War medals stolen in home raid

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WAR medals including one presented by the king have been stolen from a house in Colchester.

Burglars broke into a house in Old Heath Road between April 12 and April 19.

A spokesman for Essex Police said: "The stolen items include First World War medals in the name of Harry George Smith of the Essex Regiment including the South African Campaign Medal amongst others.

"The medals are set on an extended bar and there are more than six of them.

"There is a MBE medal in a black presentation box in the same name presented in 1946 by King George VI for Harry’s work in the Home Guard during the Second World War."

First World War campaign medals issued to Horace Boat were also taken along with a black Kawasaki motorbike with a registration beginning AY06.

Anyone who saw suspicious activity in the area, knows who is responsible or is offered the medals or bike to buy is urged to contact investigating officer Det Con Duncan Collyer at Colchester CID on 101, or via Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

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6:51pm Mon 21 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Utterly despicable to I suggest nine out of ten of in Colchester. I'll bet one out of ten can't understand what the fuss is about. Probably think it's fair game - sort of thing a certain transient group do. They "find" stuff in your garden shed, then move to say a hedge near their caravans and then "discover" it the next day. In their eyes a sort of finders keepers.

Talking of people who steal for a living and get away with it, I was pretty angry to read about Debra and John of Dovercourt. It seems they found £25109.58 of over paid benefits and "forgot" talk to the agency about their change in circumstances - as in our John got himself an HGV driving job.

But their second load of good fortune was the sympathetic court who thanked them for pleading guilty - as though dear Debra and john had a choice. The court went on to reward D and J's honesty in pleading guilty by letting them off paying the money back.

Apparently D and J will have to do 240 hours of unpaid work and pay £755 cash. Let's think this through. Supposing we rate the unpaid work at a generous £7 per hour. This means it will cost John and the lovely Debra £3463 to get a cash gift of £21546.58! Wow quite a good deal for D and J.

But hold on a minute Mr. Magistrate, that's our money your giving Debra and John Burgess, and I object. I will investigate further, it may be that the tax paying community need to challenge the audit for the department responsible.

I'm not just Angry, I'm Incandescent with rage.

Anyone else a tad fed up that this couple have stolen our hard earned taxes and been helped to get away with it?

By the way this site is rigged - it is not possible to comment under the article posted about Debra and John Burgess.
Utterly despicable to I suggest nine out of ten of in Colchester. I'll bet one out of ten can't understand what the fuss is about. Probably think it's fair game - sort of thing a certain transient group do. They "find" stuff in your garden shed, then move to say a hedge near their caravans and then "discover" it the next day. In their eyes a sort of finders keepers. Talking of people who steal for a living and get away with it, I was pretty angry to read about Debra and John of Dovercourt. It seems they found £25109.58 of over paid benefits and "forgot" talk to the agency about their change in circumstances - as in our John got himself an HGV driving job. But their second load of good fortune was the sympathetic court who thanked them for pleading guilty - as though dear Debra and john had a choice. The court went on to reward D and J's honesty in pleading guilty by letting them off paying the money back. Apparently D and J will have to do 240 hours of unpaid work and pay £755 cash. Let's think this through. Supposing we rate the unpaid work at a generous £7 per hour. This means it will cost John and the lovely Debra £3463 to get a cash gift of £21546.58! Wow quite a good deal for D and J. But hold on a minute Mr. Magistrate, that's our money your giving Debra and John Burgess, and I object. I will investigate further, it may be that the tax paying community need to challenge the audit for the department responsible. I'm not just Angry, I'm Incandescent with rage. Anyone else a tad fed up that this couple have stolen our hard earned taxes and been helped to get away with it? By the way this site is rigged - it is not possible to comment under the article posted about Debra and John Burgess. Angry of Lexden
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12:27am Tue 22 Apr 14

Boris says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Utterly despicable to I suggest nine out of ten of in Colchester. I'll bet one out of ten can't understand what the fuss is about. Probably think it's fair game - sort of thing a certain transient group do. They "find" stuff in your garden shed, then move to say a hedge near their caravans and then "discover" it the next day. In their eyes a sort of finders keepers.

Talking of people who steal for a living and get away with it, I was pretty angry to read about Debra and John of Dovercourt. It seems they found £25109.58 of over paid benefits and "forgot" talk to the agency about their change in circumstances - as in our John got himself an HGV driving job.

But their second load of good fortune was the sympathetic court who thanked them for pleading guilty - as though dear Debra and john had a choice. The court went on to reward D and J's honesty in pleading guilty by letting them off paying the money back.

Apparently D and J will have to do 240 hours of unpaid work and pay £755 cash. Let's think this through. Supposing we rate the unpaid work at a generous £7 per hour. This means it will cost John and the lovely Debra £3463 to get a cash gift of £21546.58! Wow quite a good deal for D and J.

But hold on a minute Mr. Magistrate, that's our money your giving Debra and John Burgess, and I object. I will investigate further, it may be that the tax paying community need to challenge the audit for the department responsible.

I'm not just Angry, I'm Incandescent with rage.

Anyone else a tad fed up that this couple have stolen our hard earned taxes and been helped to get away with it?

By the way this site is rigged - it is not possible to comment under the article posted about Debra and John Burgess.
You are quite right that Debra and John, as reported, are despicable specimens of humanity, and on the face of it their punishment should have been much heavier. But neither you nor I were present in the magistrates' court, so we don't know the full circumstances of their case.
If you want to keep your rage incandescent, I suggest you direct your anger not only at the low life scum like Debra and John, but at the major tax dodgers such as Philip Green, who are costing us far more, with the connivance of their friends in Downing Street. You could also get angry at all the other things that the government is squandering our money on. I leave you to identify these.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Utterly despicable to I suggest nine out of ten of in Colchester. I'll bet one out of ten can't understand what the fuss is about. Probably think it's fair game - sort of thing a certain transient group do. They "find" stuff in your garden shed, then move to say a hedge near their caravans and then "discover" it the next day. In their eyes a sort of finders keepers. Talking of people who steal for a living and get away with it, I was pretty angry to read about Debra and John of Dovercourt. It seems they found £25109.58 of over paid benefits and "forgot" talk to the agency about their change in circumstances - as in our John got himself an HGV driving job. But their second load of good fortune was the sympathetic court who thanked them for pleading guilty - as though dear Debra and john had a choice. The court went on to reward D and J's honesty in pleading guilty by letting them off paying the money back. Apparently D and J will have to do 240 hours of unpaid work and pay £755 cash. Let's think this through. Supposing we rate the unpaid work at a generous £7 per hour. This means it will cost John and the lovely Debra £3463 to get a cash gift of £21546.58! Wow quite a good deal for D and J. But hold on a minute Mr. Magistrate, that's our money your giving Debra and John Burgess, and I object. I will investigate further, it may be that the tax paying community need to challenge the audit for the department responsible. I'm not just Angry, I'm Incandescent with rage. Anyone else a tad fed up that this couple have stolen our hard earned taxes and been helped to get away with it? By the way this site is rigged - it is not possible to comment under the article posted about Debra and John Burgess.[/p][/quote]You are quite right that Debra and John, as reported, are despicable specimens of humanity, and on the face of it their punishment should have been much heavier. But neither you nor I were present in the magistrates' court, so we don't know the full circumstances of their case. If you want to keep your rage incandescent, I suggest you direct your anger not only at the low life scum like Debra and John, but at the major tax dodgers such as Philip Green, who are costing us far more, with the connivance of their friends in Downing Street. You could also get angry at all the other things that the government is squandering our money on. I leave you to identify these. Boris
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8:27pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Of course you are right Boris, I don't have all the facts, and yes, there could be other detail which may have lead or dictated the court's final decision.

I am not angry that for what ever the reason Debra and John stole the money we all paid from our hard earned wages, or value added tax paid on purchases etc.

However I am angry that they have walked away from a £21k theft and further, been seen to get away with it. This sends a clear message to others that even if they get caught the penalty will not balance with the crime. Perhaps it would be better if the penalty had included repayment at the rate of 15 % of their disposable income till the total were repaid. Maybe it's time to return to a longer term attitude to reparation penalties - might even improve the deterrent effect.

The Burgess's committed a serious theft from the pot to which we all have to contribute. This was no on off impulse crime, they knew they were stealing from us over a long period and continued to do so. Their cynical attitude has deprived those in real need to some degree of benefit support.

I am not familiar with Philip Green's tax arrangements and I'm guessing that you reckon he doesn't pay enough. If he has broken the rules he will be caught. If he has paid a tax advisor to find a way of legally reducing the amount he pays, that's another matter - the "gaps" in the rules need to be plugged.

It would be interesting to know what extra tax, as a percentage of the current total, would be generated if we squeezed another ten pence in the pound out of those earning over a million.

By the way had a really super time in Suffolk.
Of course you are right Boris, I don't have all the facts, and yes, there could be other detail which may have lead or dictated the court's final decision. I am not angry that for what ever the reason Debra and John stole the money we all paid from our hard earned wages, or value added tax paid on purchases etc. However I am angry that they have walked away from a £21k theft and further, been seen to get away with it. This sends a clear message to others that even if they get caught the penalty will not balance with the crime. Perhaps it would be better if the penalty had included repayment at the rate of 15 % of their disposable income till the total were repaid. Maybe it's time to return to a longer term attitude to reparation penalties - might even improve the deterrent effect. The Burgess's committed a serious theft from the pot to which we all have to contribute. This was no on off impulse crime, they knew they were stealing from us over a long period and continued to do so. Their cynical attitude has deprived those in real need to some degree of benefit support. I am not familiar with Philip Green's tax arrangements and I'm guessing that you reckon he doesn't pay enough. If he has broken the rules he will be caught. If he has paid a tax advisor to find a way of legally reducing the amount he pays, that's another matter - the "gaps" in the rules need to be plugged. It would be interesting to know what extra tax, as a percentage of the current total, would be generated if we squeezed another ten pence in the pound out of those earning over a million. By the way had a really super time in Suffolk. Angry of Lexden
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