Man, 27, stabbed in town centre

Man, 27, stabbed in town centre

Man, 27, stabbed in town centre

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FOUR people are being quizzed by detectives after a man was stabbed outside a nightclub.

Police were called to an altercation outside Liquid nightclub in High Street, Colchester, around 3.30am today, Friday June 27.

A man, 27, had received a stab wound.

He was taken to Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, where he remains in a serious, but not life threatening condition.

A 24-year-old man from Middlesex was arrested on suspicion of GBH with intent.

A 19-year-old man from Brentwood was arrested on suspicion of affray.

A 23-year-old man from Colchester arrested on suspicion of common assault.

A 37-year-old woman from Colchester was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer.

All remain in police custody and are being questioned by detectives.

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10:38am Fri 27 Jun 14

iwitness says...

They should bring back body searches in pubs and clubs at night - and on the streets. I don't think anywhere does it now. I can remember having to empty pockets and being detected for metal objects before entering.
They should bring back body searches in pubs and clubs at night - and on the streets. I don't think anywhere does it now. I can remember having to empty pockets and being detected for metal objects before entering. iwitness
  • Score: 110

10:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

Pondermatic says...

I can remember when the most you had to worry about was whether you could get in a bar or club with trainers on and a collar-less shirt, not whether you were going to have to 'tool up' to go out. Some people need to have a word with themselves. Respect yourself, and respect others. It's quite simple.
I can remember when the most you had to worry about was whether you could get in a bar or club with trainers on and a collar-less shirt, not whether you were going to have to 'tool up' to go out. Some people need to have a word with themselves. Respect yourself, and respect others. It's quite simple. Pondermatic
  • Score: 112

11:08am Fri 27 Jun 14

iwitness says...

Pondermatic wrote:
I can remember when the most you had to worry about was whether you could get in a bar or club with trainers on and a collar-less shirt, not whether you were going to have to 'tool up' to go out. Some people need to have a word with themselves. Respect yourself, and respect others. It's quite simple.
Ah yes the dress code.

Trainers.....no shirt......your not coming in!
[quote][p][bold]Pondermatic[/bold] wrote: I can remember when the most you had to worry about was whether you could get in a bar or club with trainers on and a collar-less shirt, not whether you were going to have to 'tool up' to go out. Some people need to have a word with themselves. Respect yourself, and respect others. It's quite simple.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the dress code. Trainers.....no shirt......your not coming in! iwitness
  • Score: 24

11:12am Fri 27 Jun 14

Nik3000 says...

Remove them from society, we cannot tolerate these animals living amongst us anymore. It's not fair on the human beings that make life awesome.
Remove them from society, we cannot tolerate these animals living amongst us anymore. It's not fair on the human beings that make life awesome. Nik3000
  • Score: 74

11:14am Fri 27 Jun 14

ddrury says...

The amount of fights on the high street at this time of the morning i'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier. Something needs to be done with this town and the nightlife. Big overhaul! Take licences away, stop the promoting of cheap drinks, don't allow people in who are clearly drunk and get better door staff.
The amount of fights on the high street at this time of the morning i'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier. Something needs to be done with this town and the nightlife. Big overhaul! Take licences away, stop the promoting of cheap drinks, don't allow people in who are clearly drunk and get better door staff. ddrury
  • Score: 68

11:23am Fri 27 Jun 14

rly420 says...

iwitness wrote:
They should bring back body searches in pubs and clubs at night - and on the streets. I don't think anywhere does it now. I can remember having to empty pockets and being detected for metal objects before entering.
I regularly go to Tribal Nightclub and everytime I go in I have my pockets emptied out and my body searched.

I agree that it should be done in ALL clubs in Colchester though!!
[quote][p][bold]iwitness[/bold] wrote: They should bring back body searches in pubs and clubs at night - and on the streets. I don't think anywhere does it now. I can remember having to empty pockets and being detected for metal objects before entering.[/p][/quote]I regularly go to Tribal Nightclub and everytime I go in I have my pockets emptied out and my body searched. I agree that it should be done in ALL clubs in Colchester though!! rly420
  • Score: 60

11:40am Fri 27 Jun 14

m.clarke says...

I dont believe a fight outside any venue at 3.20am can be blamed on the venue or there staff, the finger should be pointed at the coward who took the knife out of his house, who is to say he had even been drinking in the towns venues. These idiots that think it is socially acceptable to carry knives need a big reality check, and harsher laws need to be imposed for those found carrying any weapon.
I dont believe a fight outside any venue at 3.20am can be blamed on the venue or there staff, the finger should be pointed at the coward who took the knife out of his house, who is to say he had even been drinking in the towns venues. These idiots that think it is socially acceptable to carry knives need a big reality check, and harsher laws need to be imposed for those found carrying any weapon. m.clarke
  • Score: 50

11:42am Fri 27 Jun 14

JohnStang says...

I am moving..... sick of reading about things like this....
I am moving..... sick of reading about things like this.... JohnStang
  • Score: 24

11:50am Fri 27 Jun 14

Finns says...

"A 37-year-old woman from Colchester was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer."

Stay classy
"A 37-year-old woman from Colchester was arrested on suspicion of assaulting a police officer." Stay classy Finns
  • Score: 64

11:55am Fri 27 Jun 14

SoundSense says...

I wonder how much of this is due to London councils buying up blocks of new development houses and moving their trouble to Colchester? - just like they did in Clacton!
I wonder how much of this is due to London councils buying up blocks of new development houses and moving their trouble to Colchester? - just like they did in Clacton! SoundSense
  • Score: 102

11:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

paddy16 says...

Simple answer to this is , anyone caught in possession of a knife gets a mandatory 10 year prison sentence without any excuse, If you go out with a weapon your showing intent to use it. No excuse , all the rubbish that they come out with like '' I use it for protection '' is a load of old tosh.
It's about time the laws were updated to counter act the weak scum that think they have a right to carry.
Simple answer to this is , anyone caught in possession of a knife gets a mandatory 10 year prison sentence without any excuse, If you go out with a weapon your showing intent to use it. No excuse , all the rubbish that they come out with like '' I use it for protection '' is a load of old tosh. It's about time the laws were updated to counter act the weak scum that think they have a right to carry. paddy16
  • Score: 90

11:58am Fri 27 Jun 14

catflap1 says...

compulsory body cavity searches for all night club goers ....that will put a stop to it
compulsory body cavity searches for all night club goers ....that will put a stop to it catflap1
  • Score: -10

12:28pm Fri 27 Jun 14

sam vines says...

Well I hope our local MP is still happy with voting against a tougher stance on knife crime.
Well I hope our local MP is still happy with voting against a tougher stance on knife crime. sam vines
  • Score: 59

12:35pm Fri 27 Jun 14

fact says...

Why not invest in X-Ray walk through security gates. Hidden weapons would be found, then the culprit carrying it can be handed directly to the police. This country needs TOUGHER LAWS brought in to punish these people, not just a slap on the wrist and a few weeks behind bars.
Why not invest in X-Ray walk through security gates. Hidden weapons would be found, then the culprit carrying it can be handed directly to the police. This country needs TOUGHER LAWS brought in to punish these people, not just a slap on the wrist and a few weeks behind bars. fact
  • Score: 40

12:41pm Fri 27 Jun 14

graham1983 says...

Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!!
Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!! graham1983
  • Score: 62

12:49pm Fri 27 Jun 14

sam vines says...

I take this will not affect our purple flag status as a nice safe town centre
I take this will not affect our purple flag status as a nice safe town centre sam vines
  • Score: 16

1:27pm Fri 27 Jun 14

julieee says...

purple flag is a status that is paid for. unless the awarders are prepared not to take the cash Colchester should still have a purple flag.
or maybe the council will decide that this is a cost that can be cut.
purple flag is a status that is paid for. unless the awarders are prepared not to take the cash Colchester should still have a purple flag. or maybe the council will decide that this is a cost that can be cut. julieee
  • Score: 9

2:01pm Fri 27 Jun 14

itsawedge says...

For " Colchester " read " Tombstone".
For " Colchester " read " Tombstone". itsawedge
  • Score: 10

2:44pm Fri 27 Jun 14

The-Professionals says...

The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign. The-Professionals
  • Score: 13

3:37pm Fri 27 Jun 14

fact says...

When I first moved to Colchester 27 years ago, I constantly saw Police cars patrolling about. My Husband then explained that most of those were Military Police, but it was enough to make you feel safe walking about. Don't see many about now, I presume down to Army Cuts. The Government need to stop interfering and give the police etc, the cash they need to give us and other forces a decent amount of officers. Essex Police have had to bring in officers from other counties to assist with the 2 murders recently. We need more officers now.Increase the Police forces, Increase their wages and increase jail times.
When I first moved to Colchester 27 years ago, I constantly saw Police cars patrolling about. My Husband then explained that most of those were Military Police, but it was enough to make you feel safe walking about. Don't see many about now, I presume down to Army Cuts. The Government need to stop interfering and give the police etc, the cash they need to give us and other forces a decent amount of officers. Essex Police have had to bring in officers from other counties to assist with the 2 murders recently. We need more officers now.Increase the Police forces, Increase their wages and increase jail times. fact
  • Score: 31

4:16pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Markbed82 says...

ddrury wrote:
The amount of fights on the high street at this time of the morning i'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier. Something needs to be done with this town and the nightlife. Big overhaul! Take licences away, stop the promoting of cheap drinks, don't allow people in who are clearly drunk and get better door staff.
I think if it was simply a issue with cheap drinks then this would have been reported as happening outside missoula rather than liquid. What happens when you stop cheap drinks? people simply get drunk before they go out and end up getting silly drunk when they are in town. I also seem to manage going out, getting drunk and not feeling the urge to have a fight. The problem is with the person who clearly hasn't be raised correctly if they feel it's ok/acceptable to carry a knife on them.
[quote][p][bold]ddrury[/bold] wrote: The amount of fights on the high street at this time of the morning i'm surprised this hasn't happened earlier. Something needs to be done with this town and the nightlife. Big overhaul! Take licences away, stop the promoting of cheap drinks, don't allow people in who are clearly drunk and get better door staff.[/p][/quote]I think if it was simply a issue with cheap drinks then this would have been reported as happening outside missoula rather than liquid. What happens when you stop cheap drinks? people simply get drunk before they go out and end up getting silly drunk when they are in town. I also seem to manage going out, getting drunk and not feeling the urge to have a fight. The problem is with the person who clearly hasn't be raised correctly if they feel it's ok/acceptable to carry a knife on them. Markbed82
  • Score: 15

4:18pm Fri 27 Jun 14

coldplayer says...

fact wrote:
When I first moved to Colchester 27 years ago, I constantly saw Police cars patrolling about. My Husband then explained that most of those were Military Police, but it was enough to make you feel safe walking about. Don't see many about now, I presume down to Army Cuts. The Government need to stop interfering and give the police etc, the cash they need to give us and other forces a decent amount of officers. Essex Police have had to bring in officers from other counties to assist with the 2 murders recently. We need more officers now.Increase the Police forces, Increase their wages and increase jail times.
Drive out to Wivenhoe.....you will see plenty of police cars. There must be some areas around Essex that currently have no police presence at all, they are all on Clingoe Hill at the moment
[quote][p][bold]fact[/bold] wrote: When I first moved to Colchester 27 years ago, I constantly saw Police cars patrolling about. My Husband then explained that most of those were Military Police, but it was enough to make you feel safe walking about. Don't see many about now, I presume down to Army Cuts. The Government need to stop interfering and give the police etc, the cash they need to give us and other forces a decent amount of officers. Essex Police have had to bring in officers from other counties to assist with the 2 murders recently. We need more officers now.Increase the Police forces, Increase their wages and increase jail times.[/p][/quote]Drive out to Wivenhoe.....you will see plenty of police cars. There must be some areas around Essex that currently have no police presence at all, they are all on Clingoe Hill at the moment coldplayer
  • Score: 5

4:43pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Smouldering Ewok says...

graham1983 wrote:
Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!!
100% agree with this.
The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots.
It is time for change!
[quote][p][bold]graham1983[/bold] wrote: Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!![/p][/quote]100% agree with this. The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots. It is time for change! Smouldering Ewok
  • Score: 20

5:19pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Smouldering Ewok wrote:
graham1983 wrote:
Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!!
100% agree with this.
The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots.
It is time for change!
Yes S.E. I agree, and I think all in Colchester do, but for one mp and the news desks in the county standard and the Gazette. To clarify, last week Russel slapped us all in the face by not having the strength of charactor to stand up as our mp and support Jay's mums anti knife campaign, and all who are worried sick for our loved ones and young people. Instead of voting to raise the deterrent strength of the law he cow tail to his party and vote against the bill.
[quote][p][bold]Smouldering Ewok[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham1983[/bold] wrote: Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!![/p][/quote]100% agree with this. The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots. It is time for change![/p][/quote]Yes S.E. I agree, and I think all in Colchester do, but for one mp and the news desks in the county standard and the Gazette. To clarify, last week Russel slapped us all in the face by not having the strength of charactor to stand up as our mp and support Jay's mums anti knife campaign, and all who are worried sick for our loved ones and young people. Instead of voting to raise the deterrent strength of the law he cow tail to his party and vote against the bill. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 56

5:19pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Nik3000 says...

paddy16 wrote:
Simple answer to this is , anyone caught in possession of a knife gets a mandatory 10 year prison sentence without any excuse, If you go out with a weapon your showing intent to use it. No excuse , all the rubbish that they come out with like '' I use it for protection '' is a load of old tosh.
It's about time the laws were updated to counter act the weak scum that think they have a right to carry.
This x1000. Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding.
[quote][p][bold]paddy16[/bold] wrote: Simple answer to this is , anyone caught in possession of a knife gets a mandatory 10 year prison sentence without any excuse, If you go out with a weapon your showing intent to use it. No excuse , all the rubbish that they come out with like '' I use it for protection '' is a load of old tosh. It's about time the laws were updated to counter act the weak scum that think they have a right to carry.[/p][/quote]This x1000. Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding. Nik3000
  • Score: 8

5:37pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Smouldering Ewok wrote:
graham1983 wrote:
Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!!
100% agree with this.
The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots.
It is time for change!
Yes S.E. I agree, and I think all in Colchester do, but for one mp and the news desks in the county standard and the Gazette. To clarify, last week Russel slapped us all in the face by not having the strength of charactor to stand up as our mp and support Jay's mums anti knife campaign, and all who are worried sick for our loved ones and young people. Instead of voting to raise the deterrent strength of the law he cow tail to his party and vote against the bill.
I was going on to say - he cow tailed to his party yet again. If Redman had been caught early in his criminal career with knifes, and if he had been frightened by a harsh sentence, he might just have not been in the habit of carrying a knife, and Jay's mum might just still have her son.

The lib dem's voted against the bill so that judges could have the final say in case someone forgot to take their work Stanley knife out of their pocket, and we're caught with it later. We all need retraining - it's like seat belts and drink drive - you just have to comply. I would rather innocents went to gaol and had the opportunity to appeal than the innocent Jay's be cut down. Even the lib dem's can't bring back the dead.
Where is Russel and his power crazed publicity machine? He's gone very quite, too ashamed to face us. And then there is the editorial staff and news desk of out local rags - really very strange that there was real mention of Russel's cowardice last week. Could it be king Bob gets special treatment and protection?

Yes S.E. I agree we need change - starting with a new mp for this town. I don't care about the politics as long as our new mp has balls.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Smouldering Ewok[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham1983[/bold] wrote: Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!![/p][/quote]100% agree with this. The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots. It is time for change![/p][/quote]Yes S.E. I agree, and I think all in Colchester do, but for one mp and the news desks in the county standard and the Gazette. To clarify, last week Russel slapped us all in the face by not having the strength of charactor to stand up as our mp and support Jay's mums anti knife campaign, and all who are worried sick for our loved ones and young people. Instead of voting to raise the deterrent strength of the law he cow tail to his party and vote against the bill.[/p][/quote]I was going on to say - he cow tailed to his party yet again. If Redman had been caught early in his criminal career with knifes, and if he had been frightened by a harsh sentence, he might just have not been in the habit of carrying a knife, and Jay's mum might just still have her son. The lib dem's voted against the bill so that judges could have the final say in case someone forgot to take their work Stanley knife out of their pocket, and we're caught with it later. We all need retraining - it's like seat belts and drink drive - you just have to comply. I would rather innocents went to gaol and had the opportunity to appeal than the innocent Jay's be cut down. Even the lib dem's can't bring back the dead. Where is Russel and his power crazed publicity machine? He's gone very quite, too ashamed to face us. And then there is the editorial staff and news desk of out local rags - really very strange that there was real mention of Russel's cowardice last week. Could it be king Bob gets special treatment and protection? Yes S.E. I agree we need change - starting with a new mp for this town. I don't care about the politics as long as our new mp has balls. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 38

6:07pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Subimp2011 says...

catflap1 wrote:
compulsory body cavity searches for all night club goers ....that will put a stop to it
That is bang out of order for the majority of peaceful club goers and logistically not viable
[quote][p][bold]catflap1[/bold] wrote: compulsory body cavity searches for all night club goers ....that will put a stop to it[/p][/quote]That is bang out of order for the majority of peaceful club goers and logistically not viable Subimp2011
  • Score: -8

7:33pm Fri 27 Jun 14

A Very Primate Gentleman says...

The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
[quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice. A Very Primate Gentleman
  • Score: 6

8:40pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

A Very Primate Gentleman wrote:
The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum
[quote][p][bold]A Very Primate Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.[/p][/quote]Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 25

8:46pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Primate Gentleman wrote:
The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum
Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Primate Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.[/p][/quote]Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum[/p][/quote]Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 22

10:28am Sat 28 Jun 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Primate Gentleman wrote:
The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum
Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.
Dear Angry Of Lexden,
You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun
d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on):
It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this.
Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's.
In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control.
The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ.
In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers.
A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area.
I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale.
Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further.
I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more).
AVPG:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Primate Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.[/p][/quote]Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum[/p][/quote]Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.[/p][/quote]Dear Angry Of Lexden, You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on): It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this. Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's. In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control. The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ. In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers. A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area. I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale. Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further. I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more). AVPG: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -2

1:41pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Primate Gentleman wrote:
The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum
Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.
Dear Angry Of Lexden,
You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun

d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on):
It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this.
Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's.
In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control.
The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ.
In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers.
A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area.
I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale.
Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further.
I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more).
AVPG:
Private Gentleman, please accept my honest apology for the confusion of using initials. Whilst I understand and agree with elements of your support of the constabulary, it is my personal experience and belief, that light touch consensual policing has confused young people in their formative years - hence the cycling example. This, particularly for the growing numbers of children who have no effective parental guidance on acceptable behaviour.

There is a way we can reinforce respect and good behaviour without reintroducing N.S. - to my mind it's fairly straight forward, just enforce all the laws of the land as per when I was a kid. It was easy for my generation, if you broke the rules you definitely got whacked. I don't defend Redman - my own son was at that party as an invited guest and has suffered since - but had Redman grown up in a regime where the laws were vigorously enforced, complete with consequential punishment, it is my personal opinion that Redman might not have gone armed to kill. Incidentally my son was pressured by the police to appear as a witness, he is now terrified of meeting the brother or other mates of Redman. I believe, that in an indirect way, my son is a victim of soft touch policing. Oh, and two weeks after suffering the terror of being at the party where poor Jay bled to death, my son and his friends were robbed in daylight at gun point taking a short cut back from college across the Hilly Fields. My son lost interest and motivation in education as a result. By the way private gent, I've been trying to find the Russel just to ask why he voted against the bill last week. He's not in jumbo, and neither of his personal publicity machines - the County Standard and Gazette have mentioned king Bob. Any ideas where he might be hiding?
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Primate Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.[/p][/quote]Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum[/p][/quote]Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.[/p][/quote]Dear Angry Of Lexden, You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on): It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this. Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's. In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control. The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ. In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers. A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area. I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale. Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further. I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more). AVPG:[/p][/quote]Private Gentleman, please accept my honest apology for the confusion of using initials. Whilst I understand and agree with elements of your support of the constabulary, it is my personal experience and belief, that light touch consensual policing has confused young people in their formative years - hence the cycling example. This, particularly for the growing numbers of children who have no effective parental guidance on acceptable behaviour. There is a way we can reinforce respect and good behaviour without reintroducing N.S. - to my mind it's fairly straight forward, just enforce all the laws of the land as per when I was a kid. It was easy for my generation, if you broke the rules you definitely got whacked. I don't defend Redman - my own son was at that party as an invited guest and has suffered since - but had Redman grown up in a regime where the laws were vigorously enforced, complete with consequential punishment, it is my personal opinion that Redman might not have gone armed to kill. Incidentally my son was pressured by the police to appear as a witness, he is now terrified of meeting the brother or other mates of Redman. I believe, that in an indirect way, my son is a victim of soft touch policing. Oh, and two weeks after suffering the terror of being at the party where poor Jay bled to death, my son and his friends were robbed in daylight at gun point taking a short cut back from college across the Hilly Fields. My son lost interest and motivation in education as a result. By the way private gent, I've been trying to find the Russel just to ask why he voted against the bill last week. He's not in jumbo, and neither of his personal publicity machines - the County Standard and Gazette have mentioned king Bob. Any ideas where he might be hiding? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 20

1:59pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Shrubendlad says...

WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.
WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 16

2:09pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Shrubendlad says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.
Why does Wendy Brading flood the local press with articles and photos re Russell when elections are near but when Colchester is terrified by knife crime there is NOTHING!!??
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.[/p][/quote]Why does Wendy Brading flood the local press with articles and photos re Russell when elections are near but when Colchester is terrified by knife crime there is NOTHING!!?? Shrubendlad
  • Score: 19

3:50pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Subimp2011 wrote:
catflap1 wrote:
compulsory body cavity searches for all night club goers ....that will put a stop to it
That is bang out of order for the majority of peaceful club goers and logistically not viable
They don't like it up e'm
[quote][p][bold]Subimp2011[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]catflap1[/bold] wrote: compulsory body cavity searches for all night club goers ....that will put a stop to it[/p][/quote]That is bang out of order for the majority of peaceful club goers and logistically not viable[/p][/quote]They don't like it up e'm Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 1

5:49pm Sat 28 Jun 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Primate Gentleman wrote:
The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum
Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.
Dear Angry Of Lexden,
You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun


d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on):
It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this.
Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's.
In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control.
The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ.
In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers.
A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area.
I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale.
Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further.
I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more).
AVPG:
Private Gentleman, please accept my honest apology for the confusion of using initials. Whilst I understand and agree with elements of your support of the constabulary, it is my personal experience and belief, that light touch consensual policing has confused young people in their formative years - hence the cycling example. This, particularly for the growing numbers of children who have no effective parental guidance on acceptable behaviour.

There is a way we can reinforce respect and good behaviour without reintroducing N.S. - to my mind it's fairly straight forward, just enforce all the laws of the land as per when I was a kid. It was easy for my generation, if you broke the rules you definitely got whacked. I don't defend Redman - my own son was at that party as an invited guest and has suffered since - but had Redman grown up in a regime where the laws were vigorously enforced, complete with consequential punishment, it is my personal opinion that Redman might not have gone armed to kill. Incidentally my son was pressured by the police to appear as a witness, he is now terrified of meeting the brother or other mates of Redman. I believe, that in an indirect way, my son is a victim of soft touch policing. Oh, and two weeks after suffering the terror of being at the party where poor Jay bled to death, my son and his friends were robbed in daylight at gun point taking a short cut back from college across the Hilly Fields. My son lost interest and motivation in education as a result. By the way private gent, I've been trying to find the Russel just to ask why he voted against the bill last week. He's not in jumbo, and neither of his personal publicity machines - the County Standard and Gazette have mentioned king Bob. Any ideas where he might be hiding?
Dear Mr Angry of Lexden,
My sentiments with yourself on the last post you placed and I can understand and agree wholeheartedly with your statement and remarks.
The Redman issue is one that has stirred many a thought among us all in very many ways.
I am sorry for your children's fears and concern, this is very upsetting to me.
As for B.R. he is normally at the hall in Wimpole Road of which my relatives are shareholders to that building, you might wish to ask him to interject properly and professionally with your concerns, as what one would expect with members and constituents of the Colchester public.
I am also a party member "Unfortunately it is a habit" he maybe immune to his critics, but should he continue to do so, it will catch up as they say.
I have no say in the party at Colchester Central, but we do need to change our tac, after the terrible results nationwide, not minding the majority vote here in Colchester.
Sincerely and with my thoughts on this current holy weekend of obligation.+
AVPG:
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Primate Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.[/p][/quote]Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum[/p][/quote]Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.[/p][/quote]Dear Angry Of Lexden, You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on): It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this. Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's. In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control. The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ. In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers. A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area. I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale. Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further. I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more). AVPG:[/p][/quote]Private Gentleman, please accept my honest apology for the confusion of using initials. Whilst I understand and agree with elements of your support of the constabulary, it is my personal experience and belief, that light touch consensual policing has confused young people in their formative years - hence the cycling example. This, particularly for the growing numbers of children who have no effective parental guidance on acceptable behaviour. There is a way we can reinforce respect and good behaviour without reintroducing N.S. - to my mind it's fairly straight forward, just enforce all the laws of the land as per when I was a kid. It was easy for my generation, if you broke the rules you definitely got whacked. I don't defend Redman - my own son was at that party as an invited guest and has suffered since - but had Redman grown up in a regime where the laws were vigorously enforced, complete with consequential punishment, it is my personal opinion that Redman might not have gone armed to kill. Incidentally my son was pressured by the police to appear as a witness, he is now terrified of meeting the brother or other mates of Redman. I believe, that in an indirect way, my son is a victim of soft touch policing. Oh, and two weeks after suffering the terror of being at the party where poor Jay bled to death, my son and his friends were robbed in daylight at gun point taking a short cut back from college across the Hilly Fields. My son lost interest and motivation in education as a result. By the way private gent, I've been trying to find the Russel just to ask why he voted against the bill last week. He's not in jumbo, and neither of his personal publicity machines - the County Standard and Gazette have mentioned king Bob. Any ideas where he might be hiding?[/p][/quote]Dear Mr Angry of Lexden, My sentiments with yourself on the last post you placed and I can understand and agree wholeheartedly with your statement and remarks. The Redman issue is one that has stirred many a thought among us all in very many ways. I am sorry for your children's fears and concern, this is very upsetting to me. As for B.R. he is normally at the hall in Wimpole Road of which my relatives are shareholders to that building, you might wish to ask him to interject properly and professionally with your concerns, as what one would expect with members and constituents of the Colchester public. I am also a party member "Unfortunately it is a habit" he maybe immune to his critics, but should he continue to do so, it will catch up as they say. I have no say in the party at Colchester Central, but we do need to change our tac, after the terrible results nationwide, not minding the majority vote here in Colchester. Sincerely and with my thoughts on this current holy weekend of obligation.+ AVPG: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 4

10:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
A Very Primate Gentleman wrote:
The-Professionals wrote:
The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all.
There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after.
You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep.
PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.
Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.
Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum
Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.
Dear Angry Of Lexden,
You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun



d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on):
It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this.
Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's.
In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control.
The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ.
In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers.
A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area.
I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale.
Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further.
I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more).
AVPG:
Private Gentleman, please accept my honest apology for the confusion of using initials. Whilst I understand and agree with elements of your support of the constabulary, it is my personal experience and belief, that light touch consensual policing has confused young people in their formative years - hence the cycling example. This, particularly for the growing numbers of children who have no effective parental guidance on acceptable behaviour.

There is a way we can reinforce respect and good behaviour without reintroducing N.S. - to my mind it's fairly straight forward, just enforce all the laws of the land as per when I was a kid. It was easy for my generation, if you broke the rules you definitely got whacked. I don't defend Redman - my own son was at that party as an invited guest and has suffered since - but had Redman grown up in a regime where the laws were vigorously enforced, complete with consequential punishment, it is my personal opinion that Redman might not have gone armed to kill. Incidentally my son was pressured by the police to appear as a witness, he is now terrified of meeting the brother or other mates of Redman. I believe, that in an indirect way, my son is a victim of soft touch policing. Oh, and two weeks after suffering the terror of being at the party where poor Jay bled to death, my son and his friends were robbed in daylight at gun point taking a short cut back from college across the Hilly Fields. My son lost interest and motivation in education as a result. By the way private gent, I've been trying to find the Russel just to ask why he voted against the bill last week. He's not in jumbo, and neither of his personal publicity machines - the County Standard and Gazette have mentioned king Bob. Any ideas where he might be hiding?
Dear Mr Angry of Lexden,
My sentiments with yourself on the last post you placed and I can understand and agree wholeheartedly with your statement and remarks.
The Redman issue is one that has stirred many a thought among us all in very many ways.
I am sorry for your children's fears and concern, this is very upsetting to me.
As for B.R. he is normally at the hall in Wimpole Road of which my relatives are shareholders to that building, you might wish to ask him to interject properly and professionally with your concerns, as what one would expect with members and constituents of the Colchester public.
I am also a party member "Unfortunately it is a habit" he maybe immune to his critics, but should he continue to do so, it will catch up as they say.
I have no say in the party at Colchester Central, but we do need to change our tac, after the terrible results nationwide, not minding the majority vote here in Colchester.
Sincerely and with my thoughts on this current holy weekend of obligation.+
AVPG:
Private gent. If you are genuine, what you have logged takes some honesty and risk, and I really appreciate it. But.. since the Redman case I don't trust anyone - remember the police put my son up as a witness. They originally promised us a unique phone number any if my seven kids could call for immediate support if they met up with a Redman or his mates. After my son stood in the witness box, identifief to the Redmonds, and made his statement, the police denied such an offer. You lib dem's also need to justify supporting a soft approach to knife crime in the face of Redman's girlfriend being released having served just a quarter of her sentence for helping Redman destroy evidence that would have led to an earlier and safe conviction. I served in public office with a lovely mathematician in the town - a convicted lib dem. He had me convinced up to the incident when a colleague needed help. I write to BR, who immediately wrote back on the usual headed paper to say he would discuss the matter with the then chief executive of CBC. After some protracted time BR wrote back saying the C.E. explained that all was in order and there was nothing more he could do. I then challenged the next CBC audit. The auditor supported the claim monies had been wasted. The CE went on sick leave then took retirement and the situation was put right but.. whitewashed. So how do you think I would trust BR? You guys may need to break tradition and be seen to make a decision and dump the biggest liability the lib dem's in Colchester have. This may seem disingenuous in the light of your mail but I've had enough of BR's lack luster performance - being first in the que for the Queens Speech, or dressing like a budgie on heat no longer impresses.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Primate Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Professionals[/bold] wrote: The Jay Wiston campaign is clearly not sinking in the grey matter at all. There was a time in this borough where "Outsiders" would not even dream of coming here and starting that kind of sh*t. The last time I heard of something of that sort was when Mark Deacon of The Lamb in the high street was stabbed by the Ipswich boys, when Mark went to help out a lad that the Ipswich gang was after. Mark ended up in hospital for months. The Ipswich lads got the message from us in Colchester after. You are right above its not the clubs fault, at the end of the day its our own fault all of us, we need to protect our own doorstep. PS in the windmill days of the late 70's it was also no jeans, along with collar and tie. Come on Essex Police, its got to be a clean up Colchester. You can call it the C.U.C. Campaign.[/p][/quote]Ah yes the good old days when you and your gang of uneducated unregulated meatheads were free to deliver beatings to inebriated folk who stepped out of line or dared to get on the wrong side of your ego trip. The last thing this town needs is a bunch of middle aged wannabe hard men dealing out what they call justice.[/p][/quote]Avpg, I agree, we must use the law to change the sad state we have reached. And I believe that should include enforcing it properly. Problem I see is the young people are a bit confused. They know they should not ride bikes on the footpath, but they see adults do it in front of passing police officers - and the police do nothing. Likewise at night police cars drive past cyclists without lights. Confusion for young people - which laws should we really obey? Carrying knives is wrong, but people get away with it. So Redman and his mates got into the habit of carrying knives with the inevitable awful result. Last week our mp had the responsibility to represent the people of Colchester on a vote to raise the deterrent value of knife crime law. To his eternal disgrace he voted against the bill - a slap in the face fit Jay's mum[/p][/quote]Sorry - meant to say - he voted against the bill - a slap in the face for Jay's mum and the rest of us who have had enough of knife murder. Thing is, there's been no sign of him since. Not even in his personal propaganda machines the Gazette and the County Standard.[/p][/quote]Dear Angry Of Lexden, You commented on someone called AVPG using similar initials as me, unfortunately there is no accounting for the real thing. In my title is the word “Private”, Justice79 AKA UndergroundOvergroun d uses the word "Primate" In the third, of their useless and counterfeit online account names. This is to insult me personally and continually vilify my posts, in a cowardly and hidden esoteric manner. (Please carry on): It has been 40 years this year since the unsolved murder of housewife Mrs Kay O Connor of Wickam Road. Local people born and bred like myself will know of this. Crime in the Borough has been slowly increasing since the very poor recruiting policies of local officials in various guises, since the mid 80's. In the 90's Colchester was described by some in the Police, as becoming a "Hot Potato" out of control. The hiatus or culmination of recent events, has now presented itself in the community with the current devastating scenario we have in situ. In my view this has nothing to do with teenagers riding bikes on the pavement, or doing so cycling in front of Police officers. A succession of Divisional Commanders have come to the borough and attempted to do a good job in crime management of the area. I don't think there has been one occasion in the last 25 years, where there has not been adverse press reports in the local media about incidents at the local Police division. Obviously this goes hand in hand with “The Job” per se’. A succession of government administrations has meddled with Police funding and changes within the law. If you couple this with the increase in the type and style of quality of life in general, it has culminated into the alchemic poisoned cocktail we have in our society today, of delinquent and miscreant behavior coupled with violent crime and drug abuse on an ever increasing scale. Coming from backgrounds of Scouting, Forces Cadet & TAVR service, is no longer accepted as a “Norm” of social behaviour, as it was back in the heady days of the 60’s & 70’s. In my view there was a breakdown in respect to those that served in these after school activities in the late 70’s & early 80’s. Apart from the reintroduction of enforced National Service, I cannot see a quick fix to this situation. I appreciate this is NOT a vote winner or a popular suggestion. I could go on to elaborate further. I do apologize for the long tome’ (Less is clearly more). AVPG:[/p][/quote]Private Gentleman, please accept my honest apology for the confusion of using initials. Whilst I understand and agree with elements of your support of the constabulary, it is my personal experience and belief, that light touch consensual policing has confused young people in their formative years - hence the cycling example. This, particularly for the growing numbers of children who have no effective parental guidance on acceptable behaviour. There is a way we can reinforce respect and good behaviour without reintroducing N.S. - to my mind it's fairly straight forward, just enforce all the laws of the land as per when I was a kid. It was easy for my generation, if you broke the rules you definitely got whacked. I don't defend Redman - my own son was at that party as an invited guest and has suffered since - but had Redman grown up in a regime where the laws were vigorously enforced, complete with consequential punishment, it is my personal opinion that Redman might not have gone armed to kill. Incidentally my son was pressured by the police to appear as a witness, he is now terrified of meeting the brother or other mates of Redman. I believe, that in an indirect way, my son is a victim of soft touch policing. Oh, and two weeks after suffering the terror of being at the party where poor Jay bled to death, my son and his friends were robbed in daylight at gun point taking a short cut back from college across the Hilly Fields. My son lost interest and motivation in education as a result. By the way private gent, I've been trying to find the Russel just to ask why he voted against the bill last week. He's not in jumbo, and neither of his personal publicity machines - the County Standard and Gazette have mentioned king Bob. Any ideas where he might be hiding?[/p][/quote]Dear Mr Angry of Lexden, My sentiments with yourself on the last post you placed and I can understand and agree wholeheartedly with your statement and remarks. The Redman issue is one that has stirred many a thought among us all in very many ways. I am sorry for your children's fears and concern, this is very upsetting to me. As for B.R. he is normally at the hall in Wimpole Road of which my relatives are shareholders to that building, you might wish to ask him to interject properly and professionally with your concerns, as what one would expect with members and constituents of the Colchester public. I am also a party member "Unfortunately it is a habit" he maybe immune to his critics, but should he continue to do so, it will catch up as they say. I have no say in the party at Colchester Central, but we do need to change our tac, after the terrible results nationwide, not minding the majority vote here in Colchester. Sincerely and with my thoughts on this current holy weekend of obligation.+ AVPG:[/p][/quote]Private gent. If you are genuine, what you have logged takes some honesty and risk, and I really appreciate it. But.. since the Redman case I don't trust anyone - remember the police put my son up as a witness. They originally promised us a unique phone number any if my seven kids could call for immediate support if they met up with a Redman or his mates. After my son stood in the witness box, identifief to the Redmonds, and made his statement, the police denied such an offer. You lib dem's also need to justify supporting a soft approach to knife crime in the face of Redman's girlfriend being released having served just a quarter of her sentence for helping Redman destroy evidence that would have led to an earlier and safe conviction. I served in public office with a lovely mathematician in the town - a convicted lib dem. He had me convinced up to the incident when a colleague needed help. I write to BR, who immediately wrote back on the usual headed paper to say he would discuss the matter with the then chief executive of CBC. After some protracted time BR wrote back saying the C.E. explained that all was in order and there was nothing more he could do. I then challenged the next CBC audit. The auditor supported the claim monies had been wasted. The CE went on sick leave then took retirement and the situation was put right but.. whitewashed. So how do you think I would trust BR? You guys may need to break tradition and be seen to make a decision and dump the biggest liability the lib dem's in Colchester have. This may seem disingenuous in the light of your mail but I've had enough of BR's lack luster performance - being first in the que for the Queens Speech, or dressing like a budgie on heat no longer impresses. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 20

6:02am Sun 29 Jun 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Angry Of Lexden: I am not one of the norm in the party, and as you know there is a schism going on in the ranks at the moment and Colchester is no exception.
It is difficult to purvey my beliefs and intentions to you as there are so many cranks who use this site.
I can help you in some areas if we can find a way or method of contact, to identify each other without being compromised.
Two of the scenarios you describe above, I have been in the same situation myself and I can assure you there is no witness protection or magical phone number scheme operated by any agencies, in such a fashion that has been offered or alleged to you.
The other thing you mentioned is quite interesting and I can interject or elaborate on similar incidences.
I know in some of my previous posts I have been somewhat overly robust and blunt. I can only put it down to a 'Heart On Sleeve' ideal.
My opinions may not gel with many, it is a question of reading between the lines and my penchant for fine wine.
This is no longer a perfect world for me, or all of us be it that matter.
I like to think I can help out anyone, if the need calls.
There is no reason for any disconcertion, in your situation involving your family, your children will grow big and strong and will be supported by everyone in the community they will also be able to support you.
The Redman issue will be a nondescript situation, when they both come out.
avpg2014@gmail.com.
AVPG:
Angry Of Lexden: I am not one of the norm in the party, and as you know there is a schism going on in the ranks at the moment and Colchester is no exception. It is difficult to purvey my beliefs and intentions to you as there are so many cranks who use this site. I can help you in some areas if we can find a way or method of contact, to identify each other without being compromised. Two of the scenarios you describe above, I have been in the same situation myself and I can assure you there is no witness protection or magical phone number scheme operated by any agencies, in such a fashion that has been offered or alleged to you. The other thing you mentioned is quite interesting and I can interject or elaborate on similar incidences. I know in some of my previous posts I have been somewhat overly robust and blunt. I can only put it down to a 'Heart On Sleeve' ideal. My opinions may not gel with many, it is a question of reading between the lines and my penchant for fine wine. This is no longer a perfect world for me, or all of us be it that matter. I like to think I can help out anyone, if the need calls. There is no reason for any disconcertion, in your situation involving your family, your children will grow big and strong and will be supported by everyone in the community they will also be able to support you. The Redman issue will be a nondescript situation, when they both come out. avpg2014@gmail.com. AVPG: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 1

6:15am Sun 29 Jun 14

Shrubendlad says...

There is a general concensus that the town needs strong leadership now rather than the traditional inter party games.
Lib Dems are decent caring people led by a self centred half wit.
Change the Clown and pull the town back from the brink.
There is a general concensus that the town needs strong leadership now rather than the traditional inter party games. Lib Dems are decent caring people led by a self centred half wit. Change the Clown and pull the town back from the brink. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 16

2:04pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Shrubendlad wrote:
Shrubendlad wrote:
WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.
Why does Wendy Brading flood the local press with articles and photos re Russell when elections are near but when Colchester is terrified by knife crime there is NOTHING!!??
Sorry, who is Wendy Brading?
[quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.[/p][/quote]Why does Wendy Brading flood the local press with articles and photos re Russell when elections are near but when Colchester is terrified by knife crime there is NOTHING!!??[/p][/quote]Sorry, who is Wendy Brading? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 1

3:40pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Shrubendlad says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Shrubendlad wrote:
Shrubendlad wrote:
WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.
Why does Wendy Brading flood the local press with articles and photos re Russell when elections are near but when Colchester is terrified by knife crime there is NOTHING!!??
Sorry, who is Wendy Brading?
Wendy Brading -Bless her- is a specialist newswriter/news editor who works for Newsquest Colchester.
Over the past few years- some might say- that her featured articles on Mr Russell and the Colchester Lib Dems have been somewhat overdone.
A balanced approach would be appreciated.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shrubendlad[/bold] wrote: WHERE IS RUSSELL ON THIS COLCHESTER KNIFE TERROR.? Playing with his Scoutmaster friends and their Penknives. Talk about Nero watching Rome burning.[/p][/quote]Why does Wendy Brading flood the local press with articles and photos re Russell when elections are near but when Colchester is terrified by knife crime there is NOTHING!!??[/p][/quote]Sorry, who is Wendy Brading?[/p][/quote]Wendy Brading -Bless her- is a specialist newswriter/news editor who works for Newsquest Colchester. Over the past few years- some might say- that her featured articles on Mr Russell and the Colchester Lib Dems have been somewhat overdone. A balanced approach would be appreciated. Shrubendlad
  • Score: 9

6:23pm Sun 29 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Thanks shrubendlad, I will Google newsquest.
Thanks shrubendlad, I will Google newsquest. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 2

12:55am Mon 30 Jun 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Thanks shrubendlad, I will Google newsquest.
Just checked it out. To my shame I had no idea they are so powerful. It's no wonder reading the local rags is like spending too long in the bath - you get extra wrinkles and no impression r of experiancing anything of importance.

We need a local news sheet, and now. Anyone know how to set up an email thingy?
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Thanks shrubendlad, I will Google newsquest.[/p][/quote]Just checked it out. To my shame I had no idea they are so powerful. It's no wonder reading the local rags is like spending too long in the bath - you get extra wrinkles and no impression r of experiancing anything of importance. We need a local news sheet, and now. Anyone know how to set up an email thingy? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 2

9:25am Sat 5 Jul 14

Heinz says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Smouldering Ewok wrote:
graham1983 wrote:
Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!!
100% agree with this.
The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots.
It is time for change!
Yes S.E. I agree, and I think all in Colchester do, but for one mp and the news desks in the county standard and the Gazette. To clarify, last week Russel slapped us all in the face by not having the strength of charactor to stand up as our mp and support Jay's mums anti knife campaign, and all who are worried sick for our loved ones and young people. Instead of voting to raise the deterrent strength of the law he cow tail to his party and vote against the bill.
Russell = Liberal Democrat = fence-sitter.

QED.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Smouldering Ewok[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]graham1983[/bold] wrote: Having a knife with you is completely unacceptable in itself, how is stabbing someone only GBH??? Surely if you stab someone it should be attempted murder!!! This isnt normal behaviour yet its happening way too often and is getting irritating reading about it everyday! Tougher sentances need to be found for these scroats!!![/p][/quote]100% agree with this. The law is way too soft on knife carrying idiots. It is time for change![/p][/quote]Yes S.E. I agree, and I think all in Colchester do, but for one mp and the news desks in the county standard and the Gazette. To clarify, last week Russel slapped us all in the face by not having the strength of charactor to stand up as our mp and support Jay's mums anti knife campaign, and all who are worried sick for our loved ones and young people. Instead of voting to raise the deterrent strength of the law he cow tail to his party and vote against the bill.[/p][/quote]Russell = Liberal Democrat = fence-sitter. QED. Heinz
  • Score: 2

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