Market traders told to move on (From Essex County Standard)
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Market traders told to move on
2:43pm Thursday 11th October 2012 in News By Wendy Brading
MARKET traders have been forced to move to new pitches after Colchester Council lost a four year legal wrangle.
Six traders have been operating on sites in Culver Street East and Trinity Square, Colchester.
They were paying rent to the council but now they have been moved on because they don’t have permisson to be there.
Comments(18)
romantic
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4:32pm Thu 11 Oct 12
I hope they will be given a bit of time to get alternative locations, it is not really the traders´ fault if the council has been charging them for their pitches.
Bert_Stimpson
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4:46pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Im_Like_HELLO
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4:59pm Thu 11 Oct 12
romantic
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5:22pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Bert_Stimpson wrote:Not just the last 4 years, there have been stalls there for a lot longer than that. Each of those stallholders makes a living from these sites, my fear is that they will get offered alternatives sites which are not viable. These are in some of the best spots in town for passing numbers, the council may want to stick them on the edge of a car park somewhere.
So will the Council reimburse the rent they took from the stallholders during the last 4 years? Or will the Council have to pay it to the actual landowners that hold legal control of the sites these traders were on?
Simon Taylor
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10:38pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Reginald47
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11:08pm Thu 11 Oct 12
Boris
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12:27am Fri 12 Oct 12
It was in the printed paper that Mr Bentham (manager of the shopping centre) wanted them out so that the space could be used profitably by the shopping centre.
The same report pointed out that the shopping centre has a 125-year lease allowing it to dictate exactly what goes on in the streets serving it.
CBC owns the land but allows the shopping centre to take all the profits. Presumably the shopping centre pays a fixed rent in return for this, but it would be interesting to know how much.
wellnow
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9:09am Fri 12 Oct 12
Bert_Stimpson
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9:17am Fri 12 Oct 12
wellnow wrote:Sounds good. And they could move their stalls out of the way every time there is a bus, taxi, disabled driver, motorbike, bike or emergency vehicle trying to get through. Then again, maybe not.
well if the high street is closed to private vehicles all the nostalgic nerds could see the market back there.
Simon Taylor
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10:04am Fri 12 Oct 12
So, who is responsible for maintenance and cleaning of the pavements where the stalls were?
TheCaptain
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10:20am Fri 12 Oct 12
romantic wrote:Yes the Council were trying to keep them there. They have been relocated at the other end of Culver Street.
Interested to know who has decided this if the council have lost the case - does this mean the council were trying to keep them there?
I hope they will be given a bit of time to get alternative locations, it is not really the traders´ fault if the council has been charging them for their pitches.
theequaliser1
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1:12pm Fri 12 Oct 12
rhetoric
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1:56pm Fri 12 Oct 12
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I'm not aware that the High Street has narrowed in the intervening years? The buildings either side are still in their original position!!
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The stalls would be on the edge of the pedestrian area, and fit in well.
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Nostalgic nerds? We are trying to bring some life into what has become by all accounts a sick-strewn litter bin. A market opening early and staying late would be a civilising influence. It would bring a more sober clientele to the area.
TheCaptain
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2:21pm Fri 12 Oct 12
theequaliser1 wrote:Is was not the Council that moved them. It was the private company who leases the shopping centre. The Council wanted them to stay.
Leave Gary and the boys on the stalls alone. There good old Colchester lads. They have the support from the locals the Council should be warned that this is a social time bomb issue that can easily backfire on the Grey Suits!!!!!!
TheCaptain
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2:24pm Fri 12 Oct 12
rhetoric wrote:The road carriageway has narrowed but the street hasn't
In reply to Bert Stimson, the orginal market was held when there was two-way traffic in the High Street, and nobody was held up, except maybe the occasional pedestrian on the footpath because of the crowds buying from the stalls.
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I'm not aware that the High Street has narrowed in the intervening years? The buildings either side are still in their original position!!
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The stalls would be on the edge of the pedestrian area, and fit in well.
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Nostalgic nerds? We are trying to bring some life into what has become by all accounts a sick-strewn litter bin. A market opening early and staying late would be a civilising influence. It would bring a more sober clientele to the area.
jut1972
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8:36pm Sat 13 Oct 12
Boris wrote:Boris, was this the same guy that didnt want charity collections in Culver Square as it put off shoppers?
The report as shown here is jejune in the extreme.
It was in the printed paper that Mr Bentham (manager of the shopping centre) wanted them out so that the space could be used profitably by the shopping centre.
The same report pointed out that the shopping centre has a 125-year lease allowing it to dictate exactly what goes on in the streets serving it.
CBC owns the land but allows the shopping centre to take all the profits. Presumably the shopping centre pays a fixed rent in return for this, but it would be interesting to know how much.
What a charming gent he must be.
SOMETHING2SAY
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9:11am Wed 17 Oct 12
rhetoric says...
3:09pm Thu 11 Oct 12
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Anyway, central Colchester was much livelier when the market was in the High St, people coming in from villages all round the area, High St packed with shoppers, high quality produce etc for sale. To push away those brave traders who have been hanging on near to the High St is insanity.
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Where I now live there are two market days with a very large number of stalls, right in the Town Centre, and we see the result in packed out buses from early in the morning. The stalls are now permanent in one location, and in all they cover three pedestrian areas currently.
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There are other markets - Farmer's once a month and horticultural most Fridays, frequent Continental specials and so on. Very nice to be able to buy from somewhere other than a supermarket just for a change, and it actually boosts the number visiting most of the Town Centre shops too.