New town for north Essex?

First published in News

A NEW town or village could be built in north Essex to try and tackle the region’s desperate housing shortage.

Colchester Council has officially invited builders to say where they want to build major new housing developments, particularly so-called “garden cities”.

Previously heralded sites include land east of Greenstead, where 4,000 homes have been mooted, and West Tey, a proposed new 7,500 home village west of Marks Tey.

However, potential developers could offer to build homes on any land.

A “garden city” is defined as a new settlement with several thousand homes coupled with the jobs and community facilities needed to make it a “sustainable” community.

A survey published in June found there is demand for between 1,065 and 1,225 new houses and flats in Colchester every year.

The borough’s population is growing faster than its neighbours in Essex and is expected to hit 200,000 in 2021.

For a special report, see Friday's Gazette

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3:49pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Dug says...

A 7,500 home 'village' A description to make large urbanisation sound quite romantic.

We need to bite the bullet and stop encouraging young immigrants to pay for our burgeoning elderly population, even if we have to take pain ourselves (eg with an immediate rise in the retirement age) - we need to stop mortgaging the issue for future generations to pick up an even larger mess. At some point there'll be a tipping point and our description of our country as a green and pleasant land will be a sick joke.
A 7,500 home 'village' A description to make large urbanisation sound quite romantic. We need to bite the bullet and stop encouraging young immigrants to pay for our burgeoning elderly population, even if we have to take pain ourselves (eg with an immediate rise in the retirement age) - we need to stop mortgaging the issue for future generations to pick up an even larger mess. At some point there'll be a tipping point and our description of our country as a green and pleasant land will be a sick joke. Dug
  • Score: -7

4:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jack222 says...

We have not built enough houses for over 40 years and the main problem now is caused by an increasing elderly population (they don't die so we cant put new people in their houses) and the huge increase in single families.

We need the new estates to be built ... But we wont bite the bullet as all who own homes don't want prices to go down - and that's the reasons Nimbys want all development to stop... Who, voluntarily, wants to lose money?
We have not built enough houses for over 40 years and the main problem now is caused by an increasing elderly population (they don't die so we cant put new people in their houses) and the huge increase in single families. We need the new estates to be built ... But we wont bite the bullet as all who own homes don't want prices to go down - and that's the reasons Nimbys want all development to stop... Who, voluntarily, wants to lose money? Jack222
  • Score: -11

4:20pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hughie-s says...

Dug wrote:
A 7,500 home 'village' A description to make large urbanisation sound quite romantic.

We need to bite the bullet and stop encouraging young immigrants to pay for our burgeoning elderly population, even if we have to take pain ourselves (eg with an immediate rise in the retirement age) - we need to stop mortgaging the issue for future generations to pick up an even larger mess. At some point there'll be a tipping point and our description of our country as a green and pleasant land will be a sick joke.
It will be about the same size as the villages of Maldon & Witham.
[quote][p][bold]Dug[/bold] wrote: A 7,500 home 'village' A description to make large urbanisation sound quite romantic. We need to bite the bullet and stop encouraging young immigrants to pay for our burgeoning elderly population, even if we have to take pain ourselves (eg with an immediate rise in the retirement age) - we need to stop mortgaging the issue for future generations to pick up an even larger mess. At some point there'll be a tipping point and our description of our country as a green and pleasant land will be a sick joke.[/p][/quote]It will be about the same size as the villages of Maldon & Witham. hughie-s
  • Score: 3

4:23pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hughie-s says...

Jack222 wrote:
We have not built enough houses for over 40 years and the main problem now is caused by an increasing elderly population (they don't die so we cant put new people in their houses) and the huge increase in single families.

We need the new estates to be built ... But we wont bite the bullet as all who own homes don't want prices to go down - and that's the reasons Nimbys want all development to stop... Who, voluntarily, wants to lose money?
We are building the wrong sort of homes, if one/two bedroom bungalows were available many old people would be happy to move into them freeing up larger properties.
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: We have not built enough houses for over 40 years and the main problem now is caused by an increasing elderly population (they don't die so we cant put new people in their houses) and the huge increase in single families. We need the new estates to be built ... But we wont bite the bullet as all who own homes don't want prices to go down - and that's the reasons Nimbys want all development to stop... Who, voluntarily, wants to lose money?[/p][/quote]We are building the wrong sort of homes, if one/two bedroom bungalows were available many old people would be happy to move into them freeing up larger properties. hughie-s
  • Score: 18

5:27pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Jess Jephcott says...

It's a changing world for sure. My understanding is that there a lot of people coming to Colchester from London on a council to council social housing agreement basis. So there is a problem waiting to happen. We think we have knife crime problems now; let's just wait for the outcome of this piece of social engineering. As to the 7500 house village, I live in the village of Fordham that has around 320 houses. That is going to be some village! But, if it must be so, surely it can broken up into smaller land parcels, 300 here, 300 there. etc. But, if it must be so, it would be crazy to build anywhere near Mile End as that is already a ticking timebomb from a traffic congestion and lack of infrastructure viewpoint, agreed by damned fools (or corrupt ones) in my opinion. Surely the sensible area for development would be the West Tey area where A12 access and proximity to Marks Tey railway station would have considerably less of an impact on Colchester town. Added to that, it should bring the much needed A120 enhancement. The final factor for me would be a good balance of 1, 2, 3 bedroom properties with plenty of garden space. Will it happen like that, or will it be yet more horrible little multi-storey rabbit hutches all crammed together to maximise the profits of the faceless and uncaring property speculators?
It's a changing world for sure. My understanding is that there a lot of people coming to Colchester from London on a council to council social housing agreement basis. So there is a problem waiting to happen. We think we have knife crime problems now; let's just wait for the outcome of this piece of social engineering. As to the 7500 house village, I live in the village of Fordham that has around 320 houses. That is going to be some village! But, if it must be so, surely it can broken up into smaller land parcels, 300 here, 300 there. etc. But, if it must be so, it would be crazy to build anywhere near Mile End as that is already a ticking timebomb from a traffic congestion and lack of infrastructure viewpoint, agreed by damned fools (or corrupt ones) in my opinion. Surely the sensible area for development would be the West Tey area where A12 access and proximity to Marks Tey railway station would have considerably less of an impact on Colchester town. Added to that, it should bring the much needed A120 enhancement. The final factor for me would be a good balance of 1, 2, 3 bedroom properties with plenty of garden space. Will it happen like that, or will it be yet more horrible little multi-storey rabbit hutches all crammed together to maximise the profits of the faceless and uncaring property speculators? Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 34

9:34pm Fri 1 Aug 14

sam vines says...

7500 home village says to me no new schools no new hospital and Colchester General and Schools will have to support it. This place should only be built if it can support its self.
7500 home village says to me no new schools no new hospital and Colchester General and Schools will have to support it. This place should only be built if it can support its self. sam vines
  • Score: 36

12:06am Sat 2 Aug 14

hughie-s says...

sam vines wrote:
7500 home village says to me no new schools no new hospital and Colchester General and Schools will have to support it. This place should only be built if it can support its self.
If west of Mark's Tey or east of Greenstead then Braintree/Tendring will pocket the council tax while Colchester gets stuck with the problems
[quote][p][bold]sam vines[/bold] wrote: 7500 home village says to me no new schools no new hospital and Colchester General and Schools will have to support it. This place should only be built if it can support its self.[/p][/quote]If west of Mark's Tey or east of Greenstead then Braintree/Tendring will pocket the council tax while Colchester gets stuck with the problems hughie-s
  • Score: 22

5:37am Sat 2 Aug 14

gizabreak says...

Have no objection to new homes but there has to be the amenities put in place before building housing estates and drowning the doctors surgery and schools and roads ....as was previously stated..it's bad just now but unfortunately Colchester is becoming an overspill for London Burroughs and having had experience of the outcome of this before I am under no illusion that things will get much worse but the powers that be won't listen so unfortunately the beautiful town of Colchester will be somewhere that people want to move from and not move to...I came to Colchester 20 yrs ago and worked hard to enable and achieve a better life for my children. Sad to say that will not be the case for my Grandchildren.
Have no objection to new homes but there has to be the amenities put in place before building housing estates and drowning the doctors surgery and schools and roads ....as was previously stated..it's bad just now but unfortunately Colchester is becoming an overspill for London Burroughs and having had experience of the outcome of this before I am under no illusion that things will get much worse but the powers that be won't listen so unfortunately the beautiful town of Colchester will be somewhere that people want to move from and not move to...I came to Colchester 20 yrs ago and worked hard to enable and achieve a better life for my children. Sad to say that will not be the case for my Grandchildren. gizabreak
  • Score: 21

10:29am Sat 2 Aug 14

Navajo wife says...

Dug and Jack..well, so us oldies are not dying fast enough for you. Do you realize just how stupid you sound. I am so glad I dont live there now. With that way of thinking, people may get the idea of popping off anyone over sixty. Now, do you see how stupid that sounds..
Dug and Jack..well, so us oldies are not dying fast enough for you. Do you realize just how stupid you sound. I am so glad I dont live there now. With that way of thinking, people may get the idea of popping off anyone over sixty. Now, do you see how stupid that sounds.. Navajo wife
  • Score: 13

2:46pm Sat 2 Aug 14

jeneefar says...

I have to agree Navajo wife, what an ignorant statement from Jack222. I guess this person is not elderly themselves but when they are in a future closer than they think, maybe they will be glad to be one of those who 'do not die'.
I have to agree Navajo wife, what an ignorant statement from Jack222. I guess this person is not elderly themselves but when they are in a future closer than they think, maybe they will be glad to be one of those who 'do not die'. jeneefar
  • Score: 11

2:02am Sun 3 Aug 14

Assimilation says...

If these estates or villages as they call them are built, then the first thing to build is a School, Doctors surgery and shops that will support them, with the houses built around them.
Instead of building the houses first, and then the developers coming out with " We cant build them now, as we have run out of money" Like what has happened so many times in the past.
That clause should be written into the contract before planning given.
If these estates or villages as they call them are built, then the first thing to build is a School, Doctors surgery and shops that will support them, with the houses built around them. Instead of building the houses first, and then the developers coming out with " We cant build them now, as we have run out of money" Like what has happened so many times in the past. That clause should be written into the contract before planning given. Assimilation
  • Score: 11

3:13am Sun 3 Aug 14

rhetoric says...

Thanks a million to those who want us to die faster so that a generation of mostly greedy, selfish and yobbish louts can take over the homes for which we slaved.
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Should we downsize faster and much more often? By the time one has paid the various fees and removal expenses, new appliances etc, there is nothing left between the price of the 3-bed and the 2-bed or smaller. So,
should we throw away a comfortable home and a piece of our equity to those who've never known war, insecurity etc?
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All the above a "sweeping statement"? Well, so are the silly comments made re. the aged.
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Are you going to downsize to a bicycle because more space is urgently needed on the roads for "essential" transport or cut the size of your projected family to make room for others and give all children the chance of a better education and more health care?
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Start on the elderly in the way you suggest, and be sure that something nastier will follow! It doesn't take long before the Benevolent and Caring State limits births to one per family and so on.
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Our family unit acquired the house by not having things we couldn't pay for, by never owing money but rather going without, by not showing off and by making our own clothes, growing veg etc. We don't consider we owe anyone anything very much, never having been left money or given any financial help. Many used to live like this, now all young people seem to think they're "entitled"!!
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We seem to be giving a lot of support to younger friends who are struggling to keep up the iPhone/overseas hols/night- out lifestyle but we are getting pleasure from their company, as we endeavour to pass on a little of what we have learned from experience and a long life. Thank heavens for the few who don't recoil from the "elderly" and wish us all consigned to the Euthanasia Ward!
Thanks a million to those who want us to die faster so that a generation of mostly greedy, selfish and yobbish louts can take over the homes for which we slaved. . Should we downsize faster and much more often? By the time one has paid the various fees and removal expenses, new appliances etc, there is nothing left between the price of the 3-bed and the 2-bed or smaller. So, should we throw away a comfortable home and a piece of our equity to those who've never known war, insecurity etc? . All the above a "sweeping statement"? Well, so are the silly comments made re. the aged. . Are you going to downsize to a bicycle because more space is urgently needed on the roads for "essential" transport or cut the size of your projected family to make room for others and give all children the chance of a better education and more health care? . Start on the elderly in the way you suggest, and be sure that something nastier will follow! It doesn't take long before the Benevolent and Caring State limits births to one per family and so on. . Our family unit acquired the house by not having things we couldn't pay for, by never owing money but rather going without, by not showing off and by making our own clothes, growing veg etc. We don't consider we owe anyone anything very much, never having been left money or given any financial help. Many used to live like this, now all young people seem to think they're "entitled"!! . We seem to be giving a lot of support to younger friends who are struggling to keep up the iPhone/overseas hols/night- out lifestyle but we are getting pleasure from their company, as we endeavour to pass on a little of what we have learned from experience and a long life. Thank heavens for the few who don't recoil from the "elderly" and wish us all consigned to the Euthanasia Ward! rhetoric
  • Score: 9

7:52am Sun 3 Aug 14

R Souls says...

Well I have less than 10 years until I retire and I have no money worries thanks to decades of hard work. But I don't want major development in the area. What next, Braintree City? Essex has had enough and is at crisis point. The M12 and a dual carriageway from Stansted to Harwich are long overdue. People are being killed or seriously injured every week on these roads because they are over capacity. Colchester council should be talking about upgrading the infrastructure before they court housing developers.

What is this obsession with bigger is better? Much more development and I will be selling up and taking my money somewhere else.
Well I have less than 10 years until I retire and I have no money worries thanks to decades of hard work. But I don't want major development in the area. What next, Braintree City? Essex has had enough and is at crisis point. The M12 and a dual carriageway from Stansted to Harwich are long overdue. People are being killed or seriously injured every week on these roads because they are over capacity. Colchester council should be talking about upgrading the infrastructure before they court housing developers. What is this obsession with bigger is better? Much more development and I will be selling up and taking my money somewhere else. R Souls
  • Score: 6

9:06am Sun 3 Aug 14

Con Spirito says...

A “garden city” is defined as a new settlement with several thousand homes coupled with the jobs and community facilities needed to make it a “sustainable” community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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So there'll be absolutely no chance of that then, with the unemployment and lack of jobs situation as it is at present. Or will these places become an annexe of Global City (London), and maybe filled with those "international new age" fun loving "Cockneys"?
A “garden city” is defined as a new settlement with several thousand homes coupled with the jobs and community facilities needed to make it a “sustainable” community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >. So there'll be absolutely no chance of that then, with the unemployment and lack of jobs situation as it is at present. Or will these places become an annexe of Global City (London), and maybe filled with those "international new age" fun loving "Cockneys"? Con Spirito
  • Score: 4

9:29am Sun 3 Aug 14

stevedawson says...

The lunatics are surely now in charge of the whole caboodal.open the cage.
The lunatics are surely now in charge of the whole caboodal.open the cage. stevedawson
  • Score: 0

10:06am Sun 3 Aug 14

AVeryPrivateGentleman says...

Someone Joked the other day on these threads and used the name KILLCHESTER i suppose that name wont be thrown in the hat?
I think Dawson has quite sardonically put it! as above.
And please Rhetoric for crying out loud I thought I was bad....As Lord Boris states LESS IS MORE!
You wont stop it nor will I nor will anyone else The Great UK will turn into the European Island version of HONG KONG and there is nothing we can do about it.
I see a population of easily 100 Million.
It will be tight but the commerce and jobs it will bring, will be conducive to protecting us all.
AVPG:
Someone Joked the other day on these threads and used the name KILLCHESTER i suppose that name wont be thrown in the hat? I think Dawson has quite sardonically put it! as above. And please Rhetoric for crying out loud I thought I was bad....As Lord Boris states LESS IS MORE! You wont stop it nor will I nor will anyone else The Great UK will turn into the European Island version of HONG KONG and there is nothing we can do about it. I see a population of easily 100 Million. It will be tight but the commerce and jobs it will bring, will be conducive to protecting us all. AVPG: AVeryPrivateGentleman
  • Score: -5

10:18am Sun 3 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

For the past 20 years Russell and his band of Anoraks have tried to block every road scheme and redevelopment of the town. They campaigned against the Norman Way extension, "found" rare plants in Mile End fields, allowed the water tower to crumble ,battled with ECC for purely political reasons. They refused to take part in any joined up planning process.
AND now the town is reaping the whirlwind of Russells ignorance.
KRO-kick Russell out.
For the past 20 years Russell and his band of Anoraks have tried to block every road scheme and redevelopment of the town. They campaigned against the Norman Way extension, "found" rare plants in Mile End fields, allowed the water tower to crumble ,battled with ECC for purely political reasons. They refused to take part in any joined up planning process. AND now the town is reaping the whirlwind of Russells ignorance. KRO-kick Russell out. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 7

10:41am Sun 3 Aug 14

afafaf says...

Growth, growth growth, GDP, GDP, GDP….we need to identify what is an optimal (sustainable) population in a country such as the UK and plan accordingly. Building more homes simply destroys the environment around us and makes life miserable for everybody. I don't want to live in a place covered in concrete but that is exactly where Colchester and the SE generally is heading. Time for thinking outside the box or we will all be doomed.!
Growth, growth growth, GDP, GDP, GDP….we need to identify what is an optimal (sustainable) population in a country such as the UK and plan accordingly. Building more homes simply destroys the environment around us and makes life miserable for everybody. I don't want to live in a place covered in concrete but that is exactly where Colchester and the SE generally is heading. Time for thinking outside the box or we will all be doomed.! afafaf
  • Score: 9

10:47am Sun 3 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

Over the last 20 years Colchester could have become a Garden City with a population of over 200000,highly rated Schools , Hospitals and Transport Systems. The Towns retail stores could be booming.
The Nimbies of Surrey Sussex Kent and Bucks would now be under severe pressure to do their bit.
BUT Russell and his Anoraks destroyed the Dream.
Instead the Anoraks created a shambles for their children and grandchildren to clear up.
KRO!!
Over the last 20 years Colchester could have become a Garden City with a population of over 200000,highly rated Schools , Hospitals and Transport Systems. The Towns retail stores could be booming. The Nimbies of Surrey Sussex Kent and Bucks would now be under severe pressure to do their bit. BUT Russell and his Anoraks destroyed the Dream. Instead the Anoraks created a shambles for their children and grandchildren to clear up. KRO!! Shrubendlad
  • Score: 3

11:07am Sun 3 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

afafaf wrote:
Growth, growth growth, GDP, GDP, GDP….we need to identify what is an optimal (sustainable) population in a country such as the UK and plan accordingly. Building more homes simply destroys the environment around us and makes life miserable for everybody. I don't want to live in a place covered in concrete but that is exactly where Colchester and the SE generally is heading. Time for thinking outside the box or we will all be doomed.!
Reduce the numbers of MPs by 50%.Close the Royal Palaces. Move the English Parliament to Manchester.
The 12 other main cities in England could then be restructured.
No need for more expansion in the South East-the pressure would be spread around the country.
The world population has multiplied four fold since Russell was born in London in 1946.
PLAN PLAN PLAN.
KRO
[quote][p][bold]afafaf[/bold] wrote: Growth, growth growth, GDP, GDP, GDP….we need to identify what is an optimal (sustainable) population in a country such as the UK and plan accordingly. Building more homes simply destroys the environment around us and makes life miserable for everybody. I don't want to live in a place covered in concrete but that is exactly where Colchester and the SE generally is heading. Time for thinking outside the box or we will all be doomed.![/p][/quote]Reduce the numbers of MPs by 50%.Close the Royal Palaces. Move the English Parliament to Manchester. The 12 other main cities in England could then be restructured. No need for more expansion in the South East-the pressure would be spread around the country. The world population has multiplied four fold since Russell was born in London in 1946. PLAN PLAN PLAN. KRO Shrubendlad
  • Score: -3

11:25am Sun 3 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

£15 Billion has been wasted on Cross Rail. The Palace of Westminster is planning £1Billion in renovations. £250million has been spent by Russell
paying South Africans to build a not fit for purpose airport on St Helena.
Spend our resources and power restructuring housing and manufacturing around 12 English cities and take the pressure off the South East.
KRO
PLAN PLAN PLAN.
£15 Billion has been wasted on Cross Rail. The Palace of Westminster is planning £1Billion in renovations. £250million has been spent by Russell paying South Africans to build a not fit for purpose airport on St Helena. Spend our resources and power restructuring housing and manufacturing around 12 English cities and take the pressure off the South East. KRO PLAN PLAN PLAN. Shrubendlad
  • Score: -3

12:06pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Smouldering Ewok says...

Yup, i totally agree with some of the comments above.
The infrastructure in this area is not at it's best and yet, still more homes have to be built.
Where are the jobs?
How can a fading front line service cope with thousands of newly added homes?
We are soon to have only one hospital in the area as Essex County Hospital is to close.
We are losing also our fire station and, police admit that they can hardly cope.
Drivers are fully aware that the roads are in a state.
Voters have no confidence in the powers that be, most of our industry in Colchester has collapsed and the young adults don't seem to give a fudge as long as they have their virtual world to escape to.
Bright future for Colchester? I think not.
Yup, i totally agree with some of the comments above. The infrastructure in this area is not at it's best and yet, still more homes have to be built. Where are the jobs? How can a fading front line service cope with thousands of newly added homes? We are soon to have only one hospital in the area as Essex County Hospital is to close. We are losing also our fire station and, police admit that they can hardly cope. Drivers are fully aware that the roads are in a state. Voters have no confidence in the powers that be, most of our industry in Colchester has collapsed and the young adults don't seem to give a fudge as long as they have their virtual world to escape to. Bright future for Colchester? I think not. Smouldering Ewok
  • Score: 5

1:06pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Shrubendlad says...

AVeryPrivateGentlema
n
wrote:
Someone Joked the other day on these threads and used the name KILLCHESTER i suppose that name wont be thrown in the hat?
I think Dawson has quite sardonically put it! as above.
And please Rhetoric for crying out loud I thought I was bad....As Lord Boris states LESS IS MORE!
You wont stop it nor will I nor will anyone else The Great UK will turn into the European Island version of HONG KONG and there is nothing we can do about it.
I see a population of easily 100 Million.
It will be tight but the commerce and jobs it will bring, will be conducive to protecting us all.
AVPG:
Plan for an English population of 65Million
Plan a Gross Domestic Product for England of £4Trillion.
Stop having a balance of trade deficit.
Stop wasting money on Scotland and Ireland. Let them pay for themselves.
Regenerate 12 English Cities. North Sea Oil has gone.
Put your Parliament in the middle of the country/close the London Royal Palaces-we have a constitutional monarch.
Turn Colchester into a 200,000 populated Garden City.
KRO.
[quote][p][bold]AVeryPrivateGentlema n[/bold] wrote: Someone Joked the other day on these threads and used the name KILLCHESTER i suppose that name wont be thrown in the hat? I think Dawson has quite sardonically put it! as above. And please Rhetoric for crying out loud I thought I was bad....As Lord Boris states LESS IS MORE! You wont stop it nor will I nor will anyone else The Great UK will turn into the European Island version of HONG KONG and there is nothing we can do about it. I see a population of easily 100 Million. It will be tight but the commerce and jobs it will bring, will be conducive to protecting us all. AVPG:[/p][/quote]Plan for an English population of 65Million Plan a Gross Domestic Product for England of £4Trillion. Stop having a balance of trade deficit. Stop wasting money on Scotland and Ireland. Let them pay for themselves. Regenerate 12 English Cities. North Sea Oil has gone. Put your Parliament in the middle of the country/close the London Royal Palaces-we have a constitutional monarch. Turn Colchester into a 200,000 populated Garden City. KRO. Shrubendlad
  • Score: -3

3:21am Mon 4 Aug 14

Navajo wife says...

I agree with a lot of what's said. When I arrived in the beautiful Napa Wine Country iin 1968-there were just a handful of wineries,.now hou can't count them, and it's too expensive to live there..doubled.fron the 67000 people. So, I completely understand all of your worries.A growing population and growth is not always good.for the area. And YES it will bring more criminal activity, no doubt aboutthat. SO,after that long speech, progress is NOT always good.
I agree with a lot of what's said. When I arrived in the beautiful Napa Wine Country iin 1968-there were just a handful of wineries,.now hou can't count them, and it's too expensive to live there..doubled.fron the 67000 people. So, I completely understand all of your worries.A growing population and growth is not always good.for the area. And YES it will bring more criminal activity, no doubt aboutthat. SO,after that long speech, progress is NOT always good. Navajo wife
  • Score: 3

9:02pm Wed 6 Aug 14

southstand says...

Jack222 wrote:
We have not built enough houses for over 40 years and the main problem now is caused by an increasing elderly population (they don't die so we cant put new people in their houses) and the huge increase in single families.

We need the new estates to be built ... But we wont bite the bullet as all who own homes don't want prices to go down - and that's the reasons Nimbys want all development to stop... Who, voluntarily, wants to lose money?
"caused by increasing elderly population and single families" true to a degree but you are ignoring the blatantly obvious fact that 7.5million of the population weren't even born in britain ! thanks to labours open door policy and continued by the tories the average working english family are in for a very bleak future! As for not enough houses built for the last forty years where did that come from? the boom was the last 15, try looking at a census
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: We have not built enough houses for over 40 years and the main problem now is caused by an increasing elderly population (they don't die so we cant put new people in their houses) and the huge increase in single families. We need the new estates to be built ... But we wont bite the bullet as all who own homes don't want prices to go down - and that's the reasons Nimbys want all development to stop... Who, voluntarily, wants to lose money?[/p][/quote]"caused by increasing elderly population and single families" true to a degree but you are ignoring the blatantly obvious fact that 7.5million of the population weren't even born in britain ! thanks to labours open door policy and continued by the tories the average working english family are in for a very bleak future! As for not enough houses built for the last forty years where did that come from? the boom was the last 15, try looking at a census southstand
  • Score: 3

9:34pm Thu 7 Aug 14

InspectorMontalbano says...

I think we should name the new town or village ATTFIELD after the death and seriously sad loss of Jim R.I.P.+
It would be a fitting tribute and a poignant reminder of our love a duty to each other.
I think we should name the new town or village ATTFIELD after the death and seriously sad loss of Jim R.I.P.+ It would be a fitting tribute and a poignant reminder of our love a duty to each other. InspectorMontalbano
  • Score: 0

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