How will Stanway cope with 800 homes?

DETAILS of how an 800-home development in Stanway could look have been unveiled.

The homes on the site of Fiveways Fruit Farm, near to the Fiveways junction, will see the parish’s population increase by 25 per cent.

The new development will be accessible from Blackberry Road and from a southbound lane from the new Stanway Western Bypass roundabout.

Residents and councillors do not object to the homes, but have warned supporting infrastructure must be in place before building begins The homes are due to be built between 2016 and 2023.

Colin Lax, of Rose Avenue, Stanway, said: “Building 800 homes is all well and good, but we need to see the infrastructure being built before the houses are even started.

“There’s no doubt we will have to see a good design and promises the infrastructure will be there.

“Where will all the cars go? Will the roads take however many cars 800 homes attract? Will children be able to get school places?”

As part of Colchester Council’s “growth plan” for Stanway, 300 homes have already been built in Lakelands, west of the proposed Fiveways site.

When the last of the 600 home is completed, money will be released to help fund a new primary school.

Lesley Scott-Boutell, borough councillor for Stanway, said residents are already being surveyed for their views on Stanway’s expansion.

She said: “The one big concern from residents will be the infrastructure and how traffic will be supported by the infrastructure.

“People really think it is important planners at Colchester Council and Essex County Council look at the cumulative effect the homes will have.”

Under the plans, one “spinal” road will link the new estate between Blackberry Road and Warren Lane.

It is anticipated Dyers Road would not be open to cars, but pedestrians and cyclists would still be able to use it.

The estate’s cycle routes could also be built into the Stanway to Tollgate cycle link.

The site has primarily been used for agriculture, although it is also occupied by the fruit farm on the eastern side and the Par Air Kennels and Cattery to the west.

Landowner Julian Meade was contacted for comment but did not return the Gazette’s call.

It is not known what will happen to Fiveways Fruit Farm and Layer Marney Lamb butchers situated where the homes are going to be built.

The Stanway Bypass is due to open in March 2014.

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7:27am Fri 6 Dec 13

jim_bo says...

800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.
800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure. jim_bo

8:10am Fri 6 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Quote "Residents and councillors do not object to the homes, but have warned supporting infrastructure must be in place before building begins The homes are due to be built between 2016 and 2023" ????

If what has already happened, along with the planned developments in Mile End are anything to go by then Stanway has no chance of getting any supporting infrastructure.

Those responsible for planning in Colchester, both officers and members of the planning committee force these questionable development though to a point where many question who is actually benefiting from these dubious decisions? The developers clearly have deep enough pockets to satisfy many people!
Quote "Residents and councillors do not object to the homes, but have warned supporting infrastructure must be in place before building begins The homes are due to be built between 2016 and 2023" ???? If what has already happened, along with the planned developments in Mile End are anything to go by then Stanway has no chance of getting any supporting infrastructure. Those responsible for planning in Colchester, both officers and members of the planning committee force these questionable development though to a point where many question who is actually benefiting from these dubious decisions? The developers clearly have deep enough pockets to satisfy many people! Say It As It Is OK?

11:20am Fri 6 Dec 13

seikothrill says...

I expect this development to be approved by Colchester Council if they can approve 1600 houses in Mile End.
I expect this development to be approved by Colchester Council if they can approve 1600 houses in Mile End. seikothrill

12:48pm Fri 6 Dec 13

wardyt says...

"How will Stanway cope with 800 homes?" - It won't and the Council dont give a s$%t.
"How will Stanway cope with 800 homes?" - It won't and the Council dont give a s$%t. wardyt

12:59pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Red Tape 2 says...

It won't but do they care - no!
It won't but do they care - no! Red Tape 2

1:17pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Scoot says...

I trust the infrastructure being in place means the trains from Colchester are going to improve because I can't see any developments or large companies moving to Colchester that are going to provide the jobs for the residents of these properties (and all the other developments in Colchester....)
I trust the infrastructure being in place means the trains from Colchester are going to improve because I can't see any developments or large companies moving to Colchester that are going to provide the jobs for the residents of these properties (and all the other developments in Colchester....) Scoot

2:23pm Fri 6 Dec 13

jut1972 says...

Its an open secret the cllrs will vote for any plan where they don't live. They can then claim to their residents look I hoisted houses on myland and stanway to protect our area. ...
Its an open secret the cllrs will vote for any plan where they don't live. They can then claim to their residents look I hoisted houses on myland and stanway to protect our area. ... jut1972

3:33pm Fri 6 Dec 13

TheEqualisers says...

jim_bo wrote:
800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.
diddly squat.....800 at fiveways.....500 behind comet/Costa coffee at tollgate.....100 at lake-lands with a possibility of about another 300 i have seen them scraping the land back.....and no its not chopper or Londo's 5th airport????that makes 1700 ish my old friend.....

mile end has got F**K all on us over at stanway.....
[quote][p][bold]jim_bo[/bold] wrote: 800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.[/p][/quote]diddly squat.....800 at fiveways.....500 behind comet/Costa coffee at tollgate.....100 at lake-lands with a possibility of about another 300 i have seen them scraping the land back.....and no its not chopper or Londo's 5th airport????that makes 1700 ish my old friend..... mile end has got F**K all on us over at stanway..... TheEqualisers

5:02pm Fri 6 Dec 13

co4 says...

TheEqualisers wrote:
jim_bo wrote:
800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.
diddly squat.....800 at fiveways.....500 behind comet/Costa coffee at tollgate.....100 at lake-lands with a possibility of about another 300 i have seen them scraping the land back.....and no its not chopper or Londo's 5th airport????that makes 1700 ish my old friend.....

mile end has got F**K all on us over at stanway.....
The 1600 in Mile End is in addition to the 300 at Northfields, 250 on Turner Rise, 50 on Groves Close, 250 on the old Woods site and a few more dotted around. Couple this with the absurd amount of traffic using North Station roundabout then I think Mile End "wins" hands down in your competition.
[quote][p][bold]TheEqualisers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim_bo[/bold] wrote: 800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.[/p][/quote]diddly squat.....800 at fiveways.....500 behind comet/Costa coffee at tollgate.....100 at lake-lands with a possibility of about another 300 i have seen them scraping the land back.....and no its not chopper or Londo's 5th airport????that makes 1700 ish my old friend..... mile end has got F**K all on us over at stanway.....[/p][/quote]The 1600 in Mile End is in addition to the 300 at Northfields, 250 on Turner Rise, 50 on Groves Close, 250 on the old Woods site and a few more dotted around. Couple this with the absurd amount of traffic using North Station roundabout then I think Mile End "wins" hands down in your competition. co4

7:05pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Hamiltonandy says...

Is there a housing plan? Why are derelict areas near the Hythe and bottom of East Hill left to drunks and druggies whilst Colchester is expanding in all directions into the countryside.
Is there a housing plan? Why are derelict areas near the Hythe and bottom of East Hill left to drunks and druggies whilst Colchester is expanding in all directions into the countryside. Hamiltonandy

7:35pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

co4 wrote:
TheEqualisers wrote:
jim_bo wrote:
800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.
diddly squat.....800 at fiveways.....500 behind comet/Costa coffee at tollgate.....100 at lake-lands with a possibility of about another 300 i have seen them scraping the land back.....and no its not chopper or Londo's 5th airport????that makes 1700 ish my old friend.....

mile end has got F**K all on us over at stanway.....
The 1600 in Mile End is in addition to the 300 at Northfields, 250 on Turner Rise, 50 on Groves Close, 250 on the old Woods site and a few more dotted around. Couple this with the absurd amount of traffic using North Station roundabout then I think Mile End "wins" hands down in your competition.
And of course 1500 on the old Sevealls Hospital site.
[quote][p][bold]co4[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheEqualisers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jim_bo[/bold] wrote: 800 is nothing, 1600 homes are going up in Milend with no infrastructure.[/p][/quote]diddly squat.....800 at fiveways.....500 behind comet/Costa coffee at tollgate.....100 at lake-lands with a possibility of about another 300 i have seen them scraping the land back.....and no its not chopper or Londo's 5th airport????that makes 1700 ish my old friend..... mile end has got F**K all on us over at stanway.....[/p][/quote]The 1600 in Mile End is in addition to the 300 at Northfields, 250 on Turner Rise, 50 on Groves Close, 250 on the old Woods site and a few more dotted around. Couple this with the absurd amount of traffic using North Station roundabout then I think Mile End "wins" hands down in your competition.[/p][/quote]And of course 1500 on the old Sevealls Hospital site. Say It As It Is OK?

7:40pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Hamiltonandy wrote:
Is there a housing plan? Why are derelict areas near the Hythe and bottom of East Hill left to drunks and druggies whilst Colchester is expanding in all directions into the countryside.
Why? Because for the developer a green field site provides greater profits and as someone else stated Councillors on the Planning committee are only interested in their own areas, rather than what is best for Colchester.
[quote][p][bold]Hamiltonandy[/bold] wrote: Is there a housing plan? Why are derelict areas near the Hythe and bottom of East Hill left to drunks and druggies whilst Colchester is expanding in all directions into the countryside.[/p][/quote]Why? Because for the developer a green field site provides greater profits and as someone else stated Councillors on the Planning committee are only interested in their own areas, rather than what is best for Colchester. Say It As It Is OK?

8:46pm Fri 6 Dec 13

hughie-s says...

“Where will all the cars go? Will the roads take however many cars 800 homes attract? Will children be able to get school places?”

What I want to know is where will the Tesco's go.
“Where will all the cars go? Will the roads take however many cars 800 homes attract? Will children be able to get school places?” What I want to know is where will the Tesco's go. hughie-s

8:58pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Suffolkcommuter says...

Colchester will die in traffic.
Colchester will die in traffic. Suffolkcommuter

9:16pm Fri 6 Dec 13

Suffolkcommuter says...

Commuting Suffolk to Colchester every day for the last 5 years.....

What about some proper planning about Colchester's roundabouts? How about a massive flyover over Westway roundabout, that will ease the avenue of Remembrance. Get rid of the bus lane on North Station Road reading South ( I sneak through as no cameras) and address the Southway roundabout heading off towards Lexdon. Another flyover on Greenstead Roundabout and extra lanes on Ipswich Road!! 2 mega bus lanes with 2 park and rides at opposite ends of the city.

Might not be to everyone's taste but something has to give! We have to address infrastructure somehow, or I will find a job elsewhere. So will others.

And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?)
Commuting Suffolk to Colchester every day for the last 5 years..... What about some proper planning about Colchester's roundabouts? How about a massive flyover over Westway roundabout, that will ease the avenue of Remembrance. Get rid of the bus lane on North Station Road reading South ( I sneak through as no cameras) and address the Southway roundabout heading off towards Lexdon. Another flyover on Greenstead Roundabout and extra lanes on Ipswich Road!! 2 mega bus lanes with 2 park and rides at opposite ends of the city. Might not be to everyone's taste but something has to give! We have to address infrastructure somehow, or I will find a job elsewhere. So will others. And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?) Suffolkcommuter

9:15am Sun 8 Dec 13

pinkteapot says...

I live in Mile End, near Northfields. Since people moved into Northfields, the mains water pressure has been too low for our shower to work 7am-7:30am due to high demand. It's been well under the minimum that Anglian Water are meant to supply. They say they are upgrading the main supply pipe to north Colchester "soon". Infrastructure should have been changed BEFORE the houses were finished!!
I live in Mile End, near Northfields. Since people moved into Northfields, the mains water pressure has been too low for our shower to work 7am-7:30am due to high demand. It's been well under the minimum that Anglian Water are meant to supply. They say they are upgrading the main supply pipe to north Colchester "soon". Infrastructure should have been changed BEFORE the houses were finished!! pinkteapot

11:41am Sun 8 Dec 13

JFFs brain says...

Dear Suffolkcommuter, "And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?"
Driving to Colchester, buy a van, those German cars are so Romford and lower the tone.
Dear Suffolkcommuter, "And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?" Driving to Colchester, buy a van, those German cars are so Romford and lower the tone. JFFs brain

5:20pm Sun 8 Dec 13

Suffolkcommuter says...

JFFs brain wrote:
Dear Suffolkcommuter, "And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?"
Driving to Colchester, buy a van, those German cars are so Romford and lower the tone.
Me thinks you have no sense of humour!
[quote][p][bold]JFFs brain[/bold] wrote: Dear Suffolkcommuter, "And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?" Driving to Colchester, buy a van, those German cars are so Romford and lower the tone.[/p][/quote]Me thinks you have no sense of humour! Suffolkcommuter

6:15pm Sun 8 Dec 13

JFFs brain says...

Suffolkcommuter wrote:
JFFs brain wrote:
Dear Suffolkcommuter, "And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?"
Driving to Colchester, buy a van, those German cars are so Romford and lower the tone.
Me thinks you have no sense of humour!
And methinks that you don't know what a "van" is in this context Buffy. Never mind, humour has degrees, yours seems to be decidedly second class.
[quote][p][bold]Suffolkcommuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JFFs brain[/bold] wrote: Dear Suffolkcommuter, "And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?" Driving to Colchester, buy a van, those German cars are so Romford and lower the tone.[/p][/quote]Me thinks you have no sense of humour![/p][/quote]And methinks that you don't know what a "van" is in this context Buffy. Never mind, humour has degrees, yours seems to be decidedly second class. JFFs brain

12:17am Mon 9 Dec 13

Assimilation says...

Have you all forgot the biggest NIMBY`s of all, Tendring Council, who wants to build 3000 plus homes on Clingoe Hill and 200 on the former Betts site?
Have you all forgot the biggest NIMBY`s of all, Tendring Council, who wants to build 3000 plus homes on Clingoe Hill and 200 on the former Betts site? Assimilation

12:52pm Mon 9 Dec 13

SAndrewss says...

It's NATIONAL policy to build more houses, people can fantasise about brown envelopes being passed around, councils not caring or councillors standing up against evil developers (read vote collecting), but the reality is that they all have their hands tied. Planners and members cannot refuse applications which follow national policies without a real evidence based reason for doing so, bevause the applications will simply be passed at appeal with great expense to the council. Central Government have actually issued warnings to councils to stop them from refusing applications which are within policy.
Councillors wrongly give their constituents the impression that through Localism they can block planning applications from being passed, and then once plans get approved they can stand up and say to everybody that they tried their best to stop it. Localism allows local people to have an input in to a proposal but it doesn't give them the power to stop development from occurring, not anymore.

Whether people like it or not, that's the situation we are in, no amount of hot air from Sir Bob & Co will change that.
It's NATIONAL policy to build more houses, people can fantasise about brown envelopes being passed around, councils not caring or councillors standing up against evil developers (read vote collecting), but the reality is that they all have their hands tied. Planners and members cannot refuse applications which follow national policies without a real evidence based reason for doing so, bevause the applications will simply be passed at appeal with great expense to the council. Central Government have actually issued warnings to councils to stop them from refusing applications which are within policy. Councillors wrongly give their constituents the impression that through Localism they can block planning applications from being passed, and then once plans get approved they can stand up and say to everybody that they tried their best to stop it. Localism allows local people to have an input in to a proposal but it doesn't give them the power to stop development from occurring, not anymore. Whether people like it or not, that's the situation we are in, no amount of hot air from Sir Bob & Co will change that. SAndrewss

2:02pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Scoot says...

suffolkcommuter, you have a point about the bus lane heading South on North Station Road. If the council had half an ounce of brain they would scrap that section once and for all. The amount of time people wanting to turn onto the Cowdray Avenue waste whilst sitting in traffic heading Southbound must add up to months each year. The other alternative to head into Suffolk or Eastwards is to head out to the Business park and then turn towards the Community Stadium and join the A12 there. However don't do it on a Tuesday. I tried it a few weeks ago and got stuck behind a cycle club who were using the road as if it was their own private velodrome.
suffolkcommuter, you have a point about the bus lane heading South on North Station Road. If the council had half an ounce of brain they would scrap that section once and for all. The amount of time people wanting to turn onto the Cowdray Avenue waste whilst sitting in traffic heading Southbound must add up to months each year. The other alternative to head into Suffolk or Eastwards is to head out to the Business park and then turn towards the Community Stadium and join the A12 there. However don't do it on a Tuesday. I tried it a few weeks ago and got stuck behind a cycle club who were using the road as if it was their own private velodrome. Scoot

2:52pm Mon 9 Dec 13

suzywright says...

Mersea Homes I see has an involvement in the Fruit farm, Clingoe Hill and Mile End. Seeing as they got Mile End through with support from Essex County Council I don't see why they won't get the others through - promoting the Wivenhoe Parish plan and extending it next to Greenstead, I'm sure the Wivenhoe sect are stoked about that move!!

It all depends on how deep a developers pocket is and how much cllrs want theirs filled.

Obviously backhanders and brown envelopes don't still go on in this day and age do they??
Mersea Homes I see has an involvement in the Fruit farm, Clingoe Hill and Mile End. Seeing as they got Mile End through with support from Essex County Council I don't see why they won't get the others through - promoting the Wivenhoe Parish plan and extending it next to Greenstead, I'm sure the Wivenhoe sect are stoked about that move!! It all depends on how deep a developers pocket is and how much cllrs want theirs filled. Obviously backhanders and brown envelopes don't still go on in this day and age do they?? suzywright

10:22pm Wed 11 Dec 13

Catchedicam says...

Suffolkcommuter wrote:
Commuting Suffolk to Colchester every day for the last 5 years.....

What about some proper planning about Colchester's roundabouts? How about a massive flyover over Westway roundabout, that will ease the avenue of Remembrance. Get rid of the bus lane on North Station Road reading South ( I sneak through as no cameras) and address the Southway roundabout heading off towards Lexdon. Another flyover on Greenstead Roundabout and extra lanes on Ipswich Road!! 2 mega bus lanes with 2 park and rides at opposite ends of the city.

Might not be to everyone's taste but something has to give! We have to address infrastructure somehow, or I will find a job elsewhere. So will others.

And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?)
get the train...
[quote][p][bold]Suffolkcommuter[/bold] wrote: Commuting Suffolk to Colchester every day for the last 5 years..... What about some proper planning about Colchester's roundabouts? How about a massive flyover over Westway roundabout, that will ease the avenue of Remembrance. Get rid of the bus lane on North Station Road reading South ( I sneak through as no cameras) and address the Southway roundabout heading off towards Lexdon. Another flyover on Greenstead Roundabout and extra lanes on Ipswich Road!! 2 mega bus lanes with 2 park and rides at opposite ends of the city. Might not be to everyone's taste but something has to give! We have to address infrastructure somehow, or I will find a job elsewhere. So will others. And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?)[/p][/quote]get the train... Catchedicam

11:28am Thu 12 Dec 13

romantic says...

Suffolkcommuter wrote:
Commuting Suffolk to Colchester every day for the last 5 years.....

What about some proper planning about Colchester's roundabouts? How about a massive flyover over Westway roundabout, that will ease the avenue of Remembrance. Get rid of the bus lane on North Station Road reading South ( I sneak through as no cameras) and address the Southway roundabout heading off towards Lexdon. Another flyover on Greenstead Roundabout and extra lanes on Ipswich Road!! 2 mega bus lanes with 2 park and rides at opposite ends of the city.

Might not be to everyone's taste but something has to give! We have to address infrastructure somehow, or I will find a job elsewhere. So will others.

And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?)
If you have done this for so many years, maybe you should consider moving to Colchester...

The fact is that the roads are clogged up with too many people making unnecessary journeys. Look at the difference in school holidays, and we get a feeling for how many kids are being driven to school. Many of them could walk! There are lots of journeys made which are less than a mile. Those people could walk or cycle. Yes, I know not everybody can, but plenty could.

In the 60s, I understand plans were on the cards which would have made Colchester like Birmingham: a ring of dual carriageways, with pedestrians channelled into grim subways. I'm a strapping lad, and I get nervous walking through those subways late at night, so who knows how nerve-wracking it is for lone girls, the elderly etc. Why should there be hideous concrete flyovers all over the place just because people refuse to not use cars? We have to move away from this idea that the car is king and everything should work around it. Go to many cities in Europe and they have far more people on buses, bikes or walking. We have to head that way.
[quote][p][bold]Suffolkcommuter[/bold] wrote: Commuting Suffolk to Colchester every day for the last 5 years..... What about some proper planning about Colchester's roundabouts? How about a massive flyover over Westway roundabout, that will ease the avenue of Remembrance. Get rid of the bus lane on North Station Road reading South ( I sneak through as no cameras) and address the Southway roundabout heading off towards Lexdon. Another flyover on Greenstead Roundabout and extra lanes on Ipswich Road!! 2 mega bus lanes with 2 park and rides at opposite ends of the city. Might not be to everyone's taste but something has to give! We have to address infrastructure somehow, or I will find a job elsewhere. So will others. And on the subject of bus lanes....(which torture Colchester - including the new bus stop on Osborne street which blocks traffic......why should poor people get to their destination quicker than me driving my Mercedes?)[/p][/quote]If you have done this for so many years, maybe you should consider moving to Colchester... The fact is that the roads are clogged up with too many people making unnecessary journeys. Look at the difference in school holidays, and we get a feeling for how many kids are being driven to school. Many of them could walk! There are lots of journeys made which are less than a mile. Those people could walk or cycle. Yes, I know not everybody can, but plenty could. In the 60s, I understand plans were on the cards which would have made Colchester like Birmingham: a ring of dual carriageways, with pedestrians channelled into grim subways. I'm a strapping lad, and I get nervous walking through those subways late at night, so who knows how nerve-wracking it is for lone girls, the elderly etc. Why should there be hideous concrete flyovers all over the place just because people refuse to not use cars? We have to move away from this idea that the car is king and everything should work around it. Go to many cities in Europe and they have far more people on buses, bikes or walking. We have to head that way. romantic

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