Fast-food restaurant's Ipswich Road plans dismissed

KFC appeal to build on the edge of Colchester dismissed

KFC appeal to build on the edge of Colchester dismissed

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PLANS for a fast-food giant to open a drive-thru restaurant on the edge of Colchester have been thrown out.

KFC had hoped to open a takeaway in Ipswich Road, next to the historic Lion and Lamb Cottage.

But when initial plans were rejected by planners in July, the company launched an appeal against the decision.

But on Friday a Government planning inspector dismissed the appeal.

Lesley Coffey said the proposal would make roads near to the proposed site dangerous and would be detrimental to the surrounding area.

Residents had strongly opposed the plans because of a likely increase in noise levels.

But the inspector said a proposed acoustic fence between the restaurant and the cottage would reduce the sound to an acceptable level.

However, she said car noise and loud voices would be noticeable to residents and would be likely to disturb neighbours, particularly late at night and at weekends.

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6:06pm Fri 9 May 14

angryman!!! says...

If they want to be in this area why not go to the no garage in a12 will get skit more passing trade or near the Easter park / woods development near the stadium both are close to this but non residential would get as much passing trade and would be packed out on match days.
If they want to be in this area why not go to the no garage in a12 will get skit more passing trade or near the Easter park / woods development near the stadium both are close to this but non residential would get as much passing trade and would be packed out on match days. angryman!!!
  • Score: -3

6:53pm Fri 9 May 14

The-Pitts says...

It was par for the course and the usual Teflonintus manifesting yet again. Good old fashion Nimby's, sticking the old carrot cruncher boot in.
Not to worry, kentucky will be welcome at Tollgate with open arms. The High Court action will be giving poor old Andrew Weavers a real headache God Bless him. He is one of the more respected ones in the Borough. I hope the Council looses and is subsequently reported to The Audit Commission. Who will be paying for the defence and where will the money be coming from?
It was par for the course and the usual Teflonintus manifesting yet again. Good old fashion Nimby's, sticking the old carrot cruncher boot in. Not to worry, kentucky will be welcome at Tollgate with open arms. The High Court action will be giving poor old Andrew Weavers a real headache God Bless him. He is one of the more respected ones in the Borough. I hope the Council looses and is subsequently reported to The Audit Commission. Who will be paying for the defence and where will the money be coming from? The-Pitts
  • Score: 11

7:18pm Fri 9 May 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

It's this bit I have a problem with.
"She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre"

That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.
It's this bit I have a problem with. "She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre" That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 16

8:26pm Fri 9 May 14

stevedawson says...

Come over to tolgate side of town.
Come over to tolgate side of town. stevedawson
  • Score: 0

9:35pm Fri 9 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

stevedawson wrote:
Come over to tolgate side of town.
Two L's in Tollgate the same as Two L's in Spelling. There also should have been a "The" in between To and Tollgate:
AVPG.
[quote][p][bold]stevedawson[/bold] wrote: Come over to tolgate side of town.[/p][/quote]Two L's in Tollgate the same as Two L's in Spelling. There also should have been a "The" in between To and Tollgate: AVPG. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -8

9:52pm Fri 9 May 14

angryman!!! says...

Tollgate would be a good location for KFC or another fast food as would the Bp garage on the a12. However as I often already spend lots if time stuck in traffic at that part of Ipswich rd I think turning it down was a good idea.
Tollgate would be a good location for KFC or another fast food as would the Bp garage on the a12. However as I often already spend lots if time stuck in traffic at that part of Ipswich rd I think turning it down was a good idea. angryman!!!
  • Score: 4

9:53pm Fri 9 May 14

rhetoric says...

Just want to say, a victory for the private householder who would like some peace, quiet and a clean roadway/verges.
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One less unhealthy, unappetising food outlet and I hope the appeal etc falls down a deep hole.
Just want to say, a victory for the private householder who would like some peace, quiet and a clean roadway/verges. . One less unhealthy, unappetising food outlet and I hope the appeal etc falls down a deep hole. rhetoric
  • Score: -19

10:42pm Fri 9 May 14

Oliver Guiness says...

The-Pitts wrote:
It was par for the course and the usual Teflonintus manifesting yet again. Good old fashion Nimby's, sticking the old carrot cruncher boot in.
Not to worry, kentucky will be welcome at Tollgate with open arms. The High Court action will be giving poor old Andrew Weavers a real headache God Bless him. He is one of the more respected ones in the Borough. I hope the Council looses and is subsequently reported to The Audit Commission. Who will be paying for the defence and where will the money be coming from?
As long you know what you are talking about. Weaver's works for Colchester borough council and this land is in tendering. Whoops.
[quote][p][bold]The-Pitts[/bold] wrote: It was par for the course and the usual Teflonintus manifesting yet again. Good old fashion Nimby's, sticking the old carrot cruncher boot in. Not to worry, kentucky will be welcome at Tollgate with open arms. The High Court action will be giving poor old Andrew Weavers a real headache God Bless him. He is one of the more respected ones in the Borough. I hope the Council looses and is subsequently reported to The Audit Commission. Who will be paying for the defence and where will the money be coming from?[/p][/quote]As long you know what you are talking about. Weaver's works for Colchester borough council and this land is in tendering. Whoops. Oliver Guiness
  • Score: -1

8:50am Sat 10 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Oliver Guiness wrote:
The-Pitts wrote:
It was par for the course and the usual Teflonintus manifesting yet again. Good old fashion Nimby's, sticking the old carrot cruncher boot in.
Not to worry, kentucky will be welcome at Tollgate with open arms. The High Court action will be giving poor old Andrew Weavers a real headache God Bless him. He is one of the more respected ones in the Borough. I hope the Council looses and is subsequently reported to The Audit Commission. Who will be paying for the defence and where will the money be coming from?
As long you know what you are talking about. Weaver's works for Colchester borough council and this land is in tendering. Whoops.
Yes of course Mr Guiness or is it Mr Genius?
Previous Gazette reports have stated that both the Councils where involved as the boundary line borders are somewhat close, if it is TDC they are normally a better council in dealing with problems such as this. AVPG.
[quote][p][bold]Oliver Guiness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Pitts[/bold] wrote: It was par for the course and the usual Teflonintus manifesting yet again. Good old fashion Nimby's, sticking the old carrot cruncher boot in. Not to worry, kentucky will be welcome at Tollgate with open arms. The High Court action will be giving poor old Andrew Weavers a real headache God Bless him. He is one of the more respected ones in the Borough. I hope the Council looses and is subsequently reported to The Audit Commission. Who will be paying for the defence and where will the money be coming from?[/p][/quote]As long you know what you are talking about. Weaver's works for Colchester borough council and this land is in tendering. Whoops.[/p][/quote]Yes of course Mr Guiness or is it Mr Genius? Previous Gazette reports have stated that both the Councils where involved as the boundary line borders are somewhat close, if it is TDC they are normally a better council in dealing with problems such as this. AVPG. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 3

2:37pm Sat 10 May 14

bell103 says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
It's this bit I have a problem with.
"She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre"

That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.
Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre...

I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: It's this bit I have a problem with. "She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre" That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre... I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different. bell103
  • Score: 7

2:41pm Sat 10 May 14

bell103 says...

bell103 wrote:
Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
It's this bit I have a problem with.
"She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre"

That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.
Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre...

I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.
Oh! I thought this was about the plan for one at Tollgate! Whoops... Save this quote for when they reject the Tollgate plan as well then, and just pay attention to my more general points about growth in the town!
[quote][p][bold]bell103[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: It's this bit I have a problem with. "She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre" That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre... I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.[/p][/quote]Oh! I thought this was about the plan for one at Tollgate! Whoops... Save this quote for when they reject the Tollgate plan as well then, and just pay attention to my more general points about growth in the town! bell103
  • Score: 3

4:36pm Sat 10 May 14

stewycaz says...

I'm pretty convinced that colchester council are doing enough themselves to "threaten the sustainability" of the town centre. We have three macdonalds, one of them contributes to so much traffic during the weekends on Cowdray Avenue.
I would love to see something other than Mcdonalds around the town, why not just find a place on the A12. If there is a space between that junction and the Weston Homes stadium junction, that would be perfect for a "mini service station".
I'm pretty convinced that colchester council are doing enough themselves to "threaten the sustainability" of the town centre. We have three macdonalds, one of them contributes to so much traffic during the weekends on Cowdray Avenue. I would love to see something other than Mcdonalds around the town, why not just find a place on the A12. If there is a space between that junction and the Weston Homes stadium junction, that would be perfect for a "mini service station". stewycaz
  • Score: 3

5:33pm Sat 10 May 14

Shaneblackdarkknight says...

This is screwed up ! As the fastest growing town in the uk we have the worst pokiest filthy KFC in the country , even a small town like Sudbury has a drive through , it's a joke like the authorities whom run this town ( corrupt ) and I hate chicken .
This is screwed up ! As the fastest growing town in the uk we have the worst pokiest filthy KFC in the country , even a small town like Sudbury has a drive through , it's a joke like the authorities whom run this town ( corrupt ) and I hate chicken . Shaneblackdarkknight
  • Score: 14

8:07pm Sat 10 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

Shaneblackdarkknight wrote:
This is screwed up ! As the fastest growing town in the uk we have the worst pokiest filthy KFC in the country , even a small town like Sudbury has a drive through , it's a joke like the authorities whom run this town ( corrupt ) and I hate chicken .
100% Comment.
No Taybarn's sums it up.
[quote][p][bold]Shaneblackdarkknight[/bold] wrote: This is screwed up ! As the fastest growing town in the uk we have the worst pokiest filthy KFC in the country , even a small town like Sudbury has a drive through , it's a joke like the authorities whom run this town ( corrupt ) and I hate chicken .[/p][/quote]100% Comment. No Taybarn's sums it up. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 6

8:25pm Sat 10 May 14

Fellulah69 says...

So, will the houses that are going to be built on the old Betts site not add to traffic and noise level???
So, will the houses that are going to be built on the old Betts site not add to traffic and noise level??? Fellulah69
  • Score: 9

10:05pm Sat 10 May 14

Red Tape 2 says...

Colchester needs a decent KFC - I wouldn't give my dog the muck the town centre one dishes out!
Colchester needs a decent KFC - I wouldn't give my dog the muck the town centre one dishes out! Red Tape 2
  • Score: 9

9:03am Sun 11 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box.
The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ.
Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs.
The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.
In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box. The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ. Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs. The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 6

12:44pm Sun 11 May 14

UndergroundOverground says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box.
The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ.
Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs.
The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.
Wow you mean not only did you ride a moped all the way to ipswich but then you ate some actual chicken! They should make a film of your life. Tramps, mopeds, 3 cars, fried chicken, prostitutes and paranoia I'm sure it'd be a blockbuster.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box. The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ. Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs. The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.[/p][/quote]Wow you mean not only did you ride a moped all the way to ipswich but then you ate some actual chicken! They should make a film of your life. Tramps, mopeds, 3 cars, fried chicken, prostitutes and paranoia I'm sure it'd be a blockbuster. UndergroundOverground
  • Score: -2

9:49am Mon 12 May 14

catflap1 says...

Do we really need any more of these Popinae? The food they sell is awful, the coffee worse.
Do we really need any more of these Popinae? The food they sell is awful, the coffee worse. catflap1
  • Score: 0

9:51am Mon 12 May 14

catflap1 says...

Red Tape 2 wrote:
Colchester needs a decent KFC - I wouldn't give my dog the muck the town centre one dishes out!
it's the same muck in all of them. Its not prepared there ......it's a franchise all they do is reheat it...... if you're lucky
[quote][p][bold]Red Tape 2[/bold] wrote: Colchester needs a decent KFC - I wouldn't give my dog the muck the town centre one dishes out![/p][/quote]it's the same muck in all of them. Its not prepared there ......it's a franchise all they do is reheat it...... if you're lucky catflap1
  • Score: 0

9:55am Mon 12 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

UndergroundOvergroun
d
wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box.
The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ.
Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs.
The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.
Wow you mean not only did you ride a moped all the way to ipswich but then you ate some actual chicken! They should make a film of your life. Tramps, mopeds, 3 cars, fried chicken, prostitutes and paranoia I'm sure it'd be a blockbuster.
Oh Dear Dear
Justice79
using another gazette thread handle name.
How sad you really are. You have already had one account shut down by the site administrator.
Do you not know that your I.P. Address is logged on their site?
Your last three venomed posts berating my posts, have been riddled with typo's and mistakes.
You are getting nearly as bad as me, I have an excuse I am old !
You really need to calm down?
I can recommend a good doctor and some help should you wish to continue.
Do take care. AVPG.
[quote][p][bold]UndergroundOvergroun d[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box. The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ. Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs. The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.[/p][/quote]Wow you mean not only did you ride a moped all the way to ipswich but then you ate some actual chicken! They should make a film of your life. Tramps, mopeds, 3 cars, fried chicken, prostitutes and paranoia I'm sure it'd be a blockbuster.[/p][/quote]Oh Dear Dear Justice79 using another gazette thread handle name. How sad you really are. You have already had one account shut down by the site administrator. Do you not know that your I.P. Address is logged on their site? Your last three venomed posts berating my posts, have been riddled with typo's and mistakes. You are getting nearly as bad as me, I have an excuse I am old ! You really need to calm down? I can recommend a good doctor and some help should you wish to continue. Do take care. AVPG. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 6

10:01am Mon 12 May 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

UndergroundOvergroun
d
wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box.
The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ.
Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs.
The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.
Wow you mean not only did you ride a moped all the way to ipswich but then you ate some actual chicken! They should make a film of your life. Tramps, mopeds, 3 cars, fried chicken, prostitutes and paranoia I'm sure it'd be a blockbuster.
http://www.gazette-n
ews.co.uk/news/11205
213.Donkeys_found_wa
ndering_the_A12_near
_Witham/?ref=ms
BEEN OUT FOR WALK LATELY?
[quote][p][bold]UndergroundOvergroun d[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: In 1976 we used to have to get on our mopeds and ride all the way to Ipswich to get this new american style chicken. It was the only one for miles, hordes of us in the pouring rain risking life and limb for a two piece box. The original Kentucky in Ipswich you used to be round the corner from Suffolk Police HQ. Then they opened one up in Colchester no bigger than a corner shop selling fizz bombs. The borough boundary wide is nearly 250,000 people and we have a chicken shop like a Tardis.[/p][/quote]Wow you mean not only did you ride a moped all the way to ipswich but then you ate some actual chicken! They should make a film of your life. Tramps, mopeds, 3 cars, fried chicken, prostitutes and paranoia I'm sure it'd be a blockbuster.[/p][/quote]http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/news/11205 213.Donkeys_found_wa ndering_the_A12_near _Witham/?ref=ms BEEN OUT FOR WALK LATELY? A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 5

10:56am Mon 12 May 14

Scoot says...

So the question is what sort of development do the residents want as the freeholder of the site obviously wants to build a non residential property there. Maybe a convenience store ? but guess there will be objections due to late night comings and goings and the early morning deliveries disturbing the peace of this tranquil tree lined part of Colchester (think not !). any food outlet would no doubt be met with the same objections, so until something is done it will no doubt become 'Alton Towers' to large rodents who no doubt seek their food from the bins of the pub next door.
So the question is what sort of development do the residents want as the freeholder of the site obviously wants to build a non residential property there. Maybe a convenience store ? but guess there will be objections due to late night comings and goings and the early morning deliveries disturbing the peace of this tranquil tree lined part of Colchester (think not !). any food outlet would no doubt be met with the same objections, so until something is done it will no doubt become 'Alton Towers' to large rodents who no doubt seek their food from the bins of the pub next door. Scoot
  • Score: 2

1:57pm Mon 12 May 14

julieee says...

bell103 wrote:
Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
It's this bit I have a problem with.
"She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre"

That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.
Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre...

I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.
only just missed out? did we apply?
[quote][p][bold]bell103[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: It's this bit I have a problem with. "She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre" That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre... I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.[/p][/quote]only just missed out? did we apply? julieee
  • Score: -3

10:49pm Mon 12 May 14

mattym1983 says...

Who likes kfc anyway horrid place the there are more than enouth chicken places around the town but it is about time we had a drivethro burgerking to compete with the 2 horrid macy Ds in town
Who likes kfc anyway horrid place the there are more than enouth chicken places around the town but it is about time we had a drivethro burgerking to compete with the 2 horrid macy Ds in town mattym1983
  • Score: 0

11:07pm Mon 12 May 14

mattym1983 says...

catflap1 wrote:
Red Tape 2 wrote:
Colchester needs a decent KFC - I wouldn't give my dog the muck the town centre one dishes out!
it's the same muck in all of them. Its not prepared there ......it's a franchise all they do is reheat it...... if you're lucky
All kfc's are the same if you woudnt feed ur dog the muck the current dishes out why would a second 1 in town be a good idear??? it wouldnt there right to say NO
[quote][p][bold]catflap1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Red Tape 2[/bold] wrote: Colchester needs a decent KFC - I wouldn't give my dog the muck the town centre one dishes out![/p][/quote]it's the same muck in all of them. Its not prepared there ......it's a franchise all they do is reheat it...... if you're lucky[/p][/quote]All kfc's are the same if you woudnt feed ur dog the muck the current dishes out why would a second 1 in town be a good idear??? it wouldnt there right to say NO mattym1983
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2:59pm Wed 14 May 14

stevedawson says...

1l can see it happening at tolgate in the near future so who gives a f**k about ipswich road site.
1l can see it happening at tolgate in the near future so who gives a f**k about ipswich road site. stevedawson
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5:39pm Wed 14 May 14

bell103 says...

julieee wrote:
bell103 wrote:
Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
It's this bit I have a problem with.
"She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre"

That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.
Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre...

I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.
only just missed out? did we apply?
Yes
[quote][p][bold]julieee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bell103[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: It's this bit I have a problem with. "She also said the development would threaten the sustainability of Colchester town centre" That is not justification. How many out of town McDonalds, Tesco, Sainsbury's, Costa Coffee, Argus, etc, etc are there? Also saying the roads near the site would become dangerous doesn't bear well for the Betts site housing planning application which is within a few hundred yards of the KFC site, I'm sure KFC will watch that application very closely before they submit their appeal.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. I'm sure building a whacking great big Next has done the world of good for the Town centre.... Plus a flag ship Sainsbury's store, a drive-thru Boots closing down local pharmacies, B&M with cheap everything, the list goes on about Tollgate. The fact McDonald's is there and at Cowdray as well means it's hardly justifiable to say it's threatening the Town Centre... I think people need to accept what is happening with Colchester. It is not a little town any more; we only just missed out on City status, what, last year was it? We can just leave Tollgate a big empty patch of sand or build on it giving part-time and full-time jobs to so many people. It's not like it's a huge green-belt any more. But then again I am only twenty and I suppose it is my generation of people that can accept it more because we know no different.[/p][/quote]only just missed out? did we apply?[/p][/quote]Yes bell103
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