"Gateway into Colchester town centre" set to go on market

Essex County Standard: "Gateway into Colchester town centre" set to go on market "Gateway into Colchester town centre" set to go on market

A GATEWAY into Colchester town centre is to get an overdue facelift.

Colchester Council is preparing to market land it owns on Magdalen Street, near Colchester town station, this spring.

Officers have prepared a draft “development brief” setting out how 1.4 hectares of land, much of it council-owned and now redundant, should be regenerated.

Theresa Higgins, councillor for New Town, said the area’s shabby appearance, which includes a former bus depot, needed a facelift.

For the full story, see Tuesday's Gazette

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5:17pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Bert_Stimpson says...

More flats?
More flats? Bert_Stimpson
  • Score: 6

5:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

romantic says...

We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!" romantic
  • Score: 7

5:25pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Nevtyler says...

Gateway????
Gateway???? Nevtyler
  • Score: 16

5:51pm Mon 27 Jan 14

wearebeingwatched says...

romantic wrote:
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
CBC have owned it for years and years. It used to be the garages for the CBT buses before the buses moved in private ownership. They did not go out and randomly buy it, any hows there is no harm in councils owning portfolios of land and/or buildings if managed and used correctly.

They really should be looking to use this land to build some affordable social housing, be this through a non for profit social housing association or self funded and then rented. We badly need non for profit social housing.
[quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"[/p][/quote]CBC have owned it for years and years. It used to be the garages for the CBT buses before the buses moved in private ownership. They did not go out and randomly buy it, any hows there is no harm in councils owning portfolios of land and/or buildings if managed and used correctly. They really should be looking to use this land to build some affordable social housing, be this through a non for profit social housing association or self funded and then rented. We badly need non for profit social housing. wearebeingwatched
  • Score: 5

6:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Ontheball says...

Long overdue for a revamp.
Long overdue for a revamp. Ontheball
  • Score: 7

7:26pm Mon 27 Jan 14

angryman!!! says...

Why should cheap social housing be so close to town that it would be out of price for most people that are earning a decent wage?
Why should cheap social housing be so close to town that it would be out of price for most people that are earning a decent wage? angryman!!!
  • Score: 22

9:33pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Boris says...

angryman!!! wrote:
Why should cheap social housing be so close to town that it would be out of price for most people that are earning a decent wage?
Why should richer people have all the best places?
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And we desperately need social housing, so why not build it on council-owned land?
[quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: Why should cheap social housing be so close to town that it would be out of price for most people that are earning a decent wage?[/p][/quote]Why should richer people have all the best places? . And we desperately need social housing, so why not build it on council-owned land? Boris
  • Score: -11

9:37pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Boris says...

wearebeingwatched wrote:
romantic wrote:
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
CBC have owned it for years and years. It used to be the garages for the CBT buses before the buses moved in private ownership. They did not go out and randomly buy it, any hows there is no harm in councils owning portfolios of land and/or buildings if managed and used correctly.

They really should be looking to use this land to build some affordable social housing, be this through a non for profit social housing association or self funded and then rented. We badly need non for profit social housing.
It must have been in CBC ownership since 1904 or earlier. Before becoming the bus depot, it was the tram depot (1904 to 1929). Tram tracks are still visible in the floor.
[quote][p][bold]wearebeingwatched[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"[/p][/quote]CBC have owned it for years and years. It used to be the garages for the CBT buses before the buses moved in private ownership. They did not go out and randomly buy it, any hows there is no harm in councils owning portfolios of land and/or buildings if managed and used correctly. They really should be looking to use this land to build some affordable social housing, be this through a non for profit social housing association or self funded and then rented. We badly need non for profit social housing.[/p][/quote]It must have been in CBC ownership since 1904 or earlier. Before becoming the bus depot, it was the tram depot (1904 to 1929). Tram tracks are still visible in the floor. Boris
  • Score: 9

11:10pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Hamiltonandy says...

As stated above there is a shortage of social housing and Colchester Council does have responsibility to provide it. So why should they not make use of public land not needed for retail outlets?
Is there an alternative that would be better? I could only think of moving the Firstsite group there to use the building as is for their contemporary art. Then a commercially viable use could be made of the old bus station. Perhaps a new public transport interchange with shops above.
As stated above there is a shortage of social housing and Colchester Council does have responsibility to provide it. So why should they not make use of public land not needed for retail outlets? Is there an alternative that would be better? I could only think of moving the Firstsite group there to use the building as is for their contemporary art. Then a commercially viable use could be made of the old bus station. Perhaps a new public transport interchange with shops above. Hamiltonandy
  • Score: -2

8:47am Tue 28 Jan 14

romantic says...

Boris wrote:
wearebeingwatched wrote:
romantic wrote:
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
CBC have owned it for years and years. It used to be the garages for the CBT buses before the buses moved in private ownership. They did not go out and randomly buy it, any hows there is no harm in councils owning portfolios of land and/or buildings if managed and used correctly.

They really should be looking to use this land to build some affordable social housing, be this through a non for profit social housing association or self funded and then rented. We badly need non for profit social housing.
It must have been in CBC ownership since 1904 or earlier. Before becoming the bus depot, it was the tram depot (1904 to 1929). Tram tracks are still visible in the floor.
I stand corrected! I also agree that affordable housing is required. Somehow, between the 1970s, when I grew up in a big council estate, and now, the term "social housing" seems to have taken on some sort of stigma, It the lack of affordable council housing has led to the large numbers of people who stand little chance of owning their own place, perhaps ever. This pushes people into expensive rented property - and ironically, it is the sort of houses which would be first-time buyers' normal range which get snapped up by the buy-to-letters. Buying a house should not be the be-all and end-all, but when the alternative is high rents for the rest of your life, it is easy to see why it becomes so desired.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wearebeingwatched[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"[/p][/quote]CBC have owned it for years and years. It used to be the garages for the CBT buses before the buses moved in private ownership. They did not go out and randomly buy it, any hows there is no harm in councils owning portfolios of land and/or buildings if managed and used correctly. They really should be looking to use this land to build some affordable social housing, be this through a non for profit social housing association or self funded and then rented. We badly need non for profit social housing.[/p][/quote]It must have been in CBC ownership since 1904 or earlier. Before becoming the bus depot, it was the tram depot (1904 to 1929). Tram tracks are still visible in the floor.[/p][/quote]I stand corrected! I also agree that affordable housing is required. Somehow, between the 1970s, when I grew up in a big council estate, and now, the term "social housing" seems to have taken on some sort of stigma, It the lack of affordable council housing has led to the large numbers of people who stand little chance of owning their own place, perhaps ever. This pushes people into expensive rented property - and ironically, it is the sort of houses which would be first-time buyers' normal range which get snapped up by the buy-to-letters. Buying a house should not be the be-all and end-all, but when the alternative is high rents for the rest of your life, it is easy to see why it becomes so desired. romantic
  • Score: 5

10:00am Tue 28 Jan 14

catflap1 says...

why do we have yet another photo of that ridiculous self publicising councillor who does absolutely nothing in this story -
why do we have yet another photo of that ridiculous self publicising councillor who does absolutely nothing in this story - catflap1
  • Score: 11

12:18pm Tue 28 Jan 14

stevedawson says...

We havent got a socialist gov or council or county council.l wouldnt hold your breath for any benifits to our town from this sale.most probably be a morrisons.
We havent got a socialist gov or council or county council.l wouldnt hold your breath for any benifits to our town from this sale.most probably be a morrisons. stevedawson
  • Score: 0

1:09pm Tue 28 Jan 14

julieee says...

CBC are so busy selling things off that they don't appear to be thinking long term. yes this sale will ease the current crisis but it also reduces the balance sheet long term. What what will they do when there's nothing else to sell?
CBC are so busy selling things off that they don't appear to be thinking long term. yes this sale will ease the current crisis but it also reduces the balance sheet long term. What what will they do when there's nothing else to sell? julieee
  • Score: 1

1:11pm Tue 28 Jan 14

totallyfootball says...

catflap1 wrote:
why do we have yet another photo of that ridiculous self publicising councillor who does absolutely nothing in this story -
We are lucky its not Useless Bob backing it, but give it time? Anything for a cheap photo call and a bandwagon going free!
[quote][p][bold]catflap1[/bold] wrote: why do we have yet another photo of that ridiculous self publicising councillor who does absolutely nothing in this story -[/p][/quote]We are lucky its not Useless Bob backing it, but give it time? Anything for a cheap photo call and a bandwagon going free! totallyfootball
  • Score: 3

3:02pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Reginald47 says...

romantic wrote:
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
CBC has always owned it. It was The Borough Transport bus garage.
[quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"[/p][/quote]CBC has always owned it. It was The Borough Transport bus garage. Reginald47
  • Score: -1

3:08pm Tue 28 Jan 14

omgwtfbbq says...

Could put a bus station here with flats above it........
Could put a bus station here with flats above it........ omgwtfbbq
  • Score: -2

3:09pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Reginald47 says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
As stated above there is a shortage of social housing and Colchester Council does have responsibility to provide it. So why should they not make use of public land not needed for retail outlets? Is there an alternative that would be better? I could only think of moving the Firstsite group there to use the building as is for their contemporary art. Then a commercially viable use could be made of the old bus station. Perhaps a new public transport interchange with shops above.
And I thought it was now a school playing field - as always planned,
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: As stated above there is a shortage of social housing and Colchester Council does have responsibility to provide it. So why should they not make use of public land not needed for retail outlets? Is there an alternative that would be better? I could only think of moving the Firstsite group there to use the building as is for their contemporary art. Then a commercially viable use could be made of the old bus station. Perhaps a new public transport interchange with shops above.[/p][/quote]And I thought it was now a school playing field - as always planned, Reginald47
  • Score: -2

4:31pm Tue 28 Jan 14

AngryManNewTown says...

catflap1 wrote:
why do we have yet another photo of that ridiculous self publicising councillor who does absolutely nothing in this story -
Too true, does not do much for New Town apart from keeping the photographers in work!!!!
[quote][p][bold]catflap1[/bold] wrote: why do we have yet another photo of that ridiculous self publicising councillor who does absolutely nothing in this story -[/p][/quote]Too true, does not do much for New Town apart from keeping the photographers in work!!!! AngryManNewTown
  • Score: 3

9:28pm Tue 28 Jan 14

HARRY438 says...

Lidle.
Lidle. HARRY438
  • Score: 0

11:55pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Boris says...

Reginald47 wrote:
romantic wrote:
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
CBC has always owned it. It was The Borough Transport bus garage.
Your history is incomplete, Reginald. Go back to the beginning.
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"[/p][/quote]CBC has always owned it. It was The Borough Transport bus garage.[/p][/quote]Your history is incomplete, Reginald. Go back to the beginning. Boris
  • Score: 3

11:33am Wed 29 Jan 14

MitchMann says...

Boris wrote:
angryman!!! wrote:
Why should cheap social housing be so close to town that it would be out of price for most people that are earning a decent wage?
Why should richer people have all the best places?
.
And we desperately need social housing, so why not build it on council-owned land?
'Richer' people should have more choices because they're the hard-working ones that fund all social development through their taxes.

People in need of social housing should be grateful they can get it, not whinge about where it is.
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angryman!!![/bold] wrote: Why should cheap social housing be so close to town that it would be out of price for most people that are earning a decent wage?[/p][/quote]Why should richer people have all the best places? . And we desperately need social housing, so why not build it on council-owned land?[/p][/quote]'Richer' people should have more choices because they're the hard-working ones that fund all social development through their taxes. People in need of social housing should be grateful they can get it, not whinge about where it is. MitchMann
  • Score: 5

6:05pm Wed 29 Jan 14

angryman!!! says...

Agree with the above. I have a modest income and live in a semi in a very average part of Colchester, I'd love to live near a station and be close to town but I can afford it, so why does someone that may not work at all or not as much as me and spent 5 years saving a deposit get to live where I can't.
Agree with the above. I have a modest income and live in a semi in a very average part of Colchester, I'd love to live near a station and be close to town but I can afford it, so why does someone that may not work at all or not as much as me and spent 5 years saving a deposit get to live where I can't. angryman!!!
  • Score: 4

7:21pm Fri 31 Jan 14

asithappens says...

While i agree the old bus depot is a eyesore & developing this site would be a good idea, the council is also putting forward plans to develop land oppsite starting from the YMCA to the courthouse, i understand that most of this land is privately owned and also is used by several business employing a number of people, i hope the council is intending to compensate these people and wonder where they intend to get the money from being that they are so skint they can't even repair the potholes!
While i agree the old bus depot is a eyesore & developing this site would be a good idea, the council is also putting forward plans to develop land oppsite starting from the YMCA to the courthouse, i understand that most of this land is privately owned and also is used by several business employing a number of people, i hope the council is intending to compensate these people and wonder where they intend to get the money from being that they are so skint they can't even repair the potholes! asithappens
  • Score: 1

2:54pm Thu 13 Feb 14

catflap1 says...

Boris wrote:
Reginald47 wrote:
romantic wrote:
We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"
CBC has always owned it. It was The Borough Transport bus garage.
Your history is incomplete, Reginald. Go back to the beginning.
it was the tram shed before that
[quote][p][bold]Boris[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romantic[/bold] wrote: We own this as well? CBC seems attracted to buying buildings which nobody else wants. If I owned a derelict, falling down rust shed, I would be inclined just to hang onto it until CBC say "We'll buy it!"[/p][/quote]CBC has always owned it. It was The Borough Transport bus garage.[/p][/quote]Your history is incomplete, Reginald. Go back to the beginning.[/p][/quote]it was the tram shed before that catflap1
  • Score: 0

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