It’s been like hell living next to the Stockwell

Essex County Standard: It’s been like hell living next to the Stockwell It’s been like hell living next to the Stockwell

A NEIGHBOUR says she has endured a four-year “nightmare” caused by a restaurant in Colchester’s Dutch Quarter.

The Stockwell, in West Stockwell Street, opened last year after a £1million refurbishment.

However, it has been revealed the owners have breached ten planning conditions since the restuarant opened.

The restaurant has hired a troubleshooter to take control of planning matters.

Christine Lavelle, who lives next to the restaurant, said: “It has been an absolute nightmare.”

Read the full story in today's Gazette.

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1:44pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Scoot says...

The Gazette at its best.... Please expand why it has been a hell. My Maths may not be brilliant but its been hell for 4 years but the place has been open 1 year max. The breaches in planning would only come to light once the place opened so what about the previous 3 years ? Noise from builders or noisy archaeologists ? I'd much rather a place was being renovated and rebuilt than left to fester so that vermin can run free and drug users etc can use it as a place to pursue their activities.
The Gazette at its best.... Please expand why it has been a hell. My Maths may not be brilliant but its been hell for 4 years but the place has been open 1 year max. The breaches in planning would only come to light once the place opened so what about the previous 3 years ? Noise from builders or noisy archaeologists ? I'd much rather a place was being renovated and rebuilt than left to fester so that vermin can run free and drug users etc can use it as a place to pursue their activities. Scoot
  • Score: 25

2:08pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 2

2:48pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say.

I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure.

As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county.

Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts.

BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say. I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure. As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county. Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts. BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments. sandgronun64
  • Score: 11

2:52pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Ontheball wrote:
The Gazette always manages to find a whinger to back up a story. Just why has her life been hell. Don't just make a headline up - back it up with something of substance!
What story is this lady backing up? From what I have heard, the Hell that she and a dozen other neighbours have been complaining about for over 3 years has been to do with a whole host of matters emanating from the Stockwell.

perhaps the print version has more on this?
[quote][p][bold]Ontheball[/bold] wrote: The Gazette always manages to find a whinger to back up a story. Just why has her life been hell. Don't just make a headline up - back it up with something of substance![/p][/quote]What story is this lady backing up? From what I have heard, the Hell that she and a dozen other neighbours have been complaining about for over 3 years has been to do with a whole host of matters emanating from the Stockwell. perhaps the print version has more on this? sandgronun64
  • Score: 13

2:56pm Wed 9 Apr 14

historyman22 says...

sandgronun64 wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say.

I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure.

As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county.

Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts.

BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.
Sandgonun, I would ignore comments like this. Probably the sort who complains bitterly when something affects them, but thinks the same behaviour from others is unacceptable.

Sounds like someone involved with the project perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]sandgronun64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say. I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure. As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county. Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts. BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.[/p][/quote]Sandgonun, I would ignore comments like this. Probably the sort who complains bitterly when something affects them, but thinks the same behaviour from others is unacceptable. Sounds like someone involved with the project perhaps? historyman22
  • Score: 4

2:59pm Wed 9 Apr 14

historyman22 says...

Right I am off to buy the print version to find out more.

I will probably also now go to the planning comittee meeting about this. I just checked online with the CBC website and doors open at 5.45 tomorrow.

It might prove entertaining.

Even if not, I will be in posession of the facts.
Right I am off to buy the print version to find out more. I will probably also now go to the planning comittee meeting about this. I just checked online with the CBC website and doors open at 5.45 tomorrow. It might prove entertaining. Even if not, I will be in posession of the facts. historyman22
  • Score: 15

7:09pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Jess Jephcott says...

If it's noise and smell then that should be an easy matter to resolve. I have dealt with this sort of problem many times over my years as a noise control and ventilation system engineer. Perhaps I should go down there and have a look rather than wait to be invited.
If it's noise and smell then that should be an easy matter to resolve. I have dealt with this sort of problem many times over my years as a noise control and ventilation system engineer. Perhaps I should go down there and have a look rather than wait to be invited. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 7

7:19pm Wed 9 Apr 14

partyplanner says...

SOMETHINGTOSAY - are you working for the Stockwell? You mention a lot of information that is not in the paper. I feel sorry for the people that live around the Stockwell - during the 3 year build. It was like watching paint dry.....only it is the wrong type of paint that has dried and they now have to take it off. There has been a lot of incompetency related to this project and none of it the surrounding peoples fault. If nearly 20 people opposed the licencing extension and nearly 15 for the new planning breaches (see Council website), that is not someone making a fuss about nothing. The Stockwell should have done the job properly in the first place and not cheesed off so many people.
SOMETHINGTOSAY - are you working for the Stockwell? You mention a lot of information that is not in the paper. I feel sorry for the people that live around the Stockwell - during the 3 year build. It was like watching paint dry.....only it is the wrong type of paint that has dried and they now have to take it off. There has been a lot of incompetency related to this project and none of it the surrounding peoples fault. If nearly 20 people opposed the licencing extension and nearly 15 for the new planning breaches (see Council website), that is not someone making a fuss about nothing. The Stockwell should have done the job properly in the first place and not cheesed off so many people. partyplanner
  • Score: 8

7:25pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
If it's noise and smell then that should be an easy matter to resolve. I have dealt with this sort of problem many times over my years as a noise control and ventilation system engineer. Perhaps I should go down there and have a look rather than wait to be invited.
Jess, whilst we do not always agree on matters raised in on-line threads, this time I agree with you wholeheartedly.

This system is noisy. It can be heard in surrounding properties as well as from the road (formerly there was no such noise) and goes on intermittently through the night (i.e. when the place is closed).

In the print edition the planning 'consultant' cites that they will adhere to a 5 DB limit for the fans, and liken a level of 80 DB to " ... a phone's normal dial tone..." It is clearly much noisier than either of these values.

I am sure any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated by the surrounding neighbours - you just have the owner to convince then.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: If it's noise and smell then that should be an easy matter to resolve. I have dealt with this sort of problem many times over my years as a noise control and ventilation system engineer. Perhaps I should go down there and have a look rather than wait to be invited.[/p][/quote]Jess, whilst we do not always agree on matters raised in on-line threads, this time I agree with you wholeheartedly. This system is noisy. It can be heard in surrounding properties as well as from the road (formerly there was no such noise) and goes on intermittently through the night (i.e. when the place is closed). In the print edition the planning 'consultant' cites that they will adhere to a 5 DB limit for the fans, and liken a level of 80 DB to " ... a phone's normal dial tone..." It is clearly much noisier than either of these values. I am sure any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated by the surrounding neighbours - you just have the owner to convince then. sandgronun64
  • Score: 4

8:08pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Pedro42 says...

I've seen some of the planning breaches and they beggar belief. This area is a small Essex/Colchester time capsule that needed a development/hostelry more in keeping and scale with the area.
This patently isn't!
P.
I've seen some of the planning breaches and they beggar belief. This area is a small Essex/Colchester time capsule that needed a development/hostelry more in keeping and scale with the area. This patently isn't! P. Pedro42
  • Score: 6

8:26pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Hayley Management says...

"all fur coat and no knickers" - this sums up this project at the Stockwell. The finances - £1 million quid invested. Why would someone invest so much to get little in return........it really is a mystery....or is it?
"all fur coat and no knickers" - this sums up this project at the Stockwell. The finances - £1 million quid invested. Why would someone invest so much to get little in return........it really is a mystery....or is it? Hayley Management
  • Score: 10

8:49pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

I find it outrageous that the owner has been allowed to breech so many planning conditions, if it was a private property surely CBC would have enforced the conditions so why is this "man" allowed to get away with breaching whatever he wants. I have had the misfortune of paying £17.95 for the stockwells deconstructed shepherds pie " which is basically mash next to a spoonful of greasy mince. Shepherds pie should be left alone it's the. Stockwell that needs deconstructing!
I find it outrageous that the owner has been allowed to breech so many planning conditions, if it was a private property surely CBC would have enforced the conditions so why is this "man" allowed to get away with breaching whatever he wants. I have had the misfortune of paying £17.95 for the stockwells deconstructed shepherds pie " which is basically mash next to a spoonful of greasy mince. Shepherds pie should be left alone it's the. Stockwell that needs deconstructing! Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 14

9:11pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Hail123 says...

I really have no idea why people appear to be making horrible negative remarks about this situation. I have known the Levelle family for many years and worked closely with them . I can honestly say that I have witnessed first hand the emotional strain on the family this so called pub has caused. Yes correct there certainly was a pub there when the Levelles purchased the property ,a pub that was well run and stuck to the correct planning restrictions .The current Stockwell Arms is an absolute joke,having seen the work being carried out ,the rude workmen,the brickwork and the continuation of seemly winding up this poor family. I for one will never step foot in the place and now breaching planning. Unfortunately some people think that money can get them out of anything,well I hope that the owner of the Stockwell Arms gets all that he deserves for making this poor family suffer he clearly has no manners or conscience x
I really have no idea why people appear to be making horrible negative remarks about this situation. I have known the Levelle family for many years and worked closely with them . I can honestly say that I have witnessed first hand the emotional strain on the family this so called pub has caused. Yes correct there certainly was a pub there when the Levelles purchased the property ,a pub that was well run and stuck to the correct planning restrictions .The current Stockwell Arms is an absolute joke,having seen the work being carried out ,the rude workmen,the brickwork and the continuation of seemly winding up this poor family. I for one will never step foot in the place and now breaching planning. Unfortunately some people think that money can get them out of anything,well I hope that the owner of the Stockwell Arms gets all that he deserves for making this poor family suffer he clearly has no manners or conscience x Hail123
  • Score: 12

9:11pm Wed 9 Apr 14

historyman22 says...

Sarah Wiekamp wrote:
I find it outrageous that the owner has been allowed to breech so many planning conditions, if it was a private property surely CBC would have enforced the conditions so why is this "man" allowed to get away with breaching whatever he wants. I have had the misfortune of paying £17.95 for the stockwells deconstructed shepherds pie " which is basically mash next to a spoonful of greasy mince. Shepherds pie should be left alone it's the. Stockwell that needs deconstructing!
Ha Ha ... Good One!
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Wiekamp[/bold] wrote: I find it outrageous that the owner has been allowed to breech so many planning conditions, if it was a private property surely CBC would have enforced the conditions so why is this "man" allowed to get away with breaching whatever he wants. I have had the misfortune of paying £17.95 for the stockwells deconstructed shepherds pie " which is basically mash next to a spoonful of greasy mince. Shepherds pie should be left alone it's the. Stockwell that needs deconstructing![/p][/quote]Ha Ha ... Good One! historyman22
  • Score: 10

9:30pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

As a mum with a pushchair I also cannot believe that the stockwell are allowed to leave an A frame advertising board on a public pavement restricting access for pushchairs, wheelchair users and the public in general!
As a mum with a pushchair I also cannot believe that the stockwell are allowed to leave an A frame advertising board on a public pavement restricting access for pushchairs, wheelchair users and the public in general! Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 15

9:46pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Sarah Wiekamp wrote:
As a mum with a pushchair I also cannot believe that the stockwell are allowed to leave an A frame advertising board on a public pavement restricting access for pushchairs, wheelchair users and the public in general!
I like many residents agree with you wholeheartedly.

Unfortunately, the owner appears to believe that the pavement outside the property belongs to him/the building; to be used as and however required by the business.

The fact that it is a public space appears to have eluded him.

It is frequently used to park cars/vans/trucks on, place advertisements and during the 3 years that it was being renovated and extended, the contractors frequently parked three or more vehicles outside for the whole day - apparently with impunity from the parking wardens.

Several representations have been made over the last three years, by a number of residents, including those with young children in pushchairs. It was to no avail though, and they were fobbed off by the parking partnership.

It was (and remains) an absolute joke.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Wiekamp[/bold] wrote: As a mum with a pushchair I also cannot believe that the stockwell are allowed to leave an A frame advertising board on a public pavement restricting access for pushchairs, wheelchair users and the public in general![/p][/quote]I like many residents agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, the owner appears to believe that the pavement outside the property belongs to him/the building; to be used as and however required by the business. The fact that it is a public space appears to have eluded him. It is frequently used to park cars/vans/trucks on, place advertisements and during the 3 years that it was being renovated and extended, the contractors frequently parked three or more vehicles outside for the whole day - apparently with impunity from the parking wardens. Several representations have been made over the last three years, by a number of residents, including those with young children in pushchairs. It was to no avail though, and they were fobbed off by the parking partnership. It was (and remains) an absolute joke. sandgronun64
  • Score: 10

9:51pm Wed 9 Apr 14

teabreak says...

It seems to me that the earthquake on the morning of April 22, 1884 didn't cause as much grief as this continuous persecution by the selfish Stockwell developers and owners. Nobody should have to live with the continuous noise, nobody who lives near a pub expects total silence or they wouldn't buy a house nearby. Christine is right to raise the issues that affect people who have their lives ruined by inconsiderate neighbors, Christine is not a moaning neighbour so for her to complain is unusual, she represents those who live near this dreadful restaurant.. Perhaps somebody in the council has a vested interest in this venture and it wont be shepherds pie in those brown envelopes handed out to smooth the planning processes.
It seems to me that the earthquake on the morning of April 22, 1884 didn't cause as much grief as this continuous persecution by the selfish Stockwell developers and owners. Nobody should have to live with the continuous noise, nobody who lives near a pub expects total silence or they wouldn't buy a house nearby. Christine is right to raise the issues that affect people who have their lives ruined by inconsiderate neighbors, Christine is not a moaning neighbour so for her to complain is unusual, she represents those who live near this dreadful restaurant.. Perhaps somebody in the council has a vested interest in this venture and it wont be shepherds pie in those brown envelopes handed out to smooth the planning processes. teabreak
  • Score: 4

10:21pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

sandgronun64 wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say.

I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure.

As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county.

Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts.

BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.
I will ??? put ???? bl**dy ??? question ??? marks ??? where ??? and ??? When ??? i want ????? get it ??? good !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]sandgronun64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say. I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure. As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county. Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts. BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.[/p][/quote]I will ??? put ???? bl**dy ??? question ??? marks ??? where ??? and ??? When ??? i want ????? get it ??? good !!!!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -19

10:24pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Logo30 says...

Clearly some of huge residents that live near to the restaurant have valid and real concerns about the quality of its construction / design and the impact this has had on their lives.

These clearly need to be resolved, and the planning officers for CBC seem satisfied that they can and within a short and mandated timeframe

Hopefully the situation can be quickly rectified for all concerned because despite what some of the the postings here contend, I would suggest this is one of the best restaurants in town.

My experience (I've been a couple of times) has always been really favourable and it is worth noting that there are in excess of 100 (out of c.140) very positive reviews on TripAdvisor.

It was also voted the best new restaurant in Essex.

Before claims to the contrary, I'm very much not involved in the restaurant business or have any links to this operation: beans on toast are about my culinary limits.

However, there are a lack of quality eateries in the town and this is definitely one of them. Moreover, it is a significant employer and it's success (albeit with good neighbour relations) can only be good for the town.......

Fingers crossed an all round satisfactory solution is achieved!!!
Clearly some of huge residents that live near to the restaurant have valid and real concerns about the quality of its construction / design and the impact this has had on their lives. These clearly need to be resolved, and the planning officers for CBC seem satisfied that they can and within a short and mandated timeframe Hopefully the situation can be quickly rectified for all concerned because despite what some of the the postings here contend, I would suggest this is one of the best restaurants in town. My experience (I've been a couple of times) has always been really favourable and it is worth noting that there are in excess of 100 (out of c.140) very positive reviews on TripAdvisor. It was also voted the best new restaurant in Essex. Before claims to the contrary, I'm very much not involved in the restaurant business or have any links to this operation: beans on toast are about my culinary limits. However, there are a lack of quality eateries in the town and this is definitely one of them. Moreover, it is a significant employer and it's success (albeit with good neighbour relations) can only be good for the town....... Fingers crossed an all round satisfactory solution is achieved!!! Logo30
  • Score: 4

10:25pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

Viable up and coming venture hahahahahaha?????!!!
!??????????????
Viable up and coming venture hahahahahaha?????!!! !?????????????? Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 0

10:26pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
sandgronun64 wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say.

I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure.

As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county.

Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts.

BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.
I will ??? put ???? bl**dy ??? question ??? marks ??? where ??? and ??? When ??? i want ????? get it ??? good !!!!!
And now perhaps in English? (as opposed to drivellish!)
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sandgronun64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Please rename yourself nothing (of any substance) to say. I find it Ironic that you appear to 'know' so much about this matter, given that the story does not say what the problems this poor lady has had to endure. As for an up and coming venture, it is almost always empty! It has no landlord (no permanent residents live there) due to the fact that the 'owner' does not even live in the same county. Your comments seem based upon prejudice rather than facts. BTW, why do you keep putting double question marks? Another pointless aspect to your comments.[/p][/quote]I will ??? put ???? bl**dy ??? question ??? marks ??? where ??? and ??? When ??? i want ????? get it ??? good !!!!![/p][/quote]And now perhaps in English? (as opposed to drivellish!) sandgronun64
  • Score: 5

10:26pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Logo30 says...

Apologies, my opening sentence should have read:

Clearly some of the residents that live near to the restaurant.......
Apologies, my opening sentence should have read: Clearly some of the residents that live near to the restaurant....... Logo30
  • Score: -1

10:27pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

Success, there's never anyone in there!!
Success, there's never anyone in there!! Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery. Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 10

10:28pm Wed 9 Apr 14

shakaboom says...

To the negative commenters on this post - why so negative, and why does one woman's misery fill you with such venom?

The family should have gone to the press long ago to let the public know just what living hell this 'establishment' has caused. I heard about the extremely shoddy brickwork that the 'establishment' constructed - it looked like it was done by a blindfolded toddler (lashings of dried cement oozing out from each brick), on the side of the family garden - where two very young children play....

Enough already, time to be decent. If you want trade, treat people with respect and fairness. Bad publicity goes a long way which is why I cross the road to avoid the place.
To the negative commenters on this post - why so negative, and why does one woman's misery fill you with such venom? The family should have gone to the press long ago to let the public know just what living hell this 'establishment' has caused. I heard about the extremely shoddy brickwork that the 'establishment' constructed - it looked like it was done by a blindfolded toddler (lashings of dried cement oozing out from each brick), on the side of the family garden - where two very young children play.... Enough already, time to be decent. If you want trade, treat people with respect and fairness. Bad publicity goes a long way which is why I cross the road to avoid the place. shakaboom
  • Score: 12

10:29pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Logo30 wrote:
Clearly some of huge residents that live near to the restaurant have valid and real concerns about the quality of its construction / design and the impact this has had on their lives.

These clearly need to be resolved, and the planning officers for CBC seem satisfied that they can and within a short and mandated timeframe

Hopefully the situation can be quickly rectified for all concerned because despite what some of the the postings here contend, I would suggest this is one of the best restaurants in town.

My experience (I've been a couple of times) has always been really favourable and it is worth noting that there are in excess of 100 (out of c.140) very positive reviews on TripAdvisor.

It was also voted the best new restaurant in Essex.

Before claims to the contrary, I'm very much not involved in the restaurant business or have any links to this operation: beans on toast are about my culinary limits.

However, there are a lack of quality eateries in the town and this is definitely one of them. Moreover, it is a significant employer and it's success (albeit with good neighbour relations) can only be good for the town.......

Fingers crossed an all round satisfactory solution is achieved!!!
Huge residents? What about the little guy?
[quote][p][bold]Logo30[/bold] wrote: Clearly some of huge residents that live near to the restaurant have valid and real concerns about the quality of its construction / design and the impact this has had on their lives. These clearly need to be resolved, and the planning officers for CBC seem satisfied that they can and within a short and mandated timeframe Hopefully the situation can be quickly rectified for all concerned because despite what some of the the postings here contend, I would suggest this is one of the best restaurants in town. My experience (I've been a couple of times) has always been really favourable and it is worth noting that there are in excess of 100 (out of c.140) very positive reviews on TripAdvisor. It was also voted the best new restaurant in Essex. Before claims to the contrary, I'm very much not involved in the restaurant business or have any links to this operation: beans on toast are about my culinary limits. However, there are a lack of quality eateries in the town and this is definitely one of them. Moreover, it is a significant employer and it's success (albeit with good neighbour relations) can only be good for the town....... Fingers crossed an all round satisfactory solution is achieved!!![/p][/quote]Huge residents? What about the little guy? sandgronun64
  • Score: 4

10:34pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.
Wow.

This sounds like the Lavelle family should be contacting 'The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door' on Channel 5!

A case on there last night sounds eerily similar.

Big sympathy!
[quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.[/p][/quote]Wow. This sounds like the Lavelle family should be contacting 'The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door' on Channel 5! A case on there last night sounds eerily similar. Big sympathy! sandgronun64
  • Score: 3

10:35pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

sandgronun64 wrote:
Logo30 wrote:
Clearly some of huge residents that live near to the restaurant have valid and real concerns about the quality of its construction / design and the impact this has had on their lives.

These clearly need to be resolved, and the planning officers for CBC seem satisfied that they can and within a short and mandated timeframe

Hopefully the situation can be quickly rectified for all concerned because despite what some of the the postings here contend, I would suggest this is one of the best restaurants in town.

My experience (I've been a couple of times) has always been really favourable and it is worth noting that there are in excess of 100 (out of c.140) very positive reviews on TripAdvisor.

It was also voted the best new restaurant in Essex.

Before claims to the contrary, I'm very much not involved in the restaurant business or have any links to this operation: beans on toast are about my culinary limits.

However, there are a lack of quality eateries in the town and this is definitely one of them. Moreover, it is a significant employer and it's success (albeit with good neighbour relations) can only be good for the town.......

Fingers crossed an all round satisfactory solution is achieved!!!
Huge residents? What about the little guy?
Haha
[quote][p][bold]sandgronun64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Logo30[/bold] wrote: Clearly some of huge residents that live near to the restaurant have valid and real concerns about the quality of its construction / design and the impact this has had on their lives. These clearly need to be resolved, and the planning officers for CBC seem satisfied that they can and within a short and mandated timeframe Hopefully the situation can be quickly rectified for all concerned because despite what some of the the postings here contend, I would suggest this is one of the best restaurants in town. My experience (I've been a couple of times) has always been really favourable and it is worth noting that there are in excess of 100 (out of c.140) very positive reviews on TripAdvisor. It was also voted the best new restaurant in Essex. Before claims to the contrary, I'm very much not involved in the restaurant business or have any links to this operation: beans on toast are about my culinary limits. However, there are a lack of quality eateries in the town and this is definitely one of them. Moreover, it is a significant employer and it's success (albeit with good neighbour relations) can only be good for the town....... Fingers crossed an all round satisfactory solution is achieved!!![/p][/quote]Huge residents? What about the little guy?[/p][/quote]Haha Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 2

10:39pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -14

10:45pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

I never said it was overpriced, you said that yourself ??
I never said it was overpriced, you said that yourself ?? Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 2

10:47pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
You say you have nothing to do with the restaurant but are so passionately defending it?

In this ranting, incoherent way?

And you say that others should get a life?

W.A.F.J!
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !![/p][/quote]You say you have nothing to do with the restaurant but are so passionately defending it? In this ranting, incoherent way? And you say that others should get a life? W.A.F.J! sandgronun64
  • Score: 2

10:48pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Sarah Wiekamp wrote:
I never said it was overpriced, you said that yourself ??
An admission of guilt perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Wiekamp[/bold] wrote: I never said it was overpriced, you said that yourself ??[/p][/quote]An admission of guilt perhaps? sandgronun64
  • Score: -2

10:51pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.
I was born / bred in Maddenborough Street !!!
[quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.[/p][/quote]I was born / bred in Maddenborough Street !!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -7

10:55pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.
I was born / bred in Maddenborough Street !!!
And now the 'Madd'eness seems to be catching!
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.[/p][/quote]I was born / bred in Maddenborough Street !!![/p][/quote]And now the 'Madd'eness seems to be catching! sandgronun64
  • Score: 2

10:55pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

sandgronun64 wrote:
Sarah Wiekamp wrote:
I never said it was overpriced, you said that yourself ??
An admission of guilt perhaps?
Clearly
[quote][p][bold]sandgronun64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sarah Wiekamp[/bold] wrote: I never said it was overpriced, you said that yourself ??[/p][/quote]An admission of guilt perhaps?[/p][/quote]Clearly Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: -1

10:57pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation!
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !![/p][/quote]you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation! Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 7

10:57pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

And what have single mothers and bed sirs got to do with the price of shepherds pie???????
And what have single mothers and bed sirs got to do with the price of shepherds pie??????? Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 7

11:03pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move !
Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.
I was born / bred in Maddenborough Street !!!
And? What does this have to do with the specifics of the discussion in question?
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Ms Lavelle.....were you not notified of the building plans ?? Did you think such a big refurbishment comes with little noise or disruption ? Did it not cross your mind that cooking comes with smells ? Did you not realise in order to lessen the smells...ducting / fans / filters would come into play ?? And they are not 100% silent ?? Surely any noise stops within timings and guidelines.What would you rather....a derelict , drug abusing , squatters paradise ?? Or a viable , up and coming venture , when all around the town are failures ? I suggset you stick a peg on your nose , wear earplugs and ask the landlord if he couldnt waiver 1 free meal , once a week !!! Now , stop with the moaning...or move ![/p][/quote]Dear SOMETHING2SAY - I'm a former neighbour who has now moved away. Obviously you're not a neighbour present or former or you wouldn't have written what you have. All the neighbours were notified of the building plans and loads of us objected, this included English Heritage, Colchester Civic Trust, The Dutch Quarter Association but with little change from the original submission the plans were passed by delegated powers. This was unfair as it had a big impact on the surrounding neighbours. Obviously the bigger the development, the longer it would take to build. It is still a mystery why such a development should take 3 years to build/renovate. It is perhaps because many of the workmen just stood around chatting out the front, to anyone who would chat to them day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year! In the meantime, when they did work, neighbours had to put up with the daily banging, piling, hammering, dust, fumes, foul language (including the archaeologist who was worse than the builders) what a nightmare. I miss the Dutch Quarter but I do not miss the daily distress that the building site caused me and other neighbours. Most days in the 3 year period there were 3 - 4 vehicles parked outside The Stockwell and up the street. I know from my neighbour who asked the council how many special dispensation tickets had been sold to The Stockwell during the 3 years of construction, to allow them to park on the double yellow lines outside The Stockwell. The total sold came to 0. Some cars were parked all day, every day, day upon day, week upon week, month upon month, year upon year WITHOUT any sanction. What about scaffolding? The first lot was put up for 1.5 years! I ask you, SOMETHING2SAY, is this not a nightmare? The lady in the story, Mrs Lavelle (who I know well) not only had to put up with the scaffolding next door, but The Stockwell placed several metres of scaffolding over her house and actually sitting physically on her roof for 1.5 years without asking her consent in the first place!!!!!! Did you also know that during the renovation work The Stockwell knocked through from their side into Mrs Lavelle's building so that she could see the workmen on a daily basis. The dust from the site lead to asthmatic problems in one of her children. I know she wrote to them about this and the owner wrote back to say that it was only "hayfever" even though I know the doctor has written a letter qualifying her diagnosis. I could go on and on and on not just about problems Mrs Lavelle incurred but from other neighbours, including myself. So to see your post on the Gazette website making out as if this is one neighbour who should stick a peg on her nose, ear plugs in her ears etc is inconsiderate to say the very least. In fact, your comment is so derisory that it makes me believe that you are the owner, as your attitude is similar. Poor Mrs Lavelle and family, poor other neighbours and I feel sorry for you that you can leave a comment such as this in the wake of other people's misery.[/p][/quote]I was born / bred in Maddenborough Street !!![/p][/quote]And? What does this have to do with the specifics of the discussion in question? Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 3

11:03pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!!
Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -4

11:03pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Sarah Wiekamp wrote:
And what have single mothers and bed sirs got to do with the price of shepherds pie???????
If there are bed sirs are they really single mothers?

Sorry couldn't resist that one!
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Wiekamp[/bold] wrote: And what have single mothers and bed sirs got to do with the price of shepherds pie???????[/p][/quote]If there are bed sirs are they really single mothers? Sorry couldn't resist that one! sandgronun64
  • Score: 4

11:14pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!!
isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether!
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!![/p][/quote]isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether! Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 7

11:15pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation!
No..im saying that ANYONE in this crap econimic climate should be happy to have a home....even if it means living by a noisy smelly pub !!
[quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !![/p][/quote]you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation![/p][/quote]No..im saying that ANYONE in this crap econimic climate should be happy to have a home....even if it means living by a noisy smelly pub !! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -11

11:15pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

I am not sure who ms levelle is so I am sorry if she is miserable!
I am not sure who ms levelle is so I am sorry if she is miserable! Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 4

11:16pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!!
so, that will be about what ... eleven, twelve people?

Locals (generally) don't go there - at least not since it stopped being a pub.

It is no longer a community hub ... just a place for people that like overpaying for their food.

Does the place still have a named head chef? The first two left ... without any explanation ... seemingly quite suddenly. The staff turnover is huge and the wages (staff tell me) are pitiful.

If you want fine dining, then go to the Balkerne and Colne restaurant - cheaper, yet consistently better (rated -no.1)on trip advisor. Better still, go to one of the many Indian, Turkish or Chinese establishments, also better rated on trip advisor. This establishment is not what it cites itself to be (i.e.. a "Premier British Fine Dining Establishment.").

It was never like this in the old days ... on "Maddenborough" Street.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!![/p][/quote]so, that will be about what ... eleven, twelve people? Locals (generally) don't go there - at least not since it stopped being a pub. It is no longer a community hub ... just a place for people that like overpaying for their food. Does the place still have a named head chef? The first two left ... without any explanation ... seemingly quite suddenly. The staff turnover is huge and the wages (staff tell me) are pitiful. If you want fine dining, then go to the Balkerne and Colne restaurant - cheaper, yet consistently better (rated -no.1)on trip advisor. Better still, go to one of the many Indian, Turkish or Chinese establishments, also better rated on trip advisor. This establishment is not what it cites itself to be (i.e.. a "Premier British Fine Dining Establishment."). It was never like this in the old days ... on "Maddenborough" Street. sandgronun64
  • Score: 4

11:16pm Wed 9 Apr 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies. A Very Private Gentleman
  • Score: 1

11:25pm Wed 9 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!!
isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether!
"HIGH HORSE" ! Now get off !
[quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!![/p][/quote]isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether![/p][/quote]"HIGH HORSE" ! Now get off ! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: -7

11:28pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation!
No..im saying that ANYONE in this crap econimic climate should be happy to have a home....even if it means living by a noisy smelly pub !!
so you're admitting it's a noisy, smelly pub and it's ok for single mothers and ethnic groups to live next to or indeed Mr and Mrs Lavelle who are award-winning authors, accomplished lecturers and broadcasters and not in the single mother category. In fact, no it's not, no one should have to live next to that.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !![/p][/quote]you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation![/p][/quote]No..im saying that ANYONE in this crap econimic climate should be happy to have a home....even if it means living by a noisy smelly pub !![/p][/quote]so you're admitting it's a noisy, smelly pub and it's ok for single mothers and ethnic groups to live next to or indeed Mr and Mrs Lavelle who are award-winning authors, accomplished lecturers and broadcasters and not in the single mother category. In fact, no it's not, no one should have to live next to that. Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 1

11:29pm Wed 9 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
How are the houses paid for from 'your' back?

There are many privately owned houses there. Indeed, all of the immediate neighbours are privately owned.

I dis have some difficulty in dissecting your comment, and lost the sense of it (as I suspect you did when writing it).

As for the bloke trying to make a crust, is this a joke. It is billed as a fine dining restaurant, costing over a million pounds to renovate ... not a bl*ody transport caff!

BTW there are two letter s in p i s s. Nobody in over a decade has ever done this on my doorstep. It is a nice area. What a yobbish sentiment you have conveyed.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]How are the houses paid for from 'your' back? There are many privately owned houses there. Indeed, all of the immediate neighbours are privately owned. I dis have some difficulty in dissecting your comment, and lost the sense of it (as I suspect you did when writing it). As for the bloke trying to make a crust, is this a joke. It is billed as a fine dining restaurant, costing over a million pounds to renovate ... not a bl*ody transport caff! BTW there are two letter s in p i s s. Nobody in over a decade has ever done this on my doorstep. It is a nice area. What a yobbish sentiment you have conveyed. sandgronun64
  • Score: 5

11:36pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!!
isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether!
"HIGH HORSE" ! Now get off !
two words "nerve" and "touched" come to mind! What gives you the impression I'm atop a high horse? I'm a single mum remember
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!![/p][/quote]isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether![/p][/quote]"HIGH HORSE" ! Now get off ![/p][/quote]two words "nerve" and "touched" come to mind! What gives you the impression I'm atop a high horse? I'm a single mum remember Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 1

11:36pm Wed 9 Apr 14

historyman22 says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!!
isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether!
"HIGH HORSE" ! Now get off !
Low brow?

Try and step up ... there's a good chap.

P.S. What do you have against equestrians?
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: Well...for those that have eaten/drunk there......that now jump on the bandwagon...you have helped in Ms levelle's misery !!!!![/p][/quote]isn't this discussion supposed to be about why Mrs Lavelle has been put through hell? Not who does or does not eat at The Stockwell, not the percentage of Colchester that are single mothers and of those, single mothers who live in bedsits, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid, single mothers who live in bedsits which are squalid and situated above a Chinese/kebab shops, oh and those young couples who haven't been on drugs but should be grateful for a roof over their heads!!!! Bit of a cheap comment about murder in light of recent tragic events. I think your questions, SOMETHING2SAY, have been answered more than comprehensively. You clearly don't like what you have been told and have resorted to straying from the topic altogether![/p][/quote]"HIGH HORSE" ! Now get off ![/p][/quote]Low brow? Try and step up ... there's a good chap. P.S. What do you have against equestrians? historyman22
  • Score: 8

11:39pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Hayley Management says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
At first I felt sorry for your cause and then I read the last part of your comment. It has no relation to what is happening here. If you feel so strongly about your cause then please relate specifically to this and not to jump on the bandwagon of others and make them out to be ungrateful. You are the bully and please do not comment on this thread again as you are selfish in your cause.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]At first I felt sorry for your cause and then I read the last part of your comment. It has no relation to what is happening here. If you feel so strongly about your cause then please relate specifically to this and not to jump on the bandwagon of others and make them out to be ungrateful. You are the bully and please do not comment on this thread again as you are selfish in your cause. Hayley Management
  • Score: 5

11:41pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Hayley Management says...

Hayley Management wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
At first I felt sorry for your cause and then I read the last part of your comment. It has no relation to what is happening here. If you feel so strongly about your cause then please relate specifically to this and not to jump on the bandwagon of others and make them out to be ungrateful. You are the bully and please do not comment on this thread again as you are selfish in your cause.
for leaving this comment, you are no gentleman!
[quote][p][bold]Hayley Management[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]At first I felt sorry for your cause and then I read the last part of your comment. It has no relation to what is happening here. If you feel so strongly about your cause then please relate specifically to this and not to jump on the bandwagon of others and make them out to be ungrateful. You are the bully and please do not comment on this thread again as you are selfish in your cause.[/p][/quote]for leaving this comment, you are no gentleman! Hayley Management
  • Score: -2

11:42pm Wed 9 Apr 14

historyman22 says...

Hayley Management wrote:
Hayley Management wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
At first I felt sorry for your cause and then I read the last part of your comment. It has no relation to what is happening here. If you feel so strongly about your cause then please relate specifically to this and not to jump on the bandwagon of others and make them out to be ungrateful. You are the bully and please do not comment on this thread again as you are selfish in your cause.
for leaving this comment, you are no gentleman!
It was a woman pretending to be a man?
[quote][p][bold]Hayley Management[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hayley Management[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]At first I felt sorry for your cause and then I read the last part of your comment. It has no relation to what is happening here. If you feel so strongly about your cause then please relate specifically to this and not to jump on the bandwagon of others and make them out to be ungrateful. You are the bully and please do not comment on this thread again as you are selfish in your cause.[/p][/quote]for leaving this comment, you are no gentleman![/p][/quote]It was a woman pretending to be a man? historyman22
  • Score: 0

11:43pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

sandgronun64 wrote:
A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
How are the houses paid for from 'your' back?

There are many privately owned houses there. Indeed, all of the immediate neighbours are privately owned.

I dis have some difficulty in dissecting your comment, and lost the sense of it (as I suspect you did when writing it).

As for the bloke trying to make a crust, is this a joke. It is billed as a fine dining restaurant, costing over a million pounds to renovate ... not a bl*ody transport caff!

BTW there are two letter s in p i s s. Nobody in over a decade has ever done this on my doorstep. It is a nice area. What a yobbish sentiment you have conveyed.
Sounds like a builder, it's not bob-he is 'somethingtosay.'
[quote][p][bold]sandgronun64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]How are the houses paid for from 'your' back? There are many privately owned houses there. Indeed, all of the immediate neighbours are privately owned. I dis have some difficulty in dissecting your comment, and lost the sense of it (as I suspect you did when writing it). As for the bloke trying to make a crust, is this a joke. It is billed as a fine dining restaurant, costing over a million pounds to renovate ... not a bl*ody transport caff! BTW there are two letter s in p i s s. Nobody in over a decade has ever done this on my doorstep. It is a nice area. What a yobbish sentiment you have conveyed.[/p][/quote]Sounds like a builder, it's not bob-he is 'somethingtosay.' Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: -3

11:48pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
are you implying that "yobbos" frequent The Stockwell? I think the "bloke trying to make a crust" might have something to say about that! Indeed I'm sure Mrs Lavelle might too as I believe drinking in the street might have been an issue contributory to Mrs Lavelle's hell and that experienced by many other neighbours.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]are you implying that "yobbos" frequent The Stockwell? I think the "bloke trying to make a crust" might have something to say about that! Indeed I'm sure Mrs Lavelle might too as I believe drinking in the street might have been an issue contributory to Mrs Lavelle's hell and that experienced by many other neighbours. Ilovecolchester
  • Score: -1

11:52pm Wed 9 Apr 14

partyplanner says...

Scoot wrote:
The Gazette at its best.... Please expand why it has been a hell. My Maths may not be brilliant but its been hell for 4 years but the place has been open 1 year max. The breaches in planning would only come to light once the place opened so what about the previous 3 years ? Noise from builders or noisy archaeologists ? I'd much rather a place was being renovated and rebuilt than left to fester so that vermin can run free and drug users etc can use it as a place to pursue their activities.
Scoot, your submission that you are not brilliantly educated is perhaps not best shared with the minions! The local residents (not you) have had to live with the builders noise, vehicles all the way (parked) up the road, construction traffic, construction workers swearing, construction workers peeing in the garden (and then they had to get a toilet after a complaint), breaking up of asbestos roof which was broken up beside where kids play, knocking through party walls so the neighbours can see through to the neighbouring property, etc. is not acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]Scoot[/bold] wrote: The Gazette at its best.... Please expand why it has been a hell. My Maths may not be brilliant but its been hell for 4 years but the place has been open 1 year max. The breaches in planning would only come to light once the place opened so what about the previous 3 years ? Noise from builders or noisy archaeologists ? I'd much rather a place was being renovated and rebuilt than left to fester so that vermin can run free and drug users etc can use it as a place to pursue their activities.[/p][/quote]Scoot, your submission that you are not brilliantly educated is perhaps not best shared with the minions! The local residents (not you) have had to live with the builders noise, vehicles all the way (parked) up the road, construction traffic, construction workers swearing, construction workers peeing in the garden (and then they had to get a toilet after a complaint), breaking up of asbestos roof which was broken up beside where kids play, knocking through party walls so the neighbours can see through to the neighbouring property, etc. is not acceptable. partyplanner
  • Score: 4

11:55pm Wed 9 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

The construction workers were peeing in the garden?
The construction workers were peeing in the garden? Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 3

12:07am Thu 10 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.
Having considered your comment further, I truly hope that the situation in Stanway is resolved quickly.

It does seem strange though that you appear to think that when locals make a stand against a bully, and an inept council, that this somehow makes them 'snobby.'

If the problem in Stanway is as bad as you say it is, and if you are local and affected by it, then you are morally obliged as a citizen of a democratic society to get organized and fight it. It is after all, your fight.

This one, the one in the Dutch Quarter it would seem, is not ... unless you haven't told us something that is?

The last sentiment (from you remains reprehensible though. I remain, hopeful, that the 'Stanway situation' is resolved, preferably by your timely action ... not just talk.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: The council has not bothered to intervene properly to all the poor people living in Stanway that are covered in sand and dust night and day with the development going on down there why? 2 years now of endless drilling housing shaking. Damping down is a tractor with a brass tap on the back, with Boss Teflon stating dust and sand has to be in your hair and to impede your breath before it is classed as a contravention. The reason why nothing is done is ENV Health gets tipped off, before they go to slap wrists or get fed BS by the site Oppo. Or another reason is the 20 Million good ones, followed by about another 120 Million reasons in the offing. Who is going to take on a company with £Billion turnover? But they will turn over a little bloke with a couple of fans, in snobbo quarter, Oh my St Michael underwear stinks of burger & chips. Most of the houses near the boozer are paid for on the backs of us anyway. First you don't want cars driving down or parking there, now you don't want this and that form a bloke trying to make a crust. I hope the yobbos p*s on your door steps at night after they have had a good time, you ungrateful lot what a bunch of moaning bullies.[/p][/quote]Having considered your comment further, I truly hope that the situation in Stanway is resolved quickly. It does seem strange though that you appear to think that when locals make a stand against a bully, and an inept council, that this somehow makes them 'snobby.' If the problem in Stanway is as bad as you say it is, and if you are local and affected by it, then you are morally obliged as a citizen of a democratic society to get organized and fight it. It is after all, your fight. This one, the one in the Dutch Quarter it would seem, is not ... unless you haven't told us something that is? The last sentiment (from you remains reprehensible though. I remain, hopeful, that the 'Stanway situation' is resolved, preferably by your timely action ... not just talk. sandgronun64
  • Score: 5

12:12am Thu 10 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

Scoot wrote:
The Gazette at its best.... Please expand why it has been a hell. My Maths may not be brilliant but its been hell for 4 years but the place has been open 1 year max. The breaches in planning would only come to light once the place opened so what about the previous 3 years ? Noise from builders or noisy archaeologists ? I'd much rather a place was being renovated and rebuilt than left to fester so that vermin can run free and drug users etc can use it as a place to pursue their activities.
now there we go again, more knocking the minorities. A novel idea that drug users should use The Stockwell to pursue their activities - I presume "drug users" like the rest of the population pursue such activities as eating and drinking? As for vermin, sounds to me like they've been allowed to run riot upsetting the neighbours for the past 3 years literally raising hell! You might well rather a place was being renovated, Scoot, and good for you, but I bet not if you were living right next door.
[quote][p][bold]Scoot[/bold] wrote: The Gazette at its best.... Please expand why it has been a hell. My Maths may not be brilliant but its been hell for 4 years but the place has been open 1 year max. The breaches in planning would only come to light once the place opened so what about the previous 3 years ? Noise from builders or noisy archaeologists ? I'd much rather a place was being renovated and rebuilt than left to fester so that vermin can run free and drug users etc can use it as a place to pursue their activities.[/p][/quote]now there we go again, more knocking the minorities. A novel idea that drug users should use The Stockwell to pursue their activities - I presume "drug users" like the rest of the population pursue such activities as eating and drinking? As for vermin, sounds to me like they've been allowed to run riot upsetting the neighbours for the past 3 years literally raising hell! You might well rather a place was being renovated, Scoot, and good for you, but I bet not if you were living right next door. Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 3

12:16am Thu 10 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Sarah Wiekamp wrote:
The construction workers were peeing in the garden?
Apparently so. Some of the neighbours reported it to Health and Safety and the developer then installed a portaloo.

I am told that it wasn't the only time that neighbours raised health and safety concerns.

The whole construction was (in the opinion at least four of the adjoining households) done on the cheap. One ex construction site manager that lived in a flat overlooking (the extension) site, said to me that it was "...the messiest 'effin site he had ever seen in over fifty years."

No wonder the neighbours lost their patience in the end.
[quote][p][bold]Sarah Wiekamp[/bold] wrote: The construction workers were peeing in the garden?[/p][/quote]Apparently so. Some of the neighbours reported it to Health and Safety and the developer then installed a portaloo. I am told that it wasn't the only time that neighbours raised health and safety concerns. The whole construction was (in the opinion at least four of the adjoining households) done on the cheap. One ex construction site manager that lived in a flat overlooking (the extension) site, said to me that it was "...the messiest 'effin site he had ever seen in over fifty years." No wonder the neighbours lost their patience in the end. sandgronun64
  • Score: 3

4:57am Thu 10 Apr 14

HARRY438 says...

Not making rash judgements on here but one of the reasons the site looked such a mess when they tried to construct the footings for the extension was because they were trying to build on an ancient well which had to be drained,taking months before the cement could be poured. This was just one of many unforeseen pitfalls that hampered progress of the project and put costs into the strat. From a shabby squat to a high end listed building deserves credit but comes at a cost ,unfortunately the Lavelle family are still paying for that with the loss of quality to their daily life. As for the petty sniping that's going on it says more about the oafish bigots than about the local people, many of whom were hoping for a community pub and got a prohibitively expensivo culinary experience instead. Other thing about grammar and spelling errors,many people are using iPads these days with predictive texts. ....... Others are just using tablets.
Hope the families affected by these issues will soon get some kind of closure. ( Probably the pub,the way it's going )
Not making rash judgements on here but one of the reasons the site looked such a mess when they tried to construct the footings for the extension was because they were trying to build on an ancient well which had to be drained,taking months before the cement could be poured. This was just one of many unforeseen pitfalls that hampered progress of the project and put costs into the strat. From a shabby squat to a high end listed building deserves credit but comes at a cost ,unfortunately the Lavelle family are still paying for that with the loss of quality to their daily life. As for the petty sniping that's going on it says more about the oafish bigots than about the local people, many of whom were hoping for a community pub and got a prohibitively expensivo culinary experience instead. Other thing about grammar and spelling errors,many people are using iPads these days with predictive texts. ....... Others are just using tablets. Hope the families affected by these issues will soon get some kind of closure. ( Probably the pub,the way it's going ) HARRY438
  • Score: 10

9:16am Thu 10 Apr 14

Ethics_Guy says...

I would like to add my two penny worth to this piece... As an ex resident of the Dutch Quarter, I fondly remember the Stockwell (under the stewardship of former long standing landlord Brian) and what a delightful little hub of the community it was. Brian knew everyone in the Dutch Quarter and had a strong sense of community and he knew and looked after his neighbours. What a shame that what was previously a cornerstone of the Dutch Quarter community has now become so contentious and a such a source of distress to its neighbours. I also know the Lavelles and can I say they are among the most reasonable people I know and certainly not "moaners" or "whingers". They are liberal, easy going people and not the intolerant complainers some seem to be implying in these comments. It seems they are not alone with their complaints either but as they are the immediate neighbours they are the ones who are taking a stand, naturally. I really hope these issues they have can be sorted out. They've put up with this for years so I hope it can finally be resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned. All the best to everyone in the Dutch Quarter and may peace be restored :)
I would like to add my two penny worth to this piece... As an ex resident of the Dutch Quarter, I fondly remember the Stockwell (under the stewardship of former long standing landlord Brian) and what a delightful little hub of the community it was. Brian knew everyone in the Dutch Quarter and had a strong sense of community and he knew and looked after his neighbours. What a shame that what was previously a cornerstone of the Dutch Quarter community has now become so contentious and a such a source of distress to its neighbours. I also know the Lavelles and can I say they are among the most reasonable people I know and certainly not "moaners" or "whingers". They are liberal, easy going people and not the intolerant complainers some seem to be implying in these comments. It seems they are not alone with their complaints either but as they are the immediate neighbours they are the ones who are taking a stand, naturally. I really hope these issues they have can be sorted out. They've put up with this for years so I hope it can finally be resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned. All the best to everyone in the Dutch Quarter and may peace be restored :) Ethics_Guy
  • Score: 12

9:19am Thu 10 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
Ilovecolchester wrote:
SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation!
No..im saying that ANYONE in this crap econimic climate should be happy to have a home....even if it means living by a noisy smelly pub !!
Anyone should be glad to have a home, really? Of course they are glad, I am sure they have worked hard for their home. What a strange thing to put, you are making it sound like they should be grateful.
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ilovecolchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !![/p][/quote]you say you have nothing to do with this and yet again you seem to know an awful lot about who should and should not comment, what should be commented on etc. You either are the owner or work for them and therefore you should know how many people did object to the initial plans and how disappointed we all were when the plans for the huge extension were passed despite our objections at the outset and since. Why are you quoting single mothers, Chinese/kebab outlets etc - your prejudices against these minorities are noted and I AM a single mother, I do not live above a Chinese/kebab shop and how dare you suggest we should be grateful for what we're given. You are guilty of gross generalisation![/p][/quote]No..im saying that ANYONE in this crap econimic climate should be happy to have a home....even if it means living by a noisy smelly pub !![/p][/quote]Anyone should be glad to have a home, really? Of course they are glad, I am sure they have worked hard for their home. What a strange thing to put, you are making it sound like they should be grateful. Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 6

9:21am Thu 10 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

Ethics_Guy wrote:
I would like to add my two penny worth to this piece... As an ex resident of the Dutch Quarter, I fondly remember the Stockwell (under the stewardship of former long standing landlord Brian) and what a delightful little hub of the community it was. Brian knew everyone in the Dutch Quarter and had a strong sense of community and he knew and looked after his neighbours. What a shame that what was previously a cornerstone of the Dutch Quarter community has now become so contentious and a such a source of distress to its neighbours. I also know the Lavelles and can I say they are among the most reasonable people I know and certainly not "moaners" or "whingers". They are liberal, easy going people and not the intolerant complainers some seem to be implying in these comments. It seems they are not alone with their complaints either but as they are the immediate neighbours they are the ones who are taking a stand, naturally. I really hope these issues they have can be sorted out. They've put up with this for years so I hope it can finally be resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned. All the best to everyone in the Dutch Quarter and may peace be restored :)
Brian Jerome for king!
[quote][p][bold]Ethics_Guy[/bold] wrote: I would like to add my two penny worth to this piece... As an ex resident of the Dutch Quarter, I fondly remember the Stockwell (under the stewardship of former long standing landlord Brian) and what a delightful little hub of the community it was. Brian knew everyone in the Dutch Quarter and had a strong sense of community and he knew and looked after his neighbours. What a shame that what was previously a cornerstone of the Dutch Quarter community has now become so contentious and a such a source of distress to its neighbours. I also know the Lavelles and can I say they are among the most reasonable people I know and certainly not "moaners" or "whingers". They are liberal, easy going people and not the intolerant complainers some seem to be implying in these comments. It seems they are not alone with their complaints either but as they are the immediate neighbours they are the ones who are taking a stand, naturally. I really hope these issues they have can be sorted out. They've put up with this for years so I hope it can finally be resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned. All the best to everyone in the Dutch Quarter and may peace be restored :)[/p][/quote]Brian Jerome for king! Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 7

12:51pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Scoot says...

What I find amazing is that if everyone living around the Stockwell whilst it was being renovated then why hasn't the Gazette reported it ? Surely if a complaint to the developer was just shunned away thats a perfect reason to get the press on your side. If a complaint about parking was shunned thats another reason to complain to the press. The alleged unsafe removal of asbestos - didn't anyone complain to the planning dept and inspector sent out ? if not then another reason to complain to the press. With what others have said went on prior to the opening this would have been 'bread and butter' to the press. If there weren't these breaches of planning regulations would all these complaints have been aired ??
Partyplanner - just to clarify my degree didn't come from a redbrick University and I only got a decent grade in A-level pure maths and statistics (when they were A-levels not glorified GCSE's)
What I find amazing is that if everyone living around the Stockwell whilst it was being renovated then why hasn't the Gazette reported it ? Surely if a complaint to the developer was just shunned away thats a perfect reason to get the press on your side. If a complaint about parking was shunned thats another reason to complain to the press. The alleged unsafe removal of asbestos - didn't anyone complain to the planning dept and inspector sent out ? if not then another reason to complain to the press. With what others have said went on prior to the opening this would have been 'bread and butter' to the press. If there weren't these breaches of planning regulations would all these complaints have been aired ?? Partyplanner - just to clarify my degree didn't come from a redbrick University and I only got a decent grade in A-level pure maths and statistics (when they were A-levels not glorified GCSE's) Scoot
  • Score: -2

2:53pm Thu 10 Apr 14

partyplanner says...

Scoot wrote:
What I find amazing is that if everyone living around the Stockwell whilst it was being renovated then why hasn't the Gazette reported it ? Surely if a complaint to the developer was just shunned away thats a perfect reason to get the press on your side. If a complaint about parking was shunned thats another reason to complain to the press. The alleged unsafe removal of asbestos - didn't anyone complain to the planning dept and inspector sent out ? if not then another reason to complain to the press. With what others have said went on prior to the opening this would have been 'bread and butter' to the press. If there weren't these breaches of planning regulations would all these complaints have been aired ??
Partyplanner - just to clarify my degree didn't come from a redbrick University and I only got a decent grade in A-level pure maths and statistics (when they were A-levels not glorified GCSE's)
Mr Scoot...... I must point out to you the proper procedure for complaints about planning go to the Council and not the press. You really are not too bright are you.
[quote][p][bold]Scoot[/bold] wrote: What I find amazing is that if everyone living around the Stockwell whilst it was being renovated then why hasn't the Gazette reported it ? Surely if a complaint to the developer was just shunned away thats a perfect reason to get the press on your side. If a complaint about parking was shunned thats another reason to complain to the press. The alleged unsafe removal of asbestos - didn't anyone complain to the planning dept and inspector sent out ? if not then another reason to complain to the press. With what others have said went on prior to the opening this would have been 'bread and butter' to the press. If there weren't these breaches of planning regulations would all these complaints have been aired ?? Partyplanner - just to clarify my degree didn't come from a redbrick University and I only got a decent grade in A-level pure maths and statistics (when they were A-levels not glorified GCSE's)[/p][/quote]Mr Scoot...... I must point out to you the proper procedure for complaints about planning go to the Council and not the press. You really are not too bright are you. partyplanner
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Thu 10 Apr 14

PaulWagland says...

Having lived in the Dutch Quarter (next door to 'Vallies') and now behind the Albatta Café, I really feel for the Lavelles. People who run such businesses often think they have a right to do whatever they like to make a profit, and have no respect for the well-being of their neighbours. Councils are largely powerless (or at least ineffective) when it comes to noise, but planning breeches are taken much more seriously. I know the Lavelles through my work - they are good people; rational, reasonable and well-intentioned. I wish them the best resolution in this situation. I for one will be boycotting the Stockwell.
Having lived in the Dutch Quarter (next door to 'Vallies') and now behind the Albatta Café, I really feel for the Lavelles. People who run such businesses often think they have a right to do whatever they like to make a profit, and have no respect for the well-being of their neighbours. Councils are largely powerless (or at least ineffective) when it comes to noise, but planning breeches are taken much more seriously. I know the Lavelles through my work - they are good people; rational, reasonable and well-intentioned. I wish them the best resolution in this situation. I for one will be boycotting the Stockwell. PaulWagland
  • Score: 7

5:59pm Fri 11 Apr 14

jessica89 says...

i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.
i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell. jessica89
  • Score: -5

6:40pm Fri 11 Apr 14

partyplanner says...

jessica89 wrote:
i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.
Jessica 89 what a fibber you are. You do not live right next door as all the neighbours who do have complained to planning (see Council website) and there is no-one who lives right next door with two small children except the lady in the story. As for the restraining order (which you spelt wrong) I think it may have been the other way around . I think you are probably someone who works for the Stockwell making your thread completely up.
[quote][p][bold]jessica89[/bold] wrote: i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.[/p][/quote]Jessica 89 what a fibber you are. You do not live right next door as all the neighbours who do have complained to planning (see Council website) and there is no-one who lives right next door with two small children except the lady in the story. As for the restraining order (which you spelt wrong) I think it may have been the other way around . I think you are probably someone who works for the Stockwell making your thread completely up. partyplanner
  • Score: 6

7:22pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Mick Lavelle says...

jessica89 wrote:
i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.
I feel that it is now time for me to break my silence on this matter.
First, this comment (the one from jessica89) is completely false.

1 My house is the only one that adjoins the Stockwell – the only one right next door.

2 My wife and I have two small children aged 4 and 8. No other neighbours have such similarly aged children.

3 None of the neighbours surrounding the Stockwell is called Jessica; although I presume this to be a pseudonym.

4 The nature of a restraining order is that it can only be issued by due legal process – i.e. through a court. No such notice has ever been issued against my wife.

5 Despite early, quite cordial relations, the general behaviour of the site staff was hostile toward us following our complaining after our property was damaged by their action, much of which we have had to rectify ourselves. This is all a matter of legal record.

6 Jessica89, you are therefore fraudulent in this claim and your comment is (as I have already said) entirely fictitious.

To all the commenters who have been critical of my wife in these threads, I say that we enjoyed many years of good relations with the former landlords (Brian Jerome and also Sue and Paul Brown). We have and remain on extremely good terms with both these parties, despite their having moved on. We were regulars in the pub and even had very good relations with the (so-called) squatters that occupied it before it was sold by Admiral Taverns. We also have very good relations with almost all neighbours. Nobody of course is universally liked but we are on friendly terms with all the owners of the properties that adjoin the former Stockwell Arms.

To those who have left messages of support, my heartfelt thanks. My thanks also to those people who have helped and supported us through this. It WAS a nightmare. Hopefully since the Planning Committee voted to enforce the planning conditions last night, it will soon be over.

Needless to say, I will no longer be using the Stockwell.

If you want a decent pint, try the Victoria.
[quote][p][bold]jessica89[/bold] wrote: i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.[/p][/quote]I feel that it is now time for me to break my silence on this matter. First, this comment (the one from jessica89) is completely false. 1 My house is the only one that adjoins the Stockwell – the only one right next door. 2 My wife and I have two small children aged 4 and 8. No other neighbours have such similarly aged children. 3 None of the neighbours surrounding the Stockwell is called Jessica; although I presume this to be a pseudonym. 4 The nature of a restraining order is that it can only be issued by due legal process – i.e. through a court. No such notice has ever been issued against my wife. 5 Despite early, quite cordial relations, the general behaviour of the site staff was hostile toward us following our complaining after our property was damaged by their action, much of which we have had to rectify ourselves. This is all a matter of legal record. 6 Jessica89, you are therefore fraudulent in this claim and your comment is (as I have already said) entirely fictitious. To all the commenters who have been critical of my wife in these threads, I say that we enjoyed many years of good relations with the former landlords (Brian Jerome and also Sue and Paul Brown). We have and remain on extremely good terms with both these parties, despite their having moved on. We were regulars in the pub and even had very good relations with the (so-called) squatters that occupied it before it was sold by Admiral Taverns. We also have very good relations with almost all neighbours. Nobody of course is universally liked but we are on friendly terms with all the owners of the properties that adjoin the former Stockwell Arms. To those who have left messages of support, my heartfelt thanks. My thanks also to those people who have helped and supported us through this. It WAS a nightmare. Hopefully since the Planning Committee voted to enforce the planning conditions last night, it will soon be over. Needless to say, I will no longer be using the Stockwell. If you want a decent pint, try the Victoria. Mick Lavelle
  • Score: 13

9:24pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Sarah Wiekamp says...

Mick Lavelle wrote:
jessica89 wrote:
i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.
I feel that it is now time for me to break my silence on this matter.
First, this comment (the one from jessica89) is completely false.

1 My house is the only one that adjoins the Stockwell – the only one right next door.

2 My wife and I have two small children aged 4 and 8. No other neighbours have such similarly aged children.

3 None of the neighbours surrounding the Stockwell is called Jessica; although I presume this to be a pseudonym.

4 The nature of a restraining order is that it can only be issued by due legal process – i.e. through a court. No such notice has ever been issued against my wife.

5 Despite early, quite cordial relations, the general behaviour of the site staff was hostile toward us following our complaining after our property was damaged by their action, much of which we have had to rectify ourselves. This is all a matter of legal record.

6 Jessica89, you are therefore fraudulent in this claim and your comment is (as I have already said) entirely fictitious.

To all the commenters who have been critical of my wife in these threads, I say that we enjoyed many years of good relations with the former landlords (Brian Jerome and also Sue and Paul Brown). We have and remain on extremely good terms with both these parties, despite their having moved on. We were regulars in the pub and even had very good relations with the (so-called) squatters that occupied it before it was sold by Admiral Taverns. We also have very good relations with almost all neighbours. Nobody of course is universally liked but we are on friendly terms with all the owners of the properties that adjoin the former Stockwell Arms.

To those who have left messages of support, my heartfelt thanks. My thanks also to those people who have helped and supported us through this. It WAS a nightmare. Hopefully since the Planning Committee voted to enforce the planning conditions last night, it will soon be over.

Needless to say, I will no longer be using the Stockwell.

If you want a decent pint, try the Victoria.
Their shepherds pie is also less than £17.95 and remains constructed!
[quote][p][bold]Mick Lavelle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jessica89[/bold] wrote: i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.[/p][/quote]I feel that it is now time for me to break my silence on this matter. First, this comment (the one from jessica89) is completely false. 1 My house is the only one that adjoins the Stockwell – the only one right next door. 2 My wife and I have two small children aged 4 and 8. No other neighbours have such similarly aged children. 3 None of the neighbours surrounding the Stockwell is called Jessica; although I presume this to be a pseudonym. 4 The nature of a restraining order is that it can only be issued by due legal process – i.e. through a court. No such notice has ever been issued against my wife. 5 Despite early, quite cordial relations, the general behaviour of the site staff was hostile toward us following our complaining after our property was damaged by their action, much of which we have had to rectify ourselves. This is all a matter of legal record. 6 Jessica89, you are therefore fraudulent in this claim and your comment is (as I have already said) entirely fictitious. To all the commenters who have been critical of my wife in these threads, I say that we enjoyed many years of good relations with the former landlords (Brian Jerome and also Sue and Paul Brown). We have and remain on extremely good terms with both these parties, despite their having moved on. We were regulars in the pub and even had very good relations with the (so-called) squatters that occupied it before it was sold by Admiral Taverns. We also have very good relations with almost all neighbours. Nobody of course is universally liked but we are on friendly terms with all the owners of the properties that adjoin the former Stockwell Arms. To those who have left messages of support, my heartfelt thanks. My thanks also to those people who have helped and supported us through this. It WAS a nightmare. Hopefully since the Planning Committee voted to enforce the planning conditions last night, it will soon be over. Needless to say, I will no longer be using the Stockwell. If you want a decent pint, try the Victoria.[/p][/quote]Their shepherds pie is also less than £17.95 and remains constructed! Sarah Wiekamp
  • Score: 5

10:33pm Fri 11 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

jessica89 wrote:
i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.
Shame on you jessica89, shame on you to stoop so low. You so obviously do not live right next door and are laughable in your comments. Perhaps you should return to the thread when you have something sensible to contribute and have got your facts round the right way!
[quote][p][bold]jessica89[/bold] wrote: i live right next door to this pub and i have 2 small children and have never heard anything from them. the builders working on this pub put a restraning order on this lady as she give them nuffink but hell.[/p][/quote]Shame on you jessica89, shame on you to stoop so low. You so obviously do not live right next door and are laughable in your comments. Perhaps you should return to the thread when you have something sensible to contribute and have got your facts round the right way! Ilovecolchester
  • Score: -1

8:20pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Timj_uk says...

I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose?
As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask!
I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose? As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask! Timj_uk
  • Score: 4

9:03pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mick Lavelle says...

Timj_uk wrote:
I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose?
As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask!
Fortunately (and to their credit) the committee did vote to pursue enforcement 9despite the developer strongly arguing against this) meaning that the developer may yet have to comply with the limits imposed by the planning department; albeit a watered down version of the original set of conditions.

Sadly, the attitude of the officers would seems to be to favour the developer, irrespective of how many oppose the type and scale of development or what effect it will have upon the local community.

The Stockwell has been marketed as a restoration (i.e. bringing it back to a former condition). It is not clearly this though. The extension is modern and not in keeping with the original fabric of the building. The original building has been repaired, but along the lines required by its new owner. The building’s footprint is now twice what it was throughout most of its history. It is then, now mostly just another ‘theme restaurant’, not an historic monument. Despite all of this, the marketing spin has maintained that it is a restoration and thus, much of the clamour of support is keen to cite this. I ask restoration to what? As most of it is new build (21 century NOT 15 Century) the site could be redeveloped in the near future, and as the footprint of the ‘new Stockwell’ has been established, the original nature of the site is lost. Who knows what it may become if (in all likelihood) this restaurant venture ultimately fails and a new use for the site is sought. Perhaps this will not be the last time that the Stockwell becomes a contentious planning matter?

I am extremely glad that the original fabric of the building is intact and that it has been repaired. This gives me some hope that one day; it might yet be restored to its former authentic character once again.
[quote][p][bold]Timj_uk[/bold] wrote: I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose? As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask![/p][/quote]Fortunately (and to their credit) the committee did vote to pursue enforcement 9despite the developer strongly arguing against this) meaning that the developer may yet have to comply with the limits imposed by the planning department; albeit a watered down version of the original set of conditions. Sadly, the attitude of the officers would seems to be to favour the developer, irrespective of how many oppose the type and scale of development or what effect it will have upon the local community. The Stockwell has been marketed as a restoration (i.e. bringing it back to a former condition). It is not clearly this though. The extension is modern and not in keeping with the original fabric of the building. The original building has been repaired, but along the lines required by its new owner. The building’s footprint is now twice what it was throughout most of its history. It is then, now mostly just another ‘theme restaurant’, not an historic monument. Despite all of this, the marketing spin has maintained that it is a restoration and thus, much of the clamour of support is keen to cite this. I ask restoration to what? As most of it is new build (21 century NOT 15 Century) the site could be redeveloped in the near future, and as the footprint of the ‘new Stockwell’ has been established, the original nature of the site is lost. Who knows what it may become if (in all likelihood) this restaurant venture ultimately fails and a new use for the site is sought. Perhaps this will not be the last time that the Stockwell becomes a contentious planning matter? I am extremely glad that the original fabric of the building is intact and that it has been repaired. This gives me some hope that one day; it might yet be restored to its former authentic character once again. Mick Lavelle
  • Score: 3

9:07pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mick Lavelle says...

To contextualise my comments above, I should also have added that unfortunately, planning regulations are the subject of interpretation and end up as a sort of 'local version' of national guidelines. Locally the upshot of this is that, Colchester's planning department do seem reluctant to pursue enforcement, as seen at the planning meeting on Thursday night. Several councillors urged that it was time for the council to "make a stand." Unfortunately, they did not really step up to this challenge and although some of them are clearly opposed to the actions of this developer (a matter of record – the meeting is recorded and the recording will be available online) they did not collectively stand up to their own officers.
To contextualise my comments above, I should also have added that unfortunately, planning regulations are the subject of interpretation and end up as a sort of 'local version' of national guidelines. Locally the upshot of this is that, Colchester's planning department do seem reluctant to pursue enforcement, as seen at the planning meeting on Thursday night. Several councillors urged that it was time for the council to "make a stand." Unfortunately, they did not really step up to this challenge and although some of them are clearly opposed to the actions of this developer (a matter of record – the meeting is recorded and the recording will be available online) they did not collectively stand up to their own officers. Mick Lavelle
  • Score: 3

9:14pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Ilovecolchester says...

he's clearly a man with a bob or two to throw into a venture such as this - just makes you wonder exactly who is on his payroll if he's given this much leeway on planning regulations!
he's clearly a man with a bob or two to throw into a venture such as this - just makes you wonder exactly who is on his payroll if he's given this much leeway on planning regulations! Ilovecolchester
  • Score: 4

10:19pm Sat 12 Apr 14

partyplanner says...

Timj_uk wrote:
I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose?
As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask!
Planners are toothless and by doing so encourage rogue characters such as the one running the Stockwell.
[quote][p][bold]Timj_uk[/bold] wrote: I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose? As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask![/p][/quote]Planners are toothless and by doing so encourage rogue characters such as the one running the Stockwell. partyplanner
  • Score: 3

10:20pm Sat 12 Apr 14

sandgronun64 says...

Mick Lavelle wrote:
To contextualise my comments above, I should also have added that unfortunately, planning regulations are the subject of interpretation and end up as a sort of 'local version' of national guidelines. Locally the upshot of this is that, Colchester's planning department do seem reluctant to pursue enforcement, as seen at the planning meeting on Thursday night. Several councillors urged that it was time for the council to "make a stand." Unfortunately, they did not really step up to this challenge and although some of them are clearly opposed to the actions of this developer (a matter of record – the meeting is recorded and the recording will be available online) they did not collectively stand up to their own officers.
I too was at the planning meeting on Thursday.

Some of the councillors were obviously p*ssed off with the applicant/developer. One even described it as the most confusing and disorganised application he had ever seen.

It spoke volumes that the officers had allowed something like this to get to this stage.

It seemed to me that this whole matter had been handled badly from the start.
[quote][p][bold]Mick Lavelle[/bold] wrote: To contextualise my comments above, I should also have added that unfortunately, planning regulations are the subject of interpretation and end up as a sort of 'local version' of national guidelines. Locally the upshot of this is that, Colchester's planning department do seem reluctant to pursue enforcement, as seen at the planning meeting on Thursday night. Several councillors urged that it was time for the council to "make a stand." Unfortunately, they did not really step up to this challenge and although some of them are clearly opposed to the actions of this developer (a matter of record – the meeting is recorded and the recording will be available online) they did not collectively stand up to their own officers.[/p][/quote]I too was at the planning meeting on Thursday. Some of the councillors were obviously p*ssed off with the applicant/developer. One even described it as the most confusing and disorganised application he had ever seen. It spoke volumes that the officers had allowed something like this to get to this stage. It seemed to me that this whole matter had been handled badly from the start. sandgronun64
  • Score: 3

10:44pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Mick Lavelle says...

partyplanner wrote:
Timj_uk wrote:
I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose?
As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask!
Planners are toothless and by doing so encourage rogue characters such as the one running the Stockwell.
I beg to differ slightly on this.

Planners do have teeth ... they merely lack bite.

They are tame.

Developers on the other hand are allowed to run wild.
[quote][p][bold]partyplanner[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Timj_uk[/bold] wrote: I find it amazing that with the planning regulators so clearly toothless over these issues that they are actually thinking of relaxing some of the planning laws! Companies who clearly abuse the planning laws as can be seen here should be held to account and responsible for compensating those who have clearly suffered a huge amount of anxiety and distress through this building process. I’ve been unfortunate enough to live next to two building sites over the last 10 years. The first was well organised with good site management and a competent work force. Over 18 months there were no grievances, no major aggravation and there is no reason why all sites cannot be run like that. The second build was a nightmare, sounded almost as bad as this one but we didn’t have to deal with workmen using the rear of the property as a toilet or endangering the surrounding families and property with dangerous work practice. We have laws to prevent this, why can’t they be enforced when Colchester council have a whole department dedicated to the purpose? As for those who seem to have nothing but bile to pour on those affected, I wonder who they have loyalty to. You have to ask![/p][/quote]Planners are toothless and by doing so encourage rogue characters such as the one running the Stockwell.[/p][/quote]I beg to differ slightly on this. Planners do have teeth ... they merely lack bite. They are tame. Developers on the other hand are allowed to run wild. Mick Lavelle
  • Score: 5

11:38am Wed 16 Apr 14

olliewestover says...

SOMETHING2SAY wrote:
But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !!
You are a complete numpty, who sits behind their computer antagonizing people with genuine issues...you my sir/madam are a troll
[quote][p][bold]SOMETHING2SAY[/bold] wrote: But no to some of your questions....i have nothing to do with the place...but if there are issues...then thats down to the surveyor/site agent / council. I only mention " plans" because surely , all close by would have had the chance to see building proposals.....and reject to. Its no good moaning once all has been approved. And as for comments on overpriced shepherds pie....youve obviously been there to eat ? There are young couples / single mothers having to take up squalid bedsits , in the town , over chinese/ kebab outlets...who are just happy to have a roof over their heads. This area has seen , in recent years , drug problems , murders....and people want to whine about this issue..?? GET A LIFE !![/p][/quote]You are a complete numpty, who sits behind their computer antagonizing people with genuine issues...you my sir/madam are a troll olliewestover
  • Score: 3

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