UPDATED: Teenage boy knocked down at pedestrian crossing

Essex County Standard: Teenage boy knocked down at pedestrian crossing Teenage boy knocked down at pedestrian crossing

UPDATED: A TEENAGER has been hit by a car at a pedestrian crossing in Colchester.

Police and paramedics were called to Balkerne Hill at 3.20pm today.

Several people called 999 following the crash with the air ambulance put on standby.

By 4pm paramedics were still treating the victim, believed to be a schoolboy. at the scene.

He was rushed to Colchester General Hospital with serious injuries soon after.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the collision between a blue Peugeot 306 and the boy to call police on 101.

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5:59pm Tue 28 Jan 14

karen f says...

Hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.
Hope he makes a full and speedy recovery. karen f
  • Score: 14

6:00pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Teacupsuch says...

I HATE the lights at that crossing, change too quickly and flash yellow and for some reason the cars think that means GO! Colchester Council needs to sort this out many letters have been sent to them regarding this death trap! I smell a petition coming!! It is just a shame it was not done sooner!
I HATE the lights at that crossing, change too quickly and flash yellow and for some reason the cars think that means GO! Colchester Council needs to sort this out many letters have been sent to them regarding this death trap! I smell a petition coming!! It is just a shame it was not done sooner! Teacupsuch
  • Score: 20

6:28pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Harry.Brown says...

Yes me to i hope to god he makes a full recovery

cars at that junction just wont stop

there off the line when the lights change like brands hatch
what will it take for people to learn the roads are not race tracks:
Yes me to i hope to god he makes a full recovery cars at that junction just wont stop there off the line when the lights change like brands hatch what will it take for people to learn the roads are not race tracks: Harry.Brown
  • Score: 18

6:47pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

So many accidents between pedestrians and cars have happened at the crossing over the years, it really is time something was done. For drivers unfamiliar with Colchester, navigating Maldon Road roundabout can be a challenge - especially at busy times. To come off the roundabout and have the traffic lights there immediately afterwards for a pedestrian crossing is a recipe for disaster, especially if drivers don't know Colchester very well.
So many accidents between pedestrians and cars have happened at the crossing over the years, it really is time something was done. For drivers unfamiliar with Colchester, navigating Maldon Road roundabout can be a challenge - especially at busy times. To come off the roundabout and have the traffic lights there immediately afterwards for a pedestrian crossing is a recipe for disaster, especially if drivers don't know Colchester very well. Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 20

7:10pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Ontheball says...

Shut the crossing down and use the underpass.
Shut the crossing down and use the underpass. Ontheball
  • Score: 9

8:27pm Tue 28 Jan 14

betjobra says...

Yup, use the underpass!! As a driver myself, more often than not I am to busy watching idiotic drivers at this roundabout that are cutting me up and trying to avoid a collision with them, let alone watching the crossing as well!! It's a disastrous place to even imagine putting a crossing, and why is it even there when there is a perfectly good and safer to use underpass???
Yup, use the underpass!! As a driver myself, more often than not I am to busy watching idiotic drivers at this roundabout that are cutting me up and trying to avoid a collision with them, let alone watching the crossing as well!! It's a disastrous place to even imagine putting a crossing, and why is it even there when there is a perfectly good and safer to use underpass??? betjobra
  • Score: 6

9:49pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Assimilation says...

CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.
CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other. Assimilation
  • Score: 16

11:19pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Boris says...

The crossing is there because of a determined campaign promoted by the Essex County Standard in the 1980s. There were also a couple of rape incidents in the subway, which led to women refusing to use it, and crossing at surface level regardless of the risk of being hit.
Any driver who can't handle traffic on the roundabout and the crossing at the same time should give up driving.
The crossing is there because of a determined campaign promoted by the Essex County Standard in the 1980s. There were also a couple of rape incidents in the subway, which led to women refusing to use it, and crossing at surface level regardless of the risk of being hit. Any driver who can't handle traffic on the roundabout and the crossing at the same time should give up driving. Boris
  • Score: 27

11:35pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Boris says...

karen f wrote:
Hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.
Yes, let's hope he makes a full recovery. But it may not be speedy, for it seems the poor boy was pretty badly hurt. Let's hope for the best.
[quote][p][bold]karen f[/bold] wrote: Hope he makes a full and speedy recovery.[/p][/quote]Yes, let's hope he makes a full recovery. But it may not be speedy, for it seems the poor boy was pretty badly hurt. Let's hope for the best. Boris
  • Score: 9

11:43pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Mind your own business says...

Another old person who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car runs someone down and almost kills them,
Another old person who shouldn't be behind the wheel of a car runs someone down and almost kills them, Mind your own business
  • Score: -15

7:20am Wed 29 Jan 14

wormshero says...

Assimilation wrote:
CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.
I agree with Boris that anyone who can't handle it shouldn't be on the road, simple as that. However I do also question why so many roundabouts in Colchester have adjoining pedestrian crossings, as surely this does increase risk. Personally I find the one involved yesterday to be easy enough to watch both the traffic and the approaching lights due to their position, but there's some like at the end of St. Andrews avenue which link two roundabouts into an instant zebra crossing, which isn't so obvious. I much prefer using the crossing at the top of the hill to the underpass but there (and a few other places in Colchester-the crossing on the main road going towards the a12 from the station side of town for example) where even if it's green to cross I'll cautiously wait for any cars to stop completely, as I don't trust them that much.
[quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.[/p][/quote]I agree with Boris that anyone who can't handle it shouldn't be on the road, simple as that. However I do also question why so many roundabouts in Colchester have adjoining pedestrian crossings, as surely this does increase risk. Personally I find the one involved yesterday to be easy enough to watch both the traffic and the approaching lights due to their position, but there's some like at the end of St. Andrews avenue which link two roundabouts into an instant zebra crossing, which isn't so obvious. I much prefer using the crossing at the top of the hill to the underpass but there (and a few other places in Colchester-the crossing on the main road going towards the a12 from the station side of town for example) where even if it's green to cross I'll cautiously wait for any cars to stop completely, as I don't trust them that much. wormshero
  • Score: 5

10:24am Wed 29 Jan 14

Catchedicam says...

This is not CBC, Essex CC deal with highways issues, vent your spleen where the blame lies.
This is not CBC, Essex CC deal with highways issues, vent your spleen where the blame lies. Catchedicam
  • Score: 2

10:54am Wed 29 Jan 14

Arthur Fonzarelli says...

Catchedicam wrote:
This is not CBC, Essex CC deal with highways issues, vent your spleen where the blame lies.
Blame lies with either the driver or the padestrian after all one of them ignored the lights.
[quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: This is not CBC, Essex CC deal with highways issues, vent your spleen where the blame lies.[/p][/quote]Blame lies with either the driver or the padestrian after all one of them ignored the lights. Arthur Fonzarelli
  • Score: 4

11:07am Wed 29 Jan 14

Catchedicam says...

Arthur Fonzarelli wrote:
Catchedicam wrote:
This is not CBC, Essex CC deal with highways issues, vent your spleen where the blame lies.
Blame lies with either the driver or the padestrian after all one of them ignored the lights.
Quite correct, Arthur, however I was commenting on the discussion over the placement of crossings immediately after roundabouts, which does seem to be contributory factor to incidents such as this.
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Fonzarelli[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Catchedicam[/bold] wrote: This is not CBC, Essex CC deal with highways issues, vent your spleen where the blame lies.[/p][/quote]Blame lies with either the driver or the padestrian after all one of them ignored the lights.[/p][/quote]Quite correct, Arthur, however I was commenting on the discussion over the placement of crossings immediately after roundabouts, which does seem to be contributory factor to incidents such as this. Catchedicam
  • Score: 2

12:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Mind your own business says...

Stop, look and listen! Learn Green Cross Code.
Stop, look and listen! Learn Green Cross Code. Mind your own business
  • Score: 2

12:30pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Mr Doolittle says...

Firsly, and above all, I sincerely wish the young lad all the best and full recovery from the accident. My thoughts are with his family too, as a parent myself I feel for them.

Entering into the debate on crossings though, my understanding is that if there's no-one on the crossing, a flashing amber allows vehicles to proceed with caution and pedestrians shouldn't then set foot on the crossing. I'm not going to speculate on the facts of the matter here, just feel that one or two rections above may not show a full understanding of pelican crossings.

I appreciate that as a driver I'm potentially 'shooting my self in the foot' here, but as drivers we are far too keen to get from A to B as quickly as possible and give very little consideration to pedestrians and cyclists. Pedestrian crossings in towns have to be at major junctions as a matter of necessity, so there has to be some compromise reached.

Although it's not a total solution, I'd suggest a 20mph speed limit approaching and on roundabouts and junctions that incorporate pedestrian crossings. I feel that in towns pedestrians and cyclists should be taking precedence and that motorised vehicle drivers need to accept this.
Firsly, and above all, I sincerely wish the young lad all the best and full recovery from the accident. My thoughts are with his family too, as a parent myself I feel for them. Entering into the debate on crossings though, my understanding is that if there's no-one on the crossing, a flashing amber allows vehicles to proceed with caution and pedestrians shouldn't then set foot on the crossing. I'm not going to speculate on the facts of the matter here, just feel that one or two rections above may not show a full understanding of pelican crossings. I appreciate that as a driver I'm potentially 'shooting my self in the foot' here, but as drivers we are far too keen to get from A to B as quickly as possible and give very little consideration to pedestrians and cyclists. Pedestrian crossings in towns have to be at major junctions as a matter of necessity, so there has to be some compromise reached. Although it's not a total solution, I'd suggest a 20mph speed limit approaching and on roundabouts and junctions that incorporate pedestrian crossings. I feel that in towns pedestrians and cyclists should be taking precedence and that motorised vehicle drivers need to accept this. Mr Doolittle
  • Score: 13

1:05pm Wed 29 Jan 14

common sense or not says...

I have been on that crossing as a pedestrian and been stranded between two lanes of fast moving cars as if it switches to flashing just as you are about to cross the second lane of traffic and you are in the middle of the 2 lanes both will go. It is very frightening but not uncommon. The underpass is not always an alternative if you have bad knees or are short of breath and find the slope too steep.
I have been on that crossing as a pedestrian and been stranded between two lanes of fast moving cars as if it switches to flashing just as you are about to cross the second lane of traffic and you are in the middle of the 2 lanes both will go. It is very frightening but not uncommon. The underpass is not always an alternative if you have bad knees or are short of breath and find the slope too steep. common sense or not
  • Score: 5

2:25pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Catchedicam says...

common sense or not wrote:
I have been on that crossing as a pedestrian and been stranded between two lanes of fast moving cars as if it switches to flashing just as you are about to cross the second lane of traffic and you are in the middle of the 2 lanes both will go. It is very frightening but not uncommon. The underpass is not always an alternative if you have bad knees or are short of breath and find the slope too steep.
That's because it is two separate crossing, not one continuous crossing.
[quote][p][bold]common sense or not[/bold] wrote: I have been on that crossing as a pedestrian and been stranded between two lanes of fast moving cars as if it switches to flashing just as you are about to cross the second lane of traffic and you are in the middle of the 2 lanes both will go. It is very frightening but not uncommon. The underpass is not always an alternative if you have bad knees or are short of breath and find the slope too steep.[/p][/quote]That's because it is two separate crossing, not one continuous crossing. Catchedicam
  • Score: 5

2:32pm Wed 29 Jan 14

998dave says...

betjobra wrote:
Yup, use the underpass!! As a driver myself, more often than not I am to busy watching idiotic drivers at this roundabout that are cutting me up and trying to avoid a collision with them, let alone watching the crossing as well!! It's a disastrous place to even imagine putting a crossing, and why is it even there when there is a perfectly good and safer to use underpass???
If this is the case, maybe you should be driving slower so as to give yourself time to avoid the drivers and pay attention to the crossing...
There's actually quite a distance from the roundabout to the crossing, (compare it to the zebra crossings from waitrose roundabout onto Cowdray Avenue).
[quote][p][bold]betjobra[/bold] wrote: Yup, use the underpass!! As a driver myself, more often than not I am to busy watching idiotic drivers at this roundabout that are cutting me up and trying to avoid a collision with them, let alone watching the crossing as well!! It's a disastrous place to even imagine putting a crossing, and why is it even there when there is a perfectly good and safer to use underpass???[/p][/quote]If this is the case, maybe you should be driving slower so as to give yourself time to avoid the drivers and pay attention to the crossing... There's actually quite a distance from the roundabout to the crossing, (compare it to the zebra crossings from waitrose roundabout onto Cowdray Avenue). 998dave
  • Score: 5

2:39pm Wed 29 Jan 14

998dave says...

wormshero wrote:
Assimilation wrote: CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.
I agree with Boris that anyone who can't handle it shouldn't be on the road, simple as that. However I do also question why so many roundabouts in Colchester have adjoining pedestrian crossings, as surely this does increase risk. Personally I find the one involved yesterday to be easy enough to watch both the traffic and the approaching lights due to their position, but there's some like at the end of St. Andrews avenue which link two roundabouts into an instant zebra crossing, which isn't so obvious. I much prefer using the crossing at the top of the hill to the underpass but there (and a few other places in Colchester-the crossing on the main road going towards the a12 from the station side of town for example) where even if it's green to cross I'll cautiously wait for any cars to stop completely, as I don't trust them that much.
I imagine it's because footpaths are next to roads, and so the crossings have to be close to junctions. If you put the crossing 100m down the road nobody would use it as it'd be too much extra distance to walk.
[quote][p][bold]wormshero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.[/p][/quote]I agree with Boris that anyone who can't handle it shouldn't be on the road, simple as that. However I do also question why so many roundabouts in Colchester have adjoining pedestrian crossings, as surely this does increase risk. Personally I find the one involved yesterday to be easy enough to watch both the traffic and the approaching lights due to their position, but there's some like at the end of St. Andrews avenue which link two roundabouts into an instant zebra crossing, which isn't so obvious. I much prefer using the crossing at the top of the hill to the underpass but there (and a few other places in Colchester-the crossing on the main road going towards the a12 from the station side of town for example) where even if it's green to cross I'll cautiously wait for any cars to stop completely, as I don't trust them that much.[/p][/quote]I imagine it's because footpaths are next to roads, and so the crossings have to be close to junctions. If you put the crossing 100m down the road nobody would use it as it'd be too much extra distance to walk. 998dave
  • Score: 5

4:19pm Wed 29 Jan 14

romantic says...

betjobra wrote:
Yup, use the underpass!! As a driver myself, more often than not I am to busy watching idiotic drivers at this roundabout that are cutting me up and trying to avoid a collision with them, let alone watching the crossing as well!! It's a disastrous place to even imagine putting a crossing, and why is it even there when there is a perfectly good and safer to use underpass???
Why should pedestrians be forced through an underpass just because motorists get upset if their journey is extended by, oh I don't know, 30 seconds?

I would hesitate to describe any underpass as "safer to use". Even if actual incidents are rare, I am sure many people are nervous to use them, as you have no idea who is down there. I'm a strapping bloke who works out and looks like a bruiser, and I would normally choose the crossing. I really wouldn't want my elderly parents going through there at night.

There is no reason to shove pedestrians aside. The crossings have to be at places where people will use them. If it means drivers have to slow down and take more care, so be it. If it delays a driver by a minute, so be it.
[quote][p][bold]betjobra[/bold] wrote: Yup, use the underpass!! As a driver myself, more often than not I am to busy watching idiotic drivers at this roundabout that are cutting me up and trying to avoid a collision with them, let alone watching the crossing as well!! It's a disastrous place to even imagine putting a crossing, and why is it even there when there is a perfectly good and safer to use underpass???[/p][/quote]Why should pedestrians be forced through an underpass just because motorists get upset if their journey is extended by, oh I don't know, 30 seconds? I would hesitate to describe any underpass as "safer to use". Even if actual incidents are rare, I am sure many people are nervous to use them, as you have no idea who is down there. I'm a strapping bloke who works out and looks like a bruiser, and I would normally choose the crossing. I really wouldn't want my elderly parents going through there at night. There is no reason to shove pedestrians aside. The crossings have to be at places where people will use them. If it means drivers have to slow down and take more care, so be it. If it delays a driver by a minute, so be it. romantic
  • Score: 5

5:14pm Wed 29 Jan 14

romantic says...

wormshero wrote:
Assimilation wrote:
CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.
I agree with Boris that anyone who can't handle it shouldn't be on the road, simple as that. However I do also question why so many roundabouts in Colchester have adjoining pedestrian crossings, as surely this does increase risk. Personally I find the one involved yesterday to be easy enough to watch both the traffic and the approaching lights due to their position, but there's some like at the end of St. Andrews avenue which link two roundabouts into an instant zebra crossing, which isn't so obvious. I much prefer using the crossing at the top of the hill to the underpass but there (and a few other places in Colchester-the crossing on the main road going towards the a12 from the station side of town for example) where even if it's green to cross I'll cautiously wait for any cars to stop completely, as I don't trust them that much.
I think they put them close to roundabouts because that is where (in theory, at least) motorists will be going slower. Either coming off the roundabout or slowing down in the approach. If they are put too far from the junction, people will try to cross anyway. Drivers have to accept that they are in a town, and not everything can be designed solely for them. I agree with you about crossings: I always try to make eye contact with the driver, and be sure that he really has stopped.

Pedestrians will sometimes try to dash across as the lights are changing, it's a fact of life. As a driver, you have to keep in mind that this could happen. It's all about being aware of more then just the road and the traffic light. The pedestrian will get hurt a lot more than the car, so just take half a second to be sure that the way is clear.
[quote][p][bold]wormshero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Assimilation[/bold] wrote: CBC seem to have a thing about roundabout's and crossings going together. There must be at least a dozen or more around. It`s a lot like water and electricity. Pour a glass of it into your fuse box. They do not go well with each other.[/p][/quote]I agree with Boris that anyone who can't handle it shouldn't be on the road, simple as that. However I do also question why so many roundabouts in Colchester have adjoining pedestrian crossings, as surely this does increase risk. Personally I find the one involved yesterday to be easy enough to watch both the traffic and the approaching lights due to their position, but there's some like at the end of St. Andrews avenue which link two roundabouts into an instant zebra crossing, which isn't so obvious. I much prefer using the crossing at the top of the hill to the underpass but there (and a few other places in Colchester-the crossing on the main road going towards the a12 from the station side of town for example) where even if it's green to cross I'll cautiously wait for any cars to stop completely, as I don't trust them that much.[/p][/quote]I think they put them close to roundabouts because that is where (in theory, at least) motorists will be going slower. Either coming off the roundabout or slowing down in the approach. If they are put too far from the junction, people will try to cross anyway. Drivers have to accept that they are in a town, and not everything can be designed solely for them. I agree with you about crossings: I always try to make eye contact with the driver, and be sure that he really has stopped. Pedestrians will sometimes try to dash across as the lights are changing, it's a fact of life. As a driver, you have to keep in mind that this could happen. It's all about being aware of more then just the road and the traffic light. The pedestrian will get hurt a lot more than the car, so just take half a second to be sure that the way is clear. romantic
  • Score: 3

10:18pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Madcowmac says...

Wishing them a speedy recovery, but How many times have drivers had to break suddenly when pedestrians run across these crossings quite a few,
Wishing them a speedy recovery, but How many times have drivers had to break suddenly when pedestrians run across these crossings quite a few, Madcowmac
  • Score: 1

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