Greenstead murder: knife found

Essex County Standard: Greenstead murder: knife found Greenstead murder: knife found

POLICE investigating the murder of Colchester student Nahid Al-Manea have sealed off a road after a knife was discovered.

Hawthorn Avenue has been briefly cordoned off after a passer-by found the item near drains on the road today.

A week on from the murder officers have been targeting their enquiries around the area where her body was discovered.

Nahid,  31, was murdered on the Salary Brook Trail in Colchester at 10.40am on Tuesday, June 17.

Detectives have set up checkpoints asking people if they were in the area at around the same time last week.

They have been speaking to cyclists and pedestrians in particular.

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2:42pm Tue 24 Jun 14

baldyslaph says...

Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???
Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder??? baldyslaph
  • Score: -50

3:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

ddrury says...

It doesn't matter how many hours/days... I applaud the police for finding it. This brings movement, possibly fingerprints and more information to catching this killer.
It doesn't matter how many hours/days... I applaud the police for finding it. This brings movement, possibly fingerprints and more information to catching this killer. ddrury
  • Score: 67

3:21pm Tue 24 Jun 14

SoundSense says...

To quote the BBC - "The knife was found close to the parade of shops where Ms Almanea was last seen on CCTV.

Michael Cooper, who found the 4in (10cm) red-handled blade, told the BBC the knife had not been there earlier in the day."
To quote the BBC - "The knife was found close to the parade of shops where Ms Almanea was last seen on CCTV. Michael Cooper, who found the 4in (10cm) red-handled blade, told the BBC the knife had not been there earlier in the day." SoundSense
  • Score: 19

3:54pm Tue 24 Jun 14

shallowJoker says...

ddrury wrote:
It doesn't matter how many hours/days... I applaud the police for finding it. This brings movement, possibly fingerprints and more information to catching this killer.
The Police didn't find it a passer by did, I know I read it above.
[quote][p][bold]ddrury[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter how many hours/days... I applaud the police for finding it. This brings movement, possibly fingerprints and more information to catching this killer.[/p][/quote]The Police didn't find it a passer by did, I know I read it above. shallowJoker
  • Score: 20

4:09pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Mac1970 says...

SoundSense wrote:
To quote the BBC - "The knife was found close to the parade of shops where Ms Almanea was last seen on CCTV.

Michael Cooper, who found the 4in (10cm) red-handled blade, told the BBC the knife had not been there earlier in the day."
So if it wasn't there earlier, does that suggest it has been used again?

Sincerely hope I am wrong.
[quote][p][bold]SoundSense[/bold] wrote: To quote the BBC - "The knife was found close to the parade of shops where Ms Almanea was last seen on CCTV. Michael Cooper, who found the 4in (10cm) red-handled blade, told the BBC the knife had not been there earlier in the day."[/p][/quote]So if it wasn't there earlier, does that suggest it has been used again? Sincerely hope I am wrong. Mac1970
  • Score: -12

4:16pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Ch4rlie22 says...

baldyslaph wrote:
Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???
its taken a week to find 'this knife' the incident happened LAST Tuesday the 17th not today 24th!
[quote][p][bold]baldyslaph[/bold] wrote: Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???[/p][/quote]its taken a week to find 'this knife' the incident happened LAST Tuesday the 17th not today 24th! Ch4rlie22
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Mr Honest says...

It's blatantly not THE knife is it? Hardly think the murderer decided a week later to come within a few hundred yards of the crime scene and drop a knife. Doh!
It's blatantly not THE knife is it? Hardly think the murderer decided a week later to come within a few hundred yards of the crime scene and drop a knife. Doh! Mr Honest
  • Score: 54

4:26pm Tue 24 Jun 14

the mighty wah says...

Likely some crank placed it there.
Likely some crank placed it there. the mighty wah
  • Score: 30

4:33pm Tue 24 Jun 14

William George says...

ddrury wrote:
It doesn't matter how many hours/days... I applaud the police for finding it. This brings movement, possibly fingerprints and more information to catching this killer.
ddrury your meaning and words of your comment are sensible and I agree about your applaud for the police that they deserve. It is showing that the police are trying to trace the culprit/s who wickedly and crually killed a young lady and killer will be eventually found.

Your words in your comment are correct.
[quote][p][bold]ddrury[/bold] wrote: It doesn't matter how many hours/days... I applaud the police for finding it. This brings movement, possibly fingerprints and more information to catching this killer.[/p][/quote]ddrury your meaning and words of your comment are sensible and I agree about your applaud for the police that they deserve. It is showing that the police are trying to trace the culprit/s who wickedly and crually killed a young lady and killer will be eventually found. Your words in your comment are correct. William George
  • Score: 7

5:28pm Tue 24 Jun 14

TheFluffy says...

baldyslaph wrote:
Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???
Completely unhelpful and inflammatory comment. Take your casual racism elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]baldyslaph[/bold] wrote: Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???[/p][/quote]Completely unhelpful and inflammatory comment. Take your casual racism elsewhere. TheFluffy
  • Score: 15

6:40pm Tue 24 Jun 14

born2know says...

Mr Honest wrote:
It's blatantly not THE knife is it? Hardly think the murderer decided a week later to come within a few hundred yards of the crime scene and drop a knife. Doh!
Most murders hover around in the background so to try a find out information and what the police are going to do next, Ian Huntley for one was always in the background when ever the TV crew were there that's how they got him. They always think they are more clever than the police but the police are one step ahead of them. I reckon who ever did it and who ever dumped the knife have been watching the police all week
[quote][p][bold]Mr Honest[/bold] wrote: It's blatantly not THE knife is it? Hardly think the murderer decided a week later to come within a few hundred yards of the crime scene and drop a knife. Doh![/p][/quote]Most murders hover around in the background so to try a find out information and what the police are going to do next, Ian Huntley for one was always in the background when ever the TV crew were there that's how they got him. They always think they are more clever than the police but the police are one step ahead of them. I reckon who ever did it and who ever dumped the knife have been watching the police all week born2know
  • Score: 17

7:39pm Tue 24 Jun 14

JohnStang says...

If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....
If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing.... JohnStang
  • Score: 19

7:59pm Tue 24 Jun 14

blockpaver says...

baldyslaph wrote:
Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???
Your comments are obviously suggesting that more effort by the Police has been put into this investigation than was the case with James Attfield. Living as I do near to where Mr A was murdered and having close view of the effort put in by the Police during the hours and days after his death I couldn’t see what more they could have done, then or now.
[quote][p][bold]baldyslaph[/bold] wrote: Took police over 6 hours to recover a knife which was reportedly found after James murder! What makes this enquiry more important I wonder???[/p][/quote]Your comments are obviously suggesting that more effort by the Police has been put into this investigation than was the case with James Attfield. Living as I do near to where Mr A was murdered and having close view of the effort put in by the Police during the hours and days after his death I couldn’t see what more they could have done, then or now. blockpaver
  • Score: 16

9:01pm Tue 24 Jun 14

cabbie77 says...

I have contacted police 3 times now with possible information each time they have said they will get back to me first time
I have contacted police 3 times now with possible information each time they have said they will get back to me first time cabbie77
  • Score: 12

9:03pm Tue 24 Jun 14

cabbie77 says...

Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are
Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are cabbie77
  • Score: 5

9:36pm Tue 24 Jun 14

paperboy10 says...

JohnStang wrote:
If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....
I have been following this story like most for the last few weeks. This forum really does bring out the amateur detective brigade. Too many people watching way too much Taggart and making such stupid comments. This is real life people not the ITV drama. John Stang leading Colchester Criminologist is a prime example. Let the Police do their job...im pretty dam sure they know what they are doing..that's all.
[quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....[/p][/quote]I have been following this story like most for the last few weeks. This forum really does bring out the amateur detective brigade. Too many people watching way too much Taggart and making such stupid comments. This is real life people not the ITV drama. John Stang leading Colchester Criminologist is a prime example. Let the Police do their job...im pretty dam sure they know what they are doing..that's all. paperboy10
  • Score: -2

9:47pm Tue 24 Jun 14

TheFluffy says...

paperboy10 wrote:
JohnStang wrote:
If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....
I have been following this story like most for the last few weeks. This forum really does bring out the amateur detective brigade. Too many people watching way too much Taggart and making such stupid comments. This is real life people not the ITV drama. John Stang leading Colchester Criminologist is a prime example. Let the Police do their job...im pretty dam sure they know what they are doing..that's all.
This. 100 times.
[quote][p][bold]paperboy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....[/p][/quote]I have been following this story like most for the last few weeks. This forum really does bring out the amateur detective brigade. Too many people watching way too much Taggart and making such stupid comments. This is real life people not the ITV drama. John Stang leading Colchester Criminologist is a prime example. Let the Police do their job...im pretty dam sure they know what they are doing..that's all.[/p][/quote]This. 100 times. TheFluffy
  • Score: 4

10:00pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Weazelbum says...

I think it's a bit harsh to call people stupid when they're just offering their views and opinions, isn't that after all what a forum is for? As I live very close to the first murder site, this is really frightening, people want to talk about it and speculate as to what the hell is happening. Obviously we're not detectives, I certainly don't claim to be!
I think it's a bit harsh to call people stupid when they're just offering their views and opinions, isn't that after all what a forum is for? As I live very close to the first murder site, this is really frightening, people want to talk about it and speculate as to what the hell is happening. Obviously we're not detectives, I certainly don't claim to be! Weazelbum
  • Score: 19

10:27pm Tue 24 Jun 14

JohnStang says...

Ha.... well of course I see what you are saying.... but I don't think I am doing any harm.... Like a few others who comment on here, I live a few minutes away where Atfield was found so it really hits home.... Even after Atfield was found, I still thought I would be safe using the paths to Leisureworld after dark as long as I wasn't walking around at 4am, but now I understand I cannot do this either.... So these are things that I have been mulling over for my own safety really....
Ha.... well of course I see what you are saying.... but I don't think I am doing any harm.... Like a few others who comment on here, I live a few minutes away where Atfield was found so it really hits home.... Even after Atfield was found, I still thought I would be safe using the paths to Leisureworld after dark as long as I wasn't walking around at 4am, but now I understand I cannot do this either.... So these are things that I have been mulling over for my own safety really.... JohnStang
  • Score: 13

11:06pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Baba O'Reilly says...

There was a huge police presence on Greenstead today. Maybe someone was carrying a knife for protection or for more sinister reasons or for whatever reason, spotted the police and decided to 'lose' the knife. Just a thought.
There was a huge police presence on Greenstead today. Maybe someone was carrying a knife for protection or for more sinister reasons or for whatever reason, spotted the police and decided to 'lose' the knife. Just a thought. Baba O'Reilly
  • Score: 1

11:18pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jut1972 says...

cabbie77 wrote:
Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are
Ring them again then.
[quote][p][bold]cabbie77[/bold] wrote: Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are[/p][/quote]Ring them again then. jut1972
  • Score: 9

6:17am Wed 25 Jun 14

cabbie77 says...

Dont make any difference how many times I speak to them they obviously dont think my information is important enough to call me back even though I said I reconized the person in peache rd before I saw the cctv then was even more convinced wen I saw the cctv then also saw him just before the knife was found near greensted carrying shopping bags that didnt look like they had shopping in oh and if he was disguarding something the bin men come this morning maybe nothing but you think they would come speak to me but no not yet
Dont make any difference how many times I speak to them they obviously dont think my information is important enough to call me back even though I said I reconized the person in peache rd before I saw the cctv then was even more convinced wen I saw the cctv then also saw him just before the knife was found near greensted carrying shopping bags that didnt look like they had shopping in oh and if he was disguarding something the bin men come this morning maybe nothing but you think they would come speak to me but no not yet cabbie77
  • Score: 2

6:53am Wed 25 Jun 14

A Very Primate Gentleman says...

cabbie77 wrote:
Dont make any difference how many times I speak to them they obviously dont think my information is important enough to call me back even though I said I reconized the person in peache rd before I saw the cctv then was even more convinced wen I saw the cctv then also saw him just before the knife was found near greensted carrying shopping bags that didnt look like they had shopping in oh and if he was disguarding something the bin men come this morning maybe nothing but you think they would come speak to me but no not yet
Still easier for you to bleat on about it on the Internet than actually walk into the police station I guess that would be too much like hard work.
[quote][p][bold]cabbie77[/bold] wrote: Dont make any difference how many times I speak to them they obviously dont think my information is important enough to call me back even though I said I reconized the person in peache rd before I saw the cctv then was even more convinced wen I saw the cctv then also saw him just before the knife was found near greensted carrying shopping bags that didnt look like they had shopping in oh and if he was disguarding something the bin men come this morning maybe nothing but you think they would come speak to me but no not yet[/p][/quote]Still easier for you to bleat on about it on the Internet than actually walk into the police station I guess that would be too much like hard work. A Very Primate Gentleman
  • Score: 14

7:04am Wed 25 Jun 14

1980-colchester says...

cabbie77 wrote:
Dont make any difference how many times I speak to them they obviously dont think my information is important enough to call me back even though I said I reconized the person in peache rd before I saw the cctv then was even more convinced wen I saw the cctv then also saw him just before the knife was found near greensted carrying shopping bags that didnt look like they had shopping in oh and if he was disguarding something the bin men come this morning maybe nothing but you think they would come speak to me but no not yet
Cabbie 77, I know it must be frustrating as you have tried to make contact several times but have you tried the crime stoppers number or the email or both? The crime stoppers number is 0800555111 or essex police on 01245282103 or 101. Keep trying until they listen, I'm sure it's that they are busy following up lots of leads but if you feel your information is vital you really need to get it heard not for the police but for all of the people of colchester!

Good luck 👍
[quote][p][bold]cabbie77[/bold] wrote: Dont make any difference how many times I speak to them they obviously dont think my information is important enough to call me back even though I said I reconized the person in peache rd before I saw the cctv then was even more convinced wen I saw the cctv then also saw him just before the knife was found near greensted carrying shopping bags that didnt look like they had shopping in oh and if he was disguarding something the bin men come this morning maybe nothing but you think they would come speak to me but no not yet[/p][/quote]Cabbie 77, I know it must be frustrating as you have tried to make contact several times but have you tried the crime stoppers number or the email or both? The crime stoppers number is 0800555111 or essex police on 01245282103 or 101. Keep trying until they listen, I'm sure it's that they are busy following up lots of leads but if you feel your information is vital you really need to get it heard not for the police but for all of the people of colchester! Good luck 👍 1980-colchester
  • Score: 22

7:18am Wed 25 Jun 14

cabbie77 says...

I have spoke to two officers on the street and phoned 101 so dont tell me I aint done anything
I have spoke to two officers on the street and phoned 101 so dont tell me I aint done anything cabbie77
  • Score: -19

7:23am Wed 25 Jun 14

the mighty wah says...

Lucky that the off duty jogger is a policewoman as most people whilst jogging would be to tired, as possibly not have the skills, to adequately fight an attacker off.
Lucky that the off duty jogger is a policewoman as most people whilst jogging would be to tired, as possibly not have the skills, to adequately fight an attacker off. the mighty wah
  • Score: 1

7:26am Wed 25 Jun 14

co2 says...

cabbie77 wrote:
Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are
I dont wish to criticize the police either,but a woman i know who lives very near to the attack in avon way has told the police 3 times about a bag of dumped clothes near her property,she told the police this once on the door to door enquiry and on 2 other occasions,the bag of clothes may be unconnected to the murder but i would have thought they would wish to examine the clothes.
[quote][p][bold]cabbie77[/bold] wrote: Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are[/p][/quote]I dont wish to criticize the police either,but a woman i know who lives very near to the attack in avon way has told the police 3 times about a bag of dumped clothes near her property,she told the police this once on the door to door enquiry and on 2 other occasions,the bag of clothes may be unconnected to the murder but i would have thought they would wish to examine the clothes. co2
  • Score: 8

7:30am Wed 25 Jun 14

Rachy888 says...

Thats awful u would think the police would be very keen to check or call bk no wonder they not been caught yet
Thats awful u would think the police would be very keen to check or call bk no wonder they not been caught yet Rachy888
  • Score: 7

8:18am Wed 25 Jun 14

NolongerGREATBritain says...

If I had information regarding these murders I would march straight into the police station and refuse to leave until a full statement is taken.
If I had information regarding these murders I would march straight into the police station and refuse to leave until a full statement is taken. NolongerGREATBritain
  • Score: 10

8:57am Wed 25 Jun 14

the mighty wah says...

the mighty wah wrote:
Lucky that the off duty jogger is a policewoman as most people whilst jogging would be to tired, as possibly not have the skills, to adequately fight an attacker off.
and not as. cant work out the thumbs down?
[quote][p][bold]the mighty wah[/bold] wrote: Lucky that the off duty jogger is a policewoman as most people whilst jogging would be to tired, as possibly not have the skills, to adequately fight an attacker off.[/p][/quote]and not as. cant work out the thumbs down? the mighty wah
  • Score: -6

9:05am Wed 25 Jun 14

romantic says...

paperboy10 wrote:
JohnStang wrote:
If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....
I have been following this story like most for the last few weeks. This forum really does bring out the amateur detective brigade. Too many people watching way too much Taggart and making such stupid comments. This is real life people not the ITV drama. John Stang leading Colchester Criminologist is a prime example. Let the Police do their job...im pretty dam sure they know what they are doing..that's all.
The police are sensible enough to realise that social media and websites such as this CAN sometimes throw up information which helps. There are plenty of people out there, especially youngsters, who never see the news (seriously, it's true), but they do see Facebook. There are plenty of people on Facebook talking about these murders, and perhaps somebody will have that critical bit of information which reveals who this was. Or maybe somebody on this site.

You are calling people the "amateur detective brigade", but I think most people who contribute to this site are aware enough that this is real life. Perhaps a bit too real for most, in fact - this is the sort of stuff that happens in dodgy urban slums, not Colchester.

There is real fear out there. Very few murders are completely random, they are mostly done by people known to the victim. But that's why people are so fearful, because it really could be anybody next.
[quote][p][bold]paperboy10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JohnStang[/bold] wrote: If we assume that the Atfield, Nahid, and jogger attacks are all done by the same person, then it looks like he is attacking people not completely randomly but by their vunerability. Atfield was disabled so could not fight back so well, he might even have been wearing headphones if he was listening to music. Nahid's traditional muslim dress would no doubt have it made it difficult for her to see her peripheries so she may not have any idea what was occurring around her. The girl who was jogging maybe had headphones on also. If this is the case, then he is targetting his victims, stalking them and then attacking when he sees the best opportunity. This is all hypothetical as the police haven't released details.... For instance, with the jogger who was attacked, was the attacker hiding in a bunch? Was he just someone she was jogging past who suddenly turned on her? If we assume he does not know any of his victims, then these "motiveless" attacks must be designed to terrorize the community..... He is getting a kick out of the attention and fear he is causing....[/p][/quote]I have been following this story like most for the last few weeks. This forum really does bring out the amateur detective brigade. Too many people watching way too much Taggart and making such stupid comments. This is real life people not the ITV drama. John Stang leading Colchester Criminologist is a prime example. Let the Police do their job...im pretty dam sure they know what they are doing..that's all.[/p][/quote]The police are sensible enough to realise that social media and websites such as this CAN sometimes throw up information which helps. There are plenty of people out there, especially youngsters, who never see the news (seriously, it's true), but they do see Facebook. There are plenty of people on Facebook talking about these murders, and perhaps somebody will have that critical bit of information which reveals who this was. Or maybe somebody on this site. You are calling people the "amateur detective brigade", but I think most people who contribute to this site are aware enough that this is real life. Perhaps a bit too real for most, in fact - this is the sort of stuff that happens in dodgy urban slums, not Colchester. There is real fear out there. Very few murders are completely random, they are mostly done by people known to the victim. But that's why people are so fearful, because it really could be anybody next. romantic
  • Score: 12

10:36am Wed 25 Jun 14

1980-colchester says...

cabbie77 wrote:
I have spoke to two officers on the street and phoned 101 so dont tell me I aint done anything
Wasn't suggesting you haven't done anything, was merely offering KIND advise! Your information sounds like it could be important I wouldn't want it to be overlooked! Again it's not a fault on your part because you have been trying to get your information across was merely offering you support and advise on how to!
[quote][p][bold]cabbie77[/bold] wrote: I have spoke to two officers on the street and phoned 101 so dont tell me I aint done anything[/p][/quote]Wasn't suggesting you haven't done anything, was merely offering KIND advise! Your information sounds like it could be important I wouldn't want it to be overlooked! Again it's not a fault on your part because you have been trying to get your information across was merely offering you support and advise on how to! 1980-colchester
  • Score: 15

11:28am Wed 25 Jun 14

shallowJoker says...

co2 wrote:
cabbie77 wrote:
Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are
I dont wish to criticize the police either,but a woman i know who lives very near to the attack in avon way has told the police 3 times about a bag of dumped clothes near her property,she told the police this once on the door to door enquiry and on 2 other occasions,the bag of clothes may be unconnected to the murder but i would have thought they would wish to examine the clothes.
Where are the clothes? I will take them to cash for clothes.
[quote][p][bold]co2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cabbie77[/bold] wrote: Being sat night and still nothing im sure by the time they adventually get back to me there will be no evidence useless they are[/p][/quote]I dont wish to criticize the police either,but a woman i know who lives very near to the attack in avon way has told the police 3 times about a bag of dumped clothes near her property,she told the police this once on the door to door enquiry and on 2 other occasions,the bag of clothes may be unconnected to the murder but i would have thought they would wish to examine the clothes.[/p][/quote]Where are the clothes? I will take them to cash for clothes. shallowJoker
  • Score: -11

2:01pm Wed 25 Jun 14

the mighty wah says...

the mighty wah wrote:
the mighty wah wrote:
Lucky that the off duty jogger is a policewoman as most people whilst jogging would be to tired, as possibly not have the skills, to adequately fight an attacker off.
and not as. cant work out the thumbs down?
so to the people who gave the thumbs down, would it have been better if the jogger was unable to fight the attacker off?
[quote][p][bold]the mighty wah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the mighty wah[/bold] wrote: Lucky that the off duty jogger is a policewoman as most people whilst jogging would be to tired, as possibly not have the skills, to adequately fight an attacker off.[/p][/quote]and not as. cant work out the thumbs down?[/p][/quote]so to the people who gave the thumbs down, would it have been better if the jogger was unable to fight the attacker off? the mighty wah
  • Score: -5

5:57pm Wed 25 Jun 14

graham1983 says...

These comments are very entertaining! I know that suffolk, kent and other police are being asked to help our own police on these cases as we havent got enough of our own, its not reassuring at all. Who cares that 1 knife was found anyway, theyve just said since the latest murder over 30 knives have been recovered.
These comments are very entertaining! I know that suffolk, kent and other police are being asked to help our own police on these cases as we havent got enough of our own, its not reassuring at all. Who cares that 1 knife was found anyway, theyve just said since the latest murder over 30 knives have been recovered. graham1983
  • Score: 3

8:19am Thu 26 Jun 14

Nom De Plume says...

Is this the murder weapon or not, is the only question people should be asking or concerned about?
Is this the murder weapon or not, is the only question people should be asking or concerned about? Nom De Plume
  • Score: 0

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