'Street lights could not have prevented horrific Castle Park murder'

Essex County Standard: 'Street lights could not have prevented horrific Castle Park murder' 'Street lights could not have prevented horrific Castle Park murder'

HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented.

Mr Bass, Essex County Council cabinet member for highways, took the decision in November to switch off the majority of street lights across the town between 12am and 5am in a bid to save about £130,000.

In the aftermath of Mr Attfield’s death, Mr Bass has agreed to keep streetlights on in the Riverside Estate, near to where Mr Attfield was found in the early hours of Saturday morning.

Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions.

“I think the public can be reassured by a stronger police presence and I certainly agree that police advice should be heeded over the next few days.”

He added: “We are of course liasing closely with the police and have already suspended the switch off within the vicinity of where the body was discovered.

“The important consideration at this stage is to ensure that the police are given our full support to help them establish exactly the circumstances of the murder and to apprehend the killer (or killers) now on the loose.”

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4:57pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

What a Roderney this man Bass is!. A total disgrace!

He has no more idea than anyone else whether this murder would have been prevented if the lights had been on. What we do know is that it was him, against a majority of opposition, who made the decision to switch off the lights and in turning them back on now, in the vicinity of Castle Park, confirms he made a terrible decision in the first place.
What a Roderney this man Bass is!. A total disgrace! He has no more idea than anyone else whether this murder would have been prevented if the lights had been on. What we do know is that it was him, against a majority of opposition, who made the decision to switch off the lights and in turning them back on now, in the vicinity of Castle Park, confirms he made a terrible decision in the first place. Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: 44

5:13pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Jue_uk says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
What a Roderney this man Bass is!. A total disgrace!

He has no more idea than anyone else whether this murder would have been prevented if the lights had been on. What we do know is that it was him, against a majority of opposition, who made the decision to switch off the lights and in turning them back on now, in the vicinity of Castle Park, confirms he made a terrible decision in the first place.
Couldn't agree more. Maybe Mr Bass would like to donate some of the money saved from part time street lights to the charity 'headway' who was supporting poor Mr Attfield!
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: What a Roderney this man Bass is!. A total disgrace! He has no more idea than anyone else whether this murder would have been prevented if the lights had been on. What we do know is that it was him, against a majority of opposition, who made the decision to switch off the lights and in turning them back on now, in the vicinity of Castle Park, confirms he made a terrible decision in the first place.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. Maybe Mr Bass would like to donate some of the money saved from part time street lights to the charity 'headway' who was supporting poor Mr Attfield! Jue_uk
  • Score: 33

6:01pm Thu 3 Apr 14

davidwelham says...

How can Rodney Bass say that this murder couldnt been prevented even if the lights were on as nobody will know. What is sure that I and majority people living in Colchester feel that this is the wrong decision and feel less safe and comfortable.

I am going to write to Essex County Council to voice my opposition and sugged
that others do the same.
How can Rodney Bass say that this murder couldnt been prevented even if the lights were on as nobody will know. What is sure that I and majority people living in Colchester feel that this is the wrong decision and feel less safe and comfortable. I am going to write to Essex County Council to voice my opposition and sugged that others do the same. davidwelham
  • Score: 29

6:12pm Thu 3 Apr 14

HARRY438 says...

Appalling statement. See and be seen saves lives?
Appalling statement. See and be seen saves lives? HARRY438
  • Score: 10

6:48pm Thu 3 Apr 14

gizabreak says...

davidwelham wrote:
How can Rodney Bass say that this murder couldnt been prevented even if the lights were on as nobody will know. What is sure that I and majority people living in Colchester feel that this is the wrong decision and feel less safe and comfortable.

I am going to write to Essex County Council to voice my opposition and sugged
that others do the same.
Just to make people aware..if you email Rodney Bass you get a generic email as he only apparently converses with county councillors and not the minions ..appalling...guy has delusions of grandeure. I know the email address to get any type of response is mr Bill Boshell part-night lighting team Essex County Council. And since I have written to him numerous times to get the lights put back on I suggest everyone in Colchester does the same..after all the govt states that should residents show concerns about the lights being off then they should be switched back on..this info is available on the net.
[quote][p][bold]davidwelham[/bold] wrote: How can Rodney Bass say that this murder couldnt been prevented even if the lights were on as nobody will know. What is sure that I and majority people living in Colchester feel that this is the wrong decision and feel less safe and comfortable. I am going to write to Essex County Council to voice my opposition and sugged that others do the same.[/p][/quote]Just to make people aware..if you email Rodney Bass you get a generic email as he only apparently converses with county councillors and not the minions ..appalling...guy has delusions of grandeure. I know the email address to get any type of response is mr Bill Boshell part-night lighting team Essex County Council. And since I have written to him numerous times to get the lights put back on I suggest everyone in Colchester does the same..after all the govt states that should residents show concerns about the lights being off then they should be switched back on..this info is available on the net. gizabreak
  • Score: 18

6:52pm Thu 3 Apr 14

gizabreak says...

Mr bass has cost the council more than the £130.000 with all the bad decisions he has made , and yet he still sits on his throne on high getting a nice hefty wage packet. For being incompetent.
Mr bass has cost the council more than the £130.000 with all the bad decisions he has made , and yet he still sits on his throne on high getting a nice hefty wage packet. For being incompetent. gizabreak
  • Score: 23

6:53pm Thu 3 Apr 14

SOMETHING2SAY says...

If this bloody daft council , already known for its c***k ups ( the market / Parking / High st / Bus lanes) are about to save money with the turning off of lights......then at least plough some ££££££ into more cctv !
If this bloody daft council , already known for its c***k ups ( the market / Parking / High st / Bus lanes) are about to save money with the turning off of lights......then at least plough some ££££££ into more cctv ! SOMETHING2SAY
  • Score: 9

8:43pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Reginald47 says...

What Mr Bass said:

Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions.

What the Gazette said:

HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented.

These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..
What Mr Bass said: Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions. What the Gazette said: HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented. These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him.. Reginald47
  • Score: 2

9:31pm Thu 3 Apr 14

JohnStang says...

I live in Riverside estate and the path between the Castle park and the estate leading towards the Leisure World and the path following the river along down to East Street have absolutely no lighting whatsoever apart from one light just in front of the castle gate. The rest is completely black. I have walked down the paths after dark and its unnerving. You just dont know who else is out there because its pitch black. I often thought that lights should be put on the path for safety, but they are not going to agree for lights on footpaths when they are turning off street lights..... Why cant they not install low power lights that are turned on by motion sensors???
I live in Riverside estate and the path between the Castle park and the estate leading towards the Leisure World and the path following the river along down to East Street have absolutely no lighting whatsoever apart from one light just in front of the castle gate. The rest is completely black. I have walked down the paths after dark and its unnerving. You just dont know who else is out there because its pitch black. I often thought that lights should be put on the path for safety, but they are not going to agree for lights on footpaths when they are turning off street lights..... Why cant they not install low power lights that are turned on by motion sensors??? JohnStang
  • Score: 19

9:50pm Thu 3 Apr 14

NewlyBlonde says...

If the street lights had no bearing on this case why are they being switched on again? If ECC are so sure turning the lights off at night is a good idea they should have the courage to stand by their decision. By putting them back on they are admitting their mistake.
If the street lights had no bearing on this case why are they being switched on again? If ECC are so sure turning the lights off at night is a good idea they should have the courage to stand by their decision. By putting them back on they are admitting their mistake. NewlyBlonde
  • Score: 16

12:47am Fri 4 Apr 14

Angry of Lexden says...

£130k "saving" is a tiny part of the overall budget for Colchester.

I would be interested to know if the "saving" includes the cost of adjusting the street lighting system. - whether it does or not, £130k divided by the population of Colchester is a pretty small amount per week per person.

Mr Bass, I have three daughters ages 19 to 30 who like to meet their friends in town. Inevitably they will make the trip home after lights out - how do you think I feel about them walking back in the pitch black? I've walked out to meet them and not being able to see the pavement is scary for me , let alone worrying about my girls being the victim of robbery or worse.

Mr. B you put your name to a poor decision, I hope you have the guts to act now to agree to turn the lights back on without delay before the increasing number of lower orders in town attack/rob/ rape another.

How about we meet and walk the town together after lights out - no torches.

Anyone else like to join in?

The other thought Colchester folk might want to ponder is, are the "savings" less or greater than the combined expenses of, say the Bass and Tim & Mrs. Young council CBC and ECC empires?

Act now! Don't moan later!
£130k "saving" is a tiny part of the overall budget for Colchester. I would be interested to know if the "saving" includes the cost of adjusting the street lighting system. - whether it does or not, £130k divided by the population of Colchester is a pretty small amount per week per person. Mr Bass, I have three daughters ages 19 to 30 who like to meet their friends in town. Inevitably they will make the trip home after lights out - how do you think I feel about them walking back in the pitch black? I've walked out to meet them and not being able to see the pavement is scary for me , let alone worrying about my girls being the victim of robbery or worse. Mr. B you put your name to a poor decision, I hope you have the guts to act now to agree to turn the lights back on without delay before the increasing number of lower orders in town attack/rob/ rape another. How about we meet and walk the town together after lights out - no torches. Anyone else like to join in? The other thought Colchester folk might want to ponder is, are the "savings" less or greater than the combined expenses of, say the Bass and Tim & Mrs. Young council CBC and ECC empires? Act now! Don't moan later! Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 16

7:06am Fri 4 Apr 14

ebola1986 says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
What a Roderney this man Bass is!. A total disgrace!

He has no more idea than anyone else whether this murder would have been prevented if the lights had been on. What we do know is that it was him, against a majority of opposition, who made the decision to switch off the lights and in turning them back on now, in the vicinity of Castle Park, confirms he made a terrible decision in the first place.
There are not, and have never been, any streetlights in the park of the park in which Mr. Attfield was murdered.
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: What a Roderney this man Bass is!. A total disgrace! He has no more idea than anyone else whether this murder would have been prevented if the lights had been on. What we do know is that it was him, against a majority of opposition, who made the decision to switch off the lights and in turning them back on now, in the vicinity of Castle Park, confirms he made a terrible decision in the first place.[/p][/quote]There are not, and have never been, any streetlights in the park of the park in which Mr. Attfield was murdered. ebola1986
  • Score: 3

7:11am Fri 4 Apr 14

SAndrewss says...

Reginald47 wrote:
What Mr Bass said:

Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions.

What the Gazette said:

HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented.

These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..
Exactly! Not a fan or Mr Bass, but the Gazette have yet again written utter rubbish, claiming something was said by Bass and writing that he said no such thing.

Just like the gazette putting out a headline that the Killers must be found, only to then state in the article that it is unknown if more than one person was involved.

Sort yourselves out Gazette!!! A little accuracy wouldn't go amiss!!!
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: What Mr Bass said: Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions. What the Gazette said: HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented. These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..[/p][/quote]Exactly! Not a fan or Mr Bass, but the Gazette have yet again written utter rubbish, claiming something was said by Bass and writing that he said no such thing. Just like the gazette putting out a headline that the Killers must be found, only to then state in the article that it is unknown if more than one person was involved. Sort yourselves out Gazette!!! A little accuracy wouldn't go amiss!!! SAndrewss
  • Score: 7

9:42am Fri 4 Apr 14

Route88 says...

Reginald47 wrote:
What Mr Bass said:

Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions.

What the Gazette said:

HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented.

These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..
I totally agree with you - quite disgraceful journalism.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: What Mr Bass said: Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions. What the Gazette said: HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented. These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you - quite disgraceful journalism. Route88
  • Score: 2

10:09am Fri 4 Apr 14

wormshero says...

I feel this article isn't necessary and is just an excuse for the Gazette to try and drum up support for their own demands again. It's pretty disgusting that the editors have allowed using such a gruesome crime to try and make a point and then, to make matters worse, misrepresented the comments to try and get a headline. Even worse if it's true that there were never streetlights where the murder took place. There's a violent killer on the loose, how about saving your politics for later? The man was stabbed to death in an absolutely brutal way, the person who did it clearly isn't right in the head and the odds are this would have happened lights or no lights. Last time I checked no one was even sure what time it happened?
I feel this article isn't necessary and is just an excuse for the Gazette to try and drum up support for their own demands again. It's pretty disgusting that the editors have allowed using such a gruesome crime to try and make a point and then, to make matters worse, misrepresented the comments to try and get a headline. Even worse if it's true that there were never streetlights where the murder took place. There's a violent killer on the loose, how about saving your politics for later? The man was stabbed to death in an absolutely brutal way, the person who did it clearly isn't right in the head and the odds are this would have happened lights or no lights. Last time I checked no one was even sure what time it happened? wormshero
  • Score: 6

10:23am Fri 4 Apr 14

Simon Taylor says...

Reginald47 wrote:
What Mr Bass said:

Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions.

What the Gazette said:

HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented.

These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..
Absolutely right. I made a comment similar to Mr Bass' on facebook and got accused of being a "troll" and unfriended by someone I know and respect. Emotions are running high, so it's understandable to a degree, but we really do need responsible journalism here.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: What Mr Bass said: Mr Bass said: “We do not know that this horrific incident would have been prevented by street lights and therefore we need to understand more about the circumstances before drawing any definitive conclusions. What the Gazette said: HIGHWAYS chief Rodney Bass says even if Colchester’s street lights had been on, Jim Attfield’s murder could not have been prevented. These statements are entirely different and the Gazette owes Mr Bass an apology for misrepresenting him..[/p][/quote]Absolutely right. I made a comment similar to Mr Bass' on facebook and got accused of being a "troll" and unfriended by someone I know and respect. Emotions are running high, so it's understandable to a degree, but we really do need responsible journalism here. Simon Taylor
  • Score: 4

11:01am Fri 4 Apr 14

Weazelbum says...

I nearly choked when I heard just £130,000 had been 'saved'! What a joke! I bet their catering/function bill is higher! I'm so angry it's untrue! People can't see where they're going, all manner of nutters have a blanket of darkness to hide behind....'sorry Officer, I can't give a description of the assailant as I couldn't actually see their face, it was too dark'. Christ alive, nice to know our wellbeing is high up on their agenda.....
I nearly choked when I heard just £130,000 had been 'saved'! What a joke! I bet their catering/function bill is higher! I'm so angry it's untrue! People can't see where they're going, all manner of nutters have a blanket of darkness to hide behind....'sorry Officer, I can't give a description of the assailant as I couldn't actually see their face, it was too dark'. Christ alive, nice to know our wellbeing is high up on their agenda..... Weazelbum
  • Score: 15

1:43pm Fri 4 Apr 14

my2pworth says...

Rodney bass

Why do you think the Army in its history and presently conduct most of their operations at night?

Why do criminals operate with more confidence at night?

Cover of darkness you silly little man!!

Take a look at yourself and your decision in an impartial manner and do something to prevent more innocent people taking the impact of your self-promoting policy.

This poor guy may have been killed had the lights been on, he may not, the killer may have been seen fleeing the crime had they been.

One thing is for sure people will feel safer with the lights on and criminals will not think they are invisible!
Rodney bass Why do you think the Army in its history and presently conduct most of their operations at night? Why do criminals operate with more confidence at night? Cover of darkness you silly little man!! Take a look at yourself and your decision in an impartial manner and do something to prevent more innocent people taking the impact of your self-promoting policy. This poor guy may have been killed had the lights been on, he may not, the killer may have been seen fleeing the crime had they been. One thing is for sure people will feel safer with the lights on and criminals will not think they are invisible! my2pworth
  • Score: 12

4:00pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Memma says...

No, having the street lights on most likely wouldn't have prevented his murder but it would have made catching the scumbags a **** sight easier surely!!
No, having the street lights on most likely wouldn't have prevented his murder but it would have made catching the scumbags a **** sight easier surely!! Memma
  • Score: 15

2:43am Sat 5 Apr 14

Voiceover says...

Police are asking for witnesses.

How on earth would anyone see anyone with the lights out? And this goes for other crimes as well.

Now they're having to rely on the murderer either giving himself up or being given up by family. I am frightened that he may actually get away with this atrocity.

If the lights are out you're taking potential witnesses from all crime. Is that worth the money they're saving? To criminals it very much is!

This council are a joke, as are other councils who believe that this is a good thing
Police are asking for witnesses. How on earth would anyone see anyone with the lights out? And this goes for other crimes as well. Now they're having to rely on the murderer either giving himself up or being given up by family. I am frightened that he may actually get away with this atrocity. If the lights are out you're taking potential witnesses from all crime. Is that worth the money they're saving? To criminals it very much is! This council are a joke, as are other councils who believe that this is a good thing Voiceover
  • Score: 7

9:06am Sat 5 Apr 14

justice 4 all says...

Would someone please point out to Mr Rodney Bass how insensitive and crass his comments in Fridays Gazette are, trying to justify the light switch off by saying their is no proof Jim Attfields murder would have been prevented if nearby lighting was on, well Mr Bass there is no proof to say it did not give the killer impunity to murder as they knew they could escape their crime covered in blood, it may have given them some confidence to commit this violent and heinous act, I do understand Mr Bass is just trying to do his job, savings do have to be found because of the mess the conservative government inherited from ten years of labour miss management but if the smaller pot of money coming from the government was managed better, see the criminal waste of funds spent on first site, then we could all walk home from the pub without fear at night, I live in Coggeshall and I can only imagine how fearful it is for women and the young after midnight in our beautiful village, because as a big strong forty five year old man I find it unnerving when plunged into darkness with no moon light it is not a nice place to be, so Mr Bass keep you comments to yourself, because the arrogance that has been shown to the residence of Essex, because let us not forget it will take years before the light switch off breaks even before any saving are made, has put us all at risk of crime for years to come, I know all the political parties will blame each other for the lack of money for basic amenities but yes Mrs Julie Young Labour group leader I do blame Gordon Brown for the mess our once proud and great nation is in, because he was the one hold the collective credit card when it was maxed out to put us all in dept for years to come, yes there has been a world recession but it was the poor accounting and free money give away by the Labour government for years means we are all now in darkness and fear, and as time goes on the criminal element in our society gain strength from the darkness then shame on you all.
Would someone please point out to Mr Rodney Bass how insensitive and crass his comments in Fridays Gazette are, trying to justify the light switch off by saying their is no proof Jim Attfields murder would have been prevented if nearby lighting was on, well Mr Bass there is no proof to say it did not give the killer impunity to murder as they knew they could escape their crime covered in blood, it may have given them some confidence to commit this violent and heinous act, I do understand Mr Bass is just trying to do his job, savings do have to be found because of the mess the conservative government inherited from ten years of labour miss management but if the smaller pot of money coming from the government was managed better, see the criminal waste of funds spent on first site, then we could all walk home from the pub without fear at night, I live in Coggeshall and I can only imagine how fearful it is for women and the young after midnight in our beautiful village, because as a big strong forty five year old man I find it unnerving when plunged into darkness with no moon light it is not a nice place to be, so Mr Bass keep you comments to yourself, because the arrogance that has been shown to the residence of Essex, because let us not forget it will take years before the light switch off breaks even before any saving are made, has put us all at risk of crime for years to come, I know all the political parties will blame each other for the lack of money for basic amenities but yes Mrs Julie Young Labour group leader [see Thursdays Gazette] I do blame Gordon Brown for the mess our once proud and great nation is in, because he was the one hold the collective credit card when it was maxed out to put us all in dept for years to come, yes there has been a world recession but it was the poor accounting and free money give away by the Labour government for years means we are all now in darkness and fear, and as time goes on the criminal element in our society gain strength from the darkness then shame on you all. justice 4 all
  • Score: 4

9:23am Sat 5 Apr 14

paddy16 says...

Only need to say one word to Rodney!!!!!!

PLONKER
Only need to say one word to Rodney!!!!!! PLONKER paddy16
  • Score: 3

6:20pm Sat 5 Apr 14

Twenty14 says...

Unless Mr Bass knew exactly who committed this horrific crime he would have no idea whatsoever whether this could have been prevented or not . What a stupid comment he has made and his own way of trying to justify turning the lights off. I hope the lights stay on it's absolutely horrible with them off and it feels safer with them on and it does prevent if people think they can be seen and caught!!!
Unless Mr Bass knew exactly who committed this horrific crime he would have no idea whatsoever whether this could have been prevented or not . What a stupid comment he has made and his own way of trying to justify turning the lights off. I hope the lights stay on it's absolutely horrible with them off and it feels safer with them on and it does prevent if people think they can be seen and caught!!! Twenty14
  • Score: 3

11:17pm Sun 6 Apr 14

shadylady says...

I am unsure if the saving of 130K is per year or what has been saved so far BUT whichever it is, if it is per year it amounts to about £2 per household or if it since the lights were turned off probably £5. I know I would rather be paying that amount on top of my council tax if necessary than I would be hearing more news about people being murdered or raped or burgled etc.
Nobody knows if the lack of street lights had any factor in this poor man's fate or not but why risk people's lives over a few pounds per household.
My sincere condolences go to Mr Attfield's family I hope they catch the scum that did this sooner rather than later.
I am unsure if the saving of 130K is per year or what has been saved so far BUT whichever it is, if it is per year it amounts to about £2 per household or if it since the lights were turned off probably £5. I know I would rather be paying that amount on top of my council tax if necessary than I would be hearing more news about people being murdered or raped or burgled etc. Nobody knows if the lack of street lights had any factor in this poor man's fate or not but why risk people's lives over a few pounds per household. My sincere condolences go to Mr Attfield's family I hope they catch the scum that did this sooner rather than later. shadylady
  • Score: 3

10:24pm Mon 7 Apr 14

William George says...

shadylady wrote:
I am unsure if the saving of 130K is per year or what has been saved so far BUT whichever it is, if it is per year it amounts to about £2 per household or if it since the lights were turned off probably £5. I know I would rather be paying that amount on top of my council tax if necessary than I would be hearing more news about people being murdered or raped or burgled etc.
Nobody knows if the lack of street lights had any factor in this poor man's fate or not but why risk people's lives over a few pounds per household.
My sincere condolences go to Mr Attfield's family I hope they catch the scum that did this sooner rather than later.
It has been publicly mentioned the council could make a choice to have less councillors on it's council for now and the future and to manage with that.

If that bid is decided that in itself would make a worthy save in the costs.
Street lights would not need to be switched off and less risk of dangers would the public have to then face.

Keeping the street lights switched on will make it less tempting for the criminal to create their crime. It would give a result of less of these murders to continue to happen.
[quote][p][bold]shadylady[/bold] wrote: I am unsure if the saving of 130K is per year or what has been saved so far BUT whichever it is, if it is per year it amounts to about £2 per household or if it since the lights were turned off probably £5. I know I would rather be paying that amount on top of my council tax if necessary than I would be hearing more news about people being murdered or raped or burgled etc. Nobody knows if the lack of street lights had any factor in this poor man's fate or not but why risk people's lives over a few pounds per household. My sincere condolences go to Mr Attfield's family I hope they catch the scum that did this sooner rather than later.[/p][/quote]It has been publicly mentioned the council could make a choice to have less councillors on it's council for now and the future and to manage with that. If that bid is decided that in itself would make a worthy save in the costs. Street lights would not need to be switched off and less risk of dangers would the public have to then face. Keeping the street lights switched on will make it less tempting for the criminal to create their crime. It would give a result of less of these murders to continue to happen. William George
  • Score: 2

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