Spy car to hit the streets on Monday

Essex County Standard: Spy car to hit the streets on Monday Spy car to hit the streets on Monday

The controversial “spy car” will begin patrolling on Monday and could be at a school near you.

The Ford Fiesta, which is fitted with CCTV, will be targeting at least four schools each day to tackle drivers who park dangerously in no stopping zones, on pedestrian crossings and zig zag markings.

After four months delay it was launched at the Broomgrove Infant and Junior Schools in Wivenhoe on Friday afternoon with the help of both the school councils.

The North Essex Parking Partnership (NEPP) said the one year trial was launched in response to requests from parents, schools, residents and local councils for parking enforcement.

Headteacher Lehla Abbott, hopes the car will be a prevention, and said: “There is very little a school can do about parking other put notices in the newsletter for parents to be considerate so this was a really good opportunity to get involved.

“In the afternoon if you have been out and come back at 2.50pm or 2.55pm it is mayhem out here with people parked on curbs, on the zig zags, it is quite worrying, and the children are merrily skipping along going home, it is just worrying, especially as there as so many bends.”

 

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1:19pm Sat 25 Jan 14

500000000000 says...

About time to
About time to 500000000000

1:50pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Reginald47 says...

Why does the Gazette always have to use inflammatory language? If this car stops a child being run over outside a school it will be more than worth it. Presumably the Gazette's not bothered about children being maimed or killed by dangerous parking outside schools only about being spied on - something newspapers are quite good at too.
Why does the Gazette always have to use inflammatory language? If this car stops a child being run over outside a school it will be more than worth it. Presumably the Gazette's not bothered about children being maimed or killed by dangerous parking outside schools only about being spied on - something newspapers are quite good at too. Reginald47

2:50pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Say It As It Is OK? says...

No problem outside Schools but it won't pay its way if used for this purpose alone. The real purpose of this vehicle is to generate an income for NEPP and the councils that have signed up.

So don't be surprised if this 'spy' car is used, as other councils already do, to spy and photograph motorists committing even minor parking misdomeniors such as stopping on yellow lines, just to let a passenger get out.
No problem outside Schools but it won't pay its way if used for this purpose alone. The real purpose of this vehicle is to generate an income for NEPP and the councils that have signed up. So don't be surprised if this 'spy' car is used, as other councils already do, to spy and photograph motorists committing even minor parking misdomeniors such as stopping on yellow lines, just to let a passenger get out. Say It As It Is OK?

4:42pm Sat 25 Jan 14

HARRY438 says...

So many kids in such a small car.....
So many kids in such a small car..... HARRY438

5:55pm Sat 25 Jan 14

co2 says...

great news,im fed up with local congestion caused by lazy parents driving a few hundred yards in some cases to take children to school,issue a few tickets and we will start seeing less congestion,some of these parents use any common sense when parking.
great news,im fed up with local congestion caused by lazy parents driving a few hundred yards in some cases to take children to school,issue a few tickets and we will start seeing less congestion,some of these parents use any common sense when parking. co2

8:21pm Sat 25 Jan 14

A Very Private Gentleman says...

In between the school runs this car is going to be issuing out tickets left right and centre in the 1,000's.
This I totally disagree with and is worse than the high street bus land issues.
A disgraceful big brother act, and this Parking Partnership out fit backed up by Essex Police and the Essex County Council needs to be disbanded.
The money it has wasted in a cynical show and strength of force against motorists has been a shambolic indictment of Big Brother Robo-cop in full force.
There where other ways to Police the issues outside schools and not by using these Fly By Photographic Reconnaissance shoot them with picture missions cars.
I now fell very sorry for the motorist in this town it has jumped on the bandwagon of what other counties are doing merely to stuff our money in their pockets.
The witch hunt by ECC and Bass will return, in the face and form of these cars all over the shop.
What can we all do about it collectively is the question? And who has the answers will be an interesting one, I certainly don't!
In between the school runs this car is going to be issuing out tickets left right and centre in the 1,000's. This I totally disagree with and is worse than the high street bus land issues. A disgraceful big brother act, and this Parking Partnership out fit backed up by Essex Police and the Essex County Council needs to be disbanded. The money it has wasted in a cynical show and strength of force against motorists has been a shambolic indictment of Big Brother Robo-cop in full force. There where other ways to Police the issues outside schools and not by using these Fly By Photographic Reconnaissance shoot them with picture missions cars. I now fell very sorry for the motorist in this town it has jumped on the bandwagon of what other counties are doing merely to stuff our money in their pockets. The witch hunt by ECC and Bass will return, in the face and form of these cars all over the shop. What can we all do about it collectively is the question? And who has the answers will be an interesting one, I certainly don't! A Very Private Gentleman

8:23am Sun 26 Jan 14

jut1972 says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
In between the school runs this car is going to be issuing out tickets left right and centre in the 1,000's.
This I totally disagree with and is worse than the high street bus land issues.
A disgraceful big brother act, and this Parking Partnership out fit backed up by Essex Police and the Essex County Council needs to be disbanded.
The money it has wasted in a cynical show and strength of force against motorists has been a shambolic indictment of Big Brother Robo-cop in full force.
There where other ways to Police the issues outside schools and not by using these Fly By Photographic Reconnaissance shoot them with picture missions cars.
I now fell very sorry for the motorist in this town it has jumped on the bandwagon of what other counties are doing merely to stuff our money in their pockets.
The witch hunt by ECC and Bass will return, in the face and form of these cars all over the shop.
What can we all do about it collectively is the question? And who has the answers will be an interesting one, I certainly don't!
Drive within the law and you'll be fine.
or is that too simplistic for you?
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: In between the school runs this car is going to be issuing out tickets left right and centre in the 1,000's. This I totally disagree with and is worse than the high street bus land issues. A disgraceful big brother act, and this Parking Partnership out fit backed up by Essex Police and the Essex County Council needs to be disbanded. The money it has wasted in a cynical show and strength of force against motorists has been a shambolic indictment of Big Brother Robo-cop in full force. There where other ways to Police the issues outside schools and not by using these Fly By Photographic Reconnaissance shoot them with picture missions cars. I now fell very sorry for the motorist in this town it has jumped on the bandwagon of what other counties are doing merely to stuff our money in their pockets. The witch hunt by ECC and Bass will return, in the face and form of these cars all over the shop. What can we all do about it collectively is the question? And who has the answers will be an interesting one, I certainly don't![/p][/quote]Drive within the law and you'll be fine. or is that too simplistic for you? jut1972

8:27am Sun 26 Jan 14

jut1972 says...

Can you come to Myland school please? There are plenty of idiot parents there putting other kids in danger. Hopefully a few tickets will do the trick.
Can you come to Myland school please? There are plenty of idiot parents there putting other kids in danger. Hopefully a few tickets will do the trick. jut1972

12:09pm Sun 26 Jan 14

EssexRocks1981 says...

A Very Private Gentleman wrote:
In between the school runs this car is going to be issuing out tickets left right and centre in the 1,000's.
This I totally disagree with and is worse than the high street bus land issues.
A disgraceful big brother act, and this Parking Partnership out fit backed up by Essex Police and the Essex County Council needs to be disbanded.
The money it has wasted in a cynical show and strength of force against motorists has been a shambolic indictment of Big Brother Robo-cop in full force.
There where other ways to Police the issues outside schools and not by using these Fly By Photographic Reconnaissance shoot them with picture missions cars.
I now fell very sorry for the motorist in this town it has jumped on the bandwagon of what other counties are doing merely to stuff our money in their pockets.
The witch hunt by ECC and Bass will return, in the face and form of these cars all over the shop.
What can we all do about it collectively is the question? And who has the answers will be an interesting one, I certainly don't!
The only tickets that will be issued will be to cars parked on No Stopping restrictions eg. Zig Zags, Bus Stops, Taxi Ranks and Loading Bans. The only people who should really be worried about this are people who stop in these idiotic places. I do agree with you on the bus lane situation though.
[quote][p][bold]A Very Private Gentleman[/bold] wrote: In between the school runs this car is going to be issuing out tickets left right and centre in the 1,000's. This I totally disagree with and is worse than the high street bus land issues. A disgraceful big brother act, and this Parking Partnership out fit backed up by Essex Police and the Essex County Council needs to be disbanded. The money it has wasted in a cynical show and strength of force against motorists has been a shambolic indictment of Big Brother Robo-cop in full force. There where other ways to Police the issues outside schools and not by using these Fly By Photographic Reconnaissance shoot them with picture missions cars. I now fell very sorry for the motorist in this town it has jumped on the bandwagon of what other counties are doing merely to stuff our money in their pockets. The witch hunt by ECC and Bass will return, in the face and form of these cars all over the shop. What can we all do about it collectively is the question? And who has the answers will be an interesting one, I certainly don't![/p][/quote]The only tickets that will be issued will be to cars parked on No Stopping restrictions eg. Zig Zags, Bus Stops, Taxi Ranks and Loading Bans. The only people who should really be worried about this are people who stop in these idiotic places. I do agree with you on the bus lane situation though. EssexRocks1981

2:12pm Sun 26 Jan 14

Ontheball says...

Thought the government were going to ban the use of these things!
Thought the government were going to ban the use of these things! Ontheball

7:26am Mon 27 Jan 14

stewycaz says...

I see parents stopping to drop their kids off right outside Myland School on the zigzags, I can't for the life of me understand why they can't park 15 metres back from the lines and park the car!
I see parents stopping to drop their kids off right outside Myland School on the zigzags, I can't for the life of me understand why they can't park 15 metres back from the lines and park the car! stewycaz

8:00am Mon 27 Jan 14

RB, Lexden says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Why does the Gazette always have to use inflammatory language? If this car stops a child being run over outside a school it will be more than worth it. Presumably the Gazette's not bothered about children being maimed or killed by dangerous parking outside schools only about being spied on - something newspapers are quite good at too.
Council spy cars rake in £8 million a year in fines.
Spy cars have earned town halls more than £8 million in fines in the
past 12 months,it has emerged.Research by Big Brother Watch,a
civil liberties campaign group,has revealed that nearly 190,000
drivers have been hit with penalty charge notices for parking and minor
motoring infringements after being caught on camera.The drive-by spies
are currently used by 31 local authorities across the country and more
councils are expected to follow.Costing just over £40,000 each,the fifty
four Smart Cars equipped with CCTV cameras earned an average of
£187,668 per vehicle.
Source : Daily Telegraph,July 8,2010
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: Why does the Gazette always have to use inflammatory language? If this car stops a child being run over outside a school it will be more than worth it. Presumably the Gazette's not bothered about children being maimed or killed by dangerous parking outside schools only about being spied on - something newspapers are quite good at too.[/p][/quote]Council spy cars rake in £8 million a year in fines. Spy cars have earned town halls more than £8 million in fines in the past 12 months,it has emerged.Research by Big Brother Watch,a civil liberties campaign group,has revealed that nearly 190,000 drivers have been hit with penalty charge notices for parking and minor motoring infringements after being caught on camera.The drive-by spies are currently used by 31 local authorities across the country and more councils are expected to follow.Costing just over £40,000 each,the fifty four Smart Cars equipped with CCTV cameras earned an average of £187,668 per vehicle. Source : Daily Telegraph,July 8,2010 RB, Lexden

11:49am Mon 27 Jan 14

Reginald47 says...

Just goes to show how big the problem of drivers breaking the law is. Excellent evdence as to why more of these cars are needed.
Just goes to show how big the problem of drivers breaking the law is. Excellent evdence as to why more of these cars are needed. Reginald47

12:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

RB, Lexden says...

Reginald47 wrote:
Why does the Gazette always have to use inflammatory language? If this car stops a child being run over outside a school it will be more than worth it. Presumably the Gazette's not bothered about children being maimed or killed by dangerous parking outside schools only about being spied on - something newspapers are quite good at too.
Councils are breaking the law by using CCTV and spy cars to raise
millions of pounds from parking fines,Communities Secretary
Eric Pickles said today.
The Cabinet Minister accused some town halls of being so obsessed
with using the cameras to fill their coffers that they ignore other
parking infringements which cause road dangers.
Mr Pickles launched his attack as he moved to ban fines being issued
after motorists are caught on a CCTV camera or by a spy car on a yellow
line,with wheels on the pavement or committing another parking offence.
"We are worried that what is happening in local authorities is they
are using parking fines as a kind of cash cow from motorists.The
legislation is very clear: you cannot do so."
He also gave short shrift to councils who claim the cameras were
only being used for used road safety or to ensure traffic flows.
"It's kind of the easy answer to say ' it's all to protect the children' "
said Mr Pickles "But local authorities are running seminars about
maximising their income on parking fines."
Source : London Evening Standard,September 27,2013
[quote][p][bold]Reginald47[/bold] wrote: Why does the Gazette always have to use inflammatory language? If this car stops a child being run over outside a school it will be more than worth it. Presumably the Gazette's not bothered about children being maimed or killed by dangerous parking outside schools only about being spied on - something newspapers are quite good at too.[/p][/quote]Councils are breaking the law by using CCTV and spy cars to raise millions of pounds from parking fines,Communities Secretary Eric Pickles said today. The Cabinet Minister accused some town halls of being so obsessed with using the cameras to fill their coffers that they ignore other parking infringements which cause road dangers. Mr Pickles launched his attack as he moved to ban fines being issued after motorists are caught on a CCTV camera or by a spy car on a yellow line,with wheels on the pavement or committing another parking offence. "We are worried that what is happening in local authorities is they are using parking fines as a kind of cash cow from motorists.The legislation is very clear: you cannot do so." He also gave short shrift to councils who claim the cameras were only being used for used road safety or to ensure traffic flows. "It's kind of the easy answer to say ' it's all to protect the children' " said Mr Pickles "But local authorities are running seminars about maximising their income on parking fines." Source : London Evening Standard,September 27,2013 RB, Lexden

5:03pm Mon 27 Jan 14

EengDem says...

The big issue is the fact that these cars are not owned by the Council, but by a private company. It has already been proven in Court that a 3rd party (in this case, Capita) cannot act on behalf of a landowner (in this case, the Councils involved with NEPP) in entering into a contract to use the land. Thus, any ticket issued by this car will be overturned in Court.

Southend Council found this out when they engaged another bunch of parking scammers by the name of APCOA to run a CCTV car for them. One aggrieved motorist took the Council to Court and the Judge ruled that the car's operators had no authority to act on behalf of the Council in the issuing parking tickets. Southend Council ended-up refunding all the tickets they had issued & cancelling the contract with APCOA.

Richmond Borough Council followed suite shortly afterwards.
The fact that EVERY ticket ever issued by one of these vehicles has had to be refunded speaks volumes for the validity of these cars.

I wish the Council luck, but will just say I have no doubt the Tax payer will end up footing the bill for this.

Also, it is Capita running the car and they don't exactly have the best reputation for doing the job right.
The big issue is the fact that these cars are not owned by the Council, but by a private company. It has already been proven in Court that a 3rd party (in this case, Capita) cannot act on behalf of a landowner (in this case, the Councils involved with NEPP) in entering into a contract to use the land. Thus, any ticket issued by this car will be overturned in Court. Southend Council found this out when they engaged another bunch of parking scammers by the name of APCOA to run a CCTV car for them. One aggrieved motorist took the Council to Court and the Judge ruled that the car's operators had no authority to act on behalf of the Council in the issuing parking tickets. Southend Council ended-up refunding all the tickets they had issued & cancelling the contract with APCOA. Richmond Borough Council followed suite shortly afterwards. The fact that EVERY ticket ever issued by one of these vehicles has had to be refunded speaks volumes for the validity of these cars. I wish the Council luck, but will just say I have no doubt the Tax payer will end up footing the bill for this. Also, it is Capita running the car and they don't exactly have the best reputation for doing the job right. EengDem

1:14pm Tue 28 Jan 14

stevedawson says...

The thinking behind these lines is absolute rubbish.parked cars have never knocked anyone over, however, a fast moving car often does.speed limits in estates should be 20 mph with speed humps in the vicinity of schools for those of us who just cant tow the line.
The thinking behind these lines is absolute rubbish.parked cars have never knocked anyone over, however, a fast moving car often does.speed limits in estates should be 20 mph with speed humps in the vicinity of schools for those of us who just cant tow the line. stevedawson

10:31pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Harry.Brown says...

stevedawson wrote:
The thinking behind these lines is absolute rubbish.parked cars have never knocked anyone over, however, a fast moving car often does.speed limits in estates should be 20 mph with speed humps in the vicinity of schools for those of us who just cant tow the line.
did i get that right 40k for a smart or do i need glasses...
a smart car on a deal is about 6k a bloke with a camera is about £100
what a load of twaddle.
[quote][p][bold]stevedawson[/bold] wrote: The thinking behind these lines is absolute rubbish.parked cars have never knocked anyone over, however, a fast moving car often does.speed limits in estates should be 20 mph with speed humps in the vicinity of schools for those of us who just cant tow the line.[/p][/quote]did i get that right 40k for a smart or do i need glasses... a smart car on a deal is about 6k a bloke with a camera is about £100 what a load of twaddle. Harry.Brown

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