MP reports "clock in peer" Lord Hanningfield to cops

Essex County Standard: MP reports "clock in peer" Lord Hanningfield to cops MP reports "clock in peer" Lord Hanningfield to cops

AN MP has reported Lord Hanningfield to the police over claims that he took £300 daily allowances for work in Parliament while only spending brief periods in the House of Lords chamber.

On 11 of 19 days a national newspaper monitored his movements in July, the former Essex County Council leader spent less than 40 minutes in the Lords after "clocking in" with an official in the chamber before returning home.

The shortest attendance during the month was 21 minutes and the longest more than five hours, with £5,700 claimed in attendance allowance and £471 in travel costs, the newspaper said.

Labour MP John Mann said he was reporting the former Tory peer to the Metropolitan Police for investigation under the 1968 Theft Act.

Mr Mann said: "Lords can claim either by the half-day or the day.

"If what has been reported is accurate, he has been doing much less than half-days but claiming for a day.

"If it is true that he has been claiming in the way that has been reported, then it is right and proper that there should be a police investigation into this. The taxpayer would expect no less."

Lord Hanningfield, jailed in 2011 for abuse of expenses, said the requirement to appear in the chamber is "only a mechanism for paying you" and that failing to speak or vote should not be a bar to receiving the expenses cash.

Most of the money went on "entertaining, meeting people, employing people", he said, claiming that he would "end up with £12,000 a year" for himself which he needs to eat and "pay my electricity bills".

He claimed that half the members of the House were doing the same and that he could name at least 50 peers who did likewise.

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9:35am Wed 18 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Pot Kettle!
They are all as bad as each other!
Pot Kettle! They are all as bad as each other! Say It As It Is OK?

9:37am Wed 18 Dec 13

Route88 says...

This man has lost all credibility, has nothing to offer and should quickly and quietly disappear from public life. His frequently talks of his 'public service' unfortunately it turned into self-service!
This man has lost all credibility, has nothing to offer and should quickly and quietly disappear from public life. His frequently talks of his 'public service' unfortunately it turned into self-service! Route88

10:05am Wed 18 Dec 13

Minceir. says...

I have read that 'piggy' Paul has described the latest fuss as "A storm in a tea cup". This illustrates clearly his utter contempt for the British people and his total unsuitability to sit in the House of Lords.

Lord Hanningfield, go now and do everyone (possibly even yourself) a favour. What a shame they don't have lessons in humility in prison- I suppose if they did you'd simply clock in and out because you would consider yourself above the need to attend.
I have read that 'piggy' Paul has described the latest fuss as "A storm in a tea cup". This illustrates clearly his utter contempt for the British people and his total unsuitability to sit in the House of Lords. Lord Hanningfield, go now and do everyone (possibly even yourself) a favour. What a shame they don't have lessons in humility in prison- I suppose if they did you'd simply clock in and out because you would consider yourself above the need to attend. Minceir.

10:08am Wed 18 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

He said on TV last night that he has given years of his time to the public for free. Is that correct?
He said on TV last night that he has given years of his time to the public for free. Is that correct? Ritchie_Hicks

10:20am Wed 18 Dec 13

Arthur Fonzarelli says...

I like the way he grassed every other Lord up for doing the same thing.
I like the way he grassed every other Lord up for doing the same thing. Arthur Fonzarelli

10:41am Wed 18 Dec 13

Dissappointed says...

All politicians are the same, in it for themselves. Power corrupts ultimately.
All politicians are the same, in it for themselves. Power corrupts ultimately. Dissappointed

11:00am Wed 18 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

Route88 wrote:
This man has lost all credibility, has nothing to offer and should quickly and quietly disappear from public life. His frequently talks of his 'public service' unfortunately it turned into self-service!
Spot on Criminal record, gaoled for fiddling expenses this man should be banned from holding public office . At it again exploiting a loophole and he votes on our laws!! Unacceptable.
[quote][p][bold]Route88[/bold] wrote: This man has lost all credibility, has nothing to offer and should quickly and quietly disappear from public life. His frequently talks of his 'public service' unfortunately it turned into self-service![/p][/quote]Spot on Criminal record, gaoled for fiddling expenses this man should be banned from holding public office . At it again exploiting a loophole and he votes on our laws!! Unacceptable. John T Pharro

11:10am Wed 18 Dec 13

BrianOtridge says...

Once upon a time, a long time ago, no politician was paid any money, but that was in the days when only the wealthy ruling classes would fulfil such roles.

As democracy increased, we moved to paying for certain roles, such as MPs, recognizing that they should be a full-time commitment, and that some did not have massive financial resources behind them. Recently, Councillors have started to receive allowances, which, with special responsibility payments, start to look like salaries.

However, the House of Lords is a body where attendance is not normally mandatory. Most are senior politicians who have had careers in either politics and other disciplines, and should be financially secure with their pensions and other savings.

And now some are abusing the attendance money system, just as they do in the European Parliament. This should call into question whether such payments should even be made. If they cannot be trusted then perhaps they should "clock-in" and "clock-out" and be paid by the hour. Mind you, they would still get paid for sleeping on the back benches! And shouldn't we able to trust them not to abuse this system?

Our whole political system has become over-bloated and corrupt and needs a good shake-up.
Once upon a time, a long time ago, no politician was paid any money, but that was in the days when only the wealthy ruling classes would fulfil such roles. As democracy increased, we moved to paying for certain roles, such as MPs, recognizing that they should be a full-time commitment, and that some did not have massive financial resources behind them. Recently, Councillors have started to receive allowances, which, with special responsibility payments, start to look like salaries. However, the House of Lords is a body where attendance is not normally mandatory. Most are senior politicians who have had careers in either politics and other disciplines, and should be financially secure with their pensions and other savings. And now some are abusing the attendance money system, just as they do in the European Parliament. This should call into question whether such payments should even be made. If they cannot be trusted then perhaps they should "clock-in" and "clock-out" and be paid by the hour. Mind you, they would still get paid for sleeping on the back benches! And shouldn't we able to trust them not to abuse this system? Our whole political system has become over-bloated and corrupt and needs a good shake-up. BrianOtridge

11:40am Wed 18 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Watch this video of Paul White. The arrogance of the man has no bounds.


http://www.mirror.co
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Watch this video of Paul White. The arrogance of the man has no bounds. http://www.mirror.co .uk/news/uk-news/vid eo-ex-tory-lord-hann ingfield-exposed-293 4895 Say It As It Is OK?

11:52am Wed 18 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

A Labour MP reporting somebody for fiddling.

Most of the Labour I know are the biggest hypocrites going... like those who research for the anti trolling MP yet are the biggest trolls going.

2014 will be the year of the downfall of all hypocritical leftie scum.

Being apolitical means those of us who choose to be on the outside of party politics will be doing our best to take the lid of you and your nasty goings on.

You know who you are.
A Labour MP reporting somebody for fiddling. Most of the Labour I know are the biggest hypocrites going... like those who research for the anti trolling MP yet are the biggest trolls going. 2014 will be the year of the downfall of all hypocritical leftie scum. Being apolitical means those of us who choose to be on the outside of party politics will be doing our best to take the lid of you and your nasty goings on. You know who you are. Kim Gandy

11:54am Wed 18 Dec 13

Kim Gandy says...

.....and I don't give a **** which political party you belong to.

Thumbs downers go ahead. I don't care. A thumbs down to me, means I have rattled your cage. And I know it's Labour rent a mob doing it.

But you will pay in 2014. I can be very patient.

Oh and once again, I reiterate for those of you who are thick and stupid. I DO NOT return to read your nastiness.

What has been done to me will be repaid, in full.
.....and I don't give a **** which political party you belong to. Thumbs downers go ahead. I don't care. A thumbs down to me, means I have rattled your cage. And I know it's Labour rent a mob doing it. But you will pay in 2014. I can be very patient. Oh and once again, I reiterate for those of you who are thick and stupid. I DO NOT return to read your nastiness. What has been done to me will be repaid, in full. Kim Gandy

12:15pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Ian P says...

While it is wrong that these people abuse the system, the bigger issue here is the fact that the system can be abused in the first place.
While it is wrong that these people abuse the system, the bigger issue here is the fact that the system can be abused in the first place. Ian P

12:34pm Wed 18 Dec 13

co2 says...

This Lord is an insult to all the hard working taxpayers of essex whose hard earned money is being embezzled by him and others.
This Lord is an insult to all the hard working taxpayers of essex whose hard earned money is being embezzled by him and others. co2

12:53pm Wed 18 Dec 13

ShipShape says...

I read 'Clock in peer' and thought 'Oh No! That nasty Mr Saville hasn't been up to more deviousness has he?'

Thankfully, it was nothing more than a quaint story of how the gentry enjoys a quick trip into town and a bite to eat.

Gawd bless yer sir.
I read 'Clock in peer' and thought 'Oh No! That nasty Mr Saville hasn't been up to more deviousness has he?' Thankfully, it was nothing more than a quaint story of how the gentry enjoys a quick trip into town and a bite to eat. Gawd bless yer sir. ShipShape

1:21pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

Kim Gandy wrote:
.....and I don't give a **** which political party you belong to.

Thumbs downers go ahead. I don't care. A thumbs down to me, means I have rattled your cage. And I know it's Labour rent a mob doing it.

But you will pay in 2014. I can be very patient.

Oh and once again, I reiterate for those of you who are thick and stupid. I DO NOT return to read your nastiness.

What has been done to me will be repaid, in full.
Kim its Christmas, the time of good cheer...have a few sherry's and relax, time enough to fight your fight after the holidays...then hopefully there will be 'one lord a-leaping' onto the dole queue.
[quote][p][bold]Kim Gandy[/bold] wrote: .....and I don't give a **** which political party you belong to. Thumbs downers go ahead. I don't care. A thumbs down to me, means I have rattled your cage. And I know it's Labour rent a mob doing it. But you will pay in 2014. I can be very patient. Oh and once again, I reiterate for those of you who are thick and stupid. I DO NOT return to read your nastiness. What has been done to me will be repaid, in full.[/p][/quote]Kim its Christmas, the time of good cheer...have a few sherry's and relax, time enough to fight your fight after the holidays...then hopefully there will be 'one lord a-leaping' onto the dole queue. Lastlaugh,,.

4:23pm Wed 18 Dec 13

John T Pharro says...

And if he was on the dole you get bet your life he would claim everything going!!
And if he was on the dole you get bet your life he would claim everything going!! John T Pharro

4:32pm Wed 18 Dec 13

stevedawson says...

Name a system that works better than ours?
Name a system that works better than ours? stevedawson

10:47pm Wed 18 Dec 13

Lastlaugh,,. says...

stevedawson wrote:
Name a system that works better than ours?
For whom?
[quote][p][bold]stevedawson[/bold] wrote: Name a system that works better than ours?[/p][/quote]For whom? Lastlaugh,,.

6:35pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Discouraged says...

If I meet this parasite in the street should i call him Mr White , My Lord ,or can I just use his prison number?
If I meet this parasite in the street should i call him Mr White , My Lord ,or can I just use his prison number? Discouraged

2:36am Fri 20 Dec 13

Boris says...

Discouraged wrote:
If I meet this parasite in the street should i call him Mr White , My Lord ,or can I just use his prison number?
You are unlikely to meet him in the street. He goes everywhere by chauffeur-driven car, or taxi.
But if you do meet him, just call him Lord Fraud.
[quote][p][bold]Discouraged[/bold] wrote: If I meet this parasite in the street should i call him Mr White , My Lord ,or can I just use his prison number?[/p][/quote]You are unlikely to meet him in the street. He goes everywhere by chauffeur-driven car, or taxi. But if you do meet him, just call him Lord Fraud. Boris

2:49pm Fri 20 Dec 13

mechanic7 says...

The arrogance of this man is unbelievable but while no one in the ruling parties have the ba**s to ban criminals from The House of Lords he will continue to claim that he has done nothing wrong and keep claiming the money.
The arrogance of this man is unbelievable but while no one in the ruling parties have the ba**s to ban criminals from The House of Lords he will continue to claim that he has done nothing wrong and keep claiming the money. mechanic7

9:21pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Jon-Vencato says...

I do not understand the argument here, the rules are in situ.

Mr White has followed them.

The rhetoric and gasp from the posters here fairly or not are exclamating a travesty based on Mr White's previous history, of which he has served his impingement on personal his life.

One agrees with all the arguments and bitter vitriol for and against.

However a lot of us appear to be forgetting?

1 Its Christmas

2. He brought £MIllions in business deals to this county.

The House of Lords is a magnificent institution and body, and long may it continue.

Let us all respect this body and be proud of its worth to us.

On many occasions it has saved the minnows in society like me and I thank them wholeheartedly for that.
I do not understand the argument here, the rules are in situ. Mr White has followed them. The rhetoric and gasp from the posters here fairly or not are exclamating a travesty based on Mr White's previous history, of which he has served his impingement on personal his life. One agrees with all the arguments and bitter vitriol for and against. However a lot of us appear to be forgetting? 1 Its Christmas 2. He brought £MIllions in business deals to this county. The House of Lords is a magnificent institution and body, and long may it continue. Let us all respect this body and be proud of its worth to us. On many occasions it has saved the minnows in society like me and I thank them wholeheartedly for that. Jon-Vencato

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