Councillor: "I'd post dog mess to pet yobs"

Martin Hunt at the launch of the responsible dog ownership strategy

Martin Hunt at the launch of the responsible dog ownership strategy

First published in News

A councillor would like to be able to post dog mess through the letter boxes of lazy owners as he believes the warden’s current powers are not enough.

Martin Hunt, cabinet member for street and waste services, feels dog wardens are at a disadvantage as they must wear uniforms and be visible, meaning it is hard to catch owners red handed.

Although he acknowledged it would not be possible, Mr Hunt said: “I would be very happy, if I got the chance to witness someone letting their dog foul on the pavement I would bag it it up, follow them down the road and put it through the letterbox.

“I know that is horrible, but that is what they deserve, but I suspect that is illegal.”

And it appears he is not alone, with some readers having used rudely worded signs to warn off persistent foulers, other suggesting sticking brightly coloured flags in the piles and others chalking messages next to them.

In September last year Colchester Council launched its Responsible Dog Ownership Strategy, which includes its responsibility to enforce dog fouling laws.

But Mr Hunt said: “It is like parking enforcement, they have to wear uniforms and the fact is while they are walking along nobody will fail to clean up after their dogs."

 

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11:31am Tue 4 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

What an offensive comment to make. The councillor wishes to indulge in behaviour worthy of an ASBO?
What an offensive comment to make. The councillor wishes to indulge in behaviour worthy of an ASBO? Jack222
  • Score: -19

12:02pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Lawford Lass says...

I wish the dog wardens would come to Lawford we have many an ignorant dog owner, yesterday it was just before the entrance to Highfields Primary School so got trodden into school. It doesn't take 5 mins to pick up after your dogs, why the need for such ignorance.
I wish the dog wardens would come to Lawford we have many an ignorant dog owner, yesterday it was just before the entrance to Highfields Primary School so got trodden into school. It doesn't take 5 mins to pick up after your dogs, why the need for such ignorance. Lawford Lass
  • Score: 18

12:22pm Tue 4 Mar 14

The Stinker Returns says...

What do blind people do when their guide dogs mess on the path?
What do blind people do when their guide dogs mess on the path? The Stinker Returns
  • Score: -10

12:57pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Madcowmac says...

How about we post BULL S**T through his door, as it what comes out his mouth.
How about we post BULL S**T through his door, as it what comes out his mouth. Madcowmac
  • Score: -17

1:08pm Tue 4 Mar 14

catflap1 says...

well that's a vote winner .... might to better to stick with the leaflets Mr Hunt
well that's a vote winner .... might to better to stick with the leaflets Mr Hunt catflap1
  • Score: -17

1:14pm Tue 4 Mar 14

DailyGazette says...

Kinky
Kinky DailyGazette
  • Score: -17

1:14pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Reginald47 says...

I see no reason why the councillor shouldn't return people's property to them if they leave it on the paveement or in someone's front garden. These people are about as disgusting as you can get.
I see no reason why the councillor shouldn't return people's property to them if they leave it on the paveement or in someone's front garden. These people are about as disgusting as you can get. Reginald47
  • Score: 26

1:29pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Scoot says...

I think its a brilliant idea. I think a Council is already doing this and employing people on benefits paying them the minimum wage to follow people or take their vehicle numbers. The poop is then scooped up and boxed with a note saying that they were returning some lost property(or words to that effect). If you can't act responsibly as a dog owner then you shouldn't have a dog in the first place !
Maybe they should try it with litter droppers as well.
I think its a brilliant idea. I think a Council is already doing this and employing people on benefits paying them the minimum wage to follow people or take their vehicle numbers. The poop is then scooped up and boxed with a note saying that they were returning some lost property(or words to that effect). If you can't act responsibly as a dog owner then you shouldn't have a dog in the first place ! Maybe they should try it with litter droppers as well. Scoot
  • Score: 22

1:34pm Tue 4 Mar 14

jut1972 says...

Rather than issue a sound bite work on changing the stupid rule about needing to be seem in uniform. Issue some cameras and go undercover.
Rather than issue a sound bite work on changing the stupid rule about needing to be seem in uniform. Issue some cameras and go undercover. jut1972
  • Score: 9

2:34pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

How many fines have been handed out? Zero.

Set up a camera and film the parks and confront owners with the evidence and hand out fines.

Many owners are not irresponsible, but they are so engrossed looking at their phone they fail to spot when their dog has decided to make a deposit.
How many fines have been handed out? Zero. Set up a camera and film the parks and confront owners with the evidence and hand out fines. Many owners are not irresponsible, but they are so engrossed looking at their phone they fail to spot when their dog has decided to make a deposit. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 7

2:58pm Tue 4 Mar 14

William George says...

Can all be dropped of this vulgar matter. Because lots of the councillors keep dropping all matters already; that then makes a cause for many bad subjects to start, their bad decisions still continue to remain.

The councillors should make a firm and strong step on all of this subject when its possible to see and reach it before it's all too late.
Can all be dropped of this vulgar matter. Because lots of the councillors keep dropping all matters already; that then makes a cause for many bad subjects to start, their bad decisions still continue to remain. The councillors should make a firm and strong step on all of this subject when its possible to see and reach it before it's all too late. William George
  • Score: -3

4:43pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Martin Hunt talking s h i t. Nothing new there!
Martin Hunt talking s h i t. Nothing new there! Say It As It Is OK?
  • Score: -5

5:18pm Tue 4 Mar 14

angryman!!! says...

It's car **** that annoys me. So I may take the councillor a advice and start posting that through my neighbours letter boxes, at least my dog on fouls in my garden.
Dog mess isn't nice but it's nothing compared to the general litter that is all over Colchester. If the council refuse collection was better, so there wasn't bin bags all over the place that cats etc could get to and more bins around town and neighbour hoods then maybe that would help, but know easier to make some silly little comment in the paper.
It's car **** that annoys me. So I may take the councillor a advice and start posting that through my neighbours letter boxes, at least my dog on fouls in my garden. Dog mess isn't nice but it's nothing compared to the general litter that is all over Colchester. If the council refuse collection was better, so there wasn't bin bags all over the place that cats etc could get to and more bins around town and neighbour hoods then maybe that would help, but know easier to make some silly little comment in the paper. angryman!!!
  • Score: -4

6:15pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Angry of Lexden says...

Great idea Mr. Hunt!
I've spent too much of the last thirty five years scraping dog pooh off the shoes of my seven children. Imagine my delight recently when I was able to get revenge. I was sitting in the Roller enjoying a calming cigar by the green on Clacton sea front when a brand new shiny black motor parked nearby. The couple then got out and walked their dog across the green. The mutt then delivered a mighty steamer onto the grass. To my horror the couple looked around - there was no one else about and they couldn't see me, and then they walked away from the mess.
I saw the opportunity for revenge and carefully scooped up the deposit up and carefully put it on the windscreen of the shiny black motor with short note. My call to the Tendering dog warden resulted in the couple being traced from their number plate. The warden later told me the offenders were extremely upset about my returning their lost property - Result!
Great idea Mr. Hunt! I've spent too much of the last thirty five years scraping dog pooh off the shoes of my seven children. Imagine my delight recently when I was able to get revenge. I was sitting in the Roller enjoying a calming cigar by the green on Clacton sea front when a brand new shiny black motor parked nearby. The couple then got out and walked their dog across the green. The mutt then delivered a mighty steamer onto the grass. To my horror the couple looked around - there was no one else about and they couldn't see me, and then they walked away from the mess. I saw the opportunity for revenge and carefully scooped up the deposit up and carefully put it on the windscreen of the shiny black motor with short note. My call to the Tendering dog warden resulted in the couple being traced from their number plate. The warden later told me the offenders were extremely upset about my returning their lost property - Result! Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 20

8:01pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Jack222 wrote:
What an offensive comment to make. The councillor wishes to indulge in behaviour worthy of an ASBO?
He is speaking tongue in cheek, obviously.

And I think he's right. Let your dog crap on the footpath and don't clean it up - expect to get it back. Afterall, it's your property. There are a small group of people who regularly allow their dogs to foul major footpaths and just leave it. Take a walk down Military Road if you don't believe me.

Anyone walking a dog in a public area who can't demonstrate that they have a method to clean up after them should be given an on-the-spot fine.

And throwing the bag of crap in a tree is NOT a suitible method of getting rid of it!
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: What an offensive comment to make. The councillor wishes to indulge in behaviour worthy of an ASBO?[/p][/quote]He is speaking tongue in cheek, obviously. And I think he's right. Let your dog crap on the footpath and don't clean it up - expect to get it back. Afterall, it's your property. There are a small group of people who regularly allow their dogs to foul major footpaths and just leave it. Take a walk down Military Road if you don't believe me. Anyone walking a dog in a public area who can't demonstrate that they have a method to clean up after them should be given an on-the-spot fine. And throwing the bag of crap in a tree is NOT a suitible method of getting rid of it! Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 16

8:06pm Tue 4 Mar 14

stevedawson says...

Not nice subject not very nice comments.mr hunts admits himself it was a bit over the top.we all know it should be picked up, but why get in a lather about it.maybe a job could be found for someone here rather than going about reporting people maybe his job should be to pick it up.
Not nice subject not very nice comments.mr hunts admits himself it was a bit over the top.we all know it should be picked up, but why get in a lather about it.maybe a job could be found for someone here rather than going about reporting people maybe his job should be to pick it up. stevedawson
  • Score: -10

10:34pm Tue 4 Mar 14

Hamiltonandy says...

I remember a picture of a Paris council employee who drove a motorbike on pavements collecting the turds and other waste with a vacuum pipe. An expensive solution I read was for the turd to be dna tested but that required the dogs to be registered.
I remember a picture of a Paris council employee who drove a motorbike on pavements collecting the turds and other waste with a vacuum pipe. An expensive solution I read was for the turd to be dna tested but that required the dogs to be registered. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: -5

2:10am Wed 5 Mar 14

rhetoric says...

It's amazing to me that dog owners feel it's ok to leave their dogs' deposits on a public footpath or grass verge, whereas if it were human faeces there would be a huge outcry.

Dogs' deposits are very much more likely to carry disease/parasites but the dog owners can't see any problem with spreading these around or leaving them for children to pick up on their shoes and bring into the home.

A fairly near neighbour takes his dogs for walks near home, and they are fed a diet that makes them slightly "loose". This is a horrible subject, but it needs to be said that even three goes at cleaning up still leaves a sticky mess. This is inevitably deposited on a grassy area which is a favourite for children to cross on their way home from school. He is however totally self righteous about everyone clearing up dogs' mess and claims to clear up after other owners too. I think I must get my good camera out there during and after his vile visitations and show the result when he is on the local bus, bragging about his good works in keeping the area clean!

If children deposited even a small amount of the same on the dog owner's carpet, would he then like to walk across the area even after the main deposit had been picked up? I think not!

To those who say this is a "horrible subject", I would respond that it's only by people speaking out about such things that we have the fairly sanitary environment that we enjoy today. No use burying your head in the sand - or whatever!
It's amazing to me that dog owners feel it's ok to leave their dogs' deposits on a public footpath or grass verge, whereas if it were human faeces there would be a huge outcry. Dogs' deposits are very much more likely to carry disease/parasites but the dog owners can't see any problem with spreading these around or leaving them for children to pick up on their shoes and bring into the home. A fairly near neighbour takes his dogs for walks near home, and they are fed a diet that makes them slightly "loose". This is a horrible subject, but it needs to be said that even three goes at cleaning up still leaves a sticky mess. This is inevitably deposited on a grassy area which is a favourite for children to cross on their way home from school. He is however totally self righteous about everyone clearing up dogs' mess and claims to clear up after other owners too. I think I must get my good camera out there during and after his vile visitations and show the result when he is on the local bus, bragging about his good works in keeping the area clean! If children deposited even a small amount of the same on the dog owner's carpet, would he then like to walk across the area even after the main deposit had been picked up? I think not! To those who say this is a "horrible subject", I would respond that it's only by people speaking out about such things that we have the fairly sanitary environment that we enjoy today. No use burying your head in the sand - or whatever! rhetoric
  • Score: 10

2:45am Wed 5 Mar 14

Boris says...

Dog s h i t is one of Will Quince's favourite subjects, and it is a perfectly proper subject for a family newspaper. Good to see that somebody else, in addition to the Tory boy, is taking the subject seriously.
Dog s h i t is one of Will Quince's favourite subjects, and it is a perfectly proper subject for a family newspaper. Good to see that somebody else, in addition to the Tory boy, is taking the subject seriously. Boris
  • Score: 5

9:46am Wed 5 Mar 14

Catchedicam says...

As a dog owner, I am disgusted that other owners feel it's OK not to clean up after their dog, and also to teach it to deposit faeces in public areas, this is a learned behaviour. I have had a number of dogs of varying breeds over the years and they have, without exception, always selected a corner of the garden to use as their toilet area, I always clean this up immediately and they will always return to this spot. This is a normal dog behaviour and I have never had a dog that fouled public areas, except in the most exceptional of circumstances.
As a dog owner, I am disgusted that other owners feel it's OK not to clean up after their dog, and also to teach it to deposit faeces in public areas, this is a learned behaviour. I have had a number of dogs of varying breeds over the years and they have, without exception, always selected a corner of the garden to use as their toilet area, I always clean this up immediately and they will always return to this spot. This is a normal dog behaviour and I have never had a dog that fouled public areas, except in the most exceptional of circumstances. Catchedicam
  • Score: 7

10:11am Wed 5 Mar 14

linton68 says...

Many owners unleash their dogs in a public place. Doggie scampers off out of sight, and does it's dirty deed without the owner even knowing (or caring) about it.. Also some owners like to walk their doggies after dark.. Out of sight out of mind. Shame really, because it's only a small minority, most pet owners are ok.
Many owners unleash their dogs in a public place. Doggie scampers off out of sight, and does it's dirty deed without the owner even knowing (or caring) about it.. Also some owners like to walk their doggies after dark.. Out of sight out of mind. Shame really, because it's only a small minority, most pet owners are ok. linton68
  • Score: 7

10:31am Wed 5 Mar 14

Jue_uk says...

Catchedicam wrote:
As a dog owner, I am disgusted that other owners feel it's OK not to clean up after their dog, and also to teach it to deposit faeces in public areas, this is a learned behaviour. I have had a number of dogs of varying breeds over the years and they have, without exception, always selected a corner of the garden to use as their toilet area, I always clean this up immediately and they will always return to this spot. This is a normal dog behaviour and I have never had a dog that fouled public areas, except in the most exceptional of circumstances.
I agree totally, it disgusts me too, there really is no excuse not to pick it up. I own three dogs and always pick up their faeces, It's such a shame that a minority few feel it is beyond them to do this, it gives the majority of responsible dog owners a bad name. Where I live it seems that these irresponsible dog owners come out after dark so no one sees them, then I have the pleasures of dodging this while walking my three dogs early morning!
[quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: As a dog owner, I am disgusted that other owners feel it's OK not to clean up after their dog, and also to teach it to deposit faeces in public areas, this is a learned behaviour. I have had a number of dogs of varying breeds over the years and they have, without exception, always selected a corner of the garden to use as their toilet area, I always clean this up immediately and they will always return to this spot. This is a normal dog behaviour and I have never had a dog that fouled public areas, except in the most exceptional of circumstances.[/p][/quote]I agree totally, it disgusts me too, there really is no excuse not to pick it up. I own three dogs and always pick up their faeces, It's such a shame that a minority few feel it is beyond them to do this, it gives the majority of responsible dog owners a bad name. Where I live it seems that these irresponsible dog owners come out after dark so no one sees them, then I have the pleasures of dodging this while walking my three dogs early morning! Jue_uk
  • Score: 7

11:43am Wed 5 Mar 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

linton68 wrote:
Many owners unleash their dogs in a public place. Doggie scampers off out of sight, and does it's dirty deed without the owner even knowing (or caring) about it.. Also some owners like to walk their doggies after dark.. Out of sight out of mind. Shame really, because it's only a small minority, most pet owners are ok.
They know alright. They just decide to ignore it.
[quote][p][bold]linton68[/bold] wrote: Many owners unleash their dogs in a public place. Doggie scampers off out of sight, and does it's dirty deed without the owner even knowing (or caring) about it.. Also some owners like to walk their doggies after dark.. Out of sight out of mind. Shame really, because it's only a small minority, most pet owners are ok.[/p][/quote]They know alright. They just decide to ignore it. Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 7

12:27pm Wed 5 Mar 14

catflap1 says...

Boris wrote:
Dog s h i t is one of Will Quince's favourite subjects, and it is a perfectly proper subject for a family newspaper. Good to see that somebody else, in addition to the Tory boy, is taking the subject seriously.
the tory boy talks enough of it
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Dog s h i t is one of Will Quince's favourite subjects, and it is a perfectly proper subject for a family newspaper. Good to see that somebody else, in addition to the Tory boy, is taking the subject seriously.[/p][/quote]the tory boy talks enough of it catflap1
  • Score: -5

12:27pm Wed 5 Mar 14

catflap1 says...

Boris wrote:
Dog s h i t is one of Will Quince's favourite subjects, and it is a perfectly proper subject for a family newspaper. Good to see that somebody else, in addition to the Tory boy, is taking the subject seriously.
the tory boy talks enough of it
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: Dog s h i t is one of Will Quince's favourite subjects, and it is a perfectly proper subject for a family newspaper. Good to see that somebody else, in addition to the Tory boy, is taking the subject seriously.[/p][/quote]the tory boy talks enough of it catflap1
  • Score: -4

10:26pm Wed 5 Mar 14

omgwtfbbq says...

The Stinker Returns wrote:
What do blind people do when their guide dogs mess on the path?
guide dogs are trained not to
[quote][p][bold]The Stinker Returns[/bold] wrote: What do blind people do when their guide dogs mess on the path?[/p][/quote]guide dogs are trained not to omgwtfbbq
  • Score: 7

6:05am Thu 6 Mar 14

Bigh321 says...

why isn't it law for all dog owners walking their dogs to carry bags to clear up the mess. Anyone found not carrying bags should be fined.... Then shot.
It's typical of people in this day and age, no one wants to take responsibility for F.all any more.
Lazy bar stools
why isn't it law for all dog owners walking their dogs to carry bags to clear up the mess. Anyone found not carrying bags should be fined.... Then shot. It's typical of people in this day and age, no one wants to take responsibility for F.all any more. Lazy bar stools Bigh321
  • Score: 2

7:51am Thu 6 Mar 14

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Bigh321 wrote:
why isn't it law for all dog owners walking their dogs to carry bags to clear up the mess. Anyone found not carrying bags should be fined.... Then shot.
It's typical of people in this day and age, no one wants to take responsibility for F.all any more.
Lazy bar stools
It's been a problem for decades. I can remember 30 years ago the Council sticking lots of stickers on lamposts warning people they could be fined for not clearing up after their dogs. It's nothing new.
[quote][p][bold]Bigh321[/bold] wrote: why isn't it law for all dog owners walking their dogs to carry bags to clear up the mess. Anyone found not carrying bags should be fined.... Then shot. It's typical of people in this day and age, no one wants to take responsibility for F.all any more. Lazy bar stools[/p][/quote]It's been a problem for decades. I can remember 30 years ago the Council sticking lots of stickers on lamposts warning people they could be fined for not clearing up after their dogs. It's nothing new. Ritchie_Hicks
  • Score: 3

9:29am Thu 6 Mar 14

Colchestergal1980 says...

Madcowmac wrote:
How about we post BULL S**T through his door, as it what comes out his mouth.
What an eloquent comment that is. Do tell us what "bulls**t" you feel Councillor Hunt has spoken, so we can all discuss?
[quote][p][bold]Madcowmac[/bold] wrote: How about we post BULL S**T through his door, as it what comes out his mouth.[/p][/quote]What an eloquent comment that is. Do tell us what "bulls**t" you feel Councillor Hunt has spoken, so we can all discuss? Colchestergal1980
  • Score: 6

9:33am Thu 6 Mar 14

Colchestergal1980 says...

Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
Martin Hunt talking s h i t. Nothing new there!
No, I don't think so. He's speaking in a tongue in cheek fashion of the frustration most decent people feel when selfish, filthy people flagrantly and repeatedly flout rules that keep the places we *share* and live in nice places to be. Although the Council plays a part in waste disposal, when it comes to personal responsibilty, they cannot hold everyone's hands *all the time, there aren't money or resources enough let alone the fact that if you own a dog, dogs cr** and need exercise and as an owner this is a fact you accept if you have a pet!
[quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: Martin Hunt talking s h i t. Nothing new there![/p][/quote]No, I don't think so. He's speaking in a tongue in cheek fashion of the frustration most decent people feel when selfish, filthy people flagrantly and repeatedly flout rules that keep the places we *share* and live in nice places to be. Although the Council plays a part in waste disposal, when it comes to personal responsibilty, they cannot hold everyone's hands *all the time, there aren't money or resources enough let alone the fact that if you own a dog, dogs cr** and need exercise and as an owner this is a fact you accept if you have a pet! Colchestergal1980
  • Score: 6

10:16am Thu 6 Mar 14

Catchedicam says...

Colchestergal1980 wrote:
Say It As It Is OK? wrote:
Martin Hunt talking s h i t. Nothing new there!
No, I don't think so. He's speaking in a tongue in cheek fashion of the frustration most decent people feel when selfish, filthy people flagrantly and repeatedly flout rules that keep the places we *share* and live in nice places to be. Although the Council plays a part in waste disposal, when it comes to personal responsibilty, they cannot hold everyone's hands *all the time, there aren't money or resources enough let alone the fact that if you own a dog, dogs cr** and need exercise and as an owner this is a fact you accept if you have a pet!
eloquently put.
[quote][p][bold]Colchestergal1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Say It As It Is OK?[/bold] wrote: Martin Hunt talking s h i t. Nothing new there![/p][/quote]No, I don't think so. He's speaking in a tongue in cheek fashion of the frustration most decent people feel when selfish, filthy people flagrantly and repeatedly flout rules that keep the places we *share* and live in nice places to be. Although the Council plays a part in waste disposal, when it comes to personal responsibilty, they cannot hold everyone's hands *all the time, there aren't money or resources enough let alone the fact that if you own a dog, dogs cr** and need exercise and as an owner this is a fact you accept if you have a pet![/p][/quote]eloquently put. Catchedicam
  • Score: 5

1:05pm Thu 6 Mar 14

CarolineSY says...

I agree, it is annoying when people don't pick up after their dog. But, many dog owners are responsible and clean up after them. If this strategy is aimed at dog owners, then what exactly are you suggesting for cat owners? I have to pick up cat mess from my own garden on a weekly basis, and I don't own a cat! There's nothing that I can do to stop it, and no-one that I can complain to about it. To me this is a far bigger issue, as cats are outside for much longer than dogs, and cat owners distance themselves from any responsibility. Dog owners are fined (and rightly so) if they don't clean up after their dog, but cat owners aren't.
I agree, it is annoying when people don't pick up after their dog. But, many dog owners are responsible and clean up after them. If this strategy is aimed at dog owners, then what exactly are you suggesting for cat owners? I have to pick up cat mess from my own garden on a weekly basis, and I don't own a cat! There's nothing that I can do to stop it, and no-one that I can complain to about it. To me this is a far bigger issue, as cats are outside for much longer than dogs, and cat owners distance themselves from any responsibility. Dog owners are fined (and rightly so) if they don't clean up after their dog, but cat owners aren't. CarolineSY
  • Score: 4

1:12pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Catchedicam says...

CarolineSY wrote:
I agree, it is annoying when people don't pick up after their dog. But, many dog owners are responsible and clean up after them. If this strategy is aimed at dog owners, then what exactly are you suggesting for cat owners? I have to pick up cat mess from my own garden on a weekly basis, and I don't own a cat! There's nothing that I can do to stop it, and no-one that I can complain to about it. To me this is a far bigger issue, as cats are outside for much longer than dogs, and cat owners distance themselves from any responsibility. Dog owners are fined (and rightly so) if they don't clean up after their dog, but cat owners aren't.
Have a dog, they can make a tasty snack for rottweiler or doberman. :-)
[quote][p][bold]CarolineSY[/bold] wrote: I agree, it is annoying when people don't pick up after their dog. But, many dog owners are responsible and clean up after them. If this strategy is aimed at dog owners, then what exactly are you suggesting for cat owners? I have to pick up cat mess from my own garden on a weekly basis, and I don't own a cat! There's nothing that I can do to stop it, and no-one that I can complain to about it. To me this is a far bigger issue, as cats are outside for much longer than dogs, and cat owners distance themselves from any responsibility. Dog owners are fined (and rightly so) if they don't clean up after their dog, but cat owners aren't.[/p][/quote]Have a dog, they can make a tasty snack for rottweiler or doberman. :-) Catchedicam
  • Score: -2

9:36pm Thu 6 Mar 14

Cllr Dave Harris says...

Catchedicam wrote:
As a dog owner, I am disgusted that other owners feel it's OK not to clean up after their dog, and also to teach it to deposit faeces in public areas, this is a learned behaviour. I have had a number of dogs of varying breeds over the years and they have, without exception, always selected a corner of the garden to use as their toilet area, I always clean this up immediately and they will always return to this spot. This is a normal dog behaviour and I have never had a dog that fouled public areas, except in the most exceptional of circumstances.
Lots of Dog owners feel let down by the ones who do not clear up --- its the ones who don't that need sorting --- Good owners are clearing up all the time
Catch em - and prosecute !!!
[quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: As a dog owner, I am disgusted that other owners feel it's OK not to clean up after their dog, and also to teach it to deposit faeces in public areas, this is a learned behaviour. I have had a number of dogs of varying breeds over the years and they have, without exception, always selected a corner of the garden to use as their toilet area, I always clean this up immediately and they will always return to this spot. This is a normal dog behaviour and I have never had a dog that fouled public areas, except in the most exceptional of circumstances.[/p][/quote]Lots of Dog owners feel let down by the ones who do not clear up --- its the ones who don't that need sorting --- Good owners are clearing up all the time Catch em - and prosecute !!! Cllr Dave Harris
  • Score: 4

8:18pm Fri 7 Mar 14

angryman!!! says...

I don't feel guilty or let down as a dog owner myself by other owners. Some people have horrid children that drop litter, swear, steal and what ever but that doesn't mean that as a parent I feel let down by them.
As a reponsible dog owner it amazes me how fee poo bins there are I don't think this would be a cure but it would certainly make life easier.
Also what about horse crap, the amount of horse crap that can be found in villages or even built up areas like harwich rd nr the beehive is incredible, also if you are persecute pet owners you could start with cat owners, who are more than happy to let their cats out fully understanding that it will poo in someone else garden!
I don't feel guilty or let down as a dog owner myself by other owners. Some people have horrid children that drop litter, swear, steal and what ever but that doesn't mean that as a parent I feel let down by them. As a reponsible dog owner it amazes me how fee poo bins there are I don't think this would be a cure but it would certainly make life easier. Also what about horse crap, the amount of horse crap that can be found in villages or even built up areas like harwich rd nr the beehive is incredible, also if you are persecute pet owners you could start with cat owners, who are more than happy to let their cats out fully understanding that it will poo in someone else garden! angryman!!!
  • Score: 3

11:53pm Sat 8 Mar 14

Reginald47 says...

angryman!!! wrote:
I don't feel guilty or let down as a dog owner myself by other owners. Some people have horrid children that drop litter, swear, steal and what ever but that doesn't mean that as a parent I feel let down by them. As a reponsible dog owner it amazes me how fee poo bins there are I don't think this would be a cure but it would certainly make life easier. Also what about horse crap, the amount of horse crap that can be found in villages or even built up areas like harwich rd nr the beehive is incredible, also if you are persecute pet owners you could start with cat owners, who are more than happy to let their cats out fully understanding that it will poo in someone else garden!
Horse crap can be shoved on the garden - dog crap can't.
[quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: I don't feel guilty or let down as a dog owner myself by other owners. Some people have horrid children that drop litter, swear, steal and what ever but that doesn't mean that as a parent I feel let down by them. As a reponsible dog owner it amazes me how fee poo bins there are I don't think this would be a cure but it would certainly make life easier. Also what about horse crap, the amount of horse crap that can be found in villages or even built up areas like harwich rd nr the beehive is incredible, also if you are persecute pet owners you could start with cat owners, who are more than happy to let their cats out fully understanding that it will poo in someone else garden![/p][/quote]Horse crap can be shoved on the garden - dog crap can't. Reginald47
  • Score: 0

1:57am Sun 9 Mar 14

Boris says...

Reginald47 wrote:
angryman!!! wrote:
I don't feel guilty or let down as a dog owner myself by other owners. Some people have horrid children that drop litter, swear, steal and what ever but that doesn't mean that as a parent I feel let down by them. As a reponsible dog owner it amazes me how fee poo bins there are I don't think this would be a cure but it would certainly make life easier. Also what about horse crap, the amount of horse crap that can be found in villages or even built up areas like harwich rd nr the beehive is incredible, also if you are persecute pet owners you could start with cat owners, who are more than happy to let their cats out fully understanding that it will poo in someone else garden!
Horse crap can be shoved on the garden - dog crap can't.
Many years ago, when horse transport was still common, people were happy when a horse crapped in the road outside their home. They used to rush out with their shovels, and sometimes there would be scuffles when the crap was on disputed "territory".
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: I don't feel guilty or let down as a dog owner myself by other owners. Some people have horrid children that drop litter, swear, steal and what ever but that doesn't mean that as a parent I feel let down by them. As a reponsible dog owner it amazes me how fee poo bins there are I don't think this would be a cure but it would certainly make life easier. Also what about horse crap, the amount of horse crap that can be found in villages or even built up areas like harwich rd nr the beehive is incredible, also if you are persecute pet owners you could start with cat owners, who are more than happy to let their cats out fully understanding that it will poo in someone else garden![/p][/quote]Horse crap can be shoved on the garden - dog crap can't.[/p][/quote]Many years ago, when horse transport was still common, people were happy when a horse crapped in the road outside their home. They used to rush out with their shovels, and sometimes there would be scuffles when the crap was on disputed "territory". Boris
  • Score: 4

2:51pm Sun 9 Mar 14

rhetoric says...

Totally agree with Boris. I was once given 3p, a whole week's pocket money, when I was fortunate enough to spot horse droppings and rushed out to shovel them into a bucket and take them home.
Totally agree with Boris. I was once given 3p, a whole week's pocket money, when I was fortunate enough to spot horse droppings and rushed out to shovel them into a bucket and take them home. rhetoric
  • Score: 3

3:37pm Sun 9 Mar 14

Angry of Lexden says...

One has read the mail on this subject to date and it does seem are agreed that, not to pick one's dog pooh is unacceptable. The problem in Lexden is minimal apart from those areas such as the Hilly Files which are open to all.

Occasionally one walks from the Cowdray Centre under the raillway into the Country Park. The footpath is a problem. The strange thing is that the trees in the County Park are tastefully decorated with little parcels of dog pooh. This would suggest that some the 'lower orders', the real perpetrators, have at least got the hang of picking it up.

We now must devise some way of motivating them to complete the process and use the bins provided, or take it back to their own hovels .

Dog Wardens it's over to you - a few fines would do the trick!
One has read the mail on this subject to date and it does seem are agreed that, not to pick one's dog pooh is unacceptable. The problem in Lexden is minimal apart from those areas such as the Hilly Files which are open to all. Occasionally one walks from the Cowdray Centre under the raillway into the Country Park. The footpath is a problem. The strange thing is that the trees in the County Park are tastefully decorated with little parcels of dog pooh. This would suggest that some the 'lower orders', the real perpetrators, have at least got the hang of picking it up. We now must devise some way of motivating them to complete the process and use the bins provided, or take it back to their own hovels . Dog Wardens it's over to you - a few fines would do the trick! Angry of Lexden
  • Score: 1

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