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Colchester High Street car ban launch branded chaotic
12:38pm Monday 18th March 2013 in News
AN 18-month trial of Colchester's High Street car ban has been branded "chaotic".
From 11am this morning, all vehicles bar buses, bikes, motorbikes and taxis were banned from turning right from Head Street onto High Street.
But 30 seconds after the clock struck 11, five cars and a van had already ignored the restrictions.
A few minutes later, officers from Colchester Council and Essex County Council started informing motorists about the restrictions before directing them down North Hill.
By 11.45am, at least nine motorists who had parked in what were previously disabled bays had been given tickets by traffic wardens.
A few minutes later, senior Colchester Council officers tore off the tickets from the windscreens, saying enforcement would not start until later this week.
County Hall workers started painting lines and restrictions on Middleborough and North Hill at around 10am this morning, before moving onto Head Street.
Michelle Reynolds, chairman of Colchester Retail/Business Association, said: "This is just chaotic."
See Tuesday's Gazette for a special report
Comments(54)
jammin
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12:45pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Shut the high street completely to all traffic and be done with it.
Wicky1
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12:50pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Garyrae
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12:51pm Mon 18 Mar 13
jammin wrote:This opinion is spouted quite a lot on this website and it makes no sense at all. How do you propose traffic accesses Queen St? Re-route all the way down the Southway, down Magdalen Street, then back up East Hill?
No, criticise from the start. The whole thing is a farce.
Shut the high street completely to all traffic and be done with it.
HARRY438
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1:03pm Mon 18 Mar 13
jut1972
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1:10pm Mon 18 Mar 13
rowhedge-dave
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1:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Who or what benefits from this scheme.
From reports, it is not the shop owners, or other businesses on the High Street.
Neither do shoppers benifit.
Pollution will only be moved from one area of the town to another.
And it will have cost the Council Tax payers thousands of pounds.
Sorry, I don't wish to appear obtuse, but I just can't see the point or purpose
Of this ill conceived scheme.
So, just who or what is this partial vehicle ban suppose to achieve?
TheCaptain
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1:22pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Surprised the lines and signs etc weren't all in place
Perhaps the first day is chaotic, but that what happens when things are changed. If this had all run smoothly I'm sure the same people would still be complaining.
Lets all just see how it goes.
Wicky1
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1:24pm Mon 18 Mar 13
rowhedge-dave
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1:39pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Wicky1 wrote:I take your point, but surely this is a case of many being inconvenienced for the sake of a few.
Presumably, with deterring cars from the town centre it'll allow the buses to run more reliably creating an incentive to hop on a bus, pushbike, m'bike to come into town. Folk can still drop off / pick up passengers nearby or park as normal.
The solution would be a dedicated tram system linked to a park and ride but a bit ambitious for Colchester?
The Hight Street could them be fully pedestrianised.
Come on CBC and ECC let's have some grown up thinking to resolve this problem.
Colonel Kurtz
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1:40pm Mon 18 Mar 13
But what I can’t see is why just cars are restricted. Why not make it a pedestrian only in the afternoon and have a proper market stands, craft markets, Christmas markets, cafe alfresco style. At the moment its half hearted and a lame effort and achieves nothing. How is this going to lure people back to the high street when its harder to get there in the first place before the park and ride is up and running
TheCaptain
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1:43pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Colonel Kurtz wrote:Where would the buses go?
North Hill was blocked by line painters this morning. 5 council workers in hi-vis were standing around in a group doing nothing. Looks like it was not given much thought.
But what I can’t see is why just cars are restricted. Why not make it a pedestrian only in the afternoon and have a proper market stands, craft markets, Christmas markets, cafe alfresco style. At the moment its half hearted and a lame effort and achieves nothing. How is this going to lure people back to the high street when its harder to get there in the first place before the park and ride is up and running
Colonel Kurtz
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2:24pm Mon 18 Mar 13
TheCaptain wrote:The new bus station?
Colonel Kurtz wrote:Where would the buses go?
North Hill was blocked by line painters this morning. 5 council workers in hi-vis were standing around in a group doing nothing. Looks like it was not given much thought.
But what I can’t see is why just cars are restricted. Why not make it a pedestrian only in the afternoon and have a proper market stands, craft markets, Christmas markets, cafe alfresco style. At the moment its half hearted and a lame effort and achieves nothing. How is this going to lure people back to the high street when its harder to get there in the first place before the park and ride is up and running
SOMETHING2SAY
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2:48pm Mon 18 Mar 13
executive
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3:03pm Mon 18 Mar 13
executive
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3:04pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Dazza2009
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4:19pm Mon 18 Mar 13
I have lived in this town for over 35 years & this is 1 of the worst planned ideas that has come up in that time.
What next will they come up with??? Make the whole town an every type of vehicle exclusion zone to kill the town centre totally & make it into a ghost shopping area???
SalmonHead
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4:27pm Mon 18 Mar 13
romantic
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4:30pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Dazza2009 wrote:Deliveries are not banned, they have to be done by 11.00. They do this in towns and cities around the country without a problem.
How can you ban everything from the high street??? Businesses need delieveries & without them then they will either close or move to some other location out of the town centre.
I have lived in this town for over 35 years & this is 1 of the worst planned ideas that has come up in that time.
What next will they come up with??? Make the whole town an every type of vehicle exclusion zone to kill the town centre totally & make it into a ghost shopping area???
I think this is a good idea, but like some others, would want to see it moving towards full pedestrianisation within these hours. People need to switch to public transport or park in the car parks around town, rather than assume that they should be able to drive to any point in town.
We need to give this a proper trial, not abandon it within the first 2 days.
Dazza2009
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4:42pm Mon 18 Mar 13
someguyoverthere
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4:43pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Quite honestly **** the council side ways with a barbed pole. Bunch of morons.
Dazza2009
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4:43pm Mon 18 Mar 13
mirokou
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4:56pm Mon 18 Mar 13
jammin wrote:here here. 100% or nothing . Banning only public cars pointless probably about 15%of all traffic anyway. Taxi rank in St Nicholas Square , nice tasteful tram/trolley bus ,hop on hop off, up and down the High street to get you to your buses or taxis . Pedestrians only between 10 and 6 everyday. This will not kill business. I avoid the High street like the plague , dirty noisy too much traffic, turn it into some place you want to be hey presto the shoppers return
No, criticise from the start. The whole thing is a farce.
Shut the high street completely to all traffic and be done with it.
mirokou
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5:05pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Butt road one lane ahead for Head street only ,dedicated right turn lane onto Southway. leave filter left in place.
Reverse flow Priory street for resident access and car park access.
Dutch quarter allow full access from St Peters right up to High street although no access onto High street between 10 and 6
Stockers83
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5:18pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Colonel Kurtz wrote:And how do you suggest they get to the bus station ???
TheCaptain wrote:The new bus station?
Colonel Kurtz wrote:Where would the buses go?
North Hill was blocked by line painters this morning. 5 council workers in hi-vis were standing around in a group doing nothing. Looks like it was not given much thought.
But what I can’t see is why just cars are restricted. Why not make it a pedestrian only in the afternoon and have a proper market stands, craft markets, Christmas markets, cafe alfresco style. At the moment its half hearted and a lame effort and achieves nothing. How is this going to lure people back to the high street when its harder to get there in the first place before the park and ride is up and running
Gee, Some people, Do you work for the council with thinking like that ?!?!?
Jess Jephcott
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5:39pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Stockers83
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5:40pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Jess Jephcott wrote:Some people have nothing better to moan about.....
It's early days yet. It is certainly nice to have a quiet High Street. I missed the traffic gridlock that was promised by the moaning minnies. Where was it?
jut1972
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7:15pm Mon 18 Mar 13
Jess Jephcott wrote:Head street apparently.
It's early days yet. It is certainly nice to have a quiet High Street. I missed the traffic gridlock that was promised by the moaning minnies. Where was it?
But no the lines are painted, the signs are up, fingers crossed tomorrow will be semi-chaotic.
25414nora
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8:48pm Mon 18 Mar 13
A little later, at 4.30 pm, I noted the high street was almost deserted, there were dossers in shop doorways, and rows and rows of busses with very few passengers...
So this is progress...?
Reginald47
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12:00am Tue 19 Mar 13
Eachtotheirown
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7:37am Tue 19 Mar 13
troggymole
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9:25am Tue 19 Mar 13
someguyoverthere
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10:10am Tue 19 Mar 13
someguyoverthere
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10:33am Tue 19 Mar 13
Reginald47 wrote:Ironic seeing as it's busses that cause the pollution. Our fleet of over priced privies are far from environmentally friendly
I could breath in the High St at 5pm. Wonderful!
bev52
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11:55am Tue 19 Mar 13
Colchester is mean't to be a market town but at the moment you have to go searching for the stalls all over the place and I for one don't bother anymore.
If it was in the High Street together it would bring in more traders and more public would come for market days, bringing back much needed trade to the High Street.
Reginald47
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12:49pm Tue 19 Mar 13
G.Speel
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3:41pm Tue 19 Mar 13
HARRY438
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3:45pm Tue 19 Mar 13
jut1972 wrote:West Stockwell st. Is now the early morning rat run for vans coming into town. Why is it with rat runs that they all put their foot down as tho they have stolen the motor?
Jess Jephcott wrote:Head street apparently.
It's early days yet. It is certainly nice to have a quiet High Street. I missed the traffic gridlock that was promised by the moaning minnies. Where was it?
But no the lines are painted, the signs are up, fingers crossed tomorrow will be semi-chaotic.
omgwtfbbq
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8:12pm Tue 19 Mar 13
G.Speel wrote:it only works in other towns because they have more roads that can be used instead and blue badge holders are not banned.
It was only chaotic because people did not make allowance for it when planning their journey into Colchester. All you have to do is engage your brain and think about it. Give it time and you will soon get used to it and it will work well as it does elsewhere. I have to say though that bikes and motorcycles should not be allowed in the High Street either.
It will never work in Colchester as there isn't enough other routes and the routes that are there are blocked by people ignoring keep clear signs, people queue jumping using the wrong lanes causing bottle necks, and some even making extra lanes where none exist.
elking
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8:51pm Tue 19 Mar 13
cjking
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9:36pm Tue 19 Mar 13
I asked councillor Derrick Louis to apply to research, analysis and statistical evidence that these proposals at the expense of the council tax payer have a beneficial or detrimental effect upon businesses on the High Street in addition to understanding potential traffic changes to orbital roads during the consultation period, but this was ignored.
Anyone who knows anything about the town of Colchester can clearly see the vast majority of the Colchester town centre is already pedestrianised and is a wonderful environment to shop. Will it really make that much difference to do the same to the High Street?
All in all, I think a one month trial would be more sensible than 18 months and, in any case, the whole proposal should have been based on evidence and analysis rather than someone's whim.
QuarpQuarp
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11:37am Wed 20 Mar 13
geofferz1
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1:40pm Wed 20 Mar 13
fact
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2:13pm Wed 20 Mar 13
cjking
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8:50pm Wed 20 Mar 13
fact wrote:I agree with your comments about the High Steet, but Headgate is now a complete disaster and gridlocked. Bus stops are on the left and buses are trying to move from the left side of Headgate to the right to head down the high street. Other vehicles such as residents and business are arriving on the right side of Headgate and attempting to move left to head down North Hill. The result is a melting pot of gridlocked drivers at odds with each other.
In town a while back, High Street & Head Street was at a standstill blocked with traffic. An emergency vehicle, blue lights and siren blaring couldn't go any where as cars couldn't move to let it past. Hopefully this makes it easier for emergency vehicles. Also, I don't drive, but what else annoys me about all this, is that many drivers are ignoring the road closure sign, and still progress down the high street. They should be fined and told to take an urgent eye test. If they can't read that sort of sign, what other road signs can't they read. All road signs need to be obeyed.
someguyoverthere
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10:55am Thu 21 Mar 13
fact wrote:I remember that it was caused by a broken down bus at Queen Street near where it connects to the high street. Hardly cars faults though is it?
In town a while back, High Street & Head Street was at a standstill blocked with traffic. An emergency vehicle, blue lights and siren blaring couldn't go any where as cars couldn't move to let it past. Hopefully this makes it easier for emergency vehicles. Also, I don't drive, but what else annoys me about all this, is that many drivers are ignoring the road closure sign, and still progress down the high street. They should be fined and told to take an urgent eye test. If they can't read that sort of sign, what other road signs can't they read. All road signs need to be obeyed.
Eachtotheirown
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9:31pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Jess Jephcott
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12:40pm Fri 22 Mar 13
D_Q_Resident
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2:17pm Sat 23 Mar 13
Some commenters seem to have hijacked the issue and created a them and us situation between car drivers and pedestrians.
I live in West Stockwell St and do not own a car.Most of the street is narrow and residential with the majority of businesses situated up near the High St. We now have delivery vans, and a steady flow of traffic up and down from 6.30 a.m. every morning so far. This is adversely affecting air quality, noise pollution and road safety for every resident. These roads are just not suitable for this volume of traffic, as the potholes show.
I am not opposed to the scheme as a whole but having the bollards in place only between 11-6, in line with the High St restrictions, would surely make sense.
jeffbridges
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11:46pm Sat 23 Mar 13
this-
"We now have delivery vans, and a steady flow of traffic up and down from 6.30 a.m. every morning so far. This is adversely affecting air quality, noise pollution and road safety for every resident.""
ask J J`s point of view on your comments.
HARRY438
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8:49am Sun 24 Mar 13
I wonder how Pizza Express are coping with deliveries?For years 20+ton trucks parked on the pavement unloading at regular intervals in a week.Now they are too long for the corner of Northgate St. & W/S St.
Catchedicam
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11:51am Sun 24 Mar 13
Lets make Colchester welcoming to visitors instead of safety hazard.
RetiredVal
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8:23pm Sun 24 Mar 13
HARRY438
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8:57pm Sun 24 Mar 13
RetiredVal wrote:Retail parks? With their cars?
I visited Colchester High Street again today. I know the cars are banned, but where are the people?
Boris says...
12:42pm Mon 18 Mar 13