want.

I doubt there is one person or policy to blame, rather it is a littany of errors. The fact that supporters of revised transport scheme think it is the bus drivers (not the bus-street) that are at fault further compounds the position. One blunder after another.

Pedestrianisation of the high street will be the next thing they manage to make a hash of, despite its being intrinsically a good idea.

"Great blunders are made, like large ropes, of a multitude of fibers." - Victor Hugo
Bert, the links between these series of rather strange events are ultimately a clear indication that the council intends railroading its policies through - no matter what others want. I doubt there is one person or policy to blame, rather it is a littany of errors. The fact that supporters of revised transport scheme think it is the bus drivers (not the bus-street) that are at fault further compounds the position. One blunder after another. Pedestrianisation of the high street will be the next thing they manage to make a hash of, despite its being intrinsically a good idea. "Great blunders are made, like large ropes, of a multitude of fibers." - Victor Hugo historyman22
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3:00pm Tue 20 Nov 12

romantic says...

25414nora wrote:
Any new venture will always have it's teething probs.. I'm sure when the bus drivers recieve a little more education, This will be another Colchester sucess story..
I thought for a moment you were being ironic, but I suspect that´s probably not the case! There is a point where seeing the bright side teeters into blind faith.

Not sure it´s fair to pin anything on the drivers, though; they don´t get any more say in this than we, the public, do.
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Any new venture will always have it's teething probs.. I'm sure when the bus drivers recieve a little more education, This will be another Colchester sucess story..[/p][/quote]I thought for a moment you were being ironic, but I suspect that´s probably not the case! There is a point where seeing the bright side teeters into blind faith. Not sure it´s fair to pin anything on the drivers, though; they don´t get any more say in this than we, the public, do. romantic
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