TV show footage used in Silk Road licence review

Essex County Standard: Licence battle – Silk Road owner Osman Rasih Licence battle – Silk Road owner Osman Rasih

FOOTAGE from Channel 4 documentary Bouncers has been used by police in a bid to strip Colchester’s Silk Road bar of its licence.

Colchester Council’s licensing committee yesterday reviewed the St Botolph’s Street venue following an Essex Police request.

The police say the bar is the cause of a number of incidents, inside and in the street.

Sarah Le Fevre, the police’s legal representative, referred to 22 incidents – including serious assaults and drug use.

But Marcus Croskell, barrister for Silk Road, and its owner, Osman Rasih, argued some of the incidents could not be linked to the bar.

CCTV from the council’s cameras and clips from the documentary were used to show the door staff’s reactions to situations.

Colchester Council’s licensing committee will decided whether to take any action – which could range from a warning to revoking the licence – today or tomorrow.

Read the full story in today's Gazette.

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1:39pm Tue 29 Apr 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out.
There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it?
The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself.
You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok.
Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974.
The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places
Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE.
Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects.
This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough.
They should have sorted the Security out.
Licence No
Essex Police Yes
Silk Road Over and Out:
AVPG.
It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out. There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it? The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself. You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok. Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974. The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE. Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects. This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough. They should have sorted the Security out. Licence No Essex Police Yes Silk Road Over and Out: AVPG. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 27

1:50pm Tue 29 Apr 14

paddy16 says...

I will post a comment & wait for the armchair critics to respond (seeing as they know so much about the Colchester nightlife).
I work in the town on a regular basis, both Friday & Saturday nights, I have done this for the last 4 years and will continue to do so.
I truly believe that this has turned into a witch hunt in relation to blaming this venue & it's owners, in my role I am called to various venues and witnessed trouble in the process.
I can honestly say that in 4 years I have been called to attend Silk Road (the venue itself) about 6 times!! . We attend virtually every venue during the weekend, we witness fights on Crouch Street, Head Street , High Street, Queen Street & Vineyard Street!!
I can guarantee that at closing time at all these places a fight or argument will occur, Why are the other clubs and pubs not being hauled in front of the committee?
People will argue about the TV programme The Bouncers! you have to realise that the footage was taken over months and months, edited to create a more watchable programme.
The main bouncer was certainly out of order, I agree with that, but to Tar all the staff with the same brush is a bit unfair.
It showed T.P'S bar in Queen Street , where we also attended on many occasions for various problems, this has now closed due to financial problems , it showed also Clacton, where they have I would say more problems than Colchester.
The people that will come on here and demand it to close have absolutely no idea let alone the knowledge about this venue,or any other in town!!
I think it has more to do with the so called Queen street regeneration & to clear that end of town from Clubs and pubs, coincidence or me being a bit sceptical!!
All I can hope for is that the venue be allowed to prove to the sceptics that it is not only a clean and very up market venue, it is also very safe .
If I were a person of clubbing age I would certainly use this venue as opposed to some of the others in the town.
before I get slated I am no relation to any of the staff there, just a person standing on the outside looking in.
I will post a comment & wait for the armchair critics to respond (seeing as they know so much about the Colchester nightlife). I work in the town on a regular basis, both Friday & Saturday nights, I have done this for the last 4 years and will continue to do so. I truly believe that this has turned into a witch hunt in relation to blaming this venue & it's owners, in my role I am called to various venues and witnessed trouble in the process. I can honestly say that in 4 years I have been called to attend Silk Road (the venue itself) about 6 times!! . We attend virtually every venue during the weekend, we witness fights on Crouch Street, Head Street , High Street, Queen Street & Vineyard Street!! I can guarantee that at closing time at all these places a fight or argument will occur, Why are the other clubs and pubs not being hauled in front of the committee? People will argue about the TV programme The Bouncers! you have to realise that the footage was taken over months and months, edited to create a more watchable programme. The main bouncer was certainly out of order, I agree with that, but to Tar all the staff with the same brush is a bit unfair. It showed T.P'S bar in Queen Street , where we also attended on many occasions for various problems, this has now closed due to financial problems , it showed also Clacton, where they have I would say more problems than Colchester. The people that will come on here and demand it to close have absolutely no idea let alone the knowledge about this venue,or any other in town!! I think it has more to do with the so called Queen street regeneration & to clear that end of town from Clubs and pubs, coincidence or me being a bit sceptical!! All I can hope for is that the venue be allowed to prove to the sceptics that it is not only a clean and very up market venue, it is also very safe . If I were a person of clubbing age I would certainly use this venue as opposed to some of the others in the town. before I get slated I am no relation to any of the staff there, just a person standing on the outside looking in. paddy16
  • Score: -16

2:09pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Copford says...

Those who go into town rightly expect the police to help ensure they can have a safe and enjoyable evening. If their recommendation is that Colchester would be a better, safer place in the evening if this place lost it's licence then I hope their views are given a lot of weight.
Those who go into town rightly expect the police to help ensure they can have a safe and enjoyable evening. If their recommendation is that Colchester would be a better, safer place in the evening if this place lost it's licence then I hope their views are given a lot of weight. Copford
  • Score: 30

2:29pm Tue 29 Apr 14

franticmum says...

I don't think this bar is any worse than any other, unfortunately the combination of excess alcohol and testosterone is always going to have potential for violence but this can happen anywhere. Certainly one of the "door staff" was deliberately provocative and perhaps needs to lose his licence!!
I don't think this bar is any worse than any other, unfortunately the combination of excess alcohol and testosterone is always going to have potential for violence but this can happen anywhere. Certainly one of the "door staff" was deliberately provocative and perhaps needs to lose his licence!! franticmum
  • Score: 3

2:34pm Tue 29 Apr 14

paddy16 says...

Copford wrote:
Those who go into town rightly expect the police to help ensure they can have a safe and enjoyable evening. If their recommendation is that Colchester would be a better, safer place in the evening if this place lost it's licence then I hope their views are given a lot of weight.
I fully respect your views & agree that going into any town should be trouble free, sadly the days of leaving your patio doors and cars unlocked are sadly gone.
Colchester is a safe place, as I said I work many weekends and see more things that I care to see, but it is the sign of the times, we will never get the days back that we all long for.
Putting the blame on a venue that happens to be on a street with dozens of food outlets open until 4 am, will always be a flashpoint for some of the idiots that decide they want to fight over a taxi or a girl, can't really be all down to one venue.
Doorstaff do have a duty of care to there customers, but where does it stop, the fights that happen in queen street are usually outside the food outlets, a good 70 meters away from there door, but unlike the TV footage they do actually step in and stop it.
I am from the old Windmill days , there were fights and mass brawls there , just like today , so certain things will never change.
Unless you ban all pubs & clubs we will always have problems, but that's not going to happen is it !!
[quote][p][bold]Copford[/bold] wrote: Those who go into town rightly expect the police to help ensure they can have a safe and enjoyable evening. If their recommendation is that Colchester would be a better, safer place in the evening if this place lost it's licence then I hope their views are given a lot of weight.[/p][/quote]I fully respect your views & agree that going into any town should be trouble free, sadly the days of leaving your patio doors and cars unlocked are sadly gone. Colchester is a safe place, as I said I work many weekends and see more things that I care to see, but it is the sign of the times, we will never get the days back that we all long for. Putting the blame on a venue that happens to be on a street with dozens of food outlets open until 4 am, will always be a flashpoint for some of the idiots that decide they want to fight over a taxi or a girl, can't really be all down to one venue. Doorstaff do have a duty of care to there customers, but where does it stop, the fights that happen in queen street are usually outside the food outlets, a good 70 meters away from there door, but unlike the TV footage they do actually step in and stop it. I am from the old Windmill days , there were fights and mass brawls there , just like today , so certain things will never change. Unless you ban all pubs & clubs we will always have problems, but that's not going to happen is it !! paddy16
  • Score: -1

2:41pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Copford says...

paddy16 wrote:
Copford wrote:
Those who go into town rightly expect the police to help ensure they can have a safe and enjoyable evening. If their recommendation is that Colchester would be a better, safer place in the evening if this place lost it's licence then I hope their views are given a lot of weight.
I fully respect your views & agree that going into any town should be trouble free, sadly the days of leaving your patio doors and cars unlocked are sadly gone.
Colchester is a safe place, as I said I work many weekends and see more things that I care to see, but it is the sign of the times, we will never get the days back that we all long for.
Putting the blame on a venue that happens to be on a street with dozens of food outlets open until 4 am, will always be a flashpoint for some of the idiots that decide they want to fight over a taxi or a girl, can't really be all down to one venue.
Doorstaff do have a duty of care to there customers, but where does it stop, the fights that happen in queen street are usually outside the food outlets, a good 70 meters away from there door, but unlike the TV footage they do actually step in and stop it.
I am from the old Windmill days , there were fights and mass brawls there , just like today , so certain things will never change.
Unless you ban all pubs & clubs we will always have problems, but that's not going to happen is it !!
The police haven't asked for the licence of every bar & club in the town to be shut down. Evidently they consider this place is run in such a way that they shouldn't have a licence.

Colchester, like every town, has always had licensed venues that attract troublemakers and/or are badly managed. It's the responsibility of those issuing the licences to ensure that they are forced to cease trading.
[quote][p][bold]paddy16[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Copford[/bold] wrote: Those who go into town rightly expect the police to help ensure they can have a safe and enjoyable evening. If their recommendation is that Colchester would be a better, safer place in the evening if this place lost it's licence then I hope their views are given a lot of weight.[/p][/quote]I fully respect your views & agree that going into any town should be trouble free, sadly the days of leaving your patio doors and cars unlocked are sadly gone. Colchester is a safe place, as I said I work many weekends and see more things that I care to see, but it is the sign of the times, we will never get the days back that we all long for. Putting the blame on a venue that happens to be on a street with dozens of food outlets open until 4 am, will always be a flashpoint for some of the idiots that decide they want to fight over a taxi or a girl, can't really be all down to one venue. Doorstaff do have a duty of care to there customers, but where does it stop, the fights that happen in queen street are usually outside the food outlets, a good 70 meters away from there door, but unlike the TV footage they do actually step in and stop it. I am from the old Windmill days , there were fights and mass brawls there , just like today , so certain things will never change. Unless you ban all pubs & clubs we will always have problems, but that's not going to happen is it !![/p][/quote]The police haven't asked for the licence of every bar & club in the town to be shut down. Evidently they consider this place is run in such a way that they shouldn't have a licence. Colchester, like every town, has always had licensed venues that attract troublemakers and/or are badly managed. It's the responsibility of those issuing the licences to ensure that they are forced to cease trading. Copford
  • Score: -2

2:53pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Scoot says...

To stop the trouble in the town centre at night action needs to be taken. Firstly all the places that have 'problems' should be monitored, the evidence collected and their licences revoked (not just a slap on the wrist).
Secondly, rather than making a big thing out of 'super strength' beers being taken off the shelves they should actually target the booze that the youngsters get tanked up on before they go out. 'Super strength' beers are not the 'trendy' thing to consume. CBC have like the Council bloke from Chelmsford gone for the 'soft' target of the homeless and the alcoholics who scrape enough together to buy a few cans of super strength lager and got the shopkeepers (who most likely don't like someone who hasn't washed for a few days stinking of stale booze like an insurance broker on the 17:50 after a long lunch frequenting their establishments). But if either Councils had B*lls and wanted to stop the anti social behaviour on a Friday and Saturday night as well as clogging up the A&E departments they would get the shopkeepers to not sell Vodka, Tequila, Jagermeister, etc etc to the under 30's and get the clubs and pubs to stop doing deals on 'shots'.
To stop the trouble in the town centre at night action needs to be taken. Firstly all the places that have 'problems' should be monitored, the evidence collected and their licences revoked (not just a slap on the wrist). Secondly, rather than making a big thing out of 'super strength' beers being taken off the shelves they should actually target the booze that the youngsters get tanked up on before they go out. 'Super strength' beers are not the 'trendy' thing to consume. CBC have like the Council bloke from Chelmsford gone for the 'soft' target of the homeless and the alcoholics who scrape enough together to buy a few cans of super strength lager and got the shopkeepers (who most likely don't like someone who hasn't washed for a few days stinking of stale booze like an insurance broker on the 17:50 after a long lunch frequenting their establishments). But if either Councils had B*lls and wanted to stop the anti social behaviour on a Friday and Saturday night as well as clogging up the A&E departments they would get the shopkeepers to not sell Vodka, Tequila, Jagermeister, etc etc to the under 30's and get the clubs and pubs to stop doing deals on 'shots'. Scoot
  • Score: -4

3:56pm Tue 29 Apr 14

hazardous says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out.
There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it?
The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself.
You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok.
Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974.
The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places
Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE.
Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects.
This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough.
They should have sorted the Security out.
Licence No
Essex Police Yes
Silk Road Over and Out:
AVPG.
you obviously do not know the actual meaning of the word classy and seem to have much knowledge of the Elysium group projects need i say anymore.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out. There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it? The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself. You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok. Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974. The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE. Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects. This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough. They should have sorted the Security out. Licence No Essex Police Yes Silk Road Over and Out: AVPG.[/p][/quote]you obviously do not know the actual meaning of the word classy and seem to have much knowledge of the Elysium group projects need i say anymore. hazardous
  • Score: -7

4:09pm Tue 29 Apr 14

hazardous says...

Scoot wrote:
To stop the trouble in the town centre at night action needs to be taken. Firstly all the places that have 'problems' should be monitored, the evidence collected and their licences revoked (not just a slap on the wrist).
Secondly, rather than making a big thing out of 'super strength' beers being taken off the shelves they should actually target the booze that the youngsters get tanked up on before they go out. 'Super strength' beers are not the 'trendy' thing to consume. CBC have like the Council bloke from Chelmsford gone for the 'soft' target of the homeless and the alcoholics who scrape enough together to buy a few cans of super strength lager and got the shopkeepers (who most likely don't like someone who hasn't washed for a few days stinking of stale booze like an insurance broker on the 17:50 after a long lunch frequenting their establishments). But if either Councils had B*lls and wanted to stop the anti social behaviour on a Friday and Saturday night as well as clogging up the A&E departments they would get the shopkeepers to not sell Vodka, Tequila, Jagermeister, etc etc to the under 30's and get the clubs and pubs to stop doing deals on 'shots'.
scott good comments i think but surely if that is the case then all venues need to be looked at drink deals are i agree a massive contributor to problems but i find that its the bigger venues in this town are gulity of attributing to the sale of cheap drinks silk raod has come a long way in the last year its a classy venue and the place has a great atmosphere shame about its location i am a regular in there in the last few months and have found it to be safe and sound all this talk about drugs you do not see people wondering around chins hanging off there faces it really is a shame that certain individulas still have this view on silk road i actually feel for the people that work so hard in there to make sure peopel have a great night and sincerely wish them the best of luck it is in my view the best nightlife venue this town has.
[quote][p][bold]Scoot[/bold] wrote: To stop the trouble in the town centre at night action needs to be taken. Firstly all the places that have 'problems' should be monitored, the evidence collected and their licences revoked (not just a slap on the wrist). Secondly, rather than making a big thing out of 'super strength' beers being taken off the shelves they should actually target the booze that the youngsters get tanked up on before they go out. 'Super strength' beers are not the 'trendy' thing to consume. CBC have like the Council bloke from Chelmsford gone for the 'soft' target of the homeless and the alcoholics who scrape enough together to buy a few cans of super strength lager and got the shopkeepers (who most likely don't like someone who hasn't washed for a few days stinking of stale booze like an insurance broker on the 17:50 after a long lunch frequenting their establishments). But if either Councils had B*lls and wanted to stop the anti social behaviour on a Friday and Saturday night as well as clogging up the A&E departments they would get the shopkeepers to not sell Vodka, Tequila, Jagermeister, etc etc to the under 30's and get the clubs and pubs to stop doing deals on 'shots'.[/p][/quote]scott good comments i think but surely if that is the case then all venues need to be looked at drink deals are i agree a massive contributor to problems but i find that its the bigger venues in this town are gulity of attributing to the sale of cheap drinks silk raod has come a long way in the last year its a classy venue and the place has a great atmosphere shame about its location i am a regular in there in the last few months and have found it to be safe and sound all this talk about drugs you do not see people wondering around chins hanging off there faces it really is a shame that certain individulas still have this view on silk road i actually feel for the people that work so hard in there to make sure peopel have a great night and sincerely wish them the best of luck it is in my view the best nightlife venue this town has. hazardous
  • Score: -4

4:17pm Tue 29 Apr 14

hazardous says...

paddy16 wrote:
I will post a comment & wait for the armchair critics to respond (seeing as they know so much about the Colchester nightlife).
I work in the town on a regular basis, both Friday & Saturday nights, I have done this for the last 4 years and will continue to do so.
I truly believe that this has turned into a witch hunt in relation to blaming this venue & it's owners, in my role I am called to various venues and witnessed trouble in the process.
I can honestly say that in 4 years I have been called to attend Silk Road (the venue itself) about 6 times!! . We attend virtually every venue during the weekend, we witness fights on Crouch Street, Head Street , High Street, Queen Street & Vineyard Street!!
I can guarantee that at closing time at all these places a fight or argument will occur, Why are the other clubs and pubs not being hauled in front of the committee?
People will argue about the TV programme The Bouncers! you have to realise that the footage was taken over months and months, edited to create a more watchable programme.
The main bouncer was certainly out of order, I agree with that, but to Tar all the staff with the same brush is a bit unfair.
It showed T.P'S bar in Queen Street , where we also attended on many occasions for various problems, this has now closed due to financial problems , it showed also Clacton, where they have I would say more problems than Colchester.
The people that will come on here and demand it to close have absolutely no idea let alone the knowledge about this venue,or any other in town!!
I think it has more to do with the so called Queen street regeneration & to clear that end of town from Clubs and pubs, coincidence or me being a bit sceptical!!
All I can hope for is that the venue be allowed to prove to the sceptics that it is not only a clean and very up market venue, it is also very safe .
If I were a person of clubbing age I would certainly use this venue as opposed to some of the others in the town.
before I get slated I am no relation to any of the staff there, just a person standing on the outside looking in.
paddy shame i can't tell who you actually are on here but great comments you sound like somebody who is working the night time economy and goes round the venues doing checks maybe you need to put your remarks forward to the right persons in aid of silk road.
[quote][p][bold]paddy16[/bold] wrote: I will post a comment & wait for the armchair critics to respond (seeing as they know so much about the Colchester nightlife). I work in the town on a regular basis, both Friday & Saturday nights, I have done this for the last 4 years and will continue to do so. I truly believe that this has turned into a witch hunt in relation to blaming this venue & it's owners, in my role I am called to various venues and witnessed trouble in the process. I can honestly say that in 4 years I have been called to attend Silk Road (the venue itself) about 6 times!! . We attend virtually every venue during the weekend, we witness fights on Crouch Street, Head Street , High Street, Queen Street & Vineyard Street!! I can guarantee that at closing time at all these places a fight or argument will occur, Why are the other clubs and pubs not being hauled in front of the committee? People will argue about the TV programme The Bouncers! you have to realise that the footage was taken over months and months, edited to create a more watchable programme. The main bouncer was certainly out of order, I agree with that, but to Tar all the staff with the same brush is a bit unfair. It showed T.P'S bar in Queen Street , where we also attended on many occasions for various problems, this has now closed due to financial problems , it showed also Clacton, where they have I would say more problems than Colchester. The people that will come on here and demand it to close have absolutely no idea let alone the knowledge about this venue,or any other in town!! I think it has more to do with the so called Queen street regeneration & to clear that end of town from Clubs and pubs, coincidence or me being a bit sceptical!! All I can hope for is that the venue be allowed to prove to the sceptics that it is not only a clean and very up market venue, it is also very safe . If I were a person of clubbing age I would certainly use this venue as opposed to some of the others in the town. before I get slated I am no relation to any of the staff there, just a person standing on the outside looking in.[/p][/quote]paddy shame i can't tell who you actually are on here but great comments you sound like somebody who is working the night time economy and goes round the venues doing checks maybe you need to put your remarks forward to the right persons in aid of silk road. hazardous
  • Score: -9

5:16pm Tue 29 Apr 14

paddy16 says...

hazardous wrote:
paddy16 wrote:
I will post a comment & wait for the armchair critics to respond (seeing as they know so much about the Colchester nightlife).
I work in the town on a regular basis, both Friday & Saturday nights, I have done this for the last 4 years and will continue to do so.
I truly believe that this has turned into a witch hunt in relation to blaming this venue & it's owners, in my role I am called to various venues and witnessed trouble in the process.
I can honestly say that in 4 years I have been called to attend Silk Road (the venue itself) about 6 times!! . We attend virtually every venue during the weekend, we witness fights on Crouch Street, Head Street , High Street, Queen Street & Vineyard Street!!
I can guarantee that at closing time at all these places a fight or argument will occur, Why are the other clubs and pubs not being hauled in front of the committee?
People will argue about the TV programme The Bouncers! you have to realise that the footage was taken over months and months, edited to create a more watchable programme.
The main bouncer was certainly out of order, I agree with that, but to Tar all the staff with the same brush is a bit unfair.
It showed T.P'S bar in Queen Street , where we also attended on many occasions for various problems, this has now closed due to financial problems , it showed also Clacton, where they have I would say more problems than Colchester.
The people that will come on here and demand it to close have absolutely no idea let alone the knowledge about this venue,or any other in town!!
I think it has more to do with the so called Queen street regeneration & to clear that end of town from Clubs and pubs, coincidence or me being a bit sceptical!!
All I can hope for is that the venue be allowed to prove to the sceptics that it is not only a clean and very up market venue, it is also very safe .
If I were a person of clubbing age I would certainly use this venue as opposed to some of the others in the town.
before I get slated I am no relation to any of the staff there, just a person standing on the outside looking in.
paddy shame i can't tell who you actually are on here but great comments you sound like somebody who is working the night time economy and goes round the venues doing checks maybe you need to put your remarks forward to the right persons in aid of silk road.
@hazardous
I wish I could say what I see and know to the powers that be, but in doing that I would I feel be asked to leave the job I love doing. I can Honestly say that in my 4 years Silk Road is not The drug den or battle ground it is portrayed to be.
If the tribunal feels that they want to revoke his licence then I would write directly to them, as it would in my opinion be very unjust.
There will always be people for and against Silk Road, that will never change and me declaring what I do or who I am will have no bearing on the outcome.
Personally I think that Silk Road should be given time to prove to the Police that it is a better venue than they believe, if they get the chance to then all the people that seem to feel that it not a classy venue be invited to the club and have a guided tour!! They may be surprised how well run & clean it actually is.
Good luck Silk Road I hope that the tribunal goes in your favour.
[quote][p][bold]hazardous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]paddy16[/bold] wrote: I will post a comment & wait for the armchair critics to respond (seeing as they know so much about the Colchester nightlife). I work in the town on a regular basis, both Friday & Saturday nights, I have done this for the last 4 years and will continue to do so. I truly believe that this has turned into a witch hunt in relation to blaming this venue & it's owners, in my role I am called to various venues and witnessed trouble in the process. I can honestly say that in 4 years I have been called to attend Silk Road (the venue itself) about 6 times!! . We attend virtually every venue during the weekend, we witness fights on Crouch Street, Head Street , High Street, Queen Street & Vineyard Street!! I can guarantee that at closing time at all these places a fight or argument will occur, Why are the other clubs and pubs not being hauled in front of the committee? People will argue about the TV programme The Bouncers! you have to realise that the footage was taken over months and months, edited to create a more watchable programme. The main bouncer was certainly out of order, I agree with that, but to Tar all the staff with the same brush is a bit unfair. It showed T.P'S bar in Queen Street , where we also attended on many occasions for various problems, this has now closed due to financial problems , it showed also Clacton, where they have I would say more problems than Colchester. The people that will come on here and demand it to close have absolutely no idea let alone the knowledge about this venue,or any other in town!! I think it has more to do with the so called Queen street regeneration & to clear that end of town from Clubs and pubs, coincidence or me being a bit sceptical!! All I can hope for is that the venue be allowed to prove to the sceptics that it is not only a clean and very up market venue, it is also very safe . If I were a person of clubbing age I would certainly use this venue as opposed to some of the others in the town. before I get slated I am no relation to any of the staff there, just a person standing on the outside looking in.[/p][/quote]paddy shame i can't tell who you actually are on here but great comments you sound like somebody who is working the night time economy and goes round the venues doing checks maybe you need to put your remarks forward to the right persons in aid of silk road.[/p][/quote]@hazardous I wish I could say what I see and know to the powers that be, but in doing that I would I feel be asked to leave the job I love doing. I can Honestly say that in my 4 years Silk Road is not The drug den or battle ground it is portrayed to be. If the tribunal feels that they want to revoke his licence then I would write directly to them, as it would in my opinion be very unjust. There will always be people for and against Silk Road, that will never change and me declaring what I do or who I am will have no bearing on the outcome. Personally I think that Silk Road should be given time to prove to the Police that it is a better venue than they believe, if they get the chance to then all the people that seem to feel that it not a classy venue be invited to the club and have a guided tour!! They may be surprised how well run & clean it actually is. Good luck Silk Road I hope that the tribunal goes in your favour. paddy16
  • Score: -6

5:27pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Scoot says...

Hazardous - exactly what I was getting at. Ok the TV prog portrayed Silk Road in a bad light and thats probably why the police focused on it. BUT the police need to look carefully at other venues in the town and treat them the same if they act in a similar manner.
Hazardous - exactly what I was getting at. Ok the TV prog portrayed Silk Road in a bad light and thats probably why the police focused on it. BUT the police need to look carefully at other venues in the town and treat them the same if they act in a similar manner. Scoot
  • Score: -9

6:35pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Nolovelost says...

hazardous wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out.
There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it?
The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself.
You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok.
Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974.
The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places
Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE.
Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects.
This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough.
They should have sorted the Security out.
Licence No
Essex Police Yes
Silk Road Over and Out:
AVPG.
you obviously do not know the actual meaning of the word classy and seem to have much knowledge of the Elysium group projects need i say anymore.
How can you compare a murder in the town to the trouble in queen street not Silk Road! I think maybe you should walk around the town at closing time including the classy area like cube.. I live near by and by no means is it a safe place to walk at 2/3 am it's awful.
[quote][p][bold]hazardous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out. There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it? The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself. You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok. Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974. The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE. Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects. This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough. They should have sorted the Security out. Licence No Essex Police Yes Silk Road Over and Out: AVPG.[/p][/quote]you obviously do not know the actual meaning of the word classy and seem to have much knowledge of the Elysium group projects need i say anymore.[/p][/quote]How can you compare a murder in the town to the trouble in queen street not Silk Road! I think maybe you should walk around the town at closing time including the classy area like cube.. I live near by and by no means is it a safe place to walk at 2/3 am it's awful. Nolovelost
  • Score: -5

6:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Nolovelost says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out.
There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it?
The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself.
You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok.
Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974.
The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places
Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE.
Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects.
This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough.
They should have sorted the Security out.
Licence No
Essex Police Yes
Silk Road Over and Out:
AVPG.
Do you actually know anything about the towns nightlife?? You talk about wanting a 'made in Chelsea' type wanted in the area?! have you ever walked down crouch st at 2/3am at kicking out time? I live very near and it's not a safe area at all it's like a wannabe Towie royal rumble. Also how can you compare a murder to the article you clearly are out of touch with the town.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out. There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it? The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself. You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok. Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974. The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE. Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects. This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough. They should have sorted the Security out. Licence No Essex Police Yes Silk Road Over and Out: AVPG.[/p][/quote]Do you actually know anything about the towns nightlife?? You talk about wanting a 'made in Chelsea' type wanted in the area?! have you ever walked down crouch st at 2/3am at kicking out time? I live very near and it's not a safe area at all it's like a wannabe Towie royal rumble. Also how can you compare a murder to the article you clearly are out of touch with the town. Nolovelost
  • Score: -3

7:29pm Tue 29 Apr 14

JMcK88 says...

Ive worked in several clubs in Colchester & many in the West End/Mayfair area and I can honestly say that The Silk Road is run as professionally as a club could be. The TV show bouncers didn't show the venue in good light, but it was recorded over a year and half ago - and since then the venue has had a great refit and its cliental has improved along with the whole standard of the venue. The door staff are one of the biggest positives of the club, guys (and women) who are more than capable of defusing a situation without choke slamming the customer or being over aggressive like I've seen many times in other venues. Yeah the place has had some not-so-clever doorman, where hasn't? As soon as a doorman steps out of line or does something they shouldn't (just like anyone else working in the venue), they're shown the door. Can you say other venues have this policy, Im not so sure. I think people are quick to judge but if they knew the facts and figures behind the trouble that happens in our town - and where it happens - people would give The Silk Road a lot more time! A handful of incidents that have happened at a nightclub in a year and a 1/3 is not a good enough reason to take away a mans livelihood.
Ive worked in several clubs in Colchester & many in the West End/Mayfair area and I can honestly say that The Silk Road is run as professionally as a club could be. The TV show bouncers didn't show the venue in good light, but it was recorded over a year and half ago - and since then the venue has had a great refit and its cliental has improved along with the whole standard of the venue. The door staff are one of the biggest positives of the club, guys (and women) who are more than capable of defusing a situation without choke slamming the customer or being over aggressive like I've seen many times in other venues. Yeah the place has had some not-so-clever doorman, where hasn't? As soon as a doorman steps out of line or does something they shouldn't (just like anyone else working in the venue), they're shown the door. Can you say other venues have this policy, Im not so sure. I think people are quick to judge but if they knew the facts and figures behind the trouble that happens in our town - and where it happens - people would give The Silk Road a lot more time! A handful of incidents that have happened at a nightclub in a year and a 1/3 is not a good enough reason to take away a mans livelihood. JMcK88
  • Score: -6

8:43pm Tue 29 Apr 14

mirokou says...

What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?
What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review? mirokou
  • Score: 6

8:46pm Tue 29 Apr 14

C.I.5. says...

I was a sleeping partner in the very first kebab shop in Colchester crouch street at Keyani's with John/Ayaz & His brother Ken the taxi driver, I had a minor investment in the business, that was bought from Manuel Fombidella the chef. I also ran one of the biggest door crews in the town between 1982 and 1986, 50 odd hand picked guys 20 full timers and 30 part timers. I had the best names in the business working for me and they needed no sticky badge S.I.A. tag after going on a course to show their wares and their professionalism. AVPG is fairly right in what they have said but has had quite a bit of stick from critics here. St Botolphs is not a good area and crouch street has always been crouch street. However crouch street is going to be big once the old cinema kicks in and yes this Elysium group has done a good job in crouch street and the town in general. Yes I agree we need more nicer joints we do not need places like this and don't worry I wont be getting any free drinks from Silk Road.
The door staff depicted on that show were awful I would have sacked them in a week, trained by the SIA or not. I can tell you I know every team and professional that's worked the town since 1980, so if any of you keyboard warriors want to try me on one, then go ahead be my guest. The best doorman in this team unbeaten in any confrontation and probably one of the nicest blokes to grace this town was Martin Lewis of Harwich Road: Now retired. The lads at the Windmill from Southened and Canvey including Ted:Kevin:Peter & Roy were the benchmark of how it should be done. The best club manager that ever graced our town was Dennis Cavell. I you want to learn leafs out of books, then learn your knowledge and your past before firing your guns off. The SIA ruined the trade and welshed on a lot of agreements they made with security professionals during the consultation periods. If Essex Police states this place needs to be closed, it needs to be CLOSED. You work with the POLICE not against them.
I was a sleeping partner in the very first kebab shop in Colchester crouch street at Keyani's with John/Ayaz & His brother Ken the taxi driver, I had a minor investment in the business, that was bought from Manuel Fombidella the chef. I also ran one of the biggest door crews in the town between 1982 and 1986, 50 odd hand picked guys 20 full timers and 30 part timers. I had the best names in the business working for me and they needed no sticky badge S.I.A. tag after going on a course to show their wares and their professionalism. AVPG is fairly right in what they have said but has had quite a bit of stick from critics here. St Botolphs is not a good area and crouch street has always been crouch street. However crouch street is going to be big once the old cinema kicks in and yes this Elysium group has done a good job in crouch street and the town in general. Yes I agree we need more nicer joints we do not need places like this and don't worry I wont be getting any free drinks from Silk Road. The door staff depicted on that show were awful I would have sacked them in a week, trained by the SIA or not. I can tell you I know every team and professional that's worked the town since 1980, so if any of you keyboard warriors want to try me on one, then go ahead be my guest. The best doorman in this team unbeaten in any confrontation and probably one of the nicest blokes to grace this town was Martin Lewis of Harwich Road: Now retired. The lads at the Windmill from Southened and Canvey including Ted:Kevin:Peter & Roy were the benchmark of how it should be done. The best club manager that ever graced our town was Dennis Cavell. I you want to learn leafs out of books, then learn your knowledge and your past before firing your guns off. The SIA ruined the trade and welshed on a lot of agreements they made with security professionals during the consultation periods. If Essex Police states this place needs to be closed, it needs to be CLOSED. You work with the POLICE not against them. C.I.5.
  • Score: 7

9:03pm Tue 29 Apr 14

JMcK88 says...

mirokou wrote:
What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?
Im sure all will come out after the tribunal result!
[quote][p][bold]mirokou[/bold] wrote: What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?[/p][/quote]Im sure all will come out after the tribunal result! JMcK88
  • Score: 6

9:16pm Tue 29 Apr 14

hazardous says...

JMcK88 wrote:
mirokou wrote:
What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?
Im sure all will come out after the tribunal result!
Ci5 your obviously a brave man who knows what your talking about well that's what you seem to think, Ash is an ok guy and obviously a good businessman what are you after a management job if you was that professional you wouldn't be bringing down other venues in the town get a life and stop licking butt.
[quote][p][bold]JMcK88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mirokou[/bold] wrote: What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?[/p][/quote]Im sure all will come out after the tribunal result![/p][/quote]Ci5 your obviously a brave man who knows what your talking about well that's what you seem to think, Ash is an ok guy and obviously a good businessman what are you after a management job if you was that professional you wouldn't be bringing down other venues in the town get a life and stop licking butt. hazardous
  • Score: -8

9:17pm Tue 29 Apr 14

JMcK88 says...

C.I.5. wrote:
I was a sleeping partner in the very first kebab shop in Colchester crouch street at Keyani's with John/Ayaz & His brother Ken the taxi driver, I had a minor investment in the business, that was bought from Manuel Fombidella the chef. I also ran one of the biggest door crews in the town between 1982 and 1986, 50 odd hand picked guys 20 full timers and 30 part timers. I had the best names in the business working for me and they needed no sticky badge S.I.A. tag after going on a course to show their wares and their professionalism. AVPG is fairly right in what they have said but has had quite a bit of stick from critics here. St Botolphs is not a good area and crouch street has always been crouch street. However crouch street is going to be big once the old cinema kicks in and yes this Elysium group has done a good job in crouch street and the town in general. Yes I agree we need more nicer joints we do not need places like this and don't worry I wont be getting any free drinks from Silk Road.
The door staff depicted on that show were awful I would have sacked them in a week, trained by the SIA or not. I can tell you I know every team and professional that's worked the town since 1980, so if any of you keyboard warriors want to try me on one, then go ahead be my guest. The best doorman in this team unbeaten in any confrontation and probably one of the nicest blokes to grace this town was Martin Lewis of Harwich Road: Now retired. The lads at the Windmill from Southened and Canvey including Ted:Kevin:Peter & Roy were the benchmark of how it should be done. The best club manager that ever graced our town was Dennis Cavell. I you want to learn leafs out of books, then learn your knowledge and your past before firing your guns off. The SIA ruined the trade and welshed on a lot of agreements they made with security professionals during the consultation periods. If Essex Police states this place needs to be closed, it needs to be CLOSED. You work with the POLICE not against them.
I hear what you're saying, and I agree - the doorman aren't what they used to be. I have many friends that have organised parties in the 80s and 90s so i fully understand how it was all run then. But that was then and this is now. Have you been to The Silk Road recently and experienced a night out down that end of town? If not - which is an assumption based on your comment - how can you say 'If the police say so then it must be'. You're supporting something you have no idea about just what you read in the paper - Ive seen both sides and theres a lot more information to come. The decision to shut this place would effect more lives that you think, not just the owner but hundreds of customers and dozens of employees.
[quote][p][bold]C.I.5.[/bold] wrote: I was a sleeping partner in the very first kebab shop in Colchester crouch street at Keyani's with John/Ayaz & His brother Ken the taxi driver, I had a minor investment in the business, that was bought from Manuel Fombidella the chef. I also ran one of the biggest door crews in the town between 1982 and 1986, 50 odd hand picked guys 20 full timers and 30 part timers. I had the best names in the business working for me and they needed no sticky badge S.I.A. tag after going on a course to show their wares and their professionalism. AVPG is fairly right in what they have said but has had quite a bit of stick from critics here. St Botolphs is not a good area and crouch street has always been crouch street. However crouch street is going to be big once the old cinema kicks in and yes this Elysium group has done a good job in crouch street and the town in general. Yes I agree we need more nicer joints we do not need places like this and don't worry I wont be getting any free drinks from Silk Road. The door staff depicted on that show were awful I would have sacked them in a week, trained by the SIA or not. I can tell you I know every team and professional that's worked the town since 1980, so if any of you keyboard warriors want to try me on one, then go ahead be my guest. The best doorman in this team unbeaten in any confrontation and probably one of the nicest blokes to grace this town was Martin Lewis of Harwich Road: Now retired. The lads at the Windmill from Southened and Canvey including Ted:Kevin:Peter & Roy were the benchmark of how it should be done. The best club manager that ever graced our town was Dennis Cavell. I you want to learn leafs out of books, then learn your knowledge and your past before firing your guns off. The SIA ruined the trade and welshed on a lot of agreements they made with security professionals during the consultation periods. If Essex Police states this place needs to be closed, it needs to be CLOSED. You work with the POLICE not against them.[/p][/quote]I hear what you're saying, and I agree - the doorman aren't what they used to be. I have many friends that have organised parties in the 80s and 90s so i fully understand how it was all run then. But that was then and this is now. Have you been to The Silk Road recently and experienced a night out down that end of town? If not - which is an assumption based on your comment - how can you say 'If the police say so then it must be'. You're supporting something you have no idea about just what you read in the paper - Ive seen both sides and theres a lot more information to come. The decision to shut this place would effect more lives that you think, not just the owner but hundreds of customers and dozens of employees. JMcK88
  • Score: -6

9:24pm Tue 29 Apr 14

k.briggs says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out.
There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it?
The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself.
You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok.
Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974.
The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places
Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE.
Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects.
This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough.
They should have sorted the Security out.
Licence No
Essex Police Yes
Silk Road Over and Out:
AVPG.
well if you dont like the place then mate dont go in there and dont try and make out its the bars fault that people get drunk and start fights its there fault and has nothing whatsoever to do with the bar or any bar
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: It s always the same old moans and sour grapes when you get caught out. There are claims that the TV shows edit the footage to make you look bad or silly well that would not be that hard if they were doing an article on me would it? The footage came from somewhere it just did not appear or create itself. You have customers that come in the bar drink your wares then leave the palce ans start punching 10 bells out of each other you are duty and responsible to see they are at least ok. Please Colchester council it is not often I agree with Essex Police but this area is highly dangerous at night, 3 years ago a disabled teenager had his eye gouged on the corner of priory street, that was the begining of the violent nightmares that have continued, we have a high profile single murder in the town the worst case of its type, since Kay O Conner 1974. The town does not need this type of bar or venue, we want more classy places Like they have in Chelsea not TOWIE. Colchester can become a classy environment like the Elysium group projects. This person has spent a load of money on putting two shops together tough. They should have sorted the Security out. Licence No Essex Police Yes Silk Road Over and Out: AVPG.[/p][/quote]well if you dont like the place then mate dont go in there and dont try and make out its the bars fault that people get drunk and start fights its there fault and has nothing whatsoever to do with the bar or any bar k.briggs
  • Score: -11

9:58am Wed 30 Apr 14

C.I.5. says...

hazardous wrote:
JMcK88 wrote:
mirokou wrote:
What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?
Im sure all will come out after the tribunal result!
Ci5 your obviously a brave man who knows what your talking about well that's what you seem to think, Ash is an ok guy and obviously a good businessman what are you after a management job if you was that professional you wouldn't be bringing down other venues in the town get a life and stop licking butt.
You start of with a positive remark then finish quite Hazardously.
jabbering on about this subject wont get away from the fact that there was not enough security employed on that venue.
I have been at Clubs like the windmill where coach loads of stag nighters from London turned up and caused mayhem to the 6 doorman on the job. If you think thats less scary than Silk Road be my guest.
The SIA messed the whole issue up this quango should have been the specialist industry association and encompassed loads of other professions in training people to run clubs.
AVPG is right in saying the Police have got better things to do like dealing with serial killers and unsolved murders...You lot cannot read english. That is my lot on this.
[quote][p][bold]hazardous[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JMcK88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mirokou[/bold] wrote: What are the crime figures like in Queen street since it's been under review?[/p][/quote]Im sure all will come out after the tribunal result![/p][/quote]Ci5 your obviously a brave man who knows what your talking about well that's what you seem to think, Ash is an ok guy and obviously a good businessman what are you after a management job if you was that professional you wouldn't be bringing down other venues in the town get a life and stop licking butt.[/p][/quote]You start of with a positive remark then finish quite Hazardously. jabbering on about this subject wont get away from the fact that there was not enough security employed on that venue. I have been at Clubs like the windmill where coach loads of stag nighters from London turned up and caused mayhem to the 6 doorman on the job. If you think thats less scary than Silk Road be my guest. The SIA messed the whole issue up this quango should have been the specialist industry association and encompassed loads of other professions in training people to run clubs. AVPG is right in saying the Police have got better things to do like dealing with serial killers and unsolved murders...You lot cannot read english. That is my lot on this. C.I.5.
  • Score: 9

12:26pm Wed 30 Apr 14

seikothrill says...

If Silk Road shuts it will just move the problem to elsewhere. The people who visit this place will find somewhere else to meet up
If Silk Road shuts it will just move the problem to elsewhere. The people who visit this place will find somewhere else to meet up seikothrill
  • Score: -2

8:01pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Justspeakingthetruth says...

I think 'a very private gentleman' need to remove his tounge from a
I think 'a very private gentleman' need to remove his tounge from a Justspeakingthetruth
  • Score: -4

8:12pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Justspeakingthetruth says...

I think 'a very private gentleman' needs to remove his tounge from a particular bar owners anus. Crouch street is 10 times worse and I've seen blokes hitting women etc..... The chief inspector needs to look a little harder in to this Colchester issue rather than sit on his arse watching a channel 4 documentary! The guy at silk has a ridiculous amount of CCTV which you can see when your in the venue to ensure people are caught when they commit a crime or a offence! (If however someone does commit an offence, why is it the owner that gets blamed for there actions if they've come into the venue like a lady or a gentleman?) The team of door staff are also a very good team....just because you know anyone of them could put an idiot on his arse - they claim there bullies? No, how about you just behave yourself or take yourself to a little crack den where you belong like layer cake! Oh wait - it's closed? Oh so Colchester police can get it right sometimes....
I think 'a very private gentleman' needs to remove his tounge from a particular bar owners anus. Crouch street is 10 times worse and I've seen blokes hitting women etc..... The chief inspector needs to look a little harder in to this Colchester issue rather than sit on his arse watching a channel 4 documentary! The guy at silk has a ridiculous amount of CCTV which you can see when your in the venue to ensure people are caught when they commit a crime or a offence! (If however someone does commit an offence, why is it the owner that gets blamed for there actions if they've come into the venue like a lady or a gentleman?) The team of door staff are also a very good team....just because you know anyone of them could put an idiot on his arse - they claim there bullies? No, how about you just behave yourself or take yourself to a little crack den where you belong like layer cake! Oh wait - it's closed? Oh so Colchester police can get it right sometimes.... Justspeakingthetruth
  • Score: -2

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