PM says unemployed must sign on everyday

Essex County Standard: Prime Minister David Cameron visits Essex to launch Help to Work scheme Prime Minister David Cameron visits Essex to launch Help to Work scheme

PRIME Minister David Cameron is in Colchester today to launch a Government plan to get unemployed people back to work.

The PM is launching the Help to Work scheme, which will mean job seekers would be required to visit the Job Centre everyday. 

They will also be offered employment coaching from Job Centre staff. 

He visited the Job Centre, in High Street, before touring The Gazette newsroom, in Brunel Court. 

Mr Cameron said: "A key part of our long-term economic plan is to move to full employment, making sure that everyone who can work is in work.

"We are seeing record levels of employment in Britain, as more and more people find a job, but we need to look at those who are persistently stuck on benefits.

"This scheme will provide more help than ever before, getting people into work and on the road to a more secure future."

Government figures show there are record number of people in work and long-term unemployment has fallen by 93,000 since last year. 

Read the full story in today's Gazette.

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1:44pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Monkey1980 says...

More bullying of the poor!! When your children, Mr Cameron reach work placement age, and cannot find a job despite their probable university degrees...if they are out of work for more than two years will you send them to scrub the war memorials?!
Both you and your unelected Tory Cabinet are bullies of the poor, nothing more nothing less!!
More bullying of the poor!! When your children, Mr Cameron reach work placement age, and cannot find a job despite their probable university degrees...if they are out of work for more than two years will you send them to scrub the war memorials?! Both you and your unelected Tory Cabinet are bullies of the poor, nothing more nothing less!! Monkey1980
  • Score: 3

2:08pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Mark Goacher says...

It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work. Mark Goacher
  • Score: 20

3:40pm Mon 28 Apr 14

jim_bo says...

Visiting the same job centre that is to close shortly?????

I think people who are able should work for their benefits, collecting litter, tidying places up are all commendable for the benefit of the community.

Perhaps Mr C ought to start looking at the higher income group who only want to commit a small percentage of their income in taxes. Mr Ecclestone tonight will be on Panarama allegedly owing us the tax payer £1 billion.
Visiting the same job centre that is to close shortly????? I think people who are able should work for their benefits, collecting litter, tidying places up are all commendable for the benefit of the community. Perhaps Mr C ought to start looking at the higher income group who only want to commit a small percentage of their income in taxes. Mr Ecclestone tonight will be on Panarama allegedly owing us the tax payer £1 billion. jim_bo
  • Score: 20

4:02pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Oliver Guiness says...

jim_bo wrote:
Visiting the same job centre that is to close shortly?????

I think people who are able should work for their benefits, collecting litter, tidying places up are all commendable for the benefit of the community.

Perhaps Mr C ought to start looking at the higher income group who only want to commit a small percentage of their income in taxes. Mr Ecclestone tonight will be on Panarama allegedly owing us the tax payer £1 billion.
Or just moving to another building
[quote][p][bold]jim_bo[/bold] wrote: Visiting the same job centre that is to close shortly????? I think people who are able should work for their benefits, collecting litter, tidying places up are all commendable for the benefit of the community. Perhaps Mr C ought to start looking at the higher income group who only want to commit a small percentage of their income in taxes. Mr Ecclestone tonight will be on Panarama allegedly owing us the tax payer £1 billion.[/p][/quote]Or just moving to another building Oliver Guiness
  • Score: 7

4:04pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SAndrewss says...

Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'.

I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job.

If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'. I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job. If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit. SAndrewss
  • Score: 19

4:09pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 15

4:15pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

So....Mr C...find more jobs...in the meantime...watch the crime figures rise.! Steal from the poor...and the poor will steal ! Havnt you caused enough problems already ??
So....Mr C...find more jobs...in the meantime...watch the crime figures rise.! Steal from the poor...and the poor will steal ! Havnt you caused enough problems already ?? SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 7

4:26pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

May i add....when tested / means tested for benefits....i believe you get a letter stating " this is what the law states you need to live on " ? ERM ? So many people already live with hardship....note the increase in foodbanks. This country , we are supposed to think is still GREAT Britain.......is getting worse.
May i add....when tested / means tested for benefits....i believe you get a letter stating " this is what the law states you need to live on " ? ERM ? So many people already live with hardship....note the increase in foodbanks. This country , we are supposed to think is still GREAT Britain.......is getting worse. SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 5

4:31pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SAndrewss says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
So....Mr C...find more jobs...in the meantime...watch the crime figures rise.! Steal from the poor...and the poor will steal ! Havnt you caused enough problems already ??
Spoken like a hardened Tory supporter lol.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: So....Mr C...find more jobs...in the meantime...watch the crime figures rise.! Steal from the poor...and the poor will steal ! Havnt you caused enough problems already ??[/p][/quote]Spoken like a hardened Tory supporter lol. SAndrewss
  • Score: -5

4:52pm Mon 28 Apr 14

all.talk.no.action says...

The streets will be dressed in garlands, flags and bunting, the people lining up to cheer and get a glimpse of the great man and celebrate his great ideas.
Hoorah! Hoorah!
The streets will be dressed in garlands, flags and bunting, the people lining up to cheer and get a glimpse of the great man and celebrate his great ideas. Hoorah! Hoorah! all.talk.no.action
  • Score: 0

6:04pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Jess Jephcott says...

Welcome Mr Cameron. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the £2000 that you have just given me to help me to employ people. Thanks to your government I have already taken people off benefits and put them into work, and I hope to take more on soon as our business grows. What a shame about all the nomarks that comment here? What sad lives they must lead?
Welcome Mr Cameron. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the £2000 that you have just given me to help me to employ people. Thanks to your government I have already taken people off benefits and put them into work, and I hope to take more on soon as our business grows. What a shame about all the nomarks that comment here? What sad lives they must lead? Jess Jephcott
  • Score: -16

6:13pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Colonel Kurtz says...

You can't blame the present government. The country is in better shape now than when it came in to power
You can't blame the present government. The country is in better shape now than when it came in to power Colonel Kurtz
  • Score: -4

6:13pm Mon 28 Apr 14

AngryManNewTown says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!![/p][/quote]Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 3

6:25pm Mon 28 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

AngryManNewTown wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for
Try to read.Angry..........
. " IF I WAS ".......Theres a clue there !
[quote][p][bold]AngryManNewTown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!![/p][/quote]Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for[/p][/quote]Try to read.Angry.......... . " IF I WAS ".......Theres a clue there ! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -5

6:57pm Mon 28 Apr 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

it was changed to the terminology job seekers allowance by the right wings of the red and the blue sides in a cohort agreement and passed through the government at the time;
the prime minister visiting today was not a halcyon moment for me today nor was it for many others in such a dire state of need.
i for once will leave out all the expletives and stick to the nitty gritty issues here;
a report on bbc news stated by officials at labour and the dwp that there was very little difference between the new initiatives and the older system during the trial runs. a number of charities including oxfam and the ymca have boycotted the new system in place.
we have to face the facts that there will be people in our system that are unemployable and to have them on board, would be more disruptive than productive. there are some people like myself who are or adopt a misanthrope attitude of distrust to people and life in general. i worked for myself i lead alone and there are many in this predicament.
this constant thrashing of the poor and belittling to those who cannot fend for themselves is becoming dystopia n in a world where only certain types are now allowed to live, eat and breath. we had this all back in the late 80's early 90's with the blue bloods infecting both sides of the house.
to all of you that understood and went through those dark times, four recessions for those born between 56 & 65 two large ones and two smaller ones we need to embrace the welfare state as it was before Bevin created it, i.e. the village shilling. all the poor in every village got a shilling a week to survive.
if we carry on down this road of flogging people who are on benefits in a jeremy kyle type and style of circus media exposure, then we will create a violent feral society who have nothing to live for, but will then rob and steal just to fend for themselves.
the minimum wage is derisory £240 per week before bills lives very little to improve one self.
the bitter sweet taste of a tory spoonful is made even more sour with the inability for our young to improve their lot in education, via cuts to own in favour of expansion in the selling of student places to our foreign fee paying friends.
and to the above commenter yes we are doing better, but at a very dear expense, of controlled interest rate inflation, wealth redistribution to the uber rich classes to encourage inward investment from overseas again (normally known in the city as bent money investment);
all this is achieved at a price to keep the middle English voter happy. i suppose the one good thing that will come out of this is that hyacinth bucket will invite him round for tea, white gloves included.
it was changed to the terminology job seekers allowance by the right wings of the red and the blue sides in a cohort agreement and passed through the government at the time; the prime minister visiting today was not a halcyon moment for me today nor was it for many others in such a dire state of need. i for once will leave out all the expletives and stick to the nitty gritty issues here; a report on bbc news stated by officials at labour and the dwp that there was very little difference between the new initiatives and the older system during the trial runs. a number of charities including oxfam and the ymca have boycotted the new system in place. we have to face the facts that there will be people in our system that are unemployable and to have them on board, would be more disruptive than productive. there are some people like myself who are or adopt a misanthrope attitude of distrust to people and life in general. i worked for myself i lead alone and there are many in this predicament. this constant thrashing of the poor and belittling to those who cannot fend for themselves is becoming dystopia n in a world where only certain types are now allowed to live, eat and breath. we had this all back in the late 80's early 90's with the blue bloods infecting both sides of the house. to all of you that understood and went through those dark times, four recessions for those born between 56 & 65 two large ones and two smaller ones we need to embrace the welfare state as it was before Bevin created it, i.e. the village shilling. all the poor in every village got a shilling a week to survive. if we carry on down this road of flogging people who are on benefits in a jeremy kyle type and style of circus media exposure, then we will create a violent feral society who have nothing to live for, but will then rob and steal just to fend for themselves. the minimum wage is derisory £240 per week before bills lives very little to improve one self. the bitter sweet taste of a tory spoonful is made even more sour with the inability for our young to improve their lot in education, via cuts to own in favour of expansion in the selling of student places to our foreign fee paying friends. and to the above commenter yes we are doing better, but at a very dear expense, of controlled interest rate inflation, wealth redistribution to the uber rich classes to encourage inward investment from overseas again (normally known in the city as bent money investment); all this is achieved at a price to keep the middle English voter happy. i suppose the one good thing that will come out of this is that hyacinth bucket will invite him round for tea, white gloves included. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: -2

9:18pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Assimilation says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Welcome Mr Cameron. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the £2000 that you have just given me to help me to employ people. Thanks to your government I have already taken people off benefits and put them into work, and I hope to take more on soon as our business grows. What a shame about all the nomarks that comment here? What sad lives they must lead?
Well done there sir, you will employ more people on zero hour contracts meaning they will not get paid for most of their employment time and will not be able to get unemployment benefit when there is no work because they will be employed by you with no work to offer them for most of the time. But your alright Jack, £2000 in your back pocket. Catch 22 for them comes to mind.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Welcome Mr Cameron. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the £2000 that you have just given me to help me to employ people. Thanks to your government I have already taken people off benefits and put them into work, and I hope to take more on soon as our business grows. What a shame about all the nomarks that comment here? What sad lives they must lead?[/p][/quote]Well done there sir, you will employ more people on zero hour contracts meaning they will not get paid for most of their employment time and will not be able to get unemployment benefit when there is no work because they will be employed by you with no work to offer them for most of the time. But your alright Jack, £2000 in your back pocket. Catch 22 for them comes to mind. Assimilation
  • Score: 9

9:35pm Mon 28 Apr 14

ClactonObserver says...

Can't wait to vote for UKIP and get Cameron out
Can't wait to vote for UKIP and get Cameron out ClactonObserver
  • Score: 1

11:13pm Mon 28 Apr 14

Boris says...

Just like Clegg a few days ago, a party leader comes to Colchester but with no advance publicity, so no chance for us to pelt them with the rotten eggs that they deserve.
.
Why do these people choose to inflict themselves on Colchester? Is it because they perceive us as a cruel lot, happy to see poor people squirm and suffer before they get a few crumbs from our table?
Just like Clegg a few days ago, a party leader comes to Colchester but with no advance publicity, so no chance for us to pelt them with the rotten eggs that they deserve. . Why do these people choose to inflict themselves on Colchester? Is it because they perceive us as a cruel lot, happy to see poor people squirm and suffer before they get a few crumbs from our table? Boris
  • Score: 7

7:38am Tue 29 Apr 14

StephenTierneyPhotography says...

A work exchange scheme with Eastern Europe would make the long term unemployable our biggest export lol. Come on Dave, you can do better !!
A work exchange scheme with Eastern Europe would make the long term unemployable our biggest export lol. Come on Dave, you can do better !! StephenTierneyPhotography
  • Score: 0

8:50am Tue 29 Apr 14

AngryManNewTown says...

AngryManNewTown wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for
Exactly what im saying if you were you would have to use the job seekers!!!
[quote][p][bold]AngryManNewTown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!![/p][/quote]Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for[/p][/quote]Exactly what im saying if you were you would have to use the job seekers!!! AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 1

9:30am Tue 29 Apr 14

Catchedicam says...

SAndrewss wrote:
Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'.

I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job.

If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.
No one receives Job Seekers Allowance anymore and the " different type of benefit" was called incapacity benefit, it has all been rolled into Employment Support Allowance (ESA). So differentiating between long term incapacity and unemployment is now not possible from the payments alone.
[quote][p][bold]SAndrewss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'. I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job. If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.[/p][/quote]No one receives Job Seekers Allowance anymore and the " different type of benefit" was called incapacity benefit, it has all been rolled into Employment Support Allowance (ESA). So differentiating between long term incapacity and unemployment is now not possible from the payments alone. Catchedicam
  • Score: 6

9:38am Tue 29 Apr 14

Catchedicam says...

This hare brained scheme will cost the country more, attendance at the 'Job Centre' outside of the normal two week cycle means that the claimant is entitled to claim travelling expenses. Common sense dictates that if your are spending your ESA getting to the 'job centre' each day then you will not have any money left to search for a Job, nor to actually live off. This scheme is not the answer, nor is subsidising failing businesses to take on unemployed people on zero hour contracts just to get them off the books. We need real jobs, that pay a real rate of pay, that people can actually live on.
This hare brained scheme will cost the country more, attendance at the 'Job Centre' outside of the normal two week cycle means that the claimant is entitled to claim travelling expenses. Common sense dictates that if your are spending your ESA getting to the 'job centre' each day then you will not have any money left to search for a Job, nor to actually live off. This scheme is not the answer, nor is subsidising failing businesses to take on unemployed people on zero hour contracts just to get them off the books. We need real jobs, that pay a real rate of pay, that people can actually live on. Catchedicam
  • Score: 10

10:25am Tue 29 Apr 14

Checkout says...

Take him on a pothole tour.
Take him on a pothole tour. Checkout
  • Score: 10

1:07pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Jade113345 says...

I think the newspaper is daft doing a story on unemployment when they **** offices and made so many people redundant in the town???? This oPer who sent press to India as it's cheaper???
I think the newspaper is daft doing a story on unemployment when they **** offices and made so many people redundant in the town???? This oPer who sent press to India as it's cheaper??? Jade113345
  • Score: 5

2:11pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Tolkny says...

Boris wrote:
Just like Clegg a few days ago, a party leader comes to Colchester but with no advance publicity, so no chance for us to pelt them with the rotten eggs that they deserve.
.
Why do these people choose to inflict themselves on Colchester? Is it because they perceive us as a cruel lot, happy to see poor people squirm and suffer before they get a few crumbs from our table?
Seems to me by placing this report on the front page, compared to the lesser prominence given to other political leaders' visits suggests The Gazette is nailing its political colours to the Cameron mast, I wonder what the Standard will make of it on Friday?
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Just like Clegg a few days ago, a party leader comes to Colchester but with no advance publicity, so no chance for us to pelt them with the rotten eggs that they deserve. . Why do these people choose to inflict themselves on Colchester? Is it because they perceive us as a cruel lot, happy to see poor people squirm and suffer before they get a few crumbs from our table?[/p][/quote]Seems to me by placing this report on the front page, compared to the lesser prominence given to other political leaders' visits suggests The Gazette is nailing its political colours to the Cameron mast, I wonder what the Standard will make of it on Friday? Tolkny
  • Score: 5

3:15pm Tue 29 Apr 14

orangesandlemons says...

AngryManNewTown wrote:
AngryManNewTown wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for
Exactly what im saying if you were you would have to use the job seekers!!!
Are you for real AngryManNewTown people have to live whilst they are looking for a job you know! and they can't even manage it on the meagre amount they get at the moment, let alone paying out for going to the jobcentre everyday. But I suspect the jobcentre lot will expect people to walk miles like a country peasant. The government just loves degrading benefit claimants, its their sick pleasure.
[quote][p][bold]AngryManNewTown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngryManNewTown[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!![/p][/quote]Your JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE!!!!!! thats what its there for[/p][/quote]Exactly what im saying if you were you would have to use the job seekers!!![/p][/quote]Are you for real AngryManNewTown people have to live whilst they are looking for a job you know! and they can't even manage it on the meagre amount they get at the moment, let alone paying out for going to the jobcentre everyday. But I suspect the jobcentre lot will expect people to walk miles like a country peasant. The government just loves degrading benefit claimants, its their sick pleasure. orangesandlemons
  • Score: 6

3:20pm Tue 29 Apr 14

orangesandlemons says...

Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
Completely agree, well said.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]Completely agree, well said. orangesandlemons
  • Score: 5

3:29pm Tue 29 Apr 14

orangesandlemons says...

SAndrewss wrote:
Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'.

I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job.

If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.
@ SAndrews; We don't live in a perfect world. People sometimes might not realise they need help or might not be getting the help they want. Some people fall into a grey area as mentioned by Mark Goacher. Also When the government is very unfairly taking away peoples ESA benefit that can't work they may have little option but to claim JSA despite not being fit to work. So its really not as black and white as the government likes to make out.
[quote][p][bold]SAndrewss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'. I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job. If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.[/p][/quote]@ SAndrews; We don't live in a perfect world. People sometimes might not realise they need help or might not be getting the help they want. Some people fall into a grey area as mentioned by Mark Goacher. Also When the government is very unfairly taking away peoples ESA benefit that can't work they may have little option but to claim JSA despite not being fit to work. So its really not as black and white as the government likes to make out. orangesandlemons
  • Score: 6

3:35pm Tue 29 Apr 14

catflap1 says...

Colonel Kurtz wrote:
You can't blame the present government. The country is in better shape now than when it came in to power
really?? it's now a regular shape rather than a irregular one ?? what world are you living in ??
[quote][p][bold]Colonel Kurtz[/bold] wrote: You can't blame the present government. The country is in better shape now than when it came in to power[/p][/quote]really?? it's now a regular shape rather than a irregular one ?? what world are you living in ?? catflap1
  • Score: 3

3:39pm Tue 29 Apr 14

catflap1 says...

orangesandlemons wrote:
SAndrewss wrote:
Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'.

I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job.

If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.
@ SAndrews; We don't live in a perfect world. People sometimes might not realise they need help or might not be getting the help they want. Some people fall into a grey area as mentioned by Mark Goacher. Also When the government is very unfairly taking away peoples ESA benefit that can't work they may have little option but to claim JSA despite not being fit to work. So its really not as black and white as the government likes to make out.
"If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit."

there was - disability benefit -- the tory tosser did away with it
[quote][p][bold]orangesandlemons[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAndrewss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'. I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job. If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.[/p][/quote]@ SAndrews; We don't live in a perfect world. People sometimes might not realise they need help or might not be getting the help they want. Some people fall into a grey area as mentioned by Mark Goacher. Also When the government is very unfairly taking away peoples ESA benefit that can't work they may have little option but to claim JSA despite not being fit to work. So its really not as black and white as the government likes to make out.[/p][/quote]"If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit." there was - disability benefit -- the tory tosser did away with it catflap1
  • Score: 6

3:40pm Tue 29 Apr 14

catflap1 says...

all.talk.no.action wrote:
The streets will be dressed in garlands, flags and bunting, the people lining up to cheer and get a glimpse of the great man and celebrate his great ideas.
Hoorah! Hoorah!
lets hope he trips on a pot hole into a pile of the uncleared up dog **** that makes this town so wonderful
[quote][p][bold]all.talk.no.action[/bold] wrote: The streets will be dressed in garlands, flags and bunting, the people lining up to cheer and get a glimpse of the great man and celebrate his great ideas. Hoorah! Hoorah![/p][/quote]lets hope he trips on a pot hole into a pile of the uncleared up dog **** that makes this town so wonderful catflap1
  • Score: 4

7:24pm Tue 29 Apr 14

James Harrington says...

Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
This is an excellent quote and great piece of work, the gazette should consider posting this in their paper in the Editors comment page.
I was ill 10 years ago and was promised all sorts of help after signing of incapacity allowances.
I got 6 months worth of help I was promised 12, with ongoing support thereafter. The system was tun by a private agency style outfit. After 6 months a new manager came in and cut me out completely. They are target and bonus driven.
I advocate a warning to anyone signing off long term assessed benefits.
The made by Mark about most of the £80 Billion benefits going to people already in work is a poignant one: We must also bear in mind £120 Billion of the budget goes to paying pensions. There is very little fat left to trim. Perhaps if people like Bernie E from Suffolk paid the £1 Billion they owed to the state, we would not be in this mess of kicking the poor, ill and disenfranchised.
[quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]This is an excellent quote and great piece of work, the gazette should consider posting this in their paper in the Editors comment page. I was ill 10 years ago and was promised all sorts of help after signing of incapacity allowances. I got 6 months worth of help I was promised 12, with ongoing support thereafter. The system was tun by a private agency style outfit. After 6 months a new manager came in and cut me out completely. They are target and bonus driven. I advocate a warning to anyone signing off long term assessed benefits. The made by Mark about most of the £80 Billion benefits going to people already in work is a poignant one: We must also bear in mind £120 Billion of the budget goes to paying pensions. There is very little fat left to trim. Perhaps if people like Bernie E from Suffolk paid the £1 Billion they owed to the state, we would not be in this mess of kicking the poor, ill and disenfranchised. James Harrington
  • Score: 6

7:27pm Tue 29 Apr 14

James Harrington says...

orangesandlemons wrote:
SAndrewss wrote:
Mark Goacher wrote:
It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job.
Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.
If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'.

I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job.

If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.
@ SAndrews; We don't live in a perfect world. People sometimes might not realise they need help or might not be getting the help they want. Some people fall into a grey area as mentioned by Mark Goacher. Also When the government is very unfairly taking away peoples ESA benefit that can't work they may have little option but to claim JSA despite not being fit to work. So its really not as black and white as the government likes to make out.
Agreed entirely: I had to find and create my own work nobody would take me on after I was ill.
[quote][p][bold]orangesandlemons[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SAndrewss[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mark Goacher[/bold] wrote: It is true that there is a core group of long-term unemployed that is very difficult to get into work but this scheme is not the answer. Some of these people have problems related to drugs, mental health or lack of basic skills. Just forcing them to attend a job centre every day (and no doubt spend all their benefits on the transport costs if they live outside of town) is tokenism. What they need is more investment on schemes to get them off drugs, educate them with some basic skills and boost their confidence. I accept that some unemployed people are feckless but the majority are either lacking skills/mental well-being or or unemployed because they cannot get a job. Also I suspect that the jobs Mr Cameron has in mind are Zero-hours contract jobs with no guaranteed income so that getting these people into work will not get them off benefits and benefit the taxpayer since most people who draw benefits are actually in work.[/p][/quote]If people are not actively seeking employment, then they shouldn't be receiving 'JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE'. I have no problem with people attending a job centre for assistance in searching for a job. If people have illnesses etc which makes them unable to work then they should be on a different type of benefit.[/p][/quote]@ SAndrews; We don't live in a perfect world. People sometimes might not realise they need help or might not be getting the help they want. Some people fall into a grey area as mentioned by Mark Goacher. Also When the government is very unfairly taking away peoples ESA benefit that can't work they may have little option but to claim JSA despite not being fit to work. So its really not as black and white as the government likes to make out.[/p][/quote]Agreed entirely: I had to find and create my own work nobody would take me on after I was ill. James Harrington
  • Score: 5

9:00pm Tue 29 Apr 14

C.I.5. says...

You know he is not telling the truth, I know he is not telling the truth, half the country know it as-well. He thinks you don't know what his chums and he is doing to us. Come 2019 you will see the next down turn, which will be a very dangerous one. No welfare, No Healthcare, No Well Being, watch and see?
You know he is not telling the truth, I know he is not telling the truth, half the country know it as-well. He thinks you don't know what his chums and he is doing to us. Come 2019 you will see the next down turn, which will be a very dangerous one. No welfare, No Healthcare, No Well Being, watch and see? C.I.5.
  • Score: 5

10:15pm Tue 29 Apr 14

co2 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
unemployed people should not have cars.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!![/p][/quote]unemployed people should not have cars. co2
  • Score: -8

10:20pm Tue 29 Apr 14

co2 says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Welcome Mr Cameron. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the £2000 that you have just given me to help me to employ people. Thanks to your government I have already taken people off benefits and put them into work, and I hope to take more on soon as our business grows. What a shame about all the nomarks that comment here? What sad lives they must lead?
Well said,cut benefit payments,instead give the long term unemployed 3 meals a day from feeding centres,give them clothes from charity shops and free condoms to stop them having loads of kids who often end up as benefit claimants themselves.
Also make them do gardeming for those of us who work and pay our taxes,benefits are supposed to be there to help those in a tempary fsituation,not to fund a lifestyle at the expense of the tax payer.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Welcome Mr Cameron. Keep up the good work. Thanks for the £2000 that you have just given me to help me to employ people. Thanks to your government I have already taken people off benefits and put them into work, and I hope to take more on soon as our business grows. What a shame about all the nomarks that comment here? What sad lives they must lead?[/p][/quote]Well said,cut benefit payments,instead give the long term unemployed 3 meals a day from feeding centres,give them clothes from charity shops and free condoms to stop them having loads of kids who often end up as benefit claimants themselves. Also make them do gardeming for those of us who work and pay our taxes,benefits are supposed to be there to help those in a tempary fsituation,not to fund a lifestyle at the expense of the tax payer. co2
  • Score: -6

11:07pm Tue 29 Apr 14

Jess Jephcott says...

My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?
My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people? Jess Jephcott
  • Score: -14

12:15am Wed 30 Apr 14

Assimilation says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?
Well you must be proud, making a profit. It must be the money that you are saving by not paying wages to all them zero hour employees that you employ. They also must be really proud, sitting at home with no income worrying about where their next meal is coming from and how they are going to pay their bills. They cant pay their dues thanks to the likes of you.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?[/p][/quote]Well you must be proud, making a profit. It must be the money that you are saving by not paying wages to all them zero hour employees that you employ. They also must be really proud, sitting at home with no income worrying about where their next meal is coming from and how they are going to pay their bills. They cant pay their dues thanks to the likes of you. Assimilation
  • Score: 6

12:25am Wed 30 Apr 14

Assimilation says...

It`s OK folks, you can now drive up the bus lane on North Hill without being fined. Whats good for our self centred leader is good enough for us. Next thing will be is, we have all got to have the same hair style as our beloved leader, or else.
It`s OK folks, you can now drive up the bus lane on North Hill without being fined. Whats good for our self centred leader is good enough for us. Next thing will be is, we have all got to have the same hair style as our beloved leader, or else. Assimilation
  • Score: 2

9:03am Wed 30 Apr 14

stevedawson says...

Jess your becoming a right burger in our little town.
Jess your becoming a right burger in our little town. stevedawson
  • Score: 2

10:15am Wed 30 Apr 14

Catchedicam says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?
No problem with a business making a profit, that is what they are there for, it's the ones that exploit workers, through practices such as zero hours contracts, minimum wage instead of living wage etc that are the problem. This means that we as taxpayers then have to subsidise these businesses shoddy practices by topping up the low wages via the benefits system, stigmatising people through no fault of their own, for example 88% of housing benefit claimants are in employment, if they were paid a living wage , we could cut the tax bill and the welfare bill. When 30% (1 in 3) of all families receive benefits in order to survive, there is something fundamentally flawed with the system, that flaw is the minimum wage, it needs to be a living wage, so if a worker does his 40 or 50 hours a week (s)he can afford a house, food clothes, holiday car etc without the need to have any benefits. Why should Vodafone make Billions in profits, pay minimal tax yet have over a quarter of its workers paid below the living wage level? Corporate greed is a cancer in our society harming small businesses and individuals alike.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?[/p][/quote]No problem with a business making a profit, that is what they are there for, it's the ones that exploit workers, through practices such as zero hours contracts, minimum wage instead of living wage etc that are the problem. This means that we as taxpayers then have to subsidise these businesses shoddy practices by topping up the low wages via the benefits system, stigmatising people through no fault of their own, for example 88% of housing benefit claimants are in employment, if they were paid a living wage , we could cut the tax bill and the welfare bill. When 30% (1 in 3) of all families receive benefits in order to survive, there is something fundamentally flawed with the system, that flaw is the minimum wage, it needs to be a living wage, so if a worker does his 40 or 50 hours a week (s)he can afford a house, food clothes, holiday car etc without the need to have any benefits. Why should Vodafone make Billions in profits, pay minimal tax yet have over a quarter of its workers paid below the living wage level? Corporate greed is a cancer in our society harming small businesses and individuals alike. Catchedicam
  • Score: 8

7:52pm Wed 30 Apr 14

C.I.5. says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?
Why do your son's not work for you?
Are they trying to tell us something?
You are just as B*D as Angry-Of-SobbyLand:
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: My accountant today appraised me of how much Corporation Tax I will be paying come December on the profit that my company has made this year. Yes. Profit. A dirty word to the great unwashed who seem to infest this place. Nobody owes you a living. I object to my taxes going to pay for wastrels - but I have no say in the matter. Zero hours contracts? So what? My 18 year old son is on a zero hours contract with a well known supermarket in the town. He works for a living and he has the opportunity to move on if he doesn't like the terms. He doesn't bleat about the inequalities of life. He gets on with it. My 21 year old son the same. He is earning a good living as a welder fabricator, having gone to college to learn his trade. I am proud of them both, as I am of my two other sons who have now left home and are getting on with their lives, earning a living, bringing up families, paying their dues. What is the matter with you people?[/p][/quote]Why do your son's not work for you? Are they trying to tell us something? You are just as B*D as Angry-Of-SobbyLand: C.I.5.
  • Score: 5

9:59pm Wed 30 Apr 14

C.I.5. says...

co2 wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!!
unemployed people should not have cars.
Little miss squeaky clean high school girlie, is unemployed and gets a brand new car from daddy to go to school, what is the difference CO2?
Remarks like that CO2 will be getting you some H2SO4 on your car one day.
That was quite nasty and belittling to the Job-seeking Public.
[quote][p][bold]co2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: What a load of bo***x this scheme will be......if i was on benefits.....and visited my local job centre office 5 days a week it would cost me £25.00 in petrol a week...more on the bus !!! And thats expected to come from where ?? Goverment hasnt thought this half baked idea through ! Again the poor get poorer ! And cheap labour just got cheaper. Tho , i understand , if you are in prison and officials lose your nose clippers / radio alarm clock / carton of cranberry juice....you can claim £ 800 !!! Like i said....what aload of bo***x !! Nearly time to vote !!![/p][/quote]unemployed people should not have cars.[/p][/quote]Little miss squeaky clean high school girlie, is unemployed and gets a brand new car from daddy to go to school, what is the difference CO2? Remarks like that CO2 will be getting you some H2SO4 on your car one day. That was quite nasty and belittling to the Job-seeking Public. C.I.5.
  • Score: 3

10:03pm Wed 30 Apr 14

C.I.5. says...

And by the way £10 a day to live on is derisory for JSA.
Our fellow members of society are treated like SH*TE
while unemployed.
What goes around comes around Blue Blood Tories:
There will be karma.
And by the way £10 a day to live on is derisory for JSA. Our fellow members of society are treated like SH*TE while unemployed. What goes around comes around Blue Blood Tories: There will be karma. C.I.5.
  • Score: 1

5:54pm Fri 2 May 14

Jess Jephcott says...

Just to clarify my situation, I run an engineering company and one of my sons works for me. Nobody is on a zero hours contract. My other son wouldn't know one end of a welding torch from another and has chosen his own career path. He is on a zero hours contract and he is not being exploited by anybody. Sadly, the last Labour government has produced a section of the working class that see it as the business of others to keep them in fags and booze. Mr Cameron and Co are hopefully doing something about them. Anybody who is fit for work should work, at whatever the going rate is.
Just to clarify my situation, I run an engineering company and one of my sons works for me. Nobody is on a zero hours contract. My other son wouldn't know one end of a welding torch from another and has chosen his own career path. He is on a zero hours contract and he is not being exploited by anybody. Sadly, the last Labour government has produced a section of the working class that see it as the business of others to keep them in fags and booze. Mr Cameron and Co are hopefully doing something about them. Anybody who is fit for work should work, at whatever the going rate is. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: -5

6:11pm Fri 2 May 14

Tolkny says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Just to clarify my situation, I run an engineering company and one of my sons works for me. Nobody is on a zero hours contract. My other son wouldn't know one end of a welding torch from another and has chosen his own career path. He is on a zero hours contract and he is not being exploited by anybody. Sadly, the last Labour government has produced a section of the working class that see it as the business of others to keep them in fags and booze. Mr Cameron and Co are hopefully doing something about them. Anybody who is fit for work should work, at whatever the going rate is.
" Sadly, the last Labour government has produced a section of the working class that see it as the business of others to keep them in fags and booze"

That is absolute nonsense - what there is of a dependency culture began back in the 1970s when the then Labour Governement fearing disorder if unemployment (counted in the traditional way) reached a million. They firstly introduced supported employment in a couple of areas for young people - Liverpool and London(at least) - I cannot remember the name of the scheme and then there were wider schemes YOPs and Job Creation and then after the Conservatives were in power and there were massive lay-offs, from the 1980s, there was the extension of invalidity benefit - which was the real problem - subsequently we had low paying employers supported by some workers being provided top up money as the wages were not enough to live on.

Then we had the - false boom - where money was made out of trading in - money - but things really began to go wrong after failed banking regulations - some banks collapsed and the economy was propped up by banks being funded by tax payers and quantitative easing (the opposite of Thatcher's monetarism - now the workers who are the least employable are paying the consequences!

Do not oversimplify it - UKIP can do that on their own!
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Just to clarify my situation, I run an engineering company and one of my sons works for me. Nobody is on a zero hours contract. My other son wouldn't know one end of a welding torch from another and has chosen his own career path. He is on a zero hours contract and he is not being exploited by anybody. Sadly, the last Labour government has produced a section of the working class that see it as the business of others to keep them in fags and booze. Mr Cameron and Co are hopefully doing something about them. Anybody who is fit for work should work, at whatever the going rate is.[/p][/quote]" Sadly, the last Labour government has produced a section of the working class that see it as the business of others to keep them in fags and booze" That is absolute nonsense - what there is of a dependency culture began back in the 1970s when the then Labour Governement fearing disorder if unemployment (counted in the traditional way) reached a million. They firstly introduced supported employment in a couple of areas for young people - Liverpool and London(at least) - I cannot remember the name of the scheme and then there were wider schemes YOPs and Job Creation and then after the Conservatives were in power and there were massive lay-offs, from the 1980s, there was the extension of invalidity benefit - which was the real problem - subsequently we had low paying employers supported by some workers being provided top up money as the wages were not enough to live on. Then we had the - false boom - where money was made out of trading in - money - but things really began to go wrong after failed banking regulations - some banks collapsed and the economy was propped up by banks being funded by tax payers and quantitative easing (the opposite of Thatcher's monetarism - now the workers who are the least employable are paying the consequences! Do not oversimplify it - UKIP can do that on their own! Tolkny
  • Score: 1

4:53pm Sat 3 May 14

stevedawson says...

Life is not a rehearsal.greed and ignorance of others creates turmoil and strife.cameron osborne and the entire front bench of government have no idea what it is like to be a job seeker under their watch.it's all just rhetoric and no substance.
Life is not a rehearsal.greed and ignorance of others creates turmoil and strife.cameron osborne and the entire front bench of government have no idea what it is like to be a job seeker under their watch.it's all just rhetoric and no substance. stevedawson
  • Score: 1

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