Murder investigation launched in Colchester (From Essex County Standard)

Sadly this is becoming a normal occurrance.
No matter how much press is out there to try to stop this it will always happen.
I feel for the family of the boy that has been stabbed and hope they get the justice they deserve.

Knives yet again, time to bring back the thorough stop and search!

pin4apple wrote:
Sadly this is becoming a normal occurrance.
No matter how much press is out there to try to stop this it will always happen.
I feel for the family of the boy that has been stabbed and hope they get the justice they deserve.

I agree pin4apple, there will always be these sort of people in the world who wouldn't think twice about putting a knife in someone. It's about time they were locked away for life without parole. Who wants these people walking around after 10 years? Lock them away and keep them away from decent people

peachey wrote:

pin4apple wrote:
Sadly this is becoming a normal occurrance.
No matter how much press is out there to try to stop this it will always happen.
I feel for the family of the boy that has been stabbed and hope they get the justice they deserve.

I agree pin4apple, there will always be these sort of people in the world who wouldn't think twice about putting a knife in someone. It's about time they were locked away for life without parole. Who wants these people walking around after 10 years? Lock them away and keep them away from decent people

10 years??? more like 2-3 years. You get more of a sentence for not paying council tax these days. The government could not care less about safety in our community - it costs too much for them to build the extra prisons required and lets face it prison these days is more akind to a 3 star hotel. Bring back flogging, and name and shame these individuals.

venturoboy wrote:

peachey wrote:

pin4apple wrote:
Sadly this is becoming a normal occurrance.
No matter how much press is out there to try to stop this it will always happen.
I feel for the family of the boy that has been stabbed and hope they get the justice they deserve.

I agree pin4apple, there will always be these sort of people in the world who wouldn't think twice about putting a knife in someone. It's about time they were locked away for life without parole. Who wants these people walking around after 10 years? Lock them away and keep them away from decent people

10 years??? more like 2-3 years. You get more of a sentence for not paying council tax these days. The government could not care less about safety in our community - it costs too much for them to build the extra prisons required and lets face it prison these days is more akind to a 3 star hotel. Bring back flogging, and name and shame these individuals.

I am not sure thats the point Venturoboy. First of all, they don't know who did this. Secondly, what their motive was. Thirdly, any other facts such as self defence etc. By reciting the sun newspapers views on stuff like this means nothing to anyone.

The sad reality is that a young man has lost his life and left a lot of family and friends. These family and friends will probably never come to terms with this. The men/women who did this may also have familys who will no doubt be let down and face hard times because of this incident.

If enough effort was put into place by the government and police to have more gun/knife amnesty's then we might find that this culture would slow down.

venturoboy wrote:

peachey wrote:

pin4apple wrote:
Sadly this is becoming a normal occurrance.
No matter how much press is out there to try to stop this it will always happen.
I feel for the family of the boy that has been stabbed and hope they get the justice they deserve.

I agree pin4apple, there will always be these sort of people in the world who wouldn't think twice about putting a knife in someone. It's about time they were locked away for life without parole. Who wants these people walking around after 10 years? Lock them away and keep them away from decent people

10 years??? more like 2-3 years. You get more of a sentence for not paying council tax these days. The government could not care less about safety in our community - it costs too much for them to build the extra prisons required and lets face it prison these days is more akind to a 3 star hotel. Bring back flogging, and name and shame these individuals.

10 years/2-3 years, whatever the sentence, they shouldn't walk the streets again. Anyone that is willing to go to someone's home and plunge a knife into a fellow human being doesn't deserve freedom

These people should not be allowed to walk the street again. This town is getting worse for knife crimes.

Just wish these stupid people could see the damage that a knife does to the people that have to clear this mess up.

But what ever happened to the old days when a little punch up solved everything as opposed to the tactics of weapons today. At least back then people were able to go home and live another day.

Total lack of respect for anything nowadays....... including life itself.

Cant be sure, just yet, but this has all the hallmarks of a drug related crime, and there seems to be just no answer.

Todays drug culture is an absolute curse on society, and those who indulge, just dont think, or care about the consequences.

'Yes' in the old days we had our young offenders, the teds in the fifties, mods & rockers etc etc, but nothing like this.

Maybe there's a case for national service, and bringing back Borstal training..

National service seems like the best solution as this way at least a lot of the older traditions such as respect would be bought back to the disorderly youths we have today where they only the the job centre to look forward to if college or after school tuition are not possible.

But borstal training I would think would be a good idea.

Perhaps even the local policeman having the option for the clip round the ear like yesteryear would be a healthy deterrent.

super waluigi says...
12:22pm Sat 9 Mar 13

venturoboy wrote:
peachey wrote:
pin4apple wrote:
Sadly this is becoming a normal occurrance.
No matter how much press is out there to try to stop this it will always happen.
I feel for the family of the boy that has been stabbed and hope they get the justice they deserve.
I agree pin4apple, there will always be these sort of people in the world who wouldn't think twice about putting a knife in someone. It's about time they were locked away for life without parole. Who wants these people walking around after 10 years? Lock them away and keep them away from decent people
10 years??? more like 2-3 years. You get more of a sentence for not paying council tax these days. The government could not care less about safety in our community - it costs too much for them to build the extra prisons required and lets face it prison these days is more akind to a 3 star hotel. Bring back flogging, and name and shame these individuals.
I am not sure thats the point Venturoboy. First of all, they don't know who did this. Secondly, what their motive was. Thirdly, any other facts such as self defence etc. By reciting the sun newspapers views on stuff like this means nothing to anyone.

The sad reality is that a young man has lost his life and left a lot of family and friends. These family and friends will probably never come to terms with this. The men/women who did this may also have familys who will no doubt be let down and face hard times because of this incident.

If enough effort was put into place by the government and police to have more gun/knife amnesty's then we might find that this culture would slow down.

super walugui
how on earth can you think self defence comes into this these people have turned up to a flat kicked thru the door equipped with a knife amongest other weapons and taken the life of my friend.no prison sentence will justify this had his whole life ahead of him music was his passion so talented and loved by us all.dont think i can mention his name at the moment but RIP BUDDY you will never be forgotten another mate gone to soon when will it all stop to many soldiers lost :'( xx

Lets hope the f******(s).are found soon !

These things happen and will continue to happen all because the British public are to gutless to do anything about it, Essex Police havn't solved the last murder in Colchester yet and all the goverment can come up with is hug a hoodie, our soldiers go off to fight in Afghanistan when the real terrorism is on our streets in fact I think my son or daughter would be safer there than a night out in the UK, mark my words in a few months time maybe even sooner we will have a simular story on the streets of Colchester and we will be told that these things are a rare occurance bullshi*

What a stupid comment. Its not unsafe in Colchester. The guy who was murdered was targeted. Only he and the two killers will know why. It wasnt a random murder. No idea what soldiers has to do with it anyway.

The police have released far more detail than is mentioned here in this short news piece.

Too many questions to answer...... If you know the man who sadly lost his life on a personal level, then I am sorry for your loss. 26 is a very young age.

In answer to your question. Many people lose there life in self defence. Many people carry knifes as a precaution to counter attack and never realise that they cannot use it and if anything, they give a potential attacker a weapon.

As things go, you are correct. A door was kicked in, guns and knives where carried and the poor man did not even live there. But no one knew this when they were posting about what should happen to the attackers. It amazes me how many people will assume one knife attack is the same as the next. I only meant that there was more to solving a murder crime than just hanging the culprit.

Joker50 wrote:
These things happen and will continue to happen all because the British public are to gutless to do anything about it, Essex Police havn't solved the last murder in Colchester yet and all the goverment can come up with is hug a hoodie, our soldiers go off to fight in Afghanistan when the real terrorism is on our streets in fact I think my son or daughter would be safer there than a night out in the UK, mark my words in a few months time maybe even sooner we will have a simular story on the streets of Colchester and we will be told that these things are a rare occurance bullshi*

Ok you send your children to wander round Kabul for a few days and let us know how it goes.

A tragic loss of life but as mentioned before this wasn't a random attack this chap was targeted i think in coming week some interesting facts will emerge about this case.

Joker50 wrote:
These things happen and will continue to happen all because the British public are to gutless to do anything about it, Essex Police havn't solved the last murder in Colchester yet and all the goverment can come up with is hug a hoodie, our soldiers go off to fight in Afghanistan when the real terrorism is on our streets in fact I think my son or daughter would be safer there than a night out in the UK, mark my words in a few months time maybe even sooner we will have a simular story on the streets of Colchester and we will be told that these things are a rare occurance bullshi*

You idiot.

So war is a safer place than Colchester????

Everyone who wears a hoodie is a bad person????

The British public are gutless????

Not too many generalising stories told on your behalf is there!!!!

You really should think before typing.

The sad thing is another person has lost their life, and the people who did this have no worry's about what they have done because the punishment will not fit the crime, and it seems that colchester get's worse every year i think police councils should sit down and start to work on giving heavier sentences and start knocking down door's and getting the crap element sorted out, it will only get worse.

The fact that the deceased mans friend refer to him as a "soldier" is a bit concerning.

I believe the term soldier is used widely amongst the urban music scene.

I see.

Fair enough.

Sounds like one of the culprits has been arrested.

Joker50 wrote:
These things happen and will continue to happen all because the British public are to gutless to do anything about it, Essex Police havn't solved the last murder in Colchester yet and all the goverment can come up with is hug a hoodie, our soldiers go off to fight in Afghanistan when the real terrorism is on our streets in fact I think my son or daughter would be safer there than a night out in the UK, mark my words in a few months time maybe even sooner we will have a simular story on the streets of Colchester and we will be told that these things are a rare occurance bullshi*

How do you gauge frequent or rare? 1 metre is far for an ant but not an elephant.

Colchester is a safe town, it is very very unlikely you will ever encounter someone armed with a knife. This attack was premeditated, the victim and attackers knew each other. Nothing about it was random.

After the serial killings in Ipswich you wouldn't think that everyone in Ipswich was a serial killer and leave the town in fear for your life. You need to get some perspective, I fear you may be clogging your small mind with too many fear mongering articles from the gutter press.