Tidal surge: 'We were never worried, that's why we stayed in Jaywick'

Essex County Standard: TIDAL SURGE: 'We were never worried, that's why we stayed in Jaywick' TIDAL SURGE: 'We were never worried, that's why we stayed in Jaywick'

RESIDENTS who braved what was predicted to be the biggest tidal surge in 60 years said they were never worried about being flooded.

Dozens of people kept watch over the sea level until the early hours of this morning.

Some were also looking after older people who had refused to evacuate their homes, off Brooklands.

One man, who was returning to the sea wall from his home every 20 minutes to check the water’s progress between 11pm on Thursday and 2am on Friday, said: “This is definitely as high as I have seen it.

“I packed the wife and kids off to the in-laws but I wanted to stay here with the dog.

“I couldn’t let him stay here alone and if he got out with the other dogs, I don’t know what would happen.

“There are a few older people in the road who are just set in their ways and don’t want to move, so I’ve been reporting back to them as well.

He added: “I never believed it would come over and for once, I was right.”

He added: “People forget these sea walls weren’t like they are now back in 1953.

“We’ve been prepared for something like this, that’s what the millions of pounds have been spent for.”

Davey Johnson, who also lives off Brooklands, added: “I’ve been fishing here for years and, yes, this is the highest I’ve seen it, but I was expecting this to be much higher and much more of a threat, but it hasn’t been.

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“Our sea defences are much, much better than they were in ‘53.

“If they didn’t work after all the money which has been spent, then I would be worried.”

The ground floor of Jaywick Pharmacy, in Beach Way, was cleared of all medicines well before the high tide was due to come.

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10:29am Fri 6 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Personally I would taken the advice of the emergency services if I lived here. Another foot higher - or a sudden increase in wind speed - and things could have been much worse.
Personally I would taken the advice of the emergency services if I lived here. Another foot higher - or a sudden increase in wind speed - and things could have been much worse. Ritchie_Hicks

10:30am Fri 6 Dec 13

All_talk_no_action says...

Boring, how about the suspicious package outside the bank in Crouch Street, which is closed off?
Boring, how about the suspicious package outside the bank in Crouch Street, which is closed off? All_talk_no_action

12:01pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Scoot says...

Stupid !, and yesterday I was defending the residents of Jaywick. The police should have been able to say "evacuate or be arrested". If it had breached the sea wall there would have been a disaster, did these people not consider the members of the rescue services who would have risked their own lives to try and save people if it had done.
Stupid !, and yesterday I was defending the residents of Jaywick. The police should have been able to say "evacuate or be arrested". If it had breached the sea wall there would have been a disaster, did these people not consider the members of the rescue services who would have risked their own lives to try and save people if it had done. Scoot

12:10pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

All_talk_no_action wrote:
Boring, how about the suspicious package outside the bank in Crouch Street, which is closed off?
What, this one?

http://www.gazette-n
ews.co.uk/news/10860
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[quote][p][bold]All_talk_no_action[/bold] wrote: Boring, how about the suspicious package outside the bank in Crouch Street, which is closed off?[/p][/quote]What, this one? http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/news/10860 576.Package_sparks_b omb_fear_in_Colchest er_town_centre/ Ritchie_Hicks

12:27pm Fri 6 Dec 13

RonnieClegg says...

Amazed at all the people on the news saying that they wouldn't be moving "just for a day" from Jaywick. Presumably they'd have been the same ones wanting rescuing in far less than a day if the worst had happened, putting someone else at risk to do so. Idiots.
Amazed at all the people on the news saying that they wouldn't be moving "just for a day" from Jaywick. Presumably they'd have been the same ones wanting rescuing in far less than a day if the worst had happened, putting someone else at risk to do so. Idiots. RonnieClegg

3:30pm Fri 6 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also.
the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls.
quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed"
we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex.
look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers.
please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed"
Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in.
Not ONE....
Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!!

we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here.
Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,,
"theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long..

No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time.
To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice"
please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality.
thankyou for your concern though !!

If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong.. tomtheDJ

3:39pm Fri 6 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Oh, forgot to add, we saw we waited we watched todays 2pm "flood"
no higher than a normal spring tide.
ALL our emergancy services were offsite by 4am this morning !!
just a few mobile patrols checking on the hoody type theifs coming into the areas to breakin the empty homes,
yet another reason not to go unnessasary..

one 2pm onlooker said, "just what was all the fuss about" as the buses were runing from 7am, the dustbin men from 6-45am, the mobile street cleaner doing its two runs by 8-30am, nothings changed has it.
the postmen walking there busy rounds ontime, the kids went to school, the taxis were still coming and going, nothings changed has it ??

I just shook my head, and replied..I need some more sleep..lol

while we wonder how it is on mersea, maldon, or any other "at risk" flooded areas of essex..
Oh, forgot to add, we saw we waited we watched todays 2pm "flood" no higher than a normal spring tide. ALL our emergancy services were offsite by 4am this morning !! just a few mobile patrols checking on the hoody type theifs coming into the areas to breakin the empty homes, yet another reason not to go unnessasary.. one 2pm onlooker said, "just what was all the fuss about" as the buses were runing from 7am, the dustbin men from 6-45am, the mobile street cleaner doing its two runs by 8-30am, nothings changed has it. the postmen walking there busy rounds ontime, the kids went to school, the taxis were still coming and going, nothings changed has it ?? I just shook my head, and replied..I need some more sleep..lol while we wonder how it is on mersea, maldon, or any other "at risk" flooded areas of essex.. tomtheDJ

4:37pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Scoot says...

Its ok to say it was nothing to worry about after the even. or we have lived here for blah blah blah. But the experts gave a warning and from what I hear it got close to breaching. If it had the force of the in rush would have created something pretty close to a tsunami effect not just a gentle flood. What would have happened if there was a weak bit of seawall that gave way what would have happened then ?? Ok stupid may have been the wrong word maybe inconsiderate should have been used to describe those that didn't think what would have happened if it did flood and those that would have been called in to rescue would have had to face deep water with god knows what submerged and other things floating around thus putting them in peril. As someone who works connected with it on a daily basis, the sea should be respected and it can never really be 100 pct predicted even by experts but it is always best to err on caution rather than risk others lives.
Its ok to say it was nothing to worry about after the even. or we have lived here for blah blah blah. But the experts gave a warning and from what I hear it got close to breaching. If it had the force of the in rush would have created something pretty close to a tsunami effect not just a gentle flood. What would have happened if there was a weak bit of seawall that gave way what would have happened then ?? Ok stupid may have been the wrong word maybe inconsiderate should have been used to describe those that didn't think what would have happened if it did flood and those that would have been called in to rescue would have had to face deep water with god knows what submerged and other things floating around thus putting them in peril. As someone who works connected with it on a daily basis, the sea should be respected and it can never really be 100 pct predicted even by experts but it is always best to err on caution rather than risk others lives. Scoot

6:26pm Fri 6 Dec 13

All_talk_no_action says...

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
All_talk_no_action wrote:
Boring, how about the suspicious package outside the bank in Crouch Street, which is closed off?
What, this one?

http://www.gazette-n

ews.co.uk/news/10860

576.Package_sparks_b

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Yea Its there now......after the editor saw my comment, look at the time stamp....
[quote][p][bold]Ritchie_Hicks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]All_talk_no_action[/bold] wrote: Boring, how about the suspicious package outside the bank in Crouch Street, which is closed off?[/p][/quote]What, this one? http://www.gazette-n ews.co.uk/news/10860 576.Package_sparks_b omb_fear_in_Colchest er_town_centre/[/p][/quote]Yea Its there now......after the editor saw my comment, look at the time stamp.... All_talk_no_action

7:50pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Mail Member 4 Colchester says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also.
the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls.
quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed"
we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex.
look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers.
please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed"
Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in.
Not ONE....
Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!!

we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here.
Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,,
"theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long..

No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time.
To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice"
please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality.
thankyou for your concern though !!

If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about.

SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE!

It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is.

HAPPY DAZE................
...................
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ................... Mail Member 4 Colchester

7:52pm Fri 6 Dec 13

25414nora says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also.
the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls.
quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed"
we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex.
look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers.
please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed"
Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in.
Not ONE....
Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!!

we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here.
Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,,
"theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long..

No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time.
To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice"
please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality.
thankyou for your concern though !!

If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
All's well that ends well. But those of us who remember 1953, will frown at tomtheDJ's glib comment. Well documented facts show that in 1953, the sea wall was,'also' NOT breeched, but the sea inundated Jaywick from the back (St Osyth marshes). From golf green road, to Lion point to the Martello tower. Brooklands went totally under water, people drowned in their beds.
Well written facts tell how the sea wall actually kept the water from draining away. The 3 Jays pub in jaywick lane was the landing point for the small rescue boats. Yes indeed All's well that ends well.
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]All's well that ends well. But those of us who remember 1953, will frown at tomtheDJ's glib comment. Well documented facts show that in 1953, the sea wall was,'also' NOT breeched, but the sea inundated Jaywick from the back (St Osyth marshes). From golf green road, to Lion point to the Martello tower. Brooklands went totally under water, people drowned in their beds. Well written facts tell how the sea wall actually kept the water from draining away. The 3 Jays pub in jaywick lane was the landing point for the small rescue boats. Yes indeed All's well that ends well. 25414nora

8:24pm Fri 6 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................
do what you member -
"Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall,"
it never came no where near the top of the wall....
why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments.

go take a sleeping pill or something fool..
[quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................[/p][/quote]do what you member - "Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall," it never came no where near the top of the wall.... why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments. go take a sleeping pill or something fool.. tomtheDJ

8:38pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Mail Member 4 Colchester says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................
do what you member -
"Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall,"
it never came no where near the top of the wall....
why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments.

go take a sleeping pill or something fool..
Just as we were getting on so well, I never will understand your antagonism towards me?

I wasn't in Jaywick, but at least one Gazette report last night suggested it reached those heights. Which, for me, just proved what a real expert you are. You had it to pin-point accuracy. Like these book learning people will ever be as knowing as us. Let's not squabble where there is real agreement, please, Ian?
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................[/p][/quote]do what you member - "Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall," it never came no where near the top of the wall.... why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments. go take a sleeping pill or something fool..[/p][/quote]Just as we were getting on so well, I never will understand your antagonism towards me? I wasn't in Jaywick, but at least one Gazette report last night suggested it reached those heights. Which, for me, just proved what a real expert you are. You had it to pin-point accuracy. Like these book learning people will ever be as knowing as us. Let's not squabble where there is real agreement, please, Ian? Mail Member 4 Colchester

8:42pm Fri 6 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

25414nora wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
All's well that ends well. But those of us who remember 1953, will frown at tomtheDJ's glib comment. Well documented facts show that in 1953, the sea wall was,'also' NOT breeched, but the sea inundated Jaywick from the back (St Osyth marshes). From golf green road, to Lion point to the Martello tower. Brooklands went totally under water, people drowned in their beds. Well written facts tell how the sea wall actually kept the water from draining away. The 3 Jays pub in jaywick lane was the landing point for the small rescue boats. Yes indeed All's well that ends well.
Well Nora, I`m afraid things have been improves a tad since 1953.
but lets talk facts eh.
to the best of my knowledge, no one lost there lives in Brooklands in 1953`s floods.
It WAS the much lower areas of Grasslands, and the villages that suffered.
there was not one property that was moved through seawater in brooklands in 1953 either, but most of the properties in Grasslands suffered horribly along with the village areas.
take the gazettes "classic" front page photo from nearly a year ago,
look closely at that old 1953 photo, then tell me what part of the estate was jumbled like toy bricks ??
Grasslands and the village areas.
Brooklands never moved.
Many homes on my part of Brooklands have been rebuilt to modern standards or been made almost flood proof, along with mine "in part" to WITHSTAND moving floodwaters, built on 1 metre deep solid concrete base,
while other homes including current homes under reconstruction, there only stipulation is that another story/floor on top must include a balcony for _ emergancy exits - caused through fire or flooding...but It will not flood "here"
it never last night, It wont tomorrow or the next day nor the next. It wont flood here !!!
Planning restrictions due to panicking planning officers under direction of the - ENVIRONMENT AGENCY have lifted the ban on building here within Jaywick, my jaywick. Fact my friend.
If I wanted too, I could knock down my much improved and enlarged bungalow, and after a FUL planning aprovel, rebuild a much larger 2 story home over my few plots my home stands on.
with a seaview sun balcony to be used for - emergancy exits. (or sunbathing 1 story up)
things HAVE changed within my part of Jaywick, with much more coming soon I hear... gladly..
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]All's well that ends well. But those of us who remember 1953, will frown at tomtheDJ's glib comment. Well documented facts show that in 1953, the sea wall was,'also' NOT breeched, but the sea inundated Jaywick from the back (St Osyth marshes). From golf green road, to Lion point to the Martello tower. Brooklands went totally under water, people drowned in their beds. Well written facts tell how the sea wall actually kept the water from draining away. The 3 Jays pub in jaywick lane was the landing point for the small rescue boats. Yes indeed All's well that ends well.[/p][/quote]Well Nora, I`m afraid things have been improves a tad since 1953. but lets talk facts eh. to the best of my knowledge, no one lost there lives in Brooklands in 1953`s floods. It WAS the much lower areas of Grasslands, and the villages that suffered. there was not one property that was moved through seawater in brooklands in 1953 either, but most of the properties in Grasslands suffered horribly along with the village areas. take the gazettes "classic" front page photo from nearly a year ago, look closely at that old 1953 photo, then tell me what part of the estate was jumbled like toy bricks ?? Grasslands and the village areas. Brooklands never moved. Many homes on my part of Brooklands have been rebuilt to modern standards or been made almost flood proof, along with mine "in part" to WITHSTAND moving floodwaters, built on 1 metre deep solid concrete base, while other homes including current homes under reconstruction, there only stipulation is that another story/floor on top must include a balcony for _ emergancy exits - caused through fire or flooding...but It will not flood "here" it never last night, It wont tomorrow or the next day nor the next. It wont flood here !!! Planning restrictions due to panicking planning officers under direction of the - ENVIRONMENT AGENCY have lifted the ban on building here within Jaywick, my jaywick. Fact my friend. If I wanted too, I could knock down my much improved and enlarged bungalow, and after a FUL planning aprovel, rebuild a much larger 2 story home over my few plots my home stands on. with a seaview sun balcony to be used for - emergancy exits. (or sunbathing 1 story up) things HAVE changed within my part of Jaywick, with much more coming soon I hear... gladly.. tomtheDJ

9:38pm Fri 6 Dec 13

25414nora says...

I hear you loud and clear Tom, and I'm so pleased for you, Your steadfast defence of all things 'Jaywick' is most commendable. Clearly you believe
"my Jaywick" will be flood free for evermore, 'and I hope so too' . Just a word of friendly advice tho. Take a careful look at the small print in your buildings Insurance policy.
I hear you loud and clear Tom, and I'm so pleased for you, Your steadfast defence of all things 'Jaywick' is most commendable. Clearly you believe "my Jaywick" will be flood free for evermore, 'and I hope so too' . Just a word of friendly advice tho. Take a careful look at the small print in your buildings Insurance policy. 25414nora

11:30am Sat 7 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote:
Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................
do what you member - "Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall," it never came no where near the top of the wall.... why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments. go take a sleeping pill or something fool..
Just as we were getting on so well, I never will understand your antagonism towards me? I wasn't in Jaywick, but at least one Gazette report last night suggested it reached those heights. Which, for me, just proved what a real expert you are. You had it to pin-point accuracy. Like these book learning people will ever be as knowing as us. Let's not squabble where there is real agreement, please, Ian?
from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night -

1:53am

It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues.

About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea.

therein it contains all the information anyone who - ahemm "thinks they know better" than us Brooklanders do..
[quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................[/p][/quote]do what you member - "Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall," it never came no where near the top of the wall.... why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments. go take a sleeping pill or something fool..[/p][/quote]Just as we were getting on so well, I never will understand your antagonism towards me? I wasn't in Jaywick, but at least one Gazette report last night suggested it reached those heights. Which, for me, just proved what a real expert you are. You had it to pin-point accuracy. Like these book learning people will ever be as knowing as us. Let's not squabble where there is real agreement, please, Ian?[/p][/quote]from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. therein it contains all the information anyone who - ahemm "thinks they know better" than us Brooklanders do.. tomtheDJ

11:42am Sat 7 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

25414nora wrote:
I hear you loud and clear Tom, and I'm so pleased for you, Your steadfast defence of all things 'Jaywick' is most commendable. Clearly you believe "my Jaywick" will be flood free for evermore, 'and I hope so too' . Just a word of friendly advice tho. Take a careful look at the small print in your buildings Insurance policy.
thank you for your reply, but I believe it should be aimed at many many other areas within essex (or the rest of the country in fact)
we fared so much better than most other areas.
just read through this rags news coverage of flooded homes, streets and even brightlingseas open air pool.
try to find a story of brightlingseas newest marina, complete with underground car park that contained a Ferrari.
wonder if that owner considered flood insurance for such an Iconic sports car ??
[quote][p][bold]25414nora[/bold] wrote: I hear you loud and clear Tom, and I'm so pleased for you, Your steadfast defence of all things 'Jaywick' is most commendable. Clearly you believe "my Jaywick" will be flood free for evermore, 'and I hope so too' . Just a word of friendly advice tho. Take a careful look at the small print in your buildings Insurance policy.[/p][/quote]thank you for your reply, but I believe it should be aimed at many many other areas within essex (or the rest of the country in fact) we fared so much better than most other areas. just read through this rags news coverage of flooded homes, streets and even brightlingseas open air pool. try to find a story of brightlingseas newest marina, complete with underground car park that contained a Ferrari. wonder if that owner considered flood insurance for such an Iconic sports car ?? tomtheDJ

12:04pm Sat 7 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Ok, a bit of history time now.
back in the early 2000`s when I retired here, our beach levels had depleted so much, that "SOME" of the concreted steps that led from over our seawall to the beach had about 18 steps.
in "some" points "then" there was open airspace between the lowest step and the beach !!
when we had spring tides or storm tides, the force of the sea hitting the seawall sent waves clean over "some" of the front line bungalows, even its then newest building, our great seafronting community centre of which is 2 stories high.
while this was fun for some to watch, a few things that were involved in all that seawater & sand were not good for.
1) buildings & its residents,
2) vehicles & its drivers
3) any unguarded animals caught out.
all servived to tell the tale
(well, maybe the saltwater covered vehicles have been scrapped due to excessive corrosion by now)
but then so will 1000`s more in essex alone since this flood !!
then My Jaywick got granted a huge funding for granite roack armour being placed at strategic points along our foreshore along with million of tonnes of freshly dredged sand, so fine, it became airbourne in strong winds the blew to the east along our shoreline thus pushing it over our seawall nearly blocking our road (it blocked HastingsAvenue in Clacton, infact do so reguarly still)
we then had more sand - millions of tonnes of it but rougher sand thats not so easy to become wind blown, all laid down nearer to the "new flats" end, including the frontage where I live.
The EA have encouraged sand dunes to grow along our part of the beach in an attempt to stop sand movement with the seeding of most of it with rough/ hardy seagrass`s of which it has done succesfully.
not all of the dunes were overtopped, but in general the beach was - but safely.

So, long story - but, if you have never visited us here for many years, but still go by memmories both good and bad, things have changed here for the better, well, in my part at least, as I live here ;)..lol and long will I remain so too !!
Ok, a bit of history time now. back in the early 2000`s when I retired here, our beach levels had depleted so much, that "SOME" of the concreted steps that led from over our seawall to the beach had about 18 steps. in "some" points "then" there was open airspace between the lowest step and the beach !! when we had spring tides or storm tides, the force of the sea hitting the seawall sent waves clean over "some" of the front line bungalows, even its then newest building, our great seafronting community centre of which is 2 stories high. while this was fun for some to watch, a few things that were involved in all that seawater & sand were not good for. 1) buildings & its residents, 2) vehicles & its drivers 3) any unguarded animals caught out. all servived to tell the tale (well, maybe the saltwater covered vehicles have been scrapped due to excessive corrosion by now) but then so will 1000`s more in essex alone since this flood !! then My Jaywick got granted a huge funding for granite roack armour being placed at strategic points along our foreshore along with million of tonnes of freshly dredged sand, so fine, it became airbourne in strong winds the blew to the east along our shoreline thus pushing it over our seawall nearly blocking our road (it blocked HastingsAvenue in Clacton, infact do so reguarly still) we then had more sand - millions of tonnes of it but rougher sand thats not so easy to become wind blown, all laid down nearer to the "new flats" end, including the frontage where I live. The EA have encouraged sand dunes to grow along our part of the beach in an attempt to stop sand movement with the seeding of most of it with rough/ hardy seagrass`s of which it has done succesfully. not all of the dunes were overtopped, but in general the beach was - but safely. So, long story - but, if you have never visited us here for many years, but still go by memmories both good and bad, things have changed here for the better, well, in my part at least, as I live here ;)..lol and long will I remain so too !! tomtheDJ

12:04pm Sat 7 Dec 13

Mail Member 4 Colchester says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote:
Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..
Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................
do what you member - "Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall," it never came no where near the top of the wall.... why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments. go take a sleeping pill or something fool..
Just as we were getting on so well, I never will understand your antagonism towards me? I wasn't in Jaywick, but at least one Gazette report last night suggested it reached those heights. Which, for me, just proved what a real expert you are. You had it to pin-point accuracy. Like these book learning people will ever be as knowing as us. Let's not squabble where there is real agreement, please, Ian?
from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night -

1:53am

It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues.

About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea.

therein it contains all the information anyone who - ahemm "thinks they know better" than us Brooklanders do..
And at 01.04 the Gazette tweeted:-

'SARA officers say sea wall expected to be breached at Brooklands. Strongly recommend ev1 to evacuate now'.

As I've repeatedly said,
You obviously knew best.
Those of us without any education in these matters,
Clearly know better than all these bloody book learners.
Next,
They'll be telling us not to hit the return,
key.
After,
Every,
Single,
Bloody,
Comma.
It's political correctness gone mad is what it is, and I'm bloody sick of it.

Well done, Ian!

LOLS................
...

HAPPY DAZE................
......
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: I stayed, I waited, I saw just how high it was also. the difference between stupid and staying was a metre or 15 above the top of the seawalls. quite a few properties have been rebuilt out of flood resistant brick and being higher than previous buildings, are also benefitting from another floor level, infact, to get planning now, you must include a first floor balcony for use of escape from fire or flood "if needed" we in seawall fronting Brooklands ARE higher than ANY other point of Jaywick, and ALL of the holiday parks along our coast, and as such are situated to be a lot safer than so so many other areas of essex. look elsewhere for stories and pictures of flooded shops, homes and bussineses before you start with the pointed fingers. please do not get sucked into the vortex of "we are all doomed" Not one single home in my part of jaywick even got wet, unless you count footprints going in. Not ONE.... Infact, the other much lower parts of residential jaywick, and areas in the old Butlins site of clacton were and are, in much more danger from rainwater flooding, and reguarly flooded !!!! we seawall watchers know when to run or fight, we are used to high tides, with many covering our fairly new beaches since I have lived here. Last night, bless her, one policewoman was near to hysteria with shouts of,, "theres a 3 metre wall of water coming"....bless her, she must have had her earpiece in too long.. No, afraid guys, your pointy fingers were and are completely wrong this time. To live here is to understand the place, to sit and read from afar is to be as dim as our keyboard warrior Ahemm, "justice" please dont join him/her/it in being out of touch with reality. thankyou for your concern though !! If you doubt me, come for tea and a biccie, and I`ll show you just where your oh so wrong..[/p][/quote]Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall, without actually going over it, proves you right. Last night, I did likewise, and relied on my trusted seaweed. The seaweed told me I had nothing at all to worry about. SEAWEED, NOT SCIENCE! It's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is. HAPPY DAZE................ ...................[/p][/quote]do what you member - "Well said, Ian, and very well done. Of course you know better than any so-called 'expert'. What do they know, with their heads stuck in books, and science? As I always say, you can't learn anything from a book, or scientific research. The fact the water only reached the height of the sea wall," it never came no where near the top of the wall.... why do I waste my time on your obsessive comments. go take a sleeping pill or something fool..[/p][/quote]Just as we were getting on so well, I never will understand your antagonism towards me? I wasn't in Jaywick, but at least one Gazette report last night suggested it reached those heights. Which, for me, just proved what a real expert you are. You had it to pin-point accuracy. Like these book learning people will ever be as knowing as us. Let's not squabble where there is real agreement, please, Ian?[/p][/quote]from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. therein it contains all the information anyone who - ahemm "thinks they know better" than us Brooklanders do..[/p][/quote]And at 01.04 the Gazette tweeted:- 'SARA officers say sea wall expected to be breached at Brooklands. Strongly recommend ev1 to evacuate now'. As I've repeatedly said, You obviously knew best. Those of us without any education in these matters, Clearly know better than all these bloody book learners. Next, They'll be telling us not to hit the return, key. After, Every, Single, Bloody, Comma. It's political correctness gone mad is what it is, and I'm bloody sick of it. Well done, Ian! LOLS................ ... HAPPY DAZE................ ...... Mail Member 4 Colchester

9:25pm Sat 7 Dec 13

RonnieClegg says...

Tom,

Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?
Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar? RonnieClegg

10:37pm Sat 7 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

RonnieClegg wrote:
Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?
Tom, were you there ?
If the answer was NO,
then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you.
many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them??
one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all.
from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night -

1:53am

It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues.

About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea.

I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall

the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended.
draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene,
but I WAS !!
If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact,
then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ??
I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs.
I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides.
I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood.
NOT PRETTY IS IT !!

Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??
[quote][p][bold]RonnieClegg[/bold] wrote: Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?[/p][/quote]Tom, were you there ? If the answer was NO, then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you. many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them?? one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all. from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended. draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene, but I WAS !! If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact, then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ?? I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs. I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides. I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood. NOT PRETTY IS IT !! Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ?? tomtheDJ

10:40pm Sat 7 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

typo, not tom but reggie wrote,
(got a non tired 5 year old trying to type) ;)
typo, not tom but reggie wrote, (got a non tired 5 year old trying to type) ;) tomtheDJ

12:02am Sun 8 Dec 13

Mail Member 4 Colchester says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
RonnieClegg wrote:
Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?
Tom, were you there ?
If the answer was NO,
then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you.
many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them??
one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all.
from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night -

1:53am

It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues.

About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea.

I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall

the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended.
draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene,
but I WAS !!
If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact,
then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ??
I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs.
I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides.
I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood.
NOT PRETTY IS IT !!

Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??
Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy.

LOLS.....

HAPPY DAZE.......

We're all,
Blown away,
By You,
Ian...
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RonnieClegg[/bold] wrote: Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?[/p][/quote]Tom, were you there ? If the answer was NO, then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you. many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them?? one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all. from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended. draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene, but I WAS !! If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact, then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ?? I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs. I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides. I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood. NOT PRETTY IS IT !! Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??[/p][/quote]Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy. LOLS..... HAPPY DAZE....... We're all, Blown away, By You, Ian... Mail Member 4 Colchester

4:38pm Sun 8 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote:
RonnieClegg wrote: Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?
Tom, were you there ? If the answer was NO, then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you. many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them?? one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all. from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended. draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene, but I WAS !! If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact, then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ?? I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs. I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides. I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood. NOT PRETTY IS IT !! Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??
Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy. LOLS..... HAPPY DAZE....... We're all, Blown away, By You, Ian...
now this member ->
"Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy"
well, a whisker to you must over 3 foot long to others eh..LOL...
still, whats a a few feet of water between friends............. ;)

"Our leader was being filmed by a professional looking film crew today on the walkway adjacent to the coastguard slipway by Tamerisk car park.
must have been there about an hour

our leader departed allowing both photographers and filmcrew to trudge along our now soft damp sand to the other end of Brooklands beach frontage, then heading for St.Oyths or points west


wonder just where that film showing will be on, as it was`nt a families beach holliday, with nice warm sheepskin coats on eh..................



But then lets face it, we are really lucky here in Brooklands,
we have the best sea defences in most of Essex, we had more then the most emergancy teams than anywhere in Essex,
the most areas spend since 1996 than anywhere else in Essex,
and as it turned out, the most safest place to be In anywhere else in Essex..

BRAVO I say...........

but best of all, I still live very happily here in MY Jaywick, not yours, mine..LOL
[quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RonnieClegg[/bold] wrote: Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?[/p][/quote]Tom, were you there ? If the answer was NO, then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you. many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them?? one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all. from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended. draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene, but I WAS !! If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact, then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ?? I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs. I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides. I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood. NOT PRETTY IS IT !! Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??[/p][/quote]Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy. LOLS..... HAPPY DAZE....... We're all, Blown away, By You, Ian...[/p][/quote]now this member -> "Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy" well, a whisker to you must over 3 foot long to others eh..LOL... still, whats a a few feet of water between friends............. ;) "Our leader was being filmed by a professional looking film crew today on the walkway adjacent to the coastguard slipway by Tamerisk car park. must have been there about an hour our leader departed allowing both photographers and filmcrew to trudge along our now soft damp sand to the other end of Brooklands beach frontage, then heading for St.Oyths or points west wonder just where that film showing will be on, as it was`nt a families beach holliday, with nice warm sheepskin coats on eh.................. But then lets face it, we are really lucky here in Brooklands, we have the best sea defences in most of Essex, we had more then the most emergancy teams than anywhere in Essex, the most areas spend since 1996 than anywhere else in Essex, and as it turned out, the most safest place to be In anywhere else in Essex.. BRAVO I say........... but best of all, I still live very happily here in MY Jaywick, not yours, mine..LOL tomtheDJ

10:47am Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

monday morning came to my jaywick as usual, its very good free to us pensioners bus service runs as regular as clockwork from 7am for its paying passengers.
the seagulls crying for food left out for them,
the sheer peace and quiet inbetween times makes it all very worthwhile a place to live here.
A golden sunset lastnight was catured by photo for an eternity,
the continued reminder of just how lucky we really are as coastal dwellers.
monday morning came to my jaywick as usual, its very good free to us pensioners bus service runs as regular as clockwork from 7am for its paying passengers. the seagulls crying for food left out for them, the sheer peace and quiet inbetween times makes it all very worthwhile a place to live here. A golden sunset lastnight was catured by photo for an eternity, the continued reminder of just how lucky we really are as coastal dwellers. tomtheDJ

10:51am Mon 9 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

Anyone who ignored the advice of the professionals to evacuate is an idiot.
Anyone who ignored the advice of the professionals to evacuate is an idiot. Ritchie_Hicks

3:46pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
Anyone who ignored the advice of the professionals to evacuate is an idiot.
anyone who was never there but tries being an armchair critic is a bigger Idiot..
how many evac`t from brightlingsea, point clear, seawick st,osyth, harich, maldon, the list is endless,
yet you point your finger without actually being here...
sad....
I have said before, plus its actually on the essex and suffolks coastal defence plan, the variation of ground hights within Jaywick.
the village plus the rear of Brooklands in grasslands IS much lower ground levels than the seawall end of Jaywick, its actually below high tide levels, but,
BROOKLANDS/ my home & gardens, Is higher than the above.

just how simple can I make it !!!
[quote][p][bold]Ritchie_Hicks[/bold] wrote: Anyone who ignored the advice of the professionals to evacuate is an idiot.[/p][/quote]anyone who was never there but tries being an armchair critic is a bigger Idiot.. how many evac`t from brightlingsea, point clear, seawick st,osyth, harich, maldon, the list is endless, yet you point your finger without actually being here... sad.... I have said before, plus its actually on the essex and suffolks coastal defence plan, the variation of ground hights within Jaywick. the village plus the rear of Brooklands in grasslands IS much lower ground levels than the seawall end of Jaywick, its actually below high tide levels, but, BROOKLANDS/ my home & gardens, Is higher than the above. just how simple can I make it !!! tomtheDJ

3:52pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

On reflection, from the chief of Police down, they must have looked rather silly sending so much manpower to a NON happening Incident.
my nextdoor neighbour took flight to a local pub yet got distressed to see so many boat units sent in from as far as hertfordshire to "assist"
NO ONE even got there feet wet - FACT..

all this heresay from badged up I`m in charges must have mad then rethink on just went wrong in deploying SO much to an area that NEVER flooded,
yet sent very little manpower to areas that DID flood.

Heads should roll over abuse of resourses..
On reflection, from the chief of Police down, they must have looked rather silly sending so much manpower to a NON happening Incident. my nextdoor neighbour took flight to a local pub yet got distressed to see so many boat units sent in from as far as hertfordshire to "assist" NO ONE even got there feet wet - FACT.. all this heresay from badged up I`m in charges must have mad then rethink on just went wrong in deploying SO much to an area that NEVER flooded, yet sent very little manpower to areas that DID flood. Heads should roll over abuse of resourses.. tomtheDJ

3:54pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
Anyone who ignored the advice of the professionals to evacuate is an idiot.
anyone who was never there but tries being an armchair critic is a bigger Idiot..
how many evac`t from brightlingsea, point clear, seawick st,osyth, harich, maldon, the list is endless,
yet you point your finger without actually being here...
sad....
I have said before, plus its actually on the essex and suffolks coastal defence plan, the variation of ground hights within Jaywick.
the village plus the rear of Brooklands in grasslands IS much lower ground levels than the seawall end of Jaywick, its actually below high tide levels, but,
BROOKLANDS/ my home & gardens, Is higher than the above.

just how simple can I make it !!!
I was there!
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ritchie_Hicks[/bold] wrote: Anyone who ignored the advice of the professionals to evacuate is an idiot.[/p][/quote]anyone who was never there but tries being an armchair critic is a bigger Idiot.. how many evac`t from brightlingsea, point clear, seawick st,osyth, harich, maldon, the list is endless, yet you point your finger without actually being here... sad.... I have said before, plus its actually on the essex and suffolks coastal defence plan, the variation of ground hights within Jaywick. the village plus the rear of Brooklands in grasslands IS much lower ground levels than the seawall end of Jaywick, its actually below high tide levels, but, BROOKLANDS/ my home & gardens, Is higher than the above. just how simple can I make it !!![/p][/quote]I was there! Ritchie_Hicks

3:55pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!!
as in the picture with this text...

all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what,
a non event..
ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!! as in the picture with this text... all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what, a non event.. tomtheDJ

4:00pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!!
as in the picture with this text...

all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what,
a non event..
A non-event that was almost a minor disaster. Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse. The fact that they weren't was more luck than anything else.

Of course, it would make much more sense not to inform people of the risks. And then, if people drown, people like you could jump up and down and ask why nothing was done to warn people of the danger.
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!! as in the picture with this text... all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what, a non event..[/p][/quote]A non-event that was almost a minor disaster. Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse. The fact that they weren't was more luck than anything else. Of course, it would make much more sense not to inform people of the risks. And then, if people drown, people like you could jump up and down and ask why nothing was done to warn people of the danger. Ritchie_Hicks

4:20pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!! as in the picture with this text... all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what, a non event..
A non-event that was almost a minor disaster. Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse. The fact that they weren't was more luck than anything else. Of course, it would make much more sense not to inform people of the risks. And then, if people drown, people like you could jump up and down and ask why nothing was done to warn people of the danger.
Ritchie,
read through the text in this link

http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-ess
ex-25233370

read through the part about winds expected - well, they never came !!
it blew from the other direction, thus blowing away the "expected" surge so that when it did arrive, it was much much sooner than expected,
much lower than expected,
and not as expected with the high tide,
thus posing NO RISK....
how can I explain it better !!
[quote][p][bold]Ritchie_Hicks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!! as in the picture with this text... all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what, a non event..[/p][/quote]A non-event that was almost a minor disaster. Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse. The fact that they weren't was more luck than anything else. Of course, it would make much more sense not to inform people of the risks. And then, if people drown, people like you could jump up and down and ask why nothing was done to warn people of the danger.[/p][/quote]Ritchie, read through the text in this link http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-ess ex-25233370 read through the part about winds expected - well, they never came !! it blew from the other direction, thus blowing away the "expected" surge so that when it did arrive, it was much much sooner than expected, much lower than expected, and not as expected with the high tide, thus posing NO RISK.... how can I explain it better !! tomtheDJ

4:24pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Ritchie_Hicks says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote: ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!! as in the picture with this text... all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what, a non event..
A non-event that was almost a minor disaster. Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse. The fact that they weren't was more luck than anything else. Of course, it would make much more sense not to inform people of the risks. And then, if people drown, people like you could jump up and down and ask why nothing was done to warn people of the danger.
Ritchie,
read through the text in this link

http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/uk-england-ess

ex-25233370

read through the part about winds expected - well, they never came !!
it blew from the other direction, thus blowing away the "expected" surge so that when it did arrive, it was much much sooner than expected,
much lower than expected,
and not as expected with the high tide,
thus posing NO RISK....
how can I explain it better !!
Once again, you have totally ignored the point that everyone above has tried to make to you and there really is no point in me trying any further to get it accross.
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ritchie_Hicks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: ps, dont forget the Gloustershire boat teams here as well !!!! as in the picture with this text... all that expensive resourses WASTED MONEY for what, a non event..[/p][/quote]A non-event that was almost a minor disaster. Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse. The fact that they weren't was more luck than anything else. Of course, it would make much more sense not to inform people of the risks. And then, if people drown, people like you could jump up and down and ask why nothing was done to warn people of the danger.[/p][/quote]Ritchie, read through the text in this link http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-england-ess ex-25233370 read through the part about winds expected - well, they never came !! it blew from the other direction, thus blowing away the "expected" surge so that when it did arrive, it was much much sooner than expected, much lower than expected, and not as expected with the high tide, thus posing NO RISK.... how can I explain it better !![/p][/quote]Once again, you have totally ignored the point that everyone above has tried to make to you and there really is no point in me trying any further to get it accross. Ritchie_Hicks

4:33pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

a more light hearted view of your remark ritchie ->
" Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse.""
agree ritchie, more so as we live under the flightpath into london, a jumbo jet "coulld" have fallen from the sky at high tide,
so in that instance, the rescue crews COULD have had something to do with all the hours they spent here.
or maybe, a large vessel losing its rudder COULD have headed up our golden sands beach in the high tide without stopping bumped into the seawall opposite the gloustershires rescue transport unit, thus saving to send for one..
The difference between COULD,
and DID was over 2 feet of water we NEVER had.
just try getting round your head that well intentioned but misinformed so called reporters were most proberly bricking themselves while standing on the first floor balcony of the seawall adjacent community resource centre ALSO many many metres above melting glacier tides..

to end this farce ritchie, I was here, along with many from my Brooklands neighbours, as we were not left in any real danger..
plain and simply most of the so called reported events never happend in my or my neighbours community,
just like the usual local rag garbage WE all read from time to time eh Gazette...lol...lol

so, thats it, my final words spoken, so do what you want, it matters nothing,
its been and gone and we lost nothing....
and we never will either ;)
a more light hearted view of your remark ritchie -> " Your Jaywick may have been saved this time but you appear to miss the point that things could have been much worse."" agree ritchie, more so as we live under the flightpath into london, a jumbo jet "coulld" have fallen from the sky at high tide, so in that instance, the rescue crews COULD have had something to do with all the hours they spent here. or maybe, a large vessel losing its rudder COULD have headed up our golden sands beach in the high tide without stopping bumped into the seawall opposite the gloustershires rescue transport unit, thus saving to send for one.. The difference between COULD, and DID was over 2 feet of water we NEVER had. just try getting round your head that well intentioned but misinformed so called reporters were most proberly bricking themselves while standing on the first floor balcony of the seawall adjacent community resource centre ALSO many many metres above melting glacier tides.. to end this farce ritchie, I was here, along with many from my Brooklands neighbours, as we were not left in any real danger.. plain and simply most of the so called reported events never happend in my or my neighbours community, just like the usual local rag garbage WE all read from time to time eh Gazette...lol...lol so, thats it, my final words spoken, so do what you want, it matters nothing, its been and gone and we lost nothing.... and we never will either ;) tomtheDJ

4:43pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

http://www.eadt.co.u
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http://www.eadt.co.u k/news/flood_update_ gallery_evacuees_fro m_jaywick_leave_home s_and_head_for_rest_ centre_1_3080923 tomtheDJ

5:16pm Mon 9 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

1953 no,
try 1948 and before....

http://www.britishpa
the.com/video/sea-fl
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year I was born bless `em..
1953 no, try 1948 and before.... http://www.britishpa the.com/video/sea-fl oods-out-holidaymake rs year I was born bless `em.. tomtheDJ

7:08pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Mail Member 4 Colchester says...

tomtheDJ wrote:
Mail Member 4 Colchester wrote:
tomtheDJ wrote:
RonnieClegg wrote: Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?
Tom, were you there ? If the answer was NO, then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you. many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them?? one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all. from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended. draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene, but I WAS !! If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact, then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ?? I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs. I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides. I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood. NOT PRETTY IS IT !! Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??
Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy. LOLS..... HAPPY DAZE....... We're all, Blown away, By You, Ian...
now this member ->
"Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy"
well, a whisker to you must over 3 foot long to others eh..LOL...
still, whats a a few feet of water between friends............. ;)

"Our leader was being filmed by a professional looking film crew today on the walkway adjacent to the coastguard slipway by Tamerisk car park.
must have been there about an hour

our leader departed allowing both photographers and filmcrew to trudge along our now soft damp sand to the other end of Brooklands beach frontage, then heading for St.Oyths or points west


wonder just where that film showing will be on, as it was`nt a families beach holliday, with nice warm sheepskin coats on eh..................



But then lets face it, we are really lucky here in Brooklands,
we have the best sea defences in most of Essex, we had more then the most emergancy teams than anywhere in Essex,
the most areas spend since 1996 than anywhere else in Essex,
and as it turned out, the most safest place to be In anywhere else in Essex..

BRAVO I say...........

but best of all, I still live very happily here in MY Jaywick, not yours, mine..LOL
Well, some might say, I was in a lot safer place than you, being that I live on the top of a hill, in the middle of Colchester. They might also say you're not only incredibly stupid, but selfish as well. I wonder if those FBU members, who you slag off when they strike, will think, 'Ian Burritt, Broaklands, Jaywick, working-class Tory, idiot, selfish, racist, scum, should we risk our lives to rescue him, next time this happens?'? That's what the haters might think. I say that's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is!

Well done Ian! You beat the book learners, the so-called 'experts'. And not only that, without you, Jaywick would have fallen, to hordes of hoodies from Clacton. who descended on your charming seaside village, in order to loot the place. I think you're being too modest, now is the time to enlighten us with your battle stories. How you saved Jaywick from the mob, single handed!
[quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mail Member 4 Colchester[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tomtheDJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RonnieClegg[/bold] wrote: Tom, Better sea defences undoubtedly saved you and Jaywick, as they did in Brightlingsea. But we were all lucky - and standing Canute like behind the wall and saying, "Look, I knew I'd be safe," only works with hindsight - and is not the action of a sensible, rational person. The surge in the Thames Estuary wasn't quite as big as elsewhere along the East Coast. Luck again, not judgement. As far as the Marina development in Brightlngsea goes, I understand the owner of the car lived away and either could not be contacted or could not get back in time to remove it. And as for it filling up with water, many locals told the developer that it would flood one day – but I understand his response was that it would never happen. Sound familiar?[/p][/quote]Tom, were you there ? If the answer was NO, then you cannot say for sure who was right or wrong can you. many many other local areas to Brooklands DID flood, but just where was the support for them?? one tweet from a gazette reporter says it all. from the gazettes own account at the time, in the place, on the night - 1:53am It's past high tide at Jaywick and our reporter says no major issues. About 5 minutes until high tide at West Mersea. I have looked and have asked for anyone who saw any place that "actually" overtopping of our seawall the police officers on scene were only acting from Information given by 2 way radio, NOT knowning where or when this overtopping took place, as one officer on his own admission never knew just where Brooklands was, started, or ended. draughted in officers from god knows where being Informed by others nowhere near Jaywick was not the Ideal situation for a sheer amount of feet on the scene, but I WAS !! If factual Information was being given about over topping, or indeed the 3 metre surge "coming our way" was correct, the absulute truth, a true fact, then Tom, at what point, what place, just where did it vanish into thin air too ?? I know Brightlingsea quite well, I enjoy sitting on the yaught club frontage tucking into fresh cooked chips on fine days when I/we go on ride outs. I also notice debris left in the roadways from previous high tides. I have not been to Brightlinsea since the flood, but see pictures in the gazette of it taken during the night at the time of the flood. NOT PRETTY IS IT !! Now tom, show me just where it flooded in my Jaywick ??[/p][/quote]Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy. LOLS..... HAPPY DAZE....... We're all, Blown away, By You, Ian...[/p][/quote]now this member -> "Think it's been shown how you were just a whisker away from being drowned. But as said, that just demonstrates how fantastic you are, you can predict the sea with pinpoint accuracy" well, a whisker to you must over 3 foot long to others eh..LOL... still, whats a a few feet of water between friends............. ;) "Our leader was being filmed by a professional looking film crew today on the walkway adjacent to the coastguard slipway by Tamerisk car park. must have been there about an hour our leader departed allowing both photographers and filmcrew to trudge along our now soft damp sand to the other end of Brooklands beach frontage, then heading for St.Oyths or points west wonder just where that film showing will be on, as it was`nt a families beach holliday, with nice warm sheepskin coats on eh.................. But then lets face it, we are really lucky here in Brooklands, we have the best sea defences in most of Essex, we had more then the most emergancy teams than anywhere in Essex, the most areas spend since 1996 than anywhere else in Essex, and as it turned out, the most safest place to be In anywhere else in Essex.. BRAVO I say........... but best of all, I still live very happily here in MY Jaywick, not yours, mine..LOL[/p][/quote]Well, some might say, I was in a lot safer place than you, being that I live on the top of a hill, in the middle of Colchester. They might also say you're not only incredibly stupid, but selfish as well. I wonder if those FBU members, who you slag off when they strike, will think, 'Ian Burritt, Broaklands, Jaywick, working-class Tory, idiot, selfish, racist, scum, should we risk our lives to rescue him, next time this happens?'? That's what the haters might think. I say that's bloody political correctness gone mad, is what it is! Well done Ian! You beat the book learners, the so-called 'experts'. And not only that, without you, Jaywick would have fallen, to hordes of hoodies from Clacton. who descended on your charming seaside village, in order to loot the place. I think you're being too modest, now is the time to enlighten us with your battle stories. How you saved Jaywick from the mob, single handed! Mail Member 4 Colchester

7:47pm Mon 9 Dec 13

RonnieClegg says...

Yep, next time there's any sort of natural disaster forecast, I'll be consulting Tom in Jaywick before listening to any experts... Incidentally the situation at Brightlingsea was very different to Jaywick. The former has very few houses directly in the firing line. Hundreds of homes would have been affected in the latter, the more so because they're at or below high water level, never mind surge level.
Yep, next time there's any sort of natural disaster forecast, I'll be consulting Tom in Jaywick before listening to any experts... Incidentally the situation at Brightlingsea was very different to Jaywick. The former has very few houses directly in the firing line. Hundreds of homes would have been affected in the latter, the more so because they're at or below high water level, never mind surge level. RonnieClegg

3:05pm Wed 11 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

RonnieClegg wrote:
Yep, next time there's any sort of natural disaster forecast, I'll be consulting Tom in Jaywick before listening to any experts... Incidentally the situation at Brightlingsea was very different to Jaywick. The former has very few houses directly in the firing line. Hundreds of homes would have been affected in the latter, the more so because they're at or below high water level, never mind surge level.
LOL
ah, the jaywickian sage tells all.

but your oh so wrong.........sadly.
[quote][p][bold]RonnieClegg[/bold] wrote: Yep, next time there's any sort of natural disaster forecast, I'll be consulting Tom in Jaywick before listening to any experts... Incidentally the situation at Brightlingsea was very different to Jaywick. The former has very few houses directly in the firing line. Hundreds of homes would have been affected in the latter, the more so because they're at or below high water level, never mind surge level.[/p][/quote]LOL ah, the jaywickian sage tells all. but your oh so wrong.........sadly. tomtheDJ

3:20pm Wed 11 Dec 13

tomtheDJ says...

RonnieClegg wrote:
Yep, next time there's any sort of natural disaster forecast, I'll be consulting Tom in Jaywick before listening to any experts... Incidentally the situation at Brightlingsea was very different to Jaywick. The former has very few houses directly in the firing line. Hundreds of homes would have been affected in the latter, the more so because they're at or below high water level, never mind surge level.
tell you what ronnieboy, come visit, bring a tape measure,
and we`ll do some factfinding shall we,
unless of course you have more techie stuff that measures ground hights in pre defined places.

the challenge is ON reggie.....
a good spirit level can help tooooooooo .... ;)
[quote][p][bold]RonnieClegg[/bold] wrote: Yep, next time there's any sort of natural disaster forecast, I'll be consulting Tom in Jaywick before listening to any experts... Incidentally the situation at Brightlingsea was very different to Jaywick. The former has very few houses directly in the firing line. Hundreds of homes would have been affected in the latter, the more so because they're at or below high water level, never mind surge level.[/p][/quote]tell you what ronnieboy, come visit, bring a tape measure, and we`ll do some factfinding shall we, unless of course you have more techie stuff that measures ground hights in pre defined places. the challenge is ON reggie..... a good spirit level can help tooooooooo .... ;) tomtheDJ

6:08pm Thu 12 Dec 13

rhetoric says...

The DJ is incredibly stupid or brave, probably the latter. I can understand wanting to protect his home and belongings, but not standing by the sea wall. It doesn't take much for nature to overwhelm us, and had the conditions been slightly different he could well have been knocked back a few streets!
.
Good fortune was with this country, this time and in the main. Those who lost their houses at Hemsby should be helped and that immediately.
.
We can't go round patting ourselves on the back and saying that's it for once and all, we are protected to the hilt, because it only requires a bad combination of circumstances, and - here we go again! Sea levels are gradually rising, or don't you believe that, DJ?
.
If you are so convinced you are 1000% right, then maybe you should sign a paper saying that you don't want rescuing should anything go wrong with your infinitely wise predictions? After all, it is not fair to put yourself in the firing line, however sure you are that the elements are in your favour, and then expect others to risk their lives when they've already warned you?
.
I do support Jaywick and accept that in the main, it is a little paradise of content for those who choose to live there, but don't be a selfish idiot. Oh! sorry, I forgot that you are a bit weird and know everything.
The DJ is incredibly stupid or brave, probably the latter. I can understand wanting to protect his home and belongings, but not standing by the sea wall. It doesn't take much for nature to overwhelm us, and had the conditions been slightly different he could well have been knocked back a few streets! . Good fortune was with this country, this time and in the main. Those who lost their houses at Hemsby should be helped and that immediately. . We can't go round patting ourselves on the back and saying that's it for once and all, we are protected to the hilt, because it only requires a bad combination of circumstances, and - here we go again! Sea levels are gradually rising, or don't you believe that, DJ? . If you are so convinced you are 1000% right, then maybe you should sign a paper saying that you don't want rescuing should anything go wrong with your infinitely wise predictions? After all, it is not fair to put yourself in the firing line, however sure you are that the elements are in your favour, and then expect others to risk their lives when they've already warned you? . I do support Jaywick and accept that in the main, it is a little paradise of content for those who choose to live there, but don't be a selfish idiot. Oh! sorry, I forgot that you are a bit weird and know everything. rhetoric

9:10pm Thu 12 Dec 13

Misty4 says...

Ritchie_Hicks wrote:
Personally I would taken the advice of the emergency services if I lived here. Another foot higher - or a sudden increase in wind speed - and things could have been much worse.
So would I. It has to be borne in mind that the forecasters cannot be completely accurate - as it was, the sea stopped just short of the top of the sea wall. It's all very well coming out with all this bravado but I guess that some of these people have not taken the time to research what happened in 1953.
[quote][p][bold]Ritchie_Hicks[/bold] wrote: Personally I would taken the advice of the emergency services if I lived here. Another foot higher - or a sudden increase in wind speed - and things could have been much worse.[/p][/quote]So would I. It has to be borne in mind that the forecasters cannot be completely accurate - as it was, the sea stopped just short of the top of the sea wall. It's all very well coming out with all this bravado but I guess that some of these people have not taken the time to research what happened in 1953. Misty4

7:20am Fri 13 Dec 13

Mail Member 4 Colchester says...

rhetoric wrote:
The DJ is incredibly stupid or brave, probably the latter. I can understand wanting to protect his home and belongings, but not standing by the sea wall. It doesn't take much for nature to overwhelm us, and had the conditions been slightly different he could well have been knocked back a few streets!
.
Good fortune was with this country, this time and in the main. Those who lost their houses at Hemsby should be helped and that immediately.
.
We can't go round patting ourselves on the back and saying that's it for once and all, we are protected to the hilt, because it only requires a bad combination of circumstances, and - here we go again! Sea levels are gradually rising, or don't you believe that, DJ?
.
If you are so convinced you are 1000% right, then maybe you should sign a paper saying that you don't want rescuing should anything go wrong with your infinitely wise predictions? After all, it is not fair to put yourself in the firing line, however sure you are that the elements are in your favour, and then expect others to risk their lives when they've already warned you?
.
I do support Jaywick and accept that in the main, it is a little paradise of content for those who choose to live there, but don't be a selfish idiot. Oh! sorry, I forgot that you are a bit weird and know everything.
Oi, ducky,
Who are you calling a 'bit weird'?
What is weird about anything this guy,
Does,
He's writing style,
For instance?

LOLS................
...............

And the sea wall is the highest point in Jaywick,
What better place to stand,
Than on said sea wall's top,
On lookout,
For Clacton's hordes of hoodies,
Who without Ian,
Would have looted Jaywick.

HAPPY DAZE................
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[quote][p][bold]rhetoric[/bold] wrote: The DJ is incredibly stupid or brave, probably the latter. I can understand wanting to protect his home and belongings, but not standing by the sea wall. It doesn't take much for nature to overwhelm us, and had the conditions been slightly different he could well have been knocked back a few streets! . Good fortune was with this country, this time and in the main. Those who lost their houses at Hemsby should be helped and that immediately. . We can't go round patting ourselves on the back and saying that's it for once and all, we are protected to the hilt, because it only requires a bad combination of circumstances, and - here we go again! Sea levels are gradually rising, or don't you believe that, DJ? . If you are so convinced you are 1000% right, then maybe you should sign a paper saying that you don't want rescuing should anything go wrong with your infinitely wise predictions? After all, it is not fair to put yourself in the firing line, however sure you are that the elements are in your favour, and then expect others to risk their lives when they've already warned you? . I do support Jaywick and accept that in the main, it is a little paradise of content for those who choose to live there, but don't be a selfish idiot. Oh! sorry, I forgot that you are a bit weird and know everything.[/p][/quote]Oi, ducky, Who are you calling a 'bit weird'? What is weird about anything this guy, Does, He's writing style, For instance? LOLS................ ............... And the sea wall is the highest point in Jaywick, What better place to stand, Than on said sea wall's top, On lookout, For Clacton's hordes of hoodies, Who without Ian, Would have looted Jaywick. HAPPY DAZE................ .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... .................... ...... Mail Member 4 Colchester

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