No major incidents following this morning's fire fighter strikes

No major incidents following this morning's fire fighter strikes

No major incidents following this morning's fire fighter strikes

First published in News

No major fire-related incidents have taken place yet this morning as crews went on strike.

Members of the Fire Brigades Union went on strike between 6am and 8am this morning and plan to strike again later between 5pm and 7pm.

A fire service spokesman said: "Essex has strong resilience arrangements in place to protect the county and you should continue to dial 999 in an emergency and working Essex firefighters will respond.

"You can help us to help you during periods of reduced fire cover by being Safer, Slower and more Vigilant.

"Businesses, remember to follow up on automatic alarms with a phone call.

"This is a national dispute between the FBU and Government over planned pension changes."

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10:54am Mon 14 Jul 14

Allan Whitehead says...

I find you opening comment “No Major Incidents” somewhat baffling. It is as though you wanted some major catastrophe to have happened. These Fireperson want to protect their conditions of service. Government want to move the goal post in relations to fireperson’s pensions. Firefighters, took on their job of firefighters on agreed terms and conditions. I think that is a contract. Question: Why has the strike been called?
Answer: It is because our Conservative supported by those light blue Liberal Democrats is unilaterally attempting to change firefighter’s terms and conditions of service.
I am of the firm opinion that we all would like to see our firefighter never having to leave their respective fire station in a genuine emergency.
Leave these firefighter employment conditions as they are. Cut government expenditure by reducing MPs salaries by £10 per week permanently, that would save in the region £312,000 per year.
I find you opening comment “No Major Incidents” somewhat baffling. It is as though you wanted some major catastrophe to have happened. These Fireperson want to protect their conditions of service. Government want to move the goal post in relations to fireperson’s pensions. Firefighters, took on their job of firefighters on agreed terms and conditions. I think that is a contract. Question: Why has the strike been called? Answer: It is because our Conservative supported by those light blue Liberal Democrats is unilaterally attempting to change firefighter’s terms and conditions of service. I am of the firm opinion that we all would like to see our firefighter never having to leave their respective fire station in a genuine emergency. Leave these firefighter employment conditions as they are. Cut government expenditure by reducing MPs salaries by £10 per week permanently, that would save in the region £312,000 per year. Allan Whitehead
  • Score: -64

2:06pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Mohammad Akbar says...

Sack them all! There are plenty of people who would like to fill their boots of the money they are payed.
Sack them all! There are plenty of people who would like to fill their boots of the money they are payed. Mohammad Akbar
  • Score: 36

5:06pm Mon 14 Jul 14

/@|_|@\ says...

If they are able to respond under strike conditions then apparently they are overstaffed in the first place.
If they are able to respond under strike conditions then apparently they are overstaffed in the first place. /@|_|@\
  • Score: 25

10:16pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Bunny Kingdom says...

When will the fire brigade realise no one cares ?
When will the fire brigade realise no one cares ? Bunny Kingdom
  • Score: 19

11:47pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Boris says...

Mohammad Akbar wrote:
Sack them all! There are plenty of people who would like to fill their boots of the money they are payed.
Ignorant fool.
[quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: Sack them all! There are plenty of people who would like to fill their boots of the money they are payed.[/p][/quote]Ignorant fool. Boris
  • Score: -18

11:49pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Boris says...

/@|_|@\ wrote:
If they are able to respond under strike conditions then apparently they are overstaffed in the first place.
Ignorant fool.
[quote][p][bold]/@|_|@\[/bold] wrote: If they are able to respond under strike conditions then apparently they are overstaffed in the first place.[/p][/quote]Ignorant fool. Boris
  • Score: -17

11:50pm Mon 14 Jul 14

Boris says...

Bunny Kingdom wrote:
When will the fire brigade realise no one cares ?
Ignorant fool.
[quote][p][bold]Bunny Kingdom[/bold] wrote: When will the fire brigade realise no one cares ?[/p][/quote]Ignorant fool. Boris
  • Score: -19

8:48am Tue 15 Jul 14

Allan Whitehead says...

@ Mohammad Akbar, /@|_|@\ says..., Bunny Kingdom,

I am fully aware of the attitudes that some person has towards people who use strike action as a weapon.
My parents were both hard working from the age of 14 until the age of 60 and 65 respectfully. One was a cook the other a motor mechanic. Both worked for the Local Authority. They worked for various shades of Councils. Who all honoured what had been agreed at National level in terms and conditions of service. Problems were always sorted out at local level with the aid of both sides’ national representatives.

My father started work in the days when you had to touch your forelock if an owner, director, was in view. Hours were long, and shift work was inevitable. The only weapon that a working person had was strike action. Which the workers did not want, unless it was necessary.

The fact has always remained the same. Withdrawing ones Labour hurts the family business in the way (less wages) we all are aware of what that means. So let us be very clear when strike action happens the cause must be serious! Anyone who agrees with unilateral action taken by our government is a
@ Mohammad Akbar, /@|_|@\ says..., Bunny Kingdom, I am fully aware of the attitudes that some person has towards people who use strike action as a weapon. My parents were both hard working from the age of 14 until the age of 60 and 65 respectfully. One was a cook the other a motor mechanic. Both worked for the Local Authority. They worked for various shades of Councils. Who all honoured what had been agreed at National level in terms and conditions of service. Problems were always sorted out at local level with the aid of both sides’ national representatives. My father started work in the days when you had to touch your forelock if an owner, director, was in view. Hours were long, and shift work was inevitable. The only weapon that a working person had was strike action. Which the workers did not want, unless it was necessary. The fact has always remained the same. Withdrawing ones Labour hurts the family business in the way (less wages) we all are aware of what that means. So let us be very clear when strike action happens the cause must be serious! Anyone who agrees with unilateral action taken by our government is a Allan Whitehead
  • Score: -8

8:52am Tue 15 Jul 14

Allan Whitehead says...

@ Mohammad Akbar, /@|_|@\ says..., Bunny Kingdom,
I am fully aware of the attitudes that some person has towards people who use strike action as a weapon.
My parents were both hard working from the age of 14 until the age of 60 and 65 respectfully. One was a cook the other a motor mechanic. Both worked for the Local Authority. They worked for various shades of Councils. Who all honoured what had been agreed at National level in terms and conditions of service. Problems were always sorted out at local level with the aid of both sides’ national representatives.
My father started work in the days when you had to touch your forelock if an owner, director, was in view. Hours were long, and shift work was inevitable. The only weapon that a working person had was strike action. Which the workers did not want, unless it was necessary.
The fact has always remained the same. Withdrawing ones Labour hurts the family business in the way (less wages) we all are aware of what that means. So let us be very clear when strike action happens the cause must be serious! Anyone who agrees with unilateral action taken by our government is a Government supporters or as “Boris” says fools.
@ Mohammad Akbar, /@|_|@\ says..., Bunny Kingdom, I am fully aware of the attitudes that some person has towards people who use strike action as a weapon. My parents were both hard working from the age of 14 until the age of 60 and 65 respectfully. One was a cook the other a motor mechanic. Both worked for the Local Authority. They worked for various shades of Councils. Who all honoured what had been agreed at National level in terms and conditions of service. Problems were always sorted out at local level with the aid of both sides’ national representatives. My father started work in the days when you had to touch your forelock if an owner, director, was in view. Hours were long, and shift work was inevitable. The only weapon that a working person had was strike action. Which the workers did not want, unless it was necessary. The fact has always remained the same. Withdrawing ones Labour hurts the family business in the way (less wages) we all are aware of what that means. So let us be very clear when strike action happens the cause must be serious! Anyone who agrees with unilateral action taken by our government is a Government supporters or as “Boris” says fools. Allan Whitehead
  • Score: -9

10:20am Tue 15 Jul 14

Mohammad Akbar says...

Boris wrote:
Mohammad Akbar wrote: Sack them all! There are plenty of people who would like to fill their boots of the money they are payed.
Ignorant fool.
Quiet please Boris adults are speaking.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mohammad Akbar[/bold] wrote: Sack them all! There are plenty of people who would like to fill their boots of the money they are payed.[/p][/quote]Ignorant fool.[/p][/quote]Quiet please Boris adults are speaking. Mohammad Akbar
  • Score: 11

10:43am Tue 15 Jul 14

keith_l says...

What the FBU and their members, and also Allan and Boris above, don't seem to realise is that things change.

The change that the goverment are imposing in relation to Fire Brigade pensions is a delay to the retirement age from 55 to 60. In 1992 it was increased from 50 to 55.

This is a gradual change, which won't affect anyone already over 45 as at 2012 when it was proposed, and then a sliding scale for those over about 40.

FBU are trying to get the public on side by saying that it is unsafe for a fit and active 60 year old to fight fires, and that this puts the public at risk. Due to the way that the fire brigade's Ts&Cs work, very few firefighters will actully reach that age as there is also a length of service clause.

In recent years, due to a combination of improved healthcare, and most people's wish to continue to be active, life expectancy has increased. Therefore the money that was paid into pension schemes, whether by employers, employees, or both, is now required to last longer. If the retirement age is not deferred, where will the extra money come from to pay the longer pensions?
What the FBU and their members, and also Allan and Boris above, don't seem to realise is that things change. The change that the goverment are imposing in relation to Fire Brigade pensions is a delay to the retirement age from 55 to 60. In 1992 it was increased from 50 to 55. This is a gradual change, which won't affect anyone already over 45 as at 2012 when it was proposed, and then a sliding scale for those over about 40. FBU are trying to get the public on side by saying that it is unsafe for a fit and active 60 year old to fight fires, and that this puts the public at risk. Due to the way that the fire brigade's Ts&Cs work, very few firefighters will actully reach that age as there is also a length of service clause. In recent years, due to a combination of improved healthcare, and most people's wish to continue to be active, life expectancy has increased. Therefore the money that was paid into pension schemes, whether by employers, employees, or both, is now required to last longer. If the retirement age is not deferred, where will the extra money come from to pay the longer pensions? keith_l
  • Score: 6

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