Concerns raised over plans to demolish former pub

Essex County Standard: Concerns raised over plans to demolish former pub Concerns raised over plans to demolish former pub

A CRICKET club has urged the developers behind plans to turn a former pub into a doctor’s surgery and chemist to help it improve its own facilities.

Barkley Projects has applied to demolish the Langenhoe Lion in Mersea Road, between Abberton and Langenhoe.

There would also be an 18-space car park and two, four-bedroom detached homes.

But the plans have been met with concern from residents including Abberton and District Cricket Club, based in Abberton Road.

Treasurer Brian Bashford said the planning application tried to justify the loss of the village amenity by saying the village school, hall, church and cricket club provided “adequate social provision.”

But he said the club doesn’t have to cash to provide the void left by the loss of the pub long term.

See Thursday's Gazette

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6:38pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Jess Jephcott says...

Scant regard for the only pub in Langenhoe and one that is over 200 years old. Langenhoe people, when you have lost the last of your inns, go drown your empty selves, for you will have lost the last of England.
Scant regard for the only pub in Langenhoe and one that is over 200 years old. Langenhoe people, when you have lost the last of your inns, go drown your empty selves, for you will have lost the last of England. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 6

8:15pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Baba Yaga says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Scant regard for the only pub in Langenhoe and one that is over 200 years old. Langenhoe people, when you have lost the last of your inns, go drown your empty selves, for you will have lost the last of England.
Jess,
Sadly, the only pub serving both Abberton and Langenhoe was closed because there was not enough custom to make it viable. Fantastic quote though even if attributable to a Frenchman...
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Scant regard for the only pub in Langenhoe and one that is over 200 years old. Langenhoe people, when you have lost the last of your inns, go drown your empty selves, for you will have lost the last of England.[/p][/quote]Jess, Sadly, the only pub serving both Abberton and Langenhoe was closed because there was not enough custom to make it viable. Fantastic quote though even if attributable to a Frenchman... Baba Yaga
  • Score: 3

1:48am Thu 30 Jan 14

Boris says...

Both Jess and Baba Yaga are right.
It is a real shame that the good old Langenhoe Lion was closed. But why demolish this landmark building? It could easily be converted to a doctor's surgery as it is. The shortsighted denizens of Langenhoe and Abberton should try to salvage their consciences by all writing in with objections to the proposed demolition.
Interesting that Layer-de-la-Haye, on a less important road out of Colchester, has two thriving pubs. Maybe because their landlords have provided better service.
Both Jess and Baba Yaga are right. It is a real shame that the good old Langenhoe Lion was closed. But why demolish this landmark building? It could easily be converted to a doctor's surgery as it is. The shortsighted denizens of Langenhoe and Abberton should try to salvage their consciences by all writing in with objections to the proposed demolition. Interesting that Layer-de-la-Haye, on a less important road out of Colchester, has two thriving pubs. Maybe because their landlords have provided better service. Boris
  • Score: 6

11:16am Thu 30 Jan 14

Jess Jephcott says...

Spot on Boris. There was not enough custom at the Lion because it was badly run. Successful pubs are a product of who runs them, not their location. A reputation can be easily lost but much more difficult to build.
Spot on Boris. There was not enough custom at the Lion because it was badly run. Successful pubs are a product of who runs them, not their location. A reputation can be easily lost but much more difficult to build. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: 7

11:19am Thu 30 Jan 14

romantic says...

Agree with all the above. Sadly, the saying "use it or lose it" applies here. This is in a good location, on the road down to Mersea (recently announced as one of the top 50 destinations in the world!). Could have a thriving food thing going on, and enough space for the locals to have a proper beer-centred bar. There's plenty of passing trade, a couple of thousand people within walking distance.

Partially paraphrasing Jess, a village without a pub is a place without a heart. Go to a well-run village pub and it is where the real pulse of the village is. Sit at home and drink supermarket beer all night and you will just never know this. Sad. If I had the necessary cash, I'd jump in and buy the place myself!
Agree with all the above. Sadly, the saying "use it or lose it" applies here. This is in a good location, on the road down to Mersea (recently announced as one of the top 50 destinations in the world!). Could have a thriving food thing going on, and enough space for the locals to have a proper beer-centred bar. There's plenty of passing trade, a couple of thousand people within walking distance. Partially paraphrasing Jess, a village without a pub is a place without a heart. Go to a well-run village pub and it is where the real pulse of the village is. Sit at home and drink supermarket beer all night and you will just never know this. Sad. If I had the necessary cash, I'd jump in and buy the place myself! romantic
  • Score: 6

12:57pm Thu 30 Jan 14

omgwtfbbq says...

It does not matter who runs a village pub, if a few locals don't welcome outsiders and make them feel uncomfortable they don't come back ant them few locals lose their pub, its tough you should have been more friendly!
It does not matter who runs a village pub, if a few locals don't welcome outsiders and make them feel uncomfortable they don't come back ant them few locals lose their pub, its tough you should have been more friendly! omgwtfbbq
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Thu 30 Jan 14

stevedawson says...

In recent years a very questionable place to even stop on a hot day returning from the beach.not at all surprised it has come to this.
In recent years a very questionable place to even stop on a hot day returning from the beach.not at all surprised it has come to this. stevedawson
  • Score: 2

1:49am Fri 31 Jan 14

Boris says...

omgwtfbbq wrote:
It does not matter who runs a village pub, if a few locals don't welcome outsiders and make them feel uncomfortable they don't come back ant them few locals lose their pub, its tough you should have been more friendly!
This is a really important point. The best village pubs manage to please both the locals (who are only there for the beer) and the visitors (who have come to enjoy a good meal, but will not drink much beer). If the layout allows them to keep these groups largely separate, this helps make the pub a success.
[quote][p][bold]omgwtfbbq[/bold] wrote: It does not matter who runs a village pub, if a few locals don't welcome outsiders and make them feel uncomfortable they don't come back ant them few locals lose their pub, its tough you should have been more friendly![/p][/quote]This is a really important point. The best village pubs manage to please both the locals (who are only there for the beer) and the visitors (who have come to enjoy a good meal, but will not drink much beer). If the layout allows them to keep these groups largely separate, this helps make the pub a success. Boris
  • Score: 0

1:54am Fri 31 Jan 14

Boris says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
Spot on Boris. There was not enough custom at the Lion because it was badly run. Successful pubs are a product of who runs them, not their location. A reputation can be easily lost but much more difficult to build.
You are spot on too, Jess. We may disagree on some other things, but like everyone else I greatly respect your devotion to our pubs and history.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: Spot on Boris. There was not enough custom at the Lion because it was badly run. Successful pubs are a product of who runs them, not their location. A reputation can be easily lost but much more difficult to build.[/p][/quote]You are spot on too, Jess. We may disagree on some other things, but like everyone else I greatly respect your devotion to our pubs and history. Boris
  • Score: 3

10:20am Fri 31 Jan 14

Jess Jephcott says...

It is obvious what is going on here. A nice car park is perfect for building houses on. Out in a bad landlord to run the place down and then blame the lack of customers on its demise. This pub used to be excellent and could be again. The people of Langenhoe deserve all they get in letting this gem of a pub be lost to them. As to locals making newcomers unwelcome, if I were the landlord I would turf them out. No pub needs people like that.
It is obvious what is going on here. A nice car park is perfect for building houses on. Out in a bad landlord to run the place down and then blame the lack of customers on its demise. This pub used to be excellent and could be again. The people of Langenhoe deserve all they get in letting this gem of a pub be lost to them. As to locals making newcomers unwelcome, if I were the landlord I would turf them out. No pub needs people like that. Jess Jephcott
  • Score: -1

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