Apache helicopters to continue low-flying training in Colchester until Thursday

Apache helicopters to continue low-flying training in Colchester until Thursday

Apache helicopters to continue low-flying training in Colchester until Thursday

First published in News

RESIDENTS are being told to expect low-flying military helicopters to continue until later in the week.

Many residents were woken by the sound of Apache Attack helicopters flying above the town in the early hours of this morning.

An Army spokesman confirmed the Apaches, based at RAF Wattisham, are in training before being deployed to Afghanistan and will be flying in the area until Thursday.

He added: “All military low flying is conducted in accordance with the Military Aviation Authority’s UK Low Flying Handbook.

“Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible.

“The Attack Helicopter Force has been on continuous operations in Afghanistan since 2006 and to deliver this commitment, we have to conduct demanding training within our local low flying area.”

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5:00pm Tue 13 May 14

hootch732 says...

they are always flying low over my house, hadnt noticed anything different
they are always flying low over my house, hadnt noticed anything different hootch732
  • Score: 14

5:12pm Tue 13 May 14

Colonel Kurtz says...

Beautiful machines. Great to see them
Beautiful machines. Great to see them Colonel Kurtz
  • Score: 25

5:34pm Tue 13 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

The best of the best
AVPG:
The best of the best AVPG: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 9

6:28pm Tue 13 May 14

Josephine1 says...

I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area? Josephine1
  • Score: -44

7:54pm Tue 13 May 14

mirokou says...

Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
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[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]and yet you enjoy your expression of freedom and thought without fear or oppression… “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” ― Winston Churchill mirokou
  • Score: 15

8:10pm Tue 13 May 14

Suffolkcommuter says...

Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
NIMBY?

Let them get on with it! They have to train somewhere
[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]NIMBY? Let them get on with it! They have to train somewhere Suffolkcommuter
  • Score: 24

8:53pm Tue 13 May 14

Josephine1 says...

Not NIMBYism. You try working in your garden when they are flying round and round and round and ROUND all day long. For me, it's a bit like torture, like a dripping tap......
Not NIMBYism. You try working in your garden when they are flying round and round and round and ROUND all day long. For me, it's a bit like torture, like a dripping tap...... Josephine1
  • Score: -26

9:05pm Tue 13 May 14

blockpaver says...

Suffolkcommuter wrote:
Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
NIMBY?

Let them get on with it! They have to train somewhere
To "Suffolkcommuter".

Disgraceful comments. Young men training to equip themselves as best they can to go off to “war zones” on behalf of us all and risk their lives, and to give them and their colleagues the best chance of coming back in one piece and you moan about a few days of relatively low level noise.

You should to be ashamed of yourself!
[quote][p][bold]Suffolkcommuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]NIMBY? Let them get on with it! They have to train somewhere[/p][/quote]To "Suffolkcommuter". Disgraceful comments. Young men training to equip themselves as best they can to go off to “war zones” on behalf of us all and risk their lives, and to give them and their colleagues the best chance of coming back in one piece and you moan about a few days of relatively low level noise. You should to be ashamed of yourself! blockpaver
  • Score: 28

9:08pm Tue 13 May 14

blockpaver says...

blockpaver wrote:
Suffolkcommuter wrote:
Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
NIMBY?

Let them get on with it! They have to train somewhere
To "Suffolkcommuter".

Disgraceful comments. Young men training to equip themselves as best they can to go off to “war zones” on behalf of us all and risk their lives, and to give them and their colleagues the best chance of coming back in one piece and you moan about a few days of relatively low level noise.

You should to be ashamed of yourself!
Apologies "Suffolkcommuter", I was addressing my commentsto: "Josephine1"
[quote][p][bold]blockpaver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Suffolkcommuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]NIMBY? Let them get on with it! They have to train somewhere[/p][/quote]To "Suffolkcommuter". Disgraceful comments. Young men training to equip themselves as best they can to go off to “war zones” on behalf of us all and risk their lives, and to give them and their colleagues the best chance of coming back in one piece and you moan about a few days of relatively low level noise. You should to be ashamed of yourself![/p][/quote]Apologies "Suffolkcommuter", I was addressing my commentsto: "Josephine1" blockpaver
  • Score: 4

9:20pm Tue 13 May 14

hughie-s says...

Josephine1 wrote:
Not NIMBYism. You try working in your garden when they are flying round and round and round and ROUND all day long. For me, it's a bit like torture, like a dripping tap......
IMO there is now far LESS helicopter activity than there was in the past.
[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: Not NIMBYism. You try working in your garden when they are flying round and round and round and ROUND all day long. For me, it's a bit like torture, like a dripping tap......[/p][/quote]IMO there is now far LESS helicopter activity than there was in the past. hughie-s
  • Score: 4

9:34pm Tue 13 May 14

Josephine1 says...

"Relatively low level noise"? Just glad I don't have a young child I'm trying to get to sleep right now (9.30pm) while the helicopters still buzz around over Layer de la Haye.
"Relatively low level noise"? Just glad I don't have a young child I'm trying to get to sleep right now (9.30pm) while the helicopters still buzz around over Layer de la Haye. Josephine1
  • Score: -20

10:07pm Tue 13 May 14

hughie-s says...

Josephine1 wrote:
"Relatively low level noise"? Just glad I don't have a young child I'm trying to get to sleep right now (9.30pm) while the helicopters still buzz around over Layer de la Haye.
Just be thankful they were Apaches and not Chinooks.
[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: "Relatively low level noise"? Just glad I don't have a young child I'm trying to get to sleep right now (9.30pm) while the helicopters still buzz around over Layer de la Haye.[/p][/quote]Just be thankful they were Apaches and not Chinooks. hughie-s
  • Score: 17

10:11pm Tue 13 May 14

purrdreamz says...

Get some ear plugs, they are doing a great job and need to train.
Get some ear plugs, they are doing a great job and need to train. purrdreamz
  • Score: 9

11:06pm Tue 13 May 14

seikothrill says...

What do you expect living in/ near a Garrison Town?

I actually think it is quite special seeing these helicopters whether training or not
What do you expect living in/ near a Garrison Town? I actually think it is quite special seeing these helicopters whether training or not seikothrill
  • Score: 27

12:04am Wed 14 May 14

greenbroker says...

Funny how some residents accept helicopter noise and yet complain about possible noise from a possible Kentucky Fried Chicken in town?
Funny how some residents accept helicopter noise and yet complain about possible noise from a possible Kentucky Fried Chicken in town? greenbroker
  • Score: 11

12:11am Wed 14 May 14

Boris says...

If Josephine1 was protesting against our troops practising for neocolonial wars, i would respect her. As she is merely whingeing about the noise, I have given each of her comments the thumbs-down.
If we are happy to have an interventionist foreign policy, we must all accept the occasional disturbance. it's supposed to finish on Thursday, anyway.
If Josephine1 was protesting against our troops practising for neocolonial wars, i would respect her. As she is merely whingeing about the noise, I have given each of her comments the thumbs-down. If we are happy to have an interventionist foreign policy, we must all accept the occasional disturbance. it's supposed to finish on Thursday, anyway. Boris
  • Score: -1

7:25am Wed 14 May 14

Trev1972 says...

@mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.
@mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone. Trev1972
  • Score: 12

10:08am Wed 14 May 14

stevedawson says...

I dont see why they had to use both our apache helicopters at the same time.
I dont see why they had to use both our apache helicopters at the same time. stevedawson
  • Score: 7

10:21am Wed 14 May 14

Swifty Morgan says...

I stood outside my house in Wivenhoe last night and watched in awe as one of these superb machines banked showing off its full profile complete with weaponary. Not often you see something like that!
I stood outside my house in Wivenhoe last night and watched in awe as one of these superb machines banked showing off its full profile complete with weaponary. Not often you see something like that! Swifty Morgan
  • Score: 20

11:16am Wed 14 May 14

greenbroker says...

Swifty Morgan wrote:
I stood outside my house in Wivenhoe last night and watched in awe as one of these superb machines banked showing off its full profile complete with weaponary. Not often you see something like that!
At a cost of £30 million plus, they ought to look good?
[quote][p][bold]Swifty Morgan[/bold] wrote: I stood outside my house in Wivenhoe last night and watched in awe as one of these superb machines banked showing off its full profile complete with weaponary. Not often you see something like that![/p][/quote]At a cost of £30 million plus, they ought to look good? greenbroker
  • Score: 2

12:45pm Wed 14 May 14

jag99 says...

Colchester has been a garrison town for nearly 2000 years, longer than any of us have lived here... I'd be a little surprised if there wasn't some military activity going on somewhere in the area, which inevitably can come with some noise...
Colchester has been a garrison town for nearly 2000 years, longer than any of us have lived here... I'd be a little surprised if there wasn't some military activity going on somewhere in the area, which inevitably can come with some noise... jag99
  • Score: 15

1:39pm Wed 14 May 14

hughie-s says...

Ear plugs at the ready, night firing coming up...

http://www.gazette-n
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Ear plugs at the ready, night firing coming up... http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/archive/20 14/04/25/11171938.MI NISTRY_OF_DEFENCE_NO TICE___Middlewick_Ra nges/ hughie-s
  • Score: 2

2:12pm Wed 14 May 14

cynicalsubber says...

Avoiding built-up areas? They spent the whole of today's lunch-hour flying back and forth over the hospital! OK, they need to train, but I'd love to know what would have happened if the air ambulance was needed...
Avoiding built-up areas? They spent the whole of today's lunch-hour flying back and forth over the hospital! OK, they need to train, but I'd love to know what would have happened if the air ambulance was needed... cynicalsubber
  • Score: 1

5:02pm Wed 14 May 14

PaulWagland says...

Trev1972 wrote:
@mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.
Very well said, Trev.

All those gentle souls who believe the helicopter gunships in Afghanistan have been sent there to protect our freedom, please could you contact me? I have some excellent time share investments which will definitely interest you. And how about a genuine Rolex, from the company's new Hong Kong branch, for just £199.99?
[quote][p][bold]Trev1972[/bold] wrote: @mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.[/p][/quote]Very well said, Trev. All those gentle souls who believe the helicopter gunships in Afghanistan have been sent there to protect our freedom, please could you contact me? I have some excellent time share investments which will definitely interest you. And how about a genuine Rolex, from the company's new Hong Kong branch, for just £199.99? PaulWagland
  • Score: 5

6:19pm Wed 14 May 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

stevedawson wrote:
I dont see why they had to use both our apache helicopters at the same time.
Perhaps we should ask the MOD to give you a reason?!
[quote][p][bold]stevedawson[/bold] wrote: I dont see why they had to use both our apache helicopters at the same time.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we should ask the MOD to give you a reason?! Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 3

6:21pm Wed 14 May 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
I know many of the people of Abberton would be disgusted to know this, but Abberton is part of Colchester - a garrison town. This happens for a few days at a time, once or twice a year.

Not exactly a hardship. Try earplugs?
[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]I know many of the people of Abberton would be disgusted to know this, but Abberton is part of Colchester - a garrison town. This happens for a few days at a time, once or twice a year. Not exactly a hardship. Try earplugs? Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 13

6:56pm Wed 14 May 14

FrankiesaysRelax! says...

British guy walks down a street in Colchester and shoots another man in the head= murderer. British guy walks down a street in Afghanistan and shoots another man in the head= hero. Difference?
British guy walks down a street in Colchester and shoots another man in the head= murderer. British guy walks down a street in Afghanistan and shoots another man in the head= hero. Difference? FrankiesaysRelax!
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Wed 14 May 14

angryman!!! says...

The difference is the British guy in Afghanistan would only open fire once the enemy had opened fire. He would probably have intelligence that guy is a known insurgent, he would probably have intercepted radio communications to say that they will open fire at any moment, however the British guy under rules of engage my will still wait to be fired upon. That's the difference.
Also if any of you have been to afghan and heard any locals say the British are doing a bad job then maybe I will listen, however every afghan I meet said they were happy with us, especially in the last 5 years were there's been a lot more softly softly approach.
Remember most of the guys that are killing and dieing fighting insurgents are not british/American or any other isaf forces but young afghans, they are not fighting for our oil rights or any other horsecr@p you want to come up with they are trying to defend their country against people that are happy to kill children, women and anybody that disaagrees with them.
Fair play to them and fair play to any British guy who had given their life, legs, arms etc. Thank good there's people like them rather than half the creatures on here!
The difference is the British guy in Afghanistan would only open fire once the enemy had opened fire. He would probably have intelligence that guy is a known insurgent, he would probably have intercepted radio communications to say that they will open fire at any moment, however the British guy under rules of engage my will still wait to be fired upon. That's the difference. Also if any of you have been to afghan and heard any locals say the British are doing a bad job then maybe I will listen, however every afghan I meet said they were happy with us, especially in the last 5 years were there's been a lot more softly softly approach. Remember most of the guys that are killing and dieing fighting insurgents are not british/American or any other isaf forces but young afghans, they are not fighting for our oil rights or any other horsecr@p you want to come up with they are trying to defend their country against people that are happy to kill children, women and anybody that disaagrees with them. Fair play to them and fair play to any British guy who had given their life, legs, arms etc. Thank good there's people like them rather than half the creatures on here! angryman!!!
  • Score: 9

8:38pm Wed 14 May 14

FrankiesaysRelax! says...

Oh so all the people killled over there are enemy combatants? = no innocent mothers\fathers\chil
dren killed? ok
Oh so all the people killled over there are enemy combatants? = no innocent mothers\fathers\chil dren killed? ok FrankiesaysRelax!
  • Score: 0

9:22pm Wed 14 May 14

stevedawson says...

Richie hicks.l did and they said we had to send both for richie.
Richie hicks.l did and they said we had to send both for richie. stevedawson
  • Score: 2

11:45pm Wed 14 May 14

angryman!!! says...

Sadly in war yes there are a few innocent people killed, however in recent years I would be suprised if there has been any from isaf. However many are still getting killed by Taliban on a daily basis. This is far fewer number than at the start of the war mainly due to the incrediblely good job isaf and afghan army and even police I'm more recent years have done.
Sadly in war yes there are a few innocent people killed, however in recent years I would be suprised if there has been any from isaf. However many are still getting killed by Taliban on a daily basis. This is far fewer number than at the start of the war mainly due to the incrediblely good job isaf and afghan army and even police I'm more recent years have done. angryman!!!
  • Score: 2

7:11am Thu 15 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

stevedawson wrote:
I dont see why they had to use both our apache helicopters at the same time.
Actuality Steven we have over 40 over them, fully kitted out they are well over £40 Million Pounds each:
And can i say we bloody well need them along with a load of A10 Tank busters and all our old Harrier Mk 9's back:
AVPG:
[quote][p][bold]stevedawson[/bold] wrote: I dont see why they had to use both our apache helicopters at the same time.[/p][/quote]Actuality Steven we have over 40 over them, fully kitted out they are well over £40 Million Pounds each: And can i say we bloody well need them along with a load of A10 Tank busters and all our old Harrier Mk 9's back: AVPG: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 2

7:17am Thu 15 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
This is extremely ungrateful, quite nasty and very NIMBY, are you sure you do not come from Ipswich road?
One of those lads comes from Colchester and they fly around paying their respects to all serviceman past and present, Air Power has always been a moral boost. When our chaps are bunkered down in a fire fight, there is never a more welcoming sight than Air Cover.
With a big sigh, I say you are entitled to your opinion along with everyone else, we may not agree with you.
AVPG:
[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]This is extremely ungrateful, quite nasty and very NIMBY, are you sure you do not come from Ipswich road? One of those lads comes from Colchester and they fly around paying their respects to all serviceman past and present, Air Power has always been a moral boost. When our chaps are bunkered down in a fire fight, there is never a more welcoming sight than Air Cover. With a big sigh, I say you are entitled to your opinion along with everyone else, we may not agree with you. AVPG: A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 9

10:57am Thu 15 May 14

Smouldering Ewok says...

They are great to see and whenever i'm gardening and they appear i put my eyes to the sky.
They are great to see and whenever i'm gardening and they appear i put my eyes to the sky. Smouldering Ewok
  • Score: 8

11:45am Thu 15 May 14

mirokou says...

Trev1972 wrote:
@mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.
The safety of our people and the countries interest are not just within these coastal walls.. You may also like to ask the few million innocent Afghans , how they enjoyed their first democratic vote..Something you have done for years without even the fear of your family being murdered just for having an opinion and casting political opinion…Democracy is hard won and hard fought, the democratic countries of this world have, in modern history ,fought tyranny and religious persecution to allow a free world to allow people freedom of expression and movement around the globe..Take a deep breath..As for the police .Yes I agree, but unfortunately at a local level we as a nation seem to enjoy picking fault at every opportunity with the best Police service in the world to the point where we wonder why none of them see to
give a s**t anymore.. if you keep kicking a loyal guard dog ,one day he will bite you on the heels.
[quote][p][bold]Trev1972[/bold] wrote: @mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.[/p][/quote]The safety of our people and the countries interest are not just within these coastal walls.. You may also like to ask the few million innocent Afghans , how they enjoyed their first democratic vote..Something you have done for years without even the fear of your family being murdered just for having an opinion and casting political opinion…Democracy is hard won and hard fought, the democratic countries of this world have, in modern history ,fought tyranny and religious persecution to allow a free world to allow people freedom of expression and movement around the globe..Take a deep breath..As for the police .Yes I agree, but unfortunately at a local level we as a nation seem to enjoy picking fault at every opportunity with the best Police service in the world to the point where we wonder why none of them see to give a s**t anymore.. if you keep kicking a loyal guard dog ,one day he will bite you on the heels. mirokou
  • Score: 1

12:12pm Thu 15 May 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

mirokou wrote:
Trev1972 wrote:
@mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.
The safety of our people and the countries interest are not just within these coastal walls.. You may also like to ask the few million innocent Afghans , how they enjoyed their first democratic vote..Something you have done for years without even the fear of your family being murdered just for having an opinion and casting political opinion…Democracy is hard won and hard fought, the democratic countries of this world have, in modern history ,fought tyranny and religious persecution to allow a free world to allow people freedom of expression and movement around the globe..Take a deep breath..As for the police .Yes I agree, but unfortunately at a local level we as a nation seem to enjoy picking fault at every opportunity with the best Police service in the world to the point where we wonder why none of them see to
give a s**t anymore.. if you keep kicking a loyal guard dog ,one day he will bite you on the heels.
A police forced run like the army? Sounds like military occupation to me! Perhaps the Apache's are spying on us, ready to take control for the beginning of a communist United Kingdom; so that we can invade the separatists countries of Scotland & Cornwall for their oil, deep fried Mars Bars and pasties?
[quote][p][bold]mirokou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Trev1972[/bold] wrote: @mirokou Oh they are over in Afghanistan to stop an invading force from coming over and taking away our freedom? Here is me thinking that they were trying to protect britains access to the oil line and control the leadership over there to get the cheapest price. All the noble reasons they feed us are a load of rubbish. The soldiers are going over thinking they fighting for a noble cause but really its just the government trying to make money. And another point why are soliders considered more of a hero than a local policeman who risk their lives to try and keep the peace, and thats without killing anyone.[/p][/quote]The safety of our people and the countries interest are not just within these coastal walls.. You may also like to ask the few million innocent Afghans , how they enjoyed their first democratic vote..Something you have done for years without even the fear of your family being murdered just for having an opinion and casting political opinion…Democracy is hard won and hard fought, the democratic countries of this world have, in modern history ,fought tyranny and religious persecution to allow a free world to allow people freedom of expression and movement around the globe..Take a deep breath..As for the police .Yes I agree, but unfortunately at a local level we as a nation seem to enjoy picking fault at every opportunity with the best Police service in the world to the point where we wonder why none of them see to give a s**t anymore.. if you keep kicking a loyal guard dog ,one day he will bite you on the heels.[/p][/quote]A police forced run like the army? Sounds like military occupation to me! Perhaps the Apache's are spying on us, ready to take control for the beginning of a communist United Kingdom; so that we can invade the separatists countries of Scotland & Cornwall for their oil, deep fried Mars Bars and pasties? Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 2

11:28pm Thu 15 May 14

Boris says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
This is extremely ungrateful, quite nasty and very NIMBY, are you sure you do not come from Ipswich road?
One of those lads comes from Colchester and they fly around paying their respects to all serviceman past and present, Air Power has always been a moral boost. When our chaps are bunkered down in a fire fight, there is never a more welcoming sight than Air Cover.
With a big sigh, I say you are entitled to your opinion along with everyone else, we may not agree with you.
AVPG:
Ipswich Road? What have you got against the denizens of that area? She has said she lives in Layer-de-la-Haye, which is where Abberton Reservoir is. I deplore her moaning, but I don't see why you should associate her with an area of town that is not hers.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]This is extremely ungrateful, quite nasty and very NIMBY, are you sure you do not come from Ipswich road? One of those lads comes from Colchester and they fly around paying their respects to all serviceman past and present, Air Power has always been a moral boost. When our chaps are bunkered down in a fire fight, there is never a more welcoming sight than Air Cover. With a big sigh, I say you are entitled to your opinion along with everyone else, we may not agree with you. AVPG:[/p][/quote]Ipswich Road? What have you got against the denizens of that area? She has said she lives in Layer-de-la-Haye, which is where Abberton Reservoir is. I deplore her moaning, but I don't see why you should associate her with an area of town that is not hers. Boris
  • Score: 0

9:50am Fri 16 May 14

Catchedicam says...

angryman!!! wrote:
The difference is the British guy in Afghanistan would only open fire once the enemy had opened fire. He would probably have intelligence that guy is a known insurgent, he would probably have intercepted radio communications to say that they will open fire at any moment, however the British guy under rules of engage my will still wait to be fired upon. That's the difference.
Also if any of you have been to afghan and heard any locals say the British are doing a bad job then maybe I will listen, however every afghan I meet said they were happy with us, especially in the last 5 years were there's been a lot more softly softly approach.
Remember most of the guys that are killing and dieing fighting insurgents are not british/American or any other isaf forces but young afghans, they are not fighting for our oil rights or any other horsecr@p you want to come up with they are trying to defend their country against people that are happy to kill children, women and anybody that disaagrees with them.
Fair play to them and fair play to any British guy who had given their life, legs, arms etc. Thank good there's people like them rather than half the creatures on here!
Well said....
[quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: The difference is the British guy in Afghanistan would only open fire once the enemy had opened fire. He would probably have intelligence that guy is a known insurgent, he would probably have intercepted radio communications to say that they will open fire at any moment, however the British guy under rules of engage my will still wait to be fired upon. That's the difference. Also if any of you have been to afghan and heard any locals say the British are doing a bad job then maybe I will listen, however every afghan I meet said they were happy with us, especially in the last 5 years were there's been a lot more softly softly approach. Remember most of the guys that are killing and dieing fighting insurgents are not british/American or any other isaf forces but young afghans, they are not fighting for our oil rights or any other horsecr@p you want to come up with they are trying to defend their country against people that are happy to kill children, women and anybody that disaagrees with them. Fair play to them and fair play to any British guy who had given their life, legs, arms etc. Thank good there's people like them rather than half the creatures on here![/p][/quote]Well said.... Catchedicam
  • Score: 5

7:55pm Fri 16 May 14

Josephine1 says...

Helicopters been flying around all day today again. Gazette report said the exercise would finish yesterday. Where did the misinformation come from?
Helicopters been flying around all day today again. Gazette report said the exercise would finish yesterday. Where did the misinformation come from? Josephine1
  • Score: 0

7:35am Sat 17 May 14

stevedawson says...

Some people need a humour implant.surely your not all sad and wrinkly.
Some people need a humour implant.surely your not all sad and wrinkly. stevedawson
  • Score: 1

11:49am Sat 17 May 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Josephine1 wrote:
Helicopters been flying around all day today again. Gazette report said the exercise would finish yesterday. Where did the misinformation come from?
So they overran the training. Boo hoo.
[quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: Helicopters been flying around all day today again. Gazette report said the exercise would finish yesterday. Where did the misinformation come from?[/p][/quote]So they overran the training. Boo hoo. Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 5

1:03pm Sat 17 May 14

oOI Daza IOo says...

Half the people on here should bloody try being a soldier for a day, complaining about noise from a helicopter? Try grenade exlosions and gunfire.. Those Apaches can't even be heard over the sound of those things..
Half the people on here should bloody try being a soldier for a day, complaining about noise from a helicopter? Try grenade exlosions and gunfire.. Those Apaches can't even be heard over the sound of those things.. oOI Daza IOo
  • Score: 4

8:24am Mon 19 May 14

Rhinestone Cowboy* says...

oOI Daza IOo wrote:
Half the people on here should bloody try being a soldier for a day, complaining about noise from a helicopter? Try grenade exlosions and gunfire.. Those Apaches can't even be heard over the sound of those things..
Ive been there friend so have a lot of my brothers...until the end.
[quote][p][bold]oOI Daza IOo[/bold] wrote: Half the people on here should bloody try being a soldier for a day, complaining about noise from a helicopter? Try grenade exlosions and gunfire.. Those Apaches can't even be heard over the sound of those things..[/p][/quote]Ive been there friend so have a lot of my brothers...until the end. Rhinestone Cowboy*
  • Score: -1

8:27am Mon 19 May 14

Rhinestone Cowboy* says...

Boris wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
Josephine1 wrote:
I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?
This is extremely ungrateful, quite nasty and very NIMBY, are you sure you do not come from Ipswich road?
One of those lads comes from Colchester and they fly around paying their respects to all serviceman past and present, Air Power has always been a moral boost. When our chaps are bunkered down in a fire fight, there is never a more welcoming sight than Air Cover.
With a big sigh, I say you are entitled to your opinion along with everyone else, we may not agree with you.
AVPG:
Ipswich Road? What have you got against the denizens of that area? She has said she lives in Layer-de-la-Haye, which is where Abberton Reservoir is. I deplore her moaning, but I don't see why you should associate her with an area of town that is not hers.
Kentucky Southern fried Chicken Man.
Get a life !
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Josephine1[/bold] wrote: I live near Abberton Reservoir and we seem to be getting more and more noise and nuisance from helicopters and light aircraft of all sorts. The comment by the MOD “Every effort is made to minimise disruption to the local community by using open areas and crews are briefed to avoid built-up areas where possible" is clearly just not true. The helicopters have been flying over Layer de la Haye, which is not an "open area" all day. We had a similar week long exercise two years ago and, in my humble opinion, this is just not acceptable. I appreciate they have to exercise somewhere, but why so much over one area?[/p][/quote]This is extremely ungrateful, quite nasty and very NIMBY, are you sure you do not come from Ipswich road? One of those lads comes from Colchester and they fly around paying their respects to all serviceman past and present, Air Power has always been a moral boost. When our chaps are bunkered down in a fire fight, there is never a more welcoming sight than Air Cover. With a big sigh, I say you are entitled to your opinion along with everyone else, we may not agree with you. AVPG:[/p][/quote]Ipswich Road? What have you got against the denizens of that area? She has said she lives in Layer-de-la-Haye, which is where Abberton Reservoir is. I deplore her moaning, but I don't see why you should associate her with an area of town that is not hers.[/p][/quote]Kentucky Southern fried Chicken Man. Get a life ! Rhinestone Cowboy*
  • Score: 0

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