Latest round of fire strikes announced

Latest round of fire strikes announced

Latest round of fire strikes announced

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FIREFIGHTERS are to hold their latest series of strikes over pension reforms.

Members of the Fire Brigades Union announced 16 strikes which will take place over eight days between August 9 and 16.

They will strike between 12pm and 2pm and 10:59pm and 11:59pm everyday between August 9 and 16.

It is part of a national dispute over pensions.

Essex County Fire and Rescue Service has resilience arrangements in place to ensure fire cover is maintained across the county throughout the strike period but has asked the public to play their part in keeping risk to a minimum.

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5:27pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Ladydolphin.mh says...

WE NEED TO GET BEHIND OUR FIREFIGHTERS, WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR PENSIONS?
THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO PROVIDE COVER DURING THE STRIKES, WHY DON'T THEY USE THE BUDGETS TO SAVE OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS FROM STRIKING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BIG HANDS 👐 UP TO OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS!
WE NEED TO GET BEHIND OUR FIREFIGHTERS, WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR PENSIONS? THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO PROVIDE COVER DURING THE STRIKES, WHY DON'T THEY USE THE BUDGETS TO SAVE OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS FROM STRIKING IN THE FIRST PLACE. BIG HANDS 👐 UP TO OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS! Ladydolphin.mh
  • Score: 11

6:25pm Thu 31 Jul 14

sesibollox says...

What's brave about going on strike ? pension reforms have come about due the need to curb whats paid out versus whats paid in, it doesn't add up, simples.
What's brave about going on strike ? pension reforms have come about due the need to curb whats paid out versus whats paid in, it doesn't add up, simples. sesibollox
  • Score: -6

6:32pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Boris says...

Contracts must be respected. Support the firefighters.
Contracts must be respected. Support the firefighters. Boris
  • Score: 26

6:35pm Thu 31 Jul 14

sesibollox says...

Ladydolphin.mh wrote:
WE NEED TO GET BEHIND OUR FIREFIGHTERS, WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR PENSIONS?
THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO PROVIDE COVER DURING THE STRIKES, WHY DON'T THEY USE THE BUDGETS TO SAVE OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS FROM STRIKING IN THE FIRST PLACE.
BIG HANDS 👐 UP TO OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS!
RUBBISH
[quote][p][bold]Ladydolphin.mh[/bold] wrote: WE NEED TO GET BEHIND OUR FIREFIGHTERS, WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR PENSIONS? THEY SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE BUDGET TO PROVIDE COVER DURING THE STRIKES, WHY DON'T THEY USE THE BUDGETS TO SAVE OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS FROM STRIKING IN THE FIRST PLACE. BIG HANDS 👐 UP TO OUR BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS![/p][/quote]RUBBISH sesibollox
  • Score: -10

7:30pm Thu 31 Jul 14

iknowbetter says...

sesibollox wrote:
What's brave about going on strike ? pension reforms have come about due the need to curb whats paid out versus whats paid in, it doesn't add up, simples.
Shall we assume when the Government agreed to the pensions from the outset that whoever worked out the "whats paid in V Whats paid out" they didnt do their maths working on your assumption, hardly the Firefighters fault now is it.
Basically the Government must honour their contracts and pension agreement after all when they signed up that is exactly what they expected and not for the Government to change it half way through their service, bit unfair is it not. Well understandable then that many opt for strike action as its their only option to fight for their right and what they signed for at the start of their service.
[quote][p][bold]sesibollox[/bold] wrote: What's brave about going on strike ? pension reforms have come about due the need to curb whats paid out versus whats paid in, it doesn't add up, simples.[/p][/quote]Shall we assume when the Government agreed to the pensions from the outset that whoever worked out the "whats paid in V Whats paid out" they didnt do their maths working on your assumption, hardly the Firefighters fault now is it. Basically the Government must honour their contracts and pension agreement after all when they signed up that is exactly what they expected and not for the Government to change it half way through their service, bit unfair is it not. Well understandable then that many opt for strike action as its their only option to fight for their right and what they signed for at the start of their service. iknowbetter
  • Score: 2

9:55pm Thu 31 Jul 14

alarminstaller says...

Ultimately they should all do their sums then put their heads together.

The firefighters are quids down and loss of pay for strike days will be very hard to make good.

They must also realise that in reality they are not getting the real support of the public, as has happened in the many strikes the FBU have been involved in for many years, and they must stop thinking they have support which is just not true.

Personally I believe they have a strong case on pensions it is wrong to expect old guys to be able to do what young guys can do, which can put other lives in danger when an old guy gets into trouble in a fire because they are knackered due to age and a young guy has to go back in to rescue the old guy.

Also what must be considered is it is just not good value for money for the public if you pay the top salary to old guys who are no longer able to do their job after 30 years, which is just not fair on either side tax payers and customers.

However looking at how the government have almost totally destroyed The Police in many ways, conditions, pay, pensions and morale by daily criticism with little support from government.
I believe the same will happen to the Fire Service, which is wrong on both accounts.

If you expect police and fireman to risk their lives on our behalf they MUST be treated as special cases, and retiring at a sensible age is a must.
Ultimately they should all do their sums then put their heads together. The firefighters are quids down and loss of pay for strike days will be very hard to make good. They must also realise that in reality they are not getting the real support of the public, as has happened in the many strikes the FBU have been involved in for many years, and they must stop thinking they have support which is just not true. Personally I believe they have a strong case on pensions it is wrong to expect old guys to be able to do what young guys can do, which can put other lives in danger when an old guy gets into trouble in a fire because they are knackered due to age and a young guy has to go back in to rescue the old guy. Also what must be considered is it is just not good value for money for the public if you pay the top salary to old guys who are no longer able to do their job after 30 years, which is just not fair on either side tax payers and customers. However looking at how the government have almost totally destroyed The Police in many ways, conditions, pay, pensions and morale by daily criticism with little support from government. I believe the same will happen to the Fire Service, which is wrong on both accounts. If you expect police and fireman to risk their lives on our behalf they MUST be treated as special cases, and retiring at a sensible age is a must. alarminstaller
  • Score: 2

11:13pm Thu 31 Jul 14

iknowbetter says...

alarminstaller wrote:
Ultimately they should all do their sums then put their heads together.

The firefighters are quids down and loss of pay for strike days will be very hard to make good.

They must also realise that in reality they are not getting the real support of the public, as has happened in the many strikes the FBU have been involved in for many years, and they must stop thinking they have support which is just not true.

Personally I believe they have a strong case on pensions it is wrong to expect old guys to be able to do what young guys can do, which can put other lives in danger when an old guy gets into trouble in a fire because they are knackered due to age and a young guy has to go back in to rescue the old guy.

Also what must be considered is it is just not good value for money for the public if you pay the top salary to old guys who are no longer able to do their job after 30 years, which is just not fair on either side tax payers and customers.

However looking at how the government have almost totally destroyed The Police in many ways, conditions, pay, pensions and morale by daily criticism with little support from government.
I believe the same will happen to the Fire Service, which is wrong on both accounts.

If you expect police and fireman to risk their lives on our behalf they MUST be treated as special cases, and retiring at a sensible age is a must.
You should also realise that its not just old "Guys" there are many Females in the service now, what we can expect in years to come are grannies and Grandads turning up if you ever have to call upon their services.

The recent pay rise for MP's just goes to show that its one rule for one and another rule for them, they use the excuse of hefty pay for MP's as we have to attract the best people for the job, so what about nurses, Police and firefighters?
[quote][p][bold]alarminstaller[/bold] wrote: Ultimately they should all do their sums then put their heads together. The firefighters are quids down and loss of pay for strike days will be very hard to make good. They must also realise that in reality they are not getting the real support of the public, as has happened in the many strikes the FBU have been involved in for many years, and they must stop thinking they have support which is just not true. Personally I believe they have a strong case on pensions it is wrong to expect old guys to be able to do what young guys can do, which can put other lives in danger when an old guy gets into trouble in a fire because they are knackered due to age and a young guy has to go back in to rescue the old guy. Also what must be considered is it is just not good value for money for the public if you pay the top salary to old guys who are no longer able to do their job after 30 years, which is just not fair on either side tax payers and customers. However looking at how the government have almost totally destroyed The Police in many ways, conditions, pay, pensions and morale by daily criticism with little support from government. I believe the same will happen to the Fire Service, which is wrong on both accounts. If you expect police and fireman to risk their lives on our behalf they MUST be treated as special cases, and retiring at a sensible age is a must.[/p][/quote]You should also realise that its not just old "Guys" there are many Females in the service now, what we can expect in years to come are grannies and Grandads turning up if you ever have to call upon their services. The recent pay rise for MP's just goes to show that its one rule for one and another rule for them, they use the excuse of hefty pay for MP's as we have to attract the best people for the job, so what about nurses, Police and firefighters? iknowbetter
  • Score: 1

7:35am Fri 1 Aug 14

donttellanyone says...

I really don't understand it all I am currently leaving my current job as I am not happy with the pay and pension I would have been sacked if I went on strike. If your not happy with your job find another one.
I really don't understand it all I am currently leaving my current job as I am not happy with the pay and pension I would have been sacked if I went on strike. If your not happy with your job find another one. donttellanyone
  • Score: 11

10:09am Fri 1 Aug 14

cynicalsubber says...

If I ever need firefighters, I don't want somebody my age (mid-50s) turning up - I know I'm not as strong as I was 10 years ago, even thought I work out and keep myself fit. alarminstaller, I have to say, I don't know anyone who blames the firefighters for this - as iknowbetter says, we recognise that if MPs know we can afford hefty pay rises for themselves, they can afford to honour contracts made with the firefighters.
If I ever need firefighters, I don't want somebody my age (mid-50s) turning up - I know I'm not as strong as I was 10 years ago, even thought I work out and keep myself fit. alarminstaller, I have to say, I don't know anyone who blames the firefighters for this - as iknowbetter says, we recognise that if MPs know we can afford hefty pay rises for themselves, they can afford to honour contracts made with the firefighters. cynicalsubber
  • Score: -3

1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 14

iknowbetter says...

donttellanyone wrote:
I really don't understand it all I am currently leaving my current job as I am not happy with the pay and pension I would have been sacked if I went on strike. If your not happy with your job find another one.
This is where you are misguided, it has nothing to do with not liking their jobs, its about the government changing their terms for which their employer and employee agreed to when they signed up. Changing these terms half way through their service is very unfair and understandably they want to fight for their RIGHTS, strike action is the only option, and let me tell most firefighters are not happy about going on strike but what options are there.
[quote][p][bold]donttellanyone[/bold] wrote: I really don't understand it all I am currently leaving my current job as I am not happy with the pay and pension I would have been sacked if I went on strike. If your not happy with your job find another one.[/p][/quote]This is where you are misguided, it has nothing to do with not liking their jobs, its about the government changing their terms for which their employer and employee agreed to when they signed up. Changing these terms half way through their service is very unfair and understandably they want to fight for their RIGHTS, strike action is the only option, and let me tell most firefighters are not happy about going on strike but what options are there. iknowbetter
  • Score: -9

9:44pm Fri 1 Aug 14

sam vines says...

Didn't see the armed forces go on strike when their pensions had been changed 3 times this century so far. But hey they only covered the fire strikes, Foot and Mouth, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the winter floods and mass redundancy this century.
Didn't see the armed forces go on strike when their pensions had been changed 3 times this century so far. But hey they only covered the fire strikes, Foot and Mouth, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the winter floods and mass redundancy this century. sam vines
  • Score: 25

1:55am Tue 5 Aug 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Well let's add the teachers. Good salary, a pension many of us can't imagine or could ever have, despite the graft wpe all put in, and let's guess at the paid holidays. Fire fighters and teachers you really need to read the signs. There are many getting really fed up with you guys not realising when you are well off. But like Scargil leading the miners into Mags trap - he still gets a massive payout, but his union membership.....are all replaced by cheap alternatives.
Well let's add the teachers. Good salary, a pension many of us can't imagine or could ever have, despite the graft wpe all put in, and let's guess at the paid holidays. Fire fighters and teachers you really need to read the signs. There are many getting really fed up with you guys not realising when you are well off. But like Scargil leading the miners into Mags trap - he still gets a massive payout, but his union membership.....are all replaced by cheap alternatives. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 8

2:16am Tue 5 Aug 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Well let's add the teachers. Good salary, a pension many of us can't imagine or could ever have, despite the graft wpe all put in, and let's guess at the paid holidays. Fire fighters and teachers you really need to read the signs. There are many getting really fed up with you guys not realising when you are well off. But like Scargil leading the miners into Mags trap - he still gets a massive payout, but his union membership.....are all replaced by cheap alternatives.
Ps, I work at the Cowdray Centre. We had a fairly impressive fire a few years back. 185 business closed. I list every thing, despite the alarm system being 100% ok. You guys were on site in four minutes of the start of the fire in one unit - it's on cctv - but you failed to turn off the gas supply in time to arrest the spread. When the tenants challenged your failure, your hq would reluctantly only allow individuals to read the internal report at, my notes say nearly £1000 a time, on the understanding no notes were taken, and no copy could be made. So, please explain why your pathetic oil drum fires during recent strikes got virtually no hoots of support.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Well let's add the teachers. Good salary, a pension many of us can't imagine or could ever have, despite the graft wpe all put in, and let's guess at the paid holidays. Fire fighters and teachers you really need to read the signs. There are many getting really fed up with you guys not realising when you are well off. But like Scargil leading the miners into Mags trap - he still gets a massive payout, but his union membership.....are all replaced by cheap alternatives.[/p][/quote]Ps, I work at the Cowdray Centre. We had a fairly impressive fire a few years back. 185 business closed. I list every thing, despite the alarm system being 100% ok. You guys were on site in four minutes of the start of the fire in one unit - it's on cctv - but you failed to turn off the gas supply in time to arrest the spread. When the tenants challenged your failure, your hq would reluctantly only allow individuals to read the internal report at, my notes say nearly £1000 a time, on the understanding no notes were taken, and no copy could be made. So, please explain why your pathetic oil drum fires during recent strikes got virtually no hoots of support. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 4

10:01am Wed 6 Aug 14

johanuk says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Well let's add the teachers. Good salary, a pension many of us can't imagine or could ever have, despite the graft wpe all put in, and let's guess at the paid holidays. Fire fighters and teachers you really need to read the signs. There are many getting really fed up with you guys not realising when you are well off. But like Scargil leading the miners into Mags trap - he still gets a massive payout, but his union membership.....are all replaced by cheap alternatives.
They are IN WORK, well-paid and the pension is very good, i have no sympathy i'm afraid!!!..........i lost my job, my pension is £90 a week!!!!, and what many do not realise is that under a labour government a certain scots chancellor raided pension funds of £117 BILLION !!!!!.......i had no control over this and my pension pot was reduced by £30,000 in one year!!!!!!!! The crazy thing now is the state has to give me benefits!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Well let's add the teachers. Good salary, a pension many of us can't imagine or could ever have, despite the graft wpe all put in, and let's guess at the paid holidays. Fire fighters and teachers you really need to read the signs. There are many getting really fed up with you guys not realising when you are well off. But like Scargil leading the miners into Mags trap - he still gets a massive payout, but his union membership.....are all replaced by cheap alternatives.[/p][/quote]They are IN WORK, well-paid and the pension is very good, i have no sympathy i'm afraid!!!..........i lost my job, my pension is £90 a week!!!!, and what many do not realise is that under a labour government a certain scots chancellor raided pension funds of £117 BILLION !!!!!.......i had no control over this and my pension pot was reduced by £30,000 in one year!!!!!!!! The crazy thing now is the state has to give me benefits!!!!!!! johanuk
  • Score: 0

8:14am Thu 7 Aug 14

TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell says...

Bring out the Green Goddesses I suppose?

The right to strike by the lads is a justified one.

However The System is not going to listen to you.

Every 5 years out you come whinging about this and that, when some of us struggle to put scoff on the table boys.

Think of 'Backdraft' lads get romantic, get out there and do the job.

There aint never going to be a pot of gold, in a labour of love !
Bring out the Green Goddesses I suppose? The right to strike by the lads is a justified one. However The System is not going to listen to you. Every 5 years out you come whinging about this and that, when some of us struggle to put scoff on the table boys. Think of 'Backdraft' lads get romantic, get out there and do the job. There aint never going to be a pot of gold, in a labour of love ! TheBrotherhoodOfTheBell
  • Score: 0

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