Fresh crackdown on skateboarding outside Firstsite

Fresh crackdown on skateboarding outside Firstsite

Fresh crackdown on skateboarding outside Firstsite

First published in News

A fresh crackdown on skateboarding and anti-social behaviour outside Firstsite is being launched to stop it increasing over the school holidays.

Colchester Council and Essex Police have teamed up to monitor the area more closely and have pledged to take a firm stance where needed.

Skateboarders have gathered outside the Lewis Gardens gallery since it opened in September 2011, leading the council to impose a ban seven months later.

In September 2013 the council then spent £10,000 installing 146 metal studs to stop skateboarders using the seats for tricks but some continue to gather there.

Over the past few months the police and council have been meeting to discuss the issue.

 

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3:17pm Sat 12 Apr 14

cynicalsubber says...

Does it really hurt anyone? Crack down on youngsters if they're vandalising playgrounds, or drinking alcohol outside schools, but FFS, what harm does skateboarding outside an art gallery do?
I'd be more interested in the drivers using Lewis Gardens as a rat run to avoid the bus lane preventing car drivers turning right from the High Street into Queen Street. THAT's bloody dangerous.
Does it really hurt anyone? Crack down on youngsters if they're vandalising playgrounds, or drinking alcohol outside schools, but FFS, what harm does skateboarding outside an art gallery do? I'd be more interested in the drivers using Lewis Gardens as a rat run to avoid the bus lane preventing car drivers turning right from the High Street into Queen Street. THAT's bloody dangerous. cynicalsubber
  • Score: 28

3:40pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Seems the skateboarders are the only ones using this facility so leave them alone and make the area a proper skate park. Skateboarding is after all an art form. Also, to overcome the issues of motorists turning round on East Hill the easiest thing is to remove the stupid bus lane and cameras because, due to access rights along Queens Street, they cannot close the road to general traffic.
Seems the skateboarders are the only ones using this facility so leave them alone and make the area a proper skate park. Skateboarding is after all an art form. Also, to overcome the issues of motorists turning round on East Hill the easiest thing is to remove the stupid bus lane and cameras because, due to access rights along Queens Street, they cannot close the road to general traffic. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 19

4:04pm Sat 12 Apr 14

blockpaver says...

Too little too late, when the problem fist started years ago CBC was made aware of it and decided then that they wanted the area to be a cosmopolitan meeting place for everyone of all ages.

Anyone with half a brain could see that the youngsters congregating there would damage the site and put off other visitors, which they have.

I’ve no desire to demonise the young folk who meet there as I’m sure that the vast majority of them are very pleasant kids, regrettably you cant have such groups congregating outside of a “flag-ship” development such as this.
Too little too late, when the problem fist started years ago CBC was made aware of it and decided then that they wanted the area to be a cosmopolitan meeting place for everyone of all ages. Anyone with half a brain could see that the youngsters congregating there would damage the site and put off other visitors, which they have. I’ve no desire to demonise the young folk who meet there as I’m sure that the vast majority of them are very pleasant kids, regrettably you cant have such groups congregating outside of a “flag-ship” development such as this. blockpaver
  • Score: -20

4:19pm Sat 12 Apr 14

greenbroker says...

I wonder what would happen if they congregated outside the Tate Modern or Buckingham palace? Why not in our Castle Park right outside the castle? They are not wanted anywhere except a skate park.
I wonder what would happen if they congregated outside the Tate Modern or Buckingham palace? Why not in our Castle Park right outside the castle? They are not wanted anywhere except a skate park. greenbroker
  • Score: -17

9:32pm Sat 12 Apr 14

franticmum says...

I think they should be encouraged to stay and perform, in my experience their skateboarding is considerably more entertaining than the contents of the gallery.
I think they should be encouraged to stay and perform, in my experience their skateboarding is considerably more entertaining than the contents of the gallery. franticmum
  • Score: 24

10:06pm Sat 12 Apr 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

WHY?
WHY? A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 5

1:54am Sun 13 Apr 14

Boris says...

franticmum wrote:
I think they should be encouraged to stay and perform, in my experience their skateboarding is considerably more entertaining than the contents of the gallery.
Absolutely correct, franticmum. The skateboarders provide entertainment, which is more than the VAF does. That lovely level area, with a few steps, seems to be ideal for skateboarders to develop their skills. I regularly visit the VAF in the evenings while the skateboarders are active, and they do not intimidate me at all. As an OAP I want to see Colchester do more for our young people. The space outside the VAF, which is already there and paid for, is ideal for the skateboarders. Leave them alone.
[quote][p][bold]franticmum[/bold] wrote: I think they should be encouraged to stay and perform, in my experience their skateboarding is considerably more entertaining than the contents of the gallery.[/p][/quote]Absolutely correct, franticmum. The skateboarders provide entertainment, which is more than the VAF does. That lovely level area, with a few steps, seems to be ideal for skateboarders to develop their skills. I regularly visit the VAF in the evenings while the skateboarders are active, and they do not intimidate me at all. As an OAP I want to see Colchester do more for our young people. The space outside the VAF, which is already there and paid for, is ideal for the skateboarders. Leave them alone. Boris
  • Score: 23

11:34am Sun 13 Apr 14

wormshero says...

It really annoys me that young people are still treated as a nuisance. The sentence "some continue to gather there" particularly annoys; young people, in a groups, outside, OH GOD THIS IS TERRIBLE! Nationally, people are always moaning that teenagers aren't as active as they used to be, spend all their time inside playing video games, y'know, that kind of made up crap, but if a group of people hang out outside, or use an ideal location to do some kind of physical activity people try and shut them down, and moan about them gathering in a public place. What exactly do people want teenagers to do?
It really annoys me that young people are still treated as a nuisance. The sentence "some continue to gather there" particularly annoys; young people, in a groups, outside, OH GOD THIS IS TERRIBLE! Nationally, people are always moaning that teenagers aren't as active as they used to be, spend all their time inside playing video games, y'know, that kind of made up crap, but if a group of people hang out outside, or use an ideal location to do some kind of physical activity people try and shut them down, and moan about them gathering in a public place. What exactly do people want teenagers to do? wormshero
  • Score: 20

6:20pm Sun 13 Apr 14

25414nora says...

Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest.
local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness.
As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !!
I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..
Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest. local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness. As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !! I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment.. 25414nora
  • Score: -26

11:10pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Boris says...

25414nora wrote:
Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest.
local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness.
As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !!
I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..
No, Nora, I am not being facetious. I enjoy seeing the skateboarders performing, and I wish skateboards had been invented when i was their age. As i men tioned earlier, I am an OAP, like you. I have not been intimidated by the skateboarders and I do not understand why you should be.
As a U's supporter you have certainly heard plenty of foul language over the years, and really it is not that important. Get over it.
Of course I also pay my council tax, like you. I do not agree that skateboarders should be banished to Shrub End and anywhere else that CBC may have provided facilities. Fine if they happen to live near there, but not so if they live somewhere else. They want to meet in the town centre. That space outside the VAF is perfect for them, it seems to have been designed with skateboarders in mind, so let them get on with it.
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest. local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness. As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !! I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..[/p][/quote]No, Nora, I am not being facetious. I enjoy seeing the skateboarders performing, and I wish skateboards had been invented when i was their age. As i men tioned earlier, I am an OAP, like you. I have not been intimidated by the skateboarders and I do not understand why you should be. As a U's supporter you have certainly heard plenty of foul language over the years, and really it is not that important. Get over it. Of course I also pay my council tax, like you. I do not agree that skateboarders should be banished to Shrub End and anywhere else that CBC may have provided facilities. Fine if they happen to live near there, but not so if they live somewhere else. They want to meet in the town centre. That space outside the VAF is perfect for them, it seems to have been designed with skateboarders in mind, so let them get on with it. Boris
  • Score: 21

10:20am Mon 14 Apr 14

romantic says...

Like others, I'm regularly in the area, and have never found the kids intimidating. They're just hanging around, same as we did when we were teenagers. The council is deluding itself if they believe it is the skateboarders keeping visitors away from the VAF. It is a combination of lack of publicity, lack of much artwork to actually see, and the fact that lots of visitors have no idea it is even there!

The kids are not the ones who have squandered millions on a vanity project run by amateurs who wouldn't know art if it jumped up and slapped them in the face. Instead of demonising them, we (and this also means the Gazette!) should be trying to get the whole story of this project out there, rather than the current "Emperor's New Clothes" approach of blindly reprinting the Firstsite publicity and visitor numbers.
Like others, I'm regularly in the area, and have never found the kids intimidating. They're just hanging around, same as we did when we were teenagers. The council is deluding itself if they believe it is the skateboarders keeping visitors away from the VAF. It is a combination of lack of publicity, lack of much artwork to actually see, and the fact that lots of visitors have no idea it is even there! The kids are not the ones who have squandered millions on a vanity project run by amateurs who wouldn't know art if it jumped up and slapped them in the face. Instead of demonising them, we (and this also means the Gazette!) should be trying to get the whole story of this project out there, rather than the current "Emperor's New Clothes" approach of blindly reprinting the Firstsite publicity and visitor numbers. romantic
  • Score: 12

10:42am Mon 14 Apr 14

RonnieClegg says...

25414nora wrote:
Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest.
local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness.
As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !!
I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..
Surely you're being facetious – "pleasant cultural quarter"?
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest. local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness. As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !! I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..[/p][/quote]Surely you're being facetious – "pleasant cultural quarter"? RonnieClegg
  • Score: 12

10:52am Mon 14 Apr 14

chance2228 says...

It made me very happy, as a young person who often used to hang around these areas, to read some of your comments. It is great relief knowing that not all of you frown upon the hobby we have taken up and that it even entertains some of you! To the other negative people, what is it that makes you so weary of these people that congregate here? I would love to hear your opinions.
It made me very happy, as a young person who often used to hang around these areas, to read some of your comments. It is great relief knowing that not all of you frown upon the hobby we have taken up and that it even entertains some of you! To the other negative people, what is it that makes you so weary of these people that congregate here? I would love to hear your opinions. chance2228
  • Score: 14

11:00am Mon 14 Apr 14

super waluigi says...

The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational.
Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.
The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational. Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London. super waluigi
  • Score: 3

11:16am Mon 14 Apr 14

chance2228 says...

super waluigi wrote:
The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational.
Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.
We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester.

Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate.

As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?
[quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational. Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.[/p][/quote]We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester. Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate. As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it? chance2228
  • Score: 9

5:34pm Mon 14 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

chance2228 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational.
Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.
We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester.

Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate.

As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?
I can see both points of view. Young people need to be able to socialise and if it's around a healthy physical hobby, all the better. Boarding is a skill which I guess enhances strength and agility....better this than drifting toward the Ed Redman end of the scale.

But, I find the noise jarring and intrusive. Also the space boarding requires does present a barrier to other pedestrians. For these reasons I would prefer not to spend my time in close proximity with boarders - it doesn't mean I don't like them or respect their skills.
[quote][p][bold]chance2228[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational. Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.[/p][/quote]We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester. Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate. As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?[/p][/quote]I can see both points of view. Young people need to be able to socialise and if it's around a healthy physical hobby, all the better. Boarding is a skill which I guess enhances strength and agility....better this than drifting toward the Ed Redman end of the scale. But, I find the noise jarring and intrusive. Also the space boarding requires does present a barrier to other pedestrians. For these reasons I would prefer not to spend my time in close proximity with boarders - it doesn't mean I don't like them or respect their skills. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 1

3:26am Tue 15 Apr 14

JamesBarne says...

Boris wrote:
25414nora wrote:
Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest.
local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness.
As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !!
I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..
No, Nora, I am not being facetious. I enjoy seeing the skateboarders performing, and I wish skateboards had been invented when i was their age. As i men tioned earlier, I am an OAP, like you. I have not been intimidated by the skateboarders and I do not understand why you should be.
As a U's supporter you have certainly heard plenty of foul language over the years, and really it is not that important. Get over it.
Of course I also pay my council tax, like you. I do not agree that skateboarders should be banished to Shrub End and anywhere else that CBC may have provided facilities. Fine if they happen to live near there, but not so if they live somewhere else. They want to meet in the town centre. That space outside the VAF is perfect for them, it seems to have been designed with skateboarders in mind, so let them get on with it.
Nora you are placing skateboarders under a stereotype which is unnecessary. It is the teenage degenerates causing our probelm here. Perhaps they should have built something to accommodate youth as opposite to the complete contrary in which you nest your sweet bottom.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest. local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness. As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !! I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..[/p][/quote]No, Nora, I am not being facetious. I enjoy seeing the skateboarders performing, and I wish skateboards had been invented when i was their age. As i men tioned earlier, I am an OAP, like you. I have not been intimidated by the skateboarders and I do not understand why you should be. As a U's supporter you have certainly heard plenty of foul language over the years, and really it is not that important. Get over it. Of course I also pay my council tax, like you. I do not agree that skateboarders should be banished to Shrub End and anywhere else that CBC may have provided facilities. Fine if they happen to live near there, but not so if they live somewhere else. They want to meet in the town centre. That space outside the VAF is perfect for them, it seems to have been designed with skateboarders in mind, so let them get on with it.[/p][/quote]Nora you are placing skateboarders under a stereotype which is unnecessary. It is the teenage degenerates causing our probelm here. Perhaps they should have built something to accommodate youth as opposite to the complete contrary in which you nest your sweet bottom. JamesBarne
  • Score: -1

9:38am Tue 15 Apr 14

chance2228 says...

JamesBarne wrote:
Boris wrote:
25414nora wrote:
Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest.
local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness.
As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !!
I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..
No, Nora, I am not being facetious. I enjoy seeing the skateboarders performing, and I wish skateboards had been invented when i was their age. As i men tioned earlier, I am an OAP, like you. I have not been intimidated by the skateboarders and I do not understand why you should be.
As a U's supporter you have certainly heard plenty of foul language over the years, and really it is not that important. Get over it.
Of course I also pay my council tax, like you. I do not agree that skateboarders should be banished to Shrub End and anywhere else that CBC may have provided facilities. Fine if they happen to live near there, but not so if they live somewhere else. They want to meet in the town centre. That space outside the VAF is perfect for them, it seems to have been designed with skateboarders in mind, so let them get on with it.
Nora you are placing skateboarders under a stereotype which is unnecessary. It is the teenage degenerates causing our probelm here. Perhaps they should have built something to accommodate youth as opposite to the complete contrary in which you nest your sweet bottom.
@Nora, I don't really know the full extent of the interactions you've had with these 'yobbish' youths but I do know that a large percent of people that inhabit these area's and skateboard parks are between the ages of 21-30.

If you go down to any skatepark, especially during term-time (as I assume this is not the time that you are basing your judgements around), you will see a large number of older men practicing their hobby.

It's insulting to be branded as yobbish and rowdy. I'm sure at some point in your life you would've hung around with a group that could be considered yobbish and rowdy, but these kids are just trying to have fun. As I said before, are they being anti-social? Are they causing you any danger, harm or distress? Not that I've heard or seen, and until then, please keep your negative and unjustifiable points to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]JamesBarne[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest. local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness. As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !! I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..[/p][/quote]No, Nora, I am not being facetious. I enjoy seeing the skateboarders performing, and I wish skateboards had been invented when i was their age. As i men tioned earlier, I am an OAP, like you. I have not been intimidated by the skateboarders and I do not understand why you should be. As a U's supporter you have certainly heard plenty of foul language over the years, and really it is not that important. Get over it. Of course I also pay my council tax, like you. I do not agree that skateboarders should be banished to Shrub End and anywhere else that CBC may have provided facilities. Fine if they happen to live near there, but not so if they live somewhere else. They want to meet in the town centre. That space outside the VAF is perfect for them, it seems to have been designed with skateboarders in mind, so let them get on with it.[/p][/quote]Nora you are placing skateboarders under a stereotype which is unnecessary. It is the teenage degenerates causing our probelm here. Perhaps they should have built something to accommodate youth as opposite to the complete contrary in which you nest your sweet bottom.[/p][/quote]@Nora, I don't really know the full extent of the interactions you've had with these 'yobbish' youths but I do know that a large percent of people that inhabit these area's and skateboard parks are between the ages of 21-30. If you go down to any skatepark, especially during term-time (as I assume this is not the time that you are basing your judgements around), you will see a large number of older men practicing their hobby. It's insulting to be branded as yobbish and rowdy. I'm sure at some point in your life you would've hung around with a group that could be considered yobbish and rowdy, but these kids are just trying to have fun. As I said before, are they being anti-social? Are they causing you any danger, harm or distress? Not that I've heard or seen, and until then, please keep your negative and unjustifiable points to yourself. chance2228
  • Score: 1

10:26am Tue 15 Apr 14

sholt86 says...

The thing that the council and others don't seem to have realised is, that until they provide a decent skatepark for skateboarders etc to ride on, they will continue to find other areas to practice in - such as outside First Site. The current facilities (for example, the skate park near Leisure World) are generally ill-thought out (who thought that making the ramps and half pipes from slick, shiny metal - which means that if going at any kind of decent speed you'll ping off in any number of random directions - was a good idea?). It's the equivalent of digging a few little holes in the park, sticking some flags in them and proclaiming it a golf course. As most of the commenters above have stated, the skateboarders aren't generally getting in anyone's way or offending anyone, so what's the problem? When they aren't there the area is usually completely empty anyway.
The thing that the council and others don't seem to have realised is, that until they provide a decent skatepark for skateboarders etc to ride on, they will continue to find other areas to practice in - such as outside First Site. The current facilities (for example, the skate park near Leisure World) are generally ill-thought out (who thought that making the ramps and half pipes from slick, shiny metal - which means that if going at any kind of decent speed you'll ping off in any number of random directions - was a good idea?). It's the equivalent of digging a few little holes in the park, sticking some flags in them and proclaiming it a golf course. As most of the commenters above have stated, the skateboarders aren't generally getting in anyone's way or offending anyone, so what's the problem? When they aren't there the area is usually completely empty anyway. sholt86
  • Score: 6

11:31am Tue 15 Apr 14

romantic says...

25414nora wrote:
Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest.
local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness.
As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !!
I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..
Nora, I believe you are doing the classic thing of "judging a book by its cover". I go past the VAF a lot and don't really recognise what you call "yobbishness" or "rowdy behaviour". They're just normal kids. You might think they look a bit scruffy or have some weird haircuts, but that's what teenagers have done for at least the last 50 years! Reading between the lines, I get the feeling that you yourself do not feel intimidated, but "appreciate the concerns of others". Is it actually the case that your friends feel intimidated, or are you playing this up a bit?

"Pleasant cultural quarter"? Are you sure? There are plans out there, and in a few years, it could be the case, but at the moment, it is not the youth which is stopping people going to the VAF, it is that the VAF does not publicise itself enough and has little inside which interests people!

The one thing I would say to the kids who gather there is: please take your rubbish home with you, or find a bin! But let's be honest, it's not only teenagers who leave litter lying around - but that's another story!
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Regardless of popular MYTH. our Firstsite Arts facility is actually gaining as a visitor attraction. Situated in the pleasant cultural quarter, there is a gradual but definite increase in visitor interest. local people, myself included often use the facility to meet others, or to just relax in the restaurant. I can however appreciate the concerns of others who feel intimidated by the rowdy behaviour of these youths, using the seating as jumping hurdles, foul language, and general yobbishness. As council tax payers we provide facilities for skateboarders to skateboard till their hearts content...NOT HERE !! I hope Boris is being 'facetious' when he says they provide entertainment..[/p][/quote]Nora, I believe you are doing the classic thing of "judging a book by its cover". I go past the VAF a lot and don't really recognise what you call "yobbishness" or "rowdy behaviour". They're just normal kids. You might think they look a bit scruffy or have some weird haircuts, but that's what teenagers have done for at least the last 50 years! Reading between the lines, I get the feeling that you yourself do not feel intimidated, but "appreciate the concerns of others". Is it actually the case that your friends feel intimidated, or are you playing this up a bit? "Pleasant cultural quarter"? Are you sure? There are plans out there, and in a few years, it could be the case, but at the moment, it is not the youth which is stopping people going to the VAF, it is that the VAF does not publicise itself enough and has little inside which interests people! The one thing I would say to the kids who gather there is: please take your rubbish home with you, or find a bin! But let's be honest, it's not only teenagers who leave litter lying around - but that's another story! romantic
  • Score: 4

12:27pm Tue 15 Apr 14

greenbroker says...

I suggest that the 'artistic' skateboarders practice on the slopes at the Essex County Hospital when it closes. Hopefully, they won't manage to stop at the bottom.
I suggest that the 'artistic' skateboarders practice on the slopes at the Essex County Hospital when it closes. Hopefully, they won't manage to stop at the bottom. greenbroker
  • Score: -11

1:42pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

How much more public money is going to be wasted on the firts*ite fiasco before the plug is pulled on this vanity project?

Let the skateboarders enjoy themselves. Just think what of the negative impact on visitor numbers if the teenagers that hang around and use the free toilets are moved elsewhere.
How much more public money is going to be wasted on the firts*ite fiasco before the plug is pulled on this vanity project? Let the skateboarders enjoy themselves. Just think what of the negative impact on visitor numbers if the teenagers that hang around and use the free toilets are moved elsewhere. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 8

4:33pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

chance2228 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational.
Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.
We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester.

Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate.

As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?
LMAO. Come on Super Deluded, you've got to do much better than this with your multiple identities to get away with it.
[quote][p][bold]chance2228[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational. Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.[/p][/quote]We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester. Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate. As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?[/p][/quote]LMAO. Come on Super Deluded, you've got to do much better than this with your multiple identities to get away with it. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 2

8:25pm Tue 15 Apr 14

super waluigi says...

chance2228 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational.
Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.
We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester.

Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate.

As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?
I agree.

I am no skate boarder. I would not know how to. But I am also not into fine art. I am however pro First site. Just because I don't appreciate fine art, it does not mean others won't, so I say 'let them enjoy it'.
And in my opinion, a skate park is the same. I would get no benefit from it, but skate boarders, young and old could. It would be a cheap alternative to bowling and cinemas, an active hobby and potential Olympic sport.

Stick to your guns. Others will judge you. Don't listen.
[quote][p][bold]chance2228[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational. Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.[/p][/quote]We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester. Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate. As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?[/p][/quote]I agree. I am no skate boarder. I would not know how to. But I am also not into fine art. I am however pro First site. Just because I don't appreciate fine art, it does not mean others won't, so I say 'let them enjoy it'. And in my opinion, a skate park is the same. I would get no benefit from it, but skate boarders, young and old could. It would be a cheap alternative to bowling and cinemas, an active hobby and potential Olympic sport. Stick to your guns. Others will judge you. Don't listen. super waluigi
  • Score: 1

10:53pm Tue 15 Apr 14

25414nora says...

Some aggressive responses to my earlier comment..
Chance 2228 says:- "Large percent of skateboarders are age 21-30"
Really? Surely at age 21 responsible people should be gainfully employed, and mapping out their future. At 30 surely they should be well established in their jobs, with the proverbial 2.4 children, and a hefty mortgage.
Not being a pain to citizens in a public place.
It's people who condone, and encourage bad behaviour, who are partly to blame for the declining standards in our society. 'Oh' and 2228 I wont be taking your advice to keep my points to myself, last time I looked this was an open forum.
Some aggressive responses to my earlier comment.. Chance 2228 says:- "Large percent of skateboarders are age 21-30" Really? Surely at age 21 responsible people should be gainfully employed, and mapping out their future. At 30 surely they should be well established in their jobs, with the proverbial 2.4 children, and a hefty mortgage. Not being a pain to citizens in a public place. It's people who condone, and encourage bad behaviour, who are partly to blame for the declining standards in our society. 'Oh' and 2228 I wont be taking your advice to keep my points to myself, last time I looked this was an open forum. 25414nora
  • Score: -8

11:07pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Boris says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
chance2228 wrote:
super waluigi wrote:
The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational.
Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.
We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester.

Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate.

As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?
I can see both points of view. Young people need to be able to socialise and if it's around a healthy physical hobby, all the better. Boarding is a skill which I guess enhances strength and agility....better this than drifting toward the Ed Redman end of the scale.

But, I find the noise jarring and intrusive. Also the space boarding requires does present a barrier to other pedestrians. For these reasons I would prefer not to spend my time in close proximity with boarders - it doesn't mean I don't like them or respect their skills.
Angry, you appear to be the kind of OAP that Nora is concerned about. What is this "barrier to other pedestrians" that you mention? You are like some primitive tribesman who has been brought to the UK on a cultural exchange, but who has never seen motor traffic, and therefore is terrified to cross the road, even at a zebra crossing, which should be considerably safer than the crocodile-infested rivers of his homeland.
if you don't like skateboarders, stay away from the VAF. But please don't seek to impose your own arbitrary cultural preferences on others.
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chance2228[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]super waluigi[/bold] wrote: The best way to get the kids and their skate boards away from the area is to build a good skate board park near by. If this is the 'cultural quarter' then perhaps skate boarding, modern music like Hip hop and even graffiti should be included and not excluded. Both graffiti and hip hop can be educational. Even London has a massive skate board park on the Themes. Right next the the eye in fact. It is also the biggest in London.[/p][/quote]We need more people like you inside and around the areas of Colchester. Some of the skateparks aren't accessible to all of the residents of Colchester, which as was previously mentioned, does lead to teens and young people finding other places to skate. As long as we are not being anti-social and causing any harm or damage to any of the property, I really don't see why everybody has a problem with it?[/p][/quote]I can see both points of view. Young people need to be able to socialise and if it's around a healthy physical hobby, all the better. Boarding is a skill which I guess enhances strength and agility....better this than drifting toward the Ed Redman end of the scale. But, I find the noise jarring and intrusive. Also the space boarding requires does present a barrier to other pedestrians. For these reasons I would prefer not to spend my time in close proximity with boarders - it doesn't mean I don't like them or respect their skills.[/p][/quote]Angry, you appear to be the kind of OAP that Nora is concerned about. What is this "barrier to other pedestrians" that you mention? You are like some primitive tribesman who has been brought to the UK on a cultural exchange, but who has never seen motor traffic, and therefore is terrified to cross the road, even at a zebra crossing, which should be considerably safer than the crocodile-infested rivers of his homeland. if you don't like skateboarders, stay away from the VAF. But please don't seek to impose your own arbitrary cultural preferences on others. Boris
  • Score: 5

11:33pm Tue 15 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now.

Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility.

And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it.

By the way oap - moi?
Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now. Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility. And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it. By the way oap - moi? Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -6

1:04am Wed 16 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now.

Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility.

And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it.

By the way oap - moi?
By the way, Nora, help!
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now. Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility. And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it. By the way oap - moi?[/p][/quote]By the way, Nora, help! Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -6

7:38am Wed 16 Apr 14

25414nora says...

Angry of Lexden wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now.

Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility.

And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it.

By the way oap - moi?
By the way, Nora, help!
Now now it's ok Angry I'm here, Take no notice of our Boris sometimes he reads a comment, digests it, but only understands enough to fit in with his own agenda. He means no harm..bless
[quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now. Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility. And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it. By the way oap - moi?[/p][/quote]By the way, Nora, help![/p][/quote]Now now it's ok Angry I'm here, Take no notice of our Boris sometimes he reads a comment, digests it, but only understands enough to fit in with his own agenda. He means no harm..bless 25414nora
  • Score: -5

8:57am Wed 16 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora.

Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings.

Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light.

Time to come clean Super Deluded.
Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora. Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings. Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light. Time to come clean Super Deluded. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 18

9:16am Wed 16 Apr 14

wormshero says...

Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora.

Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings.

Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light.

Time to come clean Super Deluded.
This seems like an odd thing to care enough to be paranoid about.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora. Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings. Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light. Time to come clean Super Deluded.[/p][/quote]This seems like an odd thing to care enough to be paranoid about. wormshero
  • Score: -5

9:42am Wed 16 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

wormshero wrote:
Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora.

Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings.

Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light.

Time to come clean Super Deluded.
This seems like an odd thing to care enough to be paranoid about.
We're not sure why he's doing it to be honest. It seems to have got worse as more people have become aware of what he is doing. Even more new IDs are popping up and even more outlandish imaginary conversations are taking place between them. All the work of one person...

+ super waluigi
+ Eddy D
+ 25414nora
+ Hungry student
+ In Joe we trust
+ chance2228
[quote][p][bold]wormshero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora. Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings. Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light. Time to come clean Super Deluded.[/p][/quote]This seems like an odd thing to care enough to be paranoid about.[/p][/quote]We're not sure why he's doing it to be honest. It seems to have got worse as more people have become aware of what he is doing. Even more new IDs are popping up and even more outlandish imaginary conversations are taking place between them. All the work of one person... + super waluigi + Eddy D + 25414nora + Hungry student + In Joe we trust + chance2228 Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 24

11:07am Wed 16 Apr 14

super waluigi says...

25414nora wrote:
Some aggressive responses to my earlier comment..
Chance 2228 says:- "Large percent of skateboarders are age 21-30"
Really? Surely at age 21 responsible people should be gainfully employed, and mapping out their future. At 30 surely they should be well established in their jobs, with the proverbial 2.4 children, and a hefty mortgage.
Not being a pain to citizens in a public place.
It's people who condone, and encourage bad behaviour, who are partly to blame for the declining standards in our society. 'Oh' and 2228 I wont be taking your advice to keep my points to myself, last time I looked this was an open forum.
Hey Nora, I always respect your opinion. But on this subject I find your view point well dated. I am 34 and do not know how skateboarders do what they do. I do however know people who use their skateboard to travel to work. Why not? Is it any more harmful than a cyclist? Any more harmful to the planet than cars? And if they choose to continue their hobby out of hours, good for them. If you find them a problem to your personal life, ie, they are outside your house late or have been a nuisance on a Saturday morning while you are shopping, then I have some consideration to your concern, I do however feel that while kids and adults are being creative, energetic and let's face it, up to date on world wide trends, I cannot see a problem.
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: Some aggressive responses to my earlier comment.. Chance 2228 says:- "Large percent of skateboarders are age 21-30" Really? Surely at age 21 responsible people should be gainfully employed, and mapping out their future. At 30 surely they should be well established in their jobs, with the proverbial 2.4 children, and a hefty mortgage. Not being a pain to citizens in a public place. It's people who condone, and encourage bad behaviour, who are partly to blame for the declining standards in our society. 'Oh' and 2228 I wont be taking your advice to keep my points to myself, last time I looked this was an open forum.[/p][/quote]Hey Nora, I always respect your opinion. But on this subject I find your view point well dated. I am 34 and do not know how skateboarders do what they do. I do however know people who use their skateboard to travel to work. Why not? Is it any more harmful than a cyclist? Any more harmful to the planet than cars? And if they choose to continue their hobby out of hours, good for them. If you find them a problem to your personal life, ie, they are outside your house late or have been a nuisance on a Saturday morning while you are shopping, then I have some consideration to your concern, I do however feel that while kids and adults are being creative, energetic and let's face it, up to date on world wide trends, I cannot see a problem. super waluigi
  • Score: -13

2:13pm Wed 16 Apr 14

chance2228 says...

Bert_Stimpson wrote:
wormshero wrote:
Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora.

Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings.

Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light.

Time to come clean Super Deluded.
This seems like an odd thing to care enough to be paranoid about.
We're not sure why he's doing it to be honest. It seems to have got worse as more people have become aware of what he is doing. Even more new IDs are popping up and even more outlandish imaginary conversations are taking place between them. All the work of one person...

+ super waluigi
+ Eddy D
+ 25414nora
+ Hungry student
+ In Joe we trust
+ chance2228
I can assure you I am not one of these multiple identities you are accusing me of being. I merely signed up for an account on this website a few days ago after seeing this article.

Skateboarding is a hobby that's very close to my heart. I have been doing it since I was 8 or 9 and I am now 18. It's about time that someone stood up for the kids and/or adults that are doing this because it's not fair that all you cynics sit here and call them yobs and what have you.

Why don't you all find a hobby that you can enjoy? As opposed to sitting behind your computer bashing on other peoples hobbies.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wormshero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora. Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings. Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light. Time to come clean Super Deluded.[/p][/quote]This seems like an odd thing to care enough to be paranoid about.[/p][/quote]We're not sure why he's doing it to be honest. It seems to have got worse as more people have become aware of what he is doing. Even more new IDs are popping up and even more outlandish imaginary conversations are taking place between them. All the work of one person... + super waluigi + Eddy D + 25414nora + Hungry student + In Joe we trust + chance2228[/p][/quote]I can assure you I am not one of these multiple identities you are accusing me of being. I merely signed up for an account on this website a few days ago after seeing this article. Skateboarding is a hobby that's very close to my heart. I have been doing it since I was 8 or 9 and I am now 18. It's about time that someone stood up for the kids and/or adults that are doing this because it's not fair that all you cynics sit here and call them yobs and what have you. Why don't you all find a hobby that you can enjoy? As opposed to sitting behind your computer bashing on other peoples hobbies. chance2228
  • Score: -11

2:40pm Wed 16 Apr 14

super waluigi says...

Hey chance 2228, don't listen to Bert.
I am 34 and have no other identities. Nora is a very established blogger and he is not me.
The reason I got on these boards was to reply to a thread including Eddie D (also on the site longer than myself).
Just for the record, my hobbies are Colchester United, video games and hip hop. I would be d@mned if I would let people tell me that I carried out any if my hobbies offensively, so good on you for standing up for what you believe.
People on here will judge you. Don't listen to them and stick to your guns. Other than that, welcome to the boards.
Hey chance 2228, don't listen to Bert. I am 34 and have no other identities. Nora is a very established blogger and he is not me. The reason I got on these boards was to reply to a thread including Eddie D (also on the site longer than myself). Just for the record, my hobbies are Colchester United, video games and hip hop. I would be d@mned if I would let people tell me that I carried out any if my hobbies offensively, so good on you for standing up for what you believe. People on here will judge you. Don't listen to them and stick to your guns. Other than that, welcome to the boards. super waluigi
  • Score: -13

3:28pm Wed 16 Apr 14

William George says...

Many of these comments are in purpose a battle to each other who writes them in a game of fight to each other a kind of sport in itself.

More efforts in the comments should be made about the sport of the skateboarding.

The skateboarding is a sport with a form of game too but not a fight to each other when its played.
Many of these comments are in purpose a battle to each other who writes them in a game of fight to each other a kind of sport in itself. More efforts in the comments should be made about the sport of the skateboarding. The skateboarding is a sport with a form of game too but not a fight to each other when its played. William George
  • Score: -4

4:39pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

Please stop it Super Deluded. You need some help.
Please stop it Super Deluded. You need some help. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 14

5:23pm Wed 16 Apr 14

chance2228 says...

Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Please stop it Super Deluded. You need some help.
If it bothers you that much, why not send an email to the gazette and have them check these supposed "multiple ID" accounts out?

I don't understand why I am being labeled as Super Deluded, for wanting to stand up for my hobby? The world needs more young people willing to stand up for what they believe in, yet with people like you I can understand why they wouldn't.

Most likely wont come back to comment on this, unless you've decided to act the clear age that you are and would like to discuss these matters. Then maybe both sides of the party will understand a little more.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Please stop it Super Deluded. You need some help.[/p][/quote]If it bothers you that much, why not send an email to the gazette and have them check these supposed "multiple ID" accounts out? I don't understand why I am being labeled as Super Deluded, for wanting to stand up for my hobby? The world needs more young people willing to stand up for what they believe in, yet with people like you I can understand why they wouldn't. Most likely wont come back to comment on this, unless you've decided to act the clear age that you are and would like to discuss these matters. Then maybe both sides of the party will understand a little more. chance2228
  • Score: -9

5:39pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

25414nora wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote:
Angry of Lexden wrote: Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now. Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility. And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it. By the way oap - moi?
By the way, Nora, help!
Now now it's ok Angry I'm here, Take no notice of our Boris sometimes he reads a comment, digests it, but only understands enough to fit in with his own agenda. He means no harm..bless
Thanks Nora,
Thing is sometimes I become quite agitated by the rantings of the lower orders. I know that Mummy was spot on when said it would best to keep them at a distance but I feel moved to try and help show them the better way.

Must go now Nursy is coming with my meds.
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Angry of Lexden[/bold] wrote: Wow! Boris my old darling, I do hope you feel better now. Perhaps next time you might be wiser to read the mail more carefully and try to understand what the writer is saying. Please read my note again when you have calmed down, or taken some evening primrose oil. You will see that I am supportive of the boarders sport, skills and agility. And I really don't think I deserve such a venomous retort. If you read my note again, and if the crimson haze has passed, you might want to consider whether you have the quality to apologise? From your outburst I doubt it. By the way oap - moi?[/p][/quote]By the way, Nora, help![/p][/quote]Now now it's ok Angry I'm here, Take no notice of our Boris sometimes he reads a comment, digests it, but only understands enough to fit in with his own agenda. He means no harm..bless[/p][/quote]Thanks Nora, Thing is sometimes I become quite agitated by the rantings of the lower orders. I know that Mummy was spot on when said it would best to keep them at a distance but I feel moved to try and help show them the better way. Must go now Nursy is coming with my meds. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -12

6:32pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

chance2228 wrote:
Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Please stop it Super Deluded. You need some help.
If it bothers you that much, why not send an email to the gazette and have them check these supposed "multiple ID" accounts out?

I don't understand why I am being labeled as Super Deluded, for wanting to stand up for my hobby? The world needs more young people willing to stand up for what they believe in, yet with people like you I can understand why they wouldn't.

Most likely wont come back to comment on this, unless you've decided to act the clear age that you are and would like to discuss these matters. Then maybe both sides of the party will understand a little more.
Maybe in your head each ID is a different person, so to you it's not crazy at all. As previously mentioned, it is quite entertaining to read your imaginary conversations between your multiple identities. You obviously get a buzz from it, so that's all well and good.

I think Medicated Soap sent an e-mail to the Gazette about you. I reckon you're in a room with ten different PCs, each one logged in as a different ID and you have to wear a different hat each time you post under a different name.

Mad as a bag of cats, but that's the beauty of the internet. Every lunatic finds their own little niche.
[quote][p][bold]chance2228[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Please stop it Super Deluded. You need some help.[/p][/quote]If it bothers you that much, why not send an email to the gazette and have them check these supposed "multiple ID" accounts out? I don't understand why I am being labeled as Super Deluded, for wanting to stand up for my hobby? The world needs more young people willing to stand up for what they believe in, yet with people like you I can understand why they wouldn't. Most likely wont come back to comment on this, unless you've decided to act the clear age that you are and would like to discuss these matters. Then maybe both sides of the party will understand a little more.[/p][/quote]Maybe in your head each ID is a different person, so to you it's not crazy at all. As previously mentioned, it is quite entertaining to read your imaginary conversations between your multiple identities. You obviously get a buzz from it, so that's all well and good. I think Medicated Soap sent an e-mail to the Gazette about you. I reckon you're in a room with ten different PCs, each one logged in as a different ID and you have to wear a different hat each time you post under a different name. Mad as a bag of cats, but that's the beauty of the internet. Every lunatic finds their own little niche. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 10

9:44pm Wed 16 Apr 14

25414nora says...

Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora.

Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings.

Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light.

Time to come clean Super Deluded.
Outrageous, Slanderous, Malicious, Comment from Bert_Stimson.
Please remove both comment and Bert Stimson from this web site.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Just so everyone is clear, it has become increasingly obvious that Super Waluigi (Super Deluded) has multiple IDs on this website including 25414nora. Based on this thread, I'm pretty sure chance2228 is one of his new characters that has popped up to support his ramblings. Rather than admit what he's doing, he has started coming up with crazy conversations between his multiple IDs. When you read the entire thread knowing this, you do start to see it in a whole new light. Time to come clean Super Deluded.[/p][/quote]Outrageous, Slanderous, Malicious, Comment from Bert_Stimson. Please remove both comment and Bert Stimson from this web site. 25414nora
  • Score: -15

10:13pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 8

12:16am Thu 17 Apr 14

chance2228 says...

Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
It's really sad that you've managed to convince other people that I am one of these multiple identities. What's worse is the fact that you're not even bothered about the issue in the article, you're here just to slander me.

Hopefully the gazette can prove to you that I am not one of these multiple identities, maybe then you can take my opinions on board and actually think about what I have previously posted, rather than acting childish and belittling my views. Goodnight.
[quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.[/p][/quote]It's really sad that you've managed to convince other people that I am one of these multiple identities. What's worse is the fact that you're not even bothered about the issue in the article, you're here just to slander me. Hopefully the gazette can prove to you that I am not one of these multiple identities, maybe then you can take my opinions on board and actually think about what I have previously posted, rather than acting childish and belittling my views. Goodnight. chance2228
  • Score: -10

8:28am Thu 17 Apr 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

chance2228 wrote:
Bert_Stimpson wrote:
Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.
It's really sad that you've managed to convince other people that I am one of these multiple identities. What's worse is the fact that you're not even bothered about the issue in the article, you're here just to slander me.

Hopefully the gazette can prove to you that I am not one of these multiple identities, maybe then you can take my opinions on board and actually think about what I have previously posted, rather than acting childish and belittling my views. Goodnight.
Keep digging Super Deluded.
[quote][p][bold]chance2228[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bert_Stimpson[/bold] wrote: Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.[/p][/quote]It's really sad that you've managed to convince other people that I am one of these multiple identities. What's worse is the fact that you're not even bothered about the issue in the article, you're here just to slander me. Hopefully the gazette can prove to you that I am not one of these multiple identities, maybe then you can take my opinions on board and actually think about what I have previously posted, rather than acting childish and belittling my views. Goodnight.[/p][/quote]Keep digging Super Deluded. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 16

9:06am Thu 17 Apr 14

SalmonHead says...

Skate stoppers represent more of a challenge. BRING IN ON CBC!
Skate stoppers represent more of a challenge. BRING IN ON CBC! SalmonHead
  • Score: -8

9:34am Thu 17 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Good morning girls,
What a wonderful day. I'm away for the weekend in Suffolk with the family. The pheasants are strutting their beautiful colours - little do they know the Purdeys are being cleaned.

And guess what? Not a clack of rumble of skate boards! I think you chaps really do need to get out more. Did you realise the score on this is 46 postings. The crazy thing is a significant proportion is whether who is a multiple cross dresser. Who cares.

I want you to kiss and be best pals till I get back.
All my love, sitting sipping tea under an ancient English Oak at the edge of a three acre lawn while waiting for the kedgeree.
Good morning girls, What a wonderful day. I'm away for the weekend in Suffolk with the family. The pheasants are strutting their beautiful colours - little do they know the Purdeys are being cleaned. And guess what? Not a clack of rumble of skate boards! I think you chaps really do need to get out more. Did you realise the score on this is 46 postings. The crazy thing is a significant proportion is whether who is a multiple cross dresser. Who cares. I want you to kiss and be best pals till I get back. All my love, sitting sipping tea under an ancient English Oak at the edge of a three acre lawn while waiting for the kedgeree. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -6

4:49pm Thu 17 Apr 14

rhetoric says...

God forbid anyone should try to stop the youth of today doing anything and everything they want. What an awful thought!
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Consideration for others and an ability to obey when asked not to do something, are foreign to so many today. How can we then expect them to develop into responsible full adults?
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I suspect that those supporting the skateboarders and their right to play outside the Centre are just older versions of the Town Yobs. I can't say they are "grown-up" versions because obviously they didn't grow up.
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Oh dear! The awful psychological damage that will be done to these poor unfortunate little creatures if we don't allow them to trundle about where they please. So, how is it that so many grew to responsible adulthood in the days when the word of parents and authority was law?
God forbid anyone should try to stop the youth of today doing anything and everything they want. What an awful thought! . Consideration for others and an ability to obey when asked not to do something, are foreign to so many today. How can we then expect them to develop into responsible full adults? . I suspect that those supporting the skateboarders and their right to play outside the Centre are just older versions of the Town Yobs. I can't say they are "grown-up" versions because obviously they didn't grow up. . Oh dear! The awful psychological damage that will be done to these poor unfortunate little creatures if we don't allow them to trundle about where they please. So, how is it that so many grew to responsible adulthood in the days when the word of parents and authority was law? rhetoric
  • Score: -5

6:26pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

rhetoric wrote:
God forbid anyone should try to stop the youth of today doing anything and everything they want. What an awful thought! . Consideration for others and an ability to obey when asked not to do something, are foreign to so many today. How can we then expect them to develop into responsible full adults? . I suspect that those supporting the skateboarders and their right to play outside the Centre are just older versions of the Town Yobs. I can't say they are "grown-up" versions because obviously they didn't grow up. . Oh dear! The awful psychological damage that will be done to these poor unfortunate little creatures if we don't allow them to trundle about where they please. So, how is it that so many grew to responsible adulthood in the days when the word of parents and authority was law?
Hello Rhetoric,
I'm guessing you are being PC. Let's be honest, considerate behaviour in folk of all ages is directly related to the example demonstrated by parents and other family members.

There is generally a correlation between one's behaviour and the social strata of one's surrounding group. Loosely, a family group who hold watching East Enders above sharing an evening meal together, are more likely to drop litter, take their children out of school for cheap holidays, bag up their dog's poo and then lob into a tree when alone.

The structure of social strata is historically agreed to be:

Lower orders - poor behaviour and low ambition.
Middle class - exhibit sound values and ambition.
Upper class - usually lots of dosh, extra fingers and slightly bewildered.

Skate boarders will be found in all three social groups but will interact differently with others in terms of consideration of where and when to enjoy their sport. The lower orders will do it on your gran if she gets in the way having robbed her first. The middle classes will try to find an appropriate place. And the Upper Classes will have their private skate park.

All the best from Suffolk.
[quote][p][bold]rhetoric[/bold] wrote: God forbid anyone should try to stop the youth of today doing anything and everything they want. What an awful thought! . Consideration for others and an ability to obey when asked not to do something, are foreign to so many today. How can we then expect them to develop into responsible full adults? . I suspect that those supporting the skateboarders and their right to play outside the Centre are just older versions of the Town Yobs. I can't say they are "grown-up" versions because obviously they didn't grow up. . Oh dear! The awful psychological damage that will be done to these poor unfortunate little creatures if we don't allow them to trundle about where they please. So, how is it that so many grew to responsible adulthood in the days when the word of parents and authority was law?[/p][/quote]Hello Rhetoric, I'm guessing you are being PC. Let's be honest, considerate behaviour in folk of all ages is directly related to the example demonstrated by parents and other family members. There is generally a correlation between one's behaviour and the social strata of one's surrounding group. Loosely, a family group who hold watching East Enders above sharing an evening meal together, are more likely to drop litter, take their children out of school for cheap holidays, bag up their dog's poo and then lob into a tree when alone. The structure of social strata is historically agreed to be: Lower orders - poor behaviour and low ambition. Middle class - exhibit sound values and ambition. Upper class - usually lots of dosh, extra fingers and slightly bewildered. Skate boarders will be found in all three social groups but will interact differently with others in terms of consideration of where and when to enjoy their sport. The lower orders will do it on your gran if she gets in the way having robbed her first. The middle classes will try to find an appropriate place. And the Upper Classes will have their private skate park. All the best from Suffolk. Angry of Lexden
  • Score: -3

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