Odeon site to be sorted sooner... and it won't get demolished

Odeon site to be sorted sooner... and it won't get demolished

Odeon site to be sorted sooner... and it won't get demolished

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WORK to renovate one of Colchester’s most famous buildings could take place much sooner than anticipated.

Ross Carroll, of developer Amdev 101, bought the dilapidated former Odoen Cinema in Crouch Street nearly two years ago.

In June, he submitted long-awaited plans to convert it into three shops and 43 flats.

Its 1930s Art Deco facade would be preserved.

But costs associated with the £14million project have forced Mr Carroll to go back to the drawing board and change it.

He said: “We got a quotation for £385,000 for the demolition and once we got that through, we had a eureka moment.

“We have now decided to utilise the rear of the building.

Nowwe are not pulling down any of the building, we are going to work with what we have.”

The changes mean Mr Carroll needs fresh drawings produced for planners at Colchester Council.

For a special report, see Monday's Gazette

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10:41am Mon 18 Aug 14

totallyfootball says...

He's stalling, what a messer!
He's stalling, what a messer! totallyfootball
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11:46am Mon 18 Aug 14

super waluigi says...

If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.
If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building. super waluigi
  • Score: -1

12:39pm Mon 18 Aug 14

totallyfootball says...

super waluigi wrote:
If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.
Waste, where are people going to park?
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.[/p][/quote]Waste, where are people going to park? totallyfootball
  • Score: 2

3:43pm Mon 18 Aug 14

jut1972 says...

super waluigi wrote:
If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.
Cos he bought it and will make more out of flats. Simples.
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.[/p][/quote]Cos he bought it and will make more out of flats. Simples. jut1972
  • Score: 3

4:04pm Mon 18 Aug 14

super waluigi says...

jut1972 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.
Cos he bought it and will make more out of flats. Simples.
I understand how money works, but I am more concerned with the town development than his wallet development. Veto his proposal.
[quote][p][bold]jut1972[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.[/p][/quote]Cos he bought it and will make more out of flats. Simples.[/p][/quote]I understand how money works, but I am more concerned with the town development than his wallet development. Veto his proposal. super waluigi
  • Score: -3

4:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

super waluigi says...

totallyfootball wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.
Waste, where are people going to park?
Not really. I have stayed in uk towns such as Salisbury, Bristol, Preston, bath, etc and got the train. Lots of uk towns have inner city hotels with limited parking.
[quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.[/p][/quote]Waste, where are people going to park?[/p][/quote]Not really. I have stayed in uk towns such as Salisbury, Bristol, Preston, bath, etc and got the train. Lots of uk towns have inner city hotels with limited parking. super waluigi
  • Score: 0

11:03pm Mon 18 Aug 14

Boris says...

super waluigi wrote:
totallyfootball wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.
Waste, where are people going to park?
Not really. I have stayed in uk towns such as Salisbury, Bristol, Preston, bath, etc and got the train. Lots of uk towns have inner city hotels with limited parking.
Aggreed, hotels don't need car parks, but Colchester has enough hotels, no more are needed.
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]totallyfootball[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: If the town is growing, why is this building not bring converted into a hotel? Any new flats built here would be a waste of this building.[/p][/quote]Waste, where are people going to park?[/p][/quote]Not really. I have stayed in uk towns such as Salisbury, Bristol, Preston, bath, etc and got the train. Lots of uk towns have inner city hotels with limited parking.[/p][/quote]Aggreed, hotels don't need car parks, but Colchester has enough hotels, no more are needed. Boris
  • Score: -1

11:06pm Mon 18 Aug 14

colcestrian says...

Is it just me or have they not done their sums, surely you get quotes for any work before you submit plans ? That way when the contractor sais its going to cost £385,00 to demolish it, you don't have to suddenly change what your going to do as you can't afford that ! According to the printed version of this article, the plan to convert the building to a cinema was going to cost £9 million, and they couldn't afford that, yet they seem to have the finances to convert to flats and shops in a £14 million scheme ?
Is it just me or have they not done their sums, surely you get quotes for any work before you submit plans ? That way when the contractor sais its going to cost £385,00 to demolish it, you don't have to suddenly change what your going to do as you can't afford that ! According to the printed version of this article, the plan to convert the building to a cinema was going to cost £9 million, and they couldn't afford that, yet they seem to have the finances to convert to flats and shops in a £14 million scheme ? colcestrian
  • Score: -1

1:21pm Wed 20 Aug 14

stevedawson says...

Walked past it recently?
Walked past it recently? stevedawson
  • Score: -1

10:03pm Thu 21 Aug 14

suzywright says...

He bought it subject to planning. In other words he hasn't bought it yet.
This is an interesting case as I can't see Highways allowing 50 odd cars coming in and out in to Crouch st through the tiny area to the left of the main building. This building has to change to amend the entrance into it.
Colcestrian is absolutely correct in that any proper developer would have known about the demolition costs prior to submitting an application. However the Odeon have a covenant on the building to prevent it being another cinema. Can't see this happening anytime soon. I still struggle to work out the costs. £14m to build, £2m to buy it. That's £372k per flat to break even on cost alone!
He bought it subject to planning. In other words he hasn't bought it yet. This is an interesting case as I can't see Highways allowing 50 odd cars coming in and out in to Crouch st through the tiny area to the left of the main building. This building has to change to amend the entrance into it. Colcestrian is absolutely correct in that any proper developer would have known about the demolition costs prior to submitting an application. However the Odeon have a covenant on the building to prevent it being another cinema. Can't see this happening anytime soon. I still struggle to work out the costs. £14m to build, £2m to buy it. That's £372k per flat to break even on cost alone! suzywright
  • Score: 0

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