No plans to remove Swastikas from council building

Essex County Standard: No plans to remove Swastikas from council building No plans to remove Swastikas from council building

Essex County Council has confirmed it has no plans to remove swastika symbols from its county hall building.

A member of the public submitted to a Freedom of Information request to the authority asking why they were on the Chelmsford building.

They believed the symbols could be offensive and upsetting to those who fought in the Second World War.

An Essex County Council spokesman said: “Plans for the County Hall building were drawn up from 1908 and our records show that the architect was ordered to finalise the plans in October 1926.

“Given similar designs are featured on a number of other public buildings of similar age across the world, including churches and universities, it is important that the symbol is seen in its architectural context.

“This part of County Hall has Grade II listed status and any changes to this frontage could be extremely costly to the public purse and would have to be approved by English Heritage.

“At this time, Essex County Council is not considering applying for permission to remove the design from the building.”

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9:16am Sat 1 Mar 14

Checkout says...

Why should ECC remove them? They are entirely appropriate as seen from Colchester.
Why should ECC remove them? They are entirely appropriate as seen from Colchester. Checkout
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9:41am Sat 1 Mar 14

Catchedicam says...

The swastika is a good luck symbol, doesn't seem to have worked where ECC are concerned.
The swastika is a good luck symbol, doesn't seem to have worked where ECC are concerned. Catchedicam
  • Score: 8

11:37am Sat 1 Mar 14

Jack222 says...

Good. These are Indian Swastikas - not Nazi ones (they go the other way). people need to be able to tell the difference.

Storm in a tea cup.
Good. These are Indian Swastikas - not Nazi ones (they go the other way). people need to be able to tell the difference. Storm in a tea cup. Jack222
  • Score: 6

11:54am Sat 1 Mar 14

george5 says...

The swastika is a perfectly respectable symbol in Eastern religions, as even the BBC might know if they did their research. It is used in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism and the locations of temples on maps are often indicated by the symbol. The Nazis corrupted this religious symbol but tended to use it on the diagonal
The swastika is a perfectly respectable symbol in Eastern religions, as even the BBC might know if they did their research. It is used in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism and the locations of temples on maps are often indicated by the symbol. The Nazis corrupted this religious symbol but tended to use it on the diagonal george5
  • Score: 6

1:16pm Sat 1 Mar 14

hughie-s says...

Just call them by their correct name, fylfot, a symbol which is also in the centre of the Colchester Borough Coat of Arms which dates from 1413. Destroying history you don't agree with would to me seem to be rather too close to the polices of the bloke with the funny moustache.
Just call them by their correct name, fylfot, a symbol which is also in the centre of the Colchester Borough Coat of Arms which dates from 1413. Destroying history you don't agree with would to me seem to be rather too close to the polices of the bloke with the funny moustache. hughie-s
  • Score: 8

2:59pm Sat 1 Mar 14

pierre-pierre says...

did anyone notice that the county hall has right and left facing symbols the Nazi use is the right facing one?, (clockwise)

keep on seeing mention of the Colchester arms, it looks like four tree branches to me, certainly not a fylfot or swastika
did anyone notice that the county hall has right and left facing symbols the Nazi use is the right facing one?, (clockwise) keep on seeing mention of the Colchester arms, it looks like four tree branches to me, certainly not a fylfot or swastika pierre-pierre
  • Score: 1

5:31pm Sat 1 Mar 14

hughie-s says...

pierre-pierre wrote:
did anyone notice that the county hall has right and left facing symbols the Nazi use is the right facing one?, (clockwise)

keep on seeing mention of the Colchester arms, it looks like four tree branches to me, certainly not a fylfot or swastika
http://www.colcheste
r.gov.uk/article/189
9/The-borough-arms

"The True Cross is shown as a green living tree and is divided into four equal parts by a fylfot (swastika) which is a very ancient symbol of good fortune, since it is the same whichever way up it falls"
[quote][p][bold]pierre-pierre[/bold] wrote: did anyone notice that the county hall has right and left facing symbols the Nazi use is the right facing one?, (clockwise) keep on seeing mention of the Colchester arms, it looks like four tree branches to me, certainly not a fylfot or swastika[/p][/quote]http://www.colcheste r.gov.uk/article/189 9/The-borough-arms "The True Cross is shown as a green living tree and is divided into four equal parts by a fylfot (swastika) which is a very ancient symbol of good fortune, since it is the same whichever way up it falls" hughie-s
  • Score: 0

5:35pm Sat 1 Mar 14

stevedawson says...

Who gives a fylfot?
Who gives a fylfot? stevedawson
  • Score: 1

5:56pm Sat 1 Mar 14

pierre-pierre says...

yes that one does show a LH swastica (anti Clockwise) at the centre, but many others on the web dont seem to
yes that one does show a LH swastica (anti Clockwise) at the centre, but many others on the web dont seem to pierre-pierre
  • Score: 0

6:35pm Sat 1 Mar 14

gayle7654 says...

At first glimpse I would say, the general public would think, Swastica. Considering what the current council members did to Deanes School for the past 9 months, I think that symbolic reference is an appropriate representation in their case.
At first glimpse I would say, the general public would think, Swastica. Considering what the current council members did to Deanes School for the past 9 months, I think that symbolic reference is an appropriate representation in their case. gayle7654
  • Score: 0

9:49pm Sat 1 Mar 14

carnuts says...

Jack222 wrote:
Good. These are Indian Swastikas - not Nazi ones (they go the other way). people need to be able to tell the difference. Storm in a tea cup.
If you 'LOOK' at them they go both ways
[quote][p][bold]Jack222[/bold] wrote: Good. These are Indian Swastikas - not Nazi ones (they go the other way). people need to be able to tell the difference. Storm in a tea cup.[/p][/quote]If you 'LOOK' at them they go both ways carnuts
  • Score: 0

12:58pm Sun 2 Mar 14

No! I am Spartacus says...

'A member of the public submitted to a Freedom of Information request to the authority asking why they were on the Chelmsford building.'
.... Some people have way too much time in their hands.
'A member of the public submitted to a Freedom of Information request to the authority asking why they were on the Chelmsford building.' .... Some people have way too much time in their hands. No! I am Spartacus
  • Score: 4

1:36am Mon 3 Mar 14

Boris says...

No! I am Spartacus wrote:
'A member of the public submitted to a Freedom of Information request to the authority asking why they were on the Chelmsford building.'
.... Some people have way too much time in their hands.
This single person appears to be as stupid as the handful of people in Sudbury who were reported as having objected to a butcher displaying dead pheasants, partridges and rabbits in his shop window.
[quote][p][bold]No! I am Spartacus[/bold] wrote: 'A member of the public submitted to a Freedom of Information request to the authority asking why they were on the Chelmsford building.' .... Some people have way too much time in their hands.[/p][/quote]This single person appears to be as stupid as the handful of people in Sudbury who were reported as having objected to a butcher displaying dead pheasants, partridges and rabbits in his shop window. Boris
  • Score: 2

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