Trial car ban to start in March

A YEAR-LONG trial banning cars from Colchester High Street will start on Sunday, March 17.

All vehicles bar buses, taxis, bikes and motorbikes will be restricted from the road between 11am and 6pm.

The controversial experiment, launched by Essex County Council and Colchester Council, will be monitored by a working group including traders and residents.

But unless the concerns of traders, who will not be able to use delivery vehicles during the day, are addressed, a public inquiry will need to be held before the much-anticipated changes are made permanent.

See Tuesday's Gazette for the full story.

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3:49pm Mon 21 Jan 13

FormerColchesterGirl says...

I look forward to seeing this actually in action, I mean isn't this the same proposal that was in place for April, September and November last year?
I look forward to seeing this actually in action, I mean isn't this the same proposal that was in place for April, September and November last year? FormerColchesterGirl

4:01pm Mon 21 Jan 13

TheCaptain says...

strangely last week this paper said it wouldn't happen before 2014
strangely last week this paper said it wouldn't happen before 2014 TheCaptain

4:22pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Jess Jephcott says...

What a waste of time? Ban all motorised vehicles or none at all. Any vehicle is a danger to pedestrians, so what is the point?
What a waste of time? Ban all motorised vehicles or none at all. Any vehicle is a danger to pedestrians, so what is the point? Jess Jephcott

4:47pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Make the High Street either open to all traffic or close it to to all. Only closing it to certain motorists just won't work.

However, this decision is most probably a good reason to visit Ipswich or Chelmsford and use their Park and Ride to enhance your shopping experience, because Colchester will be closed.
Make the High Street either open to all traffic or close it to to all. Only closing it to certain motorists just won't work. However, this decision is most probably a good reason to visit Ipswich or Chelmsford and use their Park and Ride to enhance your shopping experience, because Colchester will be closed. Say It As It Is OK?

4:53pm Mon 21 Jan 13

romantic says...

Good. Let´s give it a chance and see if it works. Shops have until 1100 to get deliveries in, which I am sure can be arranged. It is still a bit of a compromise. Personally, I´d like to see it fully pedestrianised, but I do recognise this would involve some changes, especially with regard to the bus routes.

But do let the trial run for a good time. Of course, in the first week or two, there will be people moaning about it, but it has to be given time to bed in before any judgment is made. They say a year. I think we should know within 6 months if it has worked.
Good. Let´s give it a chance and see if it works. Shops have until 1100 to get deliveries in, which I am sure can be arranged. It is still a bit of a compromise. Personally, I´d like to see it fully pedestrianised, but I do recognise this would involve some changes, especially with regard to the bus routes. But do let the trial run for a good time. Of course, in the first week or two, there will be people moaning about it, but it has to be given time to bed in before any judgment is made. They say a year. I think we should know within 6 months if it has worked. romantic

5:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

wellnow says...

I'm with jess on this one.I thought the idea was to pedestrianise the high street, not see how long we can p*** of the long suffering motorist for.
I'm with jess on this one.I thought the idea was to pedestrianise the high street, not see how long we can p*** of the long suffering motorist for. wellnow

6:04pm Mon 21 Jan 13

johnny64 says...

althought i do not live in colchester most of my day is delivering medical to the chemist in and around town center,this means that in the afternoon will not be able to get to town centre and as for all the traffic to go up east hill into queen street is a joke!
althought i do not live in colchester most of my day is delivering medical to the chemist in and around town center,this means that in the afternoon will not be able to get to town centre and as for all the traffic to go up east hill into queen street is a joke! johnny64

6:06pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Grabber says...

Why let Motorcycles down there ?
And why not start the ban at 10 am that gives plenty of time for deliveries.
Why let Motorcycles down there ? And why not start the ban at 10 am that gives plenty of time for deliveries. Grabber

6:20pm Mon 21 Jan 13

johnny64 says...

the shops in town centres are allready dying this ban will just give a push. most towns have better road structure than colchester so they can ban all traffic, and as to say 10 is a ok time is just rubbish. most of your time is sitting in colchester taffic jams because this council like most councils can get nothing right!!
the shops in town centres are allready dying this ban will just give a push. most towns have better road structure than colchester so they can ban all traffic, and as to say 10 is a ok time is just rubbish. most of your time is sitting in colchester taffic jams because this council like most councils can get nothing right!! johnny64

7:18pm Mon 21 Jan 13

RB, Lexden says...

I can think of at least three businesses
in or off the High Street which will be
adversely affected by this plan.
It is not cars which should be banned
from the High Street: it is councillors.
In this town,they are the problem,not
the solution.
I can think of at least three businesses in or off the High Street which will be adversely affected by this plan. It is not cars which should be banned from the High Street: it is councillors. In this town,they are the problem,not the solution. RB, Lexden

7:33pm Mon 21 Jan 13

johnny64 says...

well said rb. its not the cars that polute the town have you seen the state of the buses!!!
well said rb. its not the cars that polute the town have you seen the state of the buses!!! johnny64

7:48pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Feisty CBC says...

Does anyone really go to Chelmsford or Ipswich instead of town? I think not.
Does anyone really go to Chelmsford or Ipswich instead of town? I think not. Feisty CBC

7:58pm Mon 21 Jan 13

rowhedge-dave says...

What a stupid half-baked idea,

So how is that supposed to work, any one with half a brain can see the flaws in the plan!

For example, what happens to the traffic coming up North Hill, or will it now become a one-way street?

As I see it, this is sticky tape solution to years or poor traffic planning within the town.

All it will do is cause a problem/s elsewhere.

A poor plan that is doomed before it even starts and I suspect at a huge financial cost to the town.

Bonkers!
What a stupid half-baked idea, So how is that supposed to work, any one with half a brain can see the flaws in the plan! For example, what happens to the traffic coming up North Hill, or will it now become a one-way street? As I see it, this is sticky tape solution to years or poor traffic planning within the town. All it will do is cause a problem/s elsewhere. A poor plan that is doomed before it even starts and I suspect at a huge financial cost to the town. Bonkers! rowhedge-dave

8:20pm Mon 21 Jan 13

25414nora says...

It's fact, todays shoppers demand the convenience of the car, no one wants to lug shopping bags, and large purchases on the bus, thats why out of town outlets with free parking are taking over.

Closing off high street, can only speed up the process.

One doesn't have to be an A student to envisage: the approach roads to access the town, and car parks, will be choc-a-block..

An empty high street will be of absolutely no gain for buss'es, and taxi's..Or shops..
It's fact, todays shoppers demand the convenience of the car, no one wants to lug shopping bags, and large purchases on the bus, thats why out of town outlets with free parking are taking over. Closing off high street, can only speed up the process. One doesn't have to be an A student to envisage: the approach roads to access the town, and car parks, will be choc-a-block.. An empty high street will be of absolutely no gain for buss'es, and taxi's..Or shops.. 25414nora

10:38pm Mon 21 Jan 13

taylor08 says...

what about the residents in the dutch quarter? some of the roads are only accessible via the High Street as they are 1 way streets. will these be changed to both ways?
what about the residents in the dutch quarter? some of the roads are only accessible via the High Street as they are 1 way streets. will these be changed to both ways? taylor08

10:51pm Mon 21 Jan 13

Hamiltonandy says...

The elected dictatorship have decided and they are not interested in the public's views now, a year's time or ever. Fortunately shoppers have a choice and can shop out of town. Retail traders can move to other towns. Another "brilliant" idea from the team who brought you the Visual Arts Facility, the phantom "cultural quarter" and the new "bus station".
The elected dictatorship have decided and they are not interested in the public's views now, a year's time or ever. Fortunately shoppers have a choice and can shop out of town. Retail traders can move to other towns. Another "brilliant" idea from the team who brought you the Visual Arts Facility, the phantom "cultural quarter" and the new "bus station". Hamiltonandy

11:19pm Mon 21 Jan 13

theequaliser1 says...

good shut the high st give it a try then talk about afterwards simple
good shut the high st give it a try then talk about afterwards simple theequaliser1

11:23pm Mon 21 Jan 13

SamEssex says...

Well this idea is stupid. Also those going on about deliveries yes we can get a guaranteed morning delivery slot it just costs up to an extra 15-50 quid depending on the size of the delivery.
Well this idea is stupid. Also those going on about deliveries yes we can get a guaranteed morning delivery slot it just costs up to an extra 15-50 quid depending on the size of the delivery. SamEssex

12:07am Tue 22 Jan 13

Simon Taylor says...

Seems sensible to me.
Seems sensible to me. Simon Taylor

12:26am Tue 22 Jan 13

roger bacon says...

What will happens when we get days like we have had recently with all the snow. What will happens if the delivery vans cannot get to the town centre before 11.00 am. We will have shops with nothing to sell but it will not make much difference as people will not be able to get into town.
What will happens when we get days like we have had recently with all the snow. What will happens if the delivery vans cannot get to the town centre before 11.00 am. We will have shops with nothing to sell but it will not make much difference as people will not be able to get into town. roger bacon

12:30am Tue 22 Jan 13

Boris says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
What a waste of time? Ban all motorised vehicles or none at all. Any vehicle is a danger to pedestrians, so what is the point?
So, no fire engines or ambulances, then.
How daft can you get?
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: What a waste of time? Ban all motorised vehicles or none at all. Any vehicle is a danger to pedestrians, so what is the point?[/p][/quote]So, no fire engines or ambulances, then. How daft can you get? Boris

1:10am Tue 22 Jan 13

EssexRocks1981 says...

This is why the Car Parks have been changed. To make up for for the lack of disabled access to the High Street. This has been agreed for months regardless of anyone who has opposed.
This is why the Car Parks have been changed. To make up for for the lack of disabled access to the High Street. This has been agreed for months regardless of anyone who has opposed. EssexRocks1981

8:09am Tue 22 Jan 13

Douglas Park says...

rowhedge-dave wrote:
What a stupid half-baked idea,

So how is that supposed to work, any one with half a brain can see the flaws in the plan!

For example, what happens to the traffic coming up North Hill, or will it now become a one-way street?

As I see it, this is sticky tape solution to years or poor traffic planning within the town.

All it will do is cause a problem/s elsewhere.

A poor plan that is doomed before it even starts and I suspect at a huge financial cost to the town.

Bonkers!
Also nobody's mentioned how much this is going to cost CBC to implement - the new signage required; informing all residents, as well as advertising the changes in neighbouring local press, etc.

About 80% of Colchester town centre is pedestrianised. the same arguments made against traffic in the High St could also be applied to traffic on Head St, St.Johns St, Queens St, etc. Are we to ban cars here too?

Like it or not, the High Street is a main axis in the one-way inner-thoroughfare that has been created. I'm not sure there are that many private cars who use the High St between 11am and 6pm. It's the buses that are the biggest polluters and most precarious road users. However, the buses are essential to bring residents to and from the town and we've seen the furore in the press when bus-stops are relocated and/or removed.

There is no ideal solution, but let's wait and see the outcome of this trial. Let the chaos and confusion commence!
[quote][p][bold]rowhedge-dave[/bold] wrote: What a stupid half-baked idea, So how is that supposed to work, any one with half a brain can see the flaws in the plan! For example, what happens to the traffic coming up North Hill, or will it now become a one-way street? As I see it, this is sticky tape solution to years or poor traffic planning within the town. All it will do is cause a problem/s elsewhere. A poor plan that is doomed before it even starts and I suspect at a huge financial cost to the town. Bonkers![/p][/quote]Also nobody's mentioned how much this is going to cost CBC to implement - the new signage required; informing all residents, as well as advertising the changes in neighbouring local press, etc. About 80% of Colchester town centre is pedestrianised. the same arguments made against traffic in the High St could also be applied to traffic on Head St, St.Johns St, Queens St, etc. Are we to ban cars here too? Like it or not, the High Street is a main axis in the one-way inner-thoroughfare that has been created. I'm not sure there are that many private cars who use the High St between 11am and 6pm. It's the buses that are the biggest polluters and most precarious road users. However, the buses are essential to bring residents to and from the town and we've seen the furore in the press when bus-stops are relocated and/or removed. There is no ideal solution, but let's wait and see the outcome of this trial. Let the chaos and confusion commence! Douglas Park

8:33am Tue 22 Jan 13

Bobby Walker says...

I don't think this trial will work because it has all the drawbacks with none of the advantages.
The high street would be better and more attractive to visitors if it were fully pedestrianised, but people aren't going to use the added space if there are still vehicles using the road.
Perhaps there is some sort of grand plan here to get people used to a change to pedestrianisation. That wouldn't be very honest but I think what has really happened here is a soggy fudge that will please nobody.
I don't think this trial will work because it has all the drawbacks with none of the advantages. The high street would be better and more attractive to visitors if it were fully pedestrianised, but people aren't going to use the added space if there are still vehicles using the road. Perhaps there is some sort of grand plan here to get people used to a change to pedestrianisation. That wouldn't be very honest but I think what has really happened here is a soggy fudge that will please nobody. Bobby Walker

9:03am Tue 22 Jan 13

TheCaptain says...

I note it's the same people complaining about this as those who said the new bus arrangements would cause havoc.

Well it hasn't. There are lots of cars in the town centre during the day.Hopefully banning them will make public transport flow better.

Lets give it a go and if fails then revert and Andy can say "I told you so".
I note it's the same people complaining about this as those who said the new bus arrangements would cause havoc. Well it hasn't. There are lots of cars in the town centre during the day.Hopefully banning them will make public transport flow better. Lets give it a go and if fails then revert and Andy can say "I told you so". TheCaptain

9:16am Tue 22 Jan 13

wellnow says...

What dosen't one off us see a difference between ordinary and emergency.think before you send your undeserved vitriol.
What dosen't one off us see a difference between ordinary and emergency.think before you send your undeserved vitriol. wellnow

11:04am Tue 22 Jan 13

RS2011 says...

Many other towns did this years ago and despite early problems have made it succeed. Surely it's a good idea to make the high street an attractive environment for pedestrians who make up the vast majority of people who visit shops and businesses in the area.
Many other towns did this years ago and despite early problems have made it succeed. Surely it's a good idea to make the high street an attractive environment for pedestrians who make up the vast majority of people who visit shops and businesses in the area. RS2011

11:31am Tue 22 Jan 13

bev52 says...

Why are motorbikes going to still be allowed? I would have said they were the worst thing to allow. Have you seen the speed they go down the High Street now, with cars in their way. With no cars to slow them they will be knocking people over like skittles.
Why are motorbikes going to still be allowed? I would have said they were the worst thing to allow. Have you seen the speed they go down the High Street now, with cars in their way. With no cars to slow them they will be knocking people over like skittles. bev52

6:13pm Tue 22 Jan 13

jim_bo says...

Whilst i agree that its a terrible idea.

Stand at the side of the road and watch how many cars actually use the High st.
Not many, why cos the constant stopping by the traffic lights make it a very boring drive.

Honestly, when was the last time you drove down the High St, me probably a year ago to look at the Christmas lights with an elderly relative. Otherwise i avoid it like the plague.
Whilst i agree that its a terrible idea. Stand at the side of the road and watch how many cars actually use the High st. Not many, why cos the constant stopping by the traffic lights make it a very boring drive. Honestly, when was the last time you drove down the High St, me probably a year ago to look at the Christmas lights with an elderly relative. Otherwise i avoid it like the plague. jim_bo

6:26pm Tue 22 Jan 13

comeonyouirons says...

I think some people are missing the word 'Trial'. Let's see what happens. But I do think a lot of shops won't be able to use their supplier of choice, as logistically the deliveries can't be made before 11am and after 6pm.
I think some people are missing the word 'Trial'. Let's see what happens. But I do think a lot of shops won't be able to use their supplier of choice, as logistically the deliveries can't be made before 11am and after 6pm. comeonyouirons

6:52pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Wicky1 says...

Excellent! I'm happy as a motorcyclist and a cyclist to have free access to the town centre. Perhaps other folk need to change their mode of transport, rather than moaning.
Excellent! I'm happy as a motorcyclist and a cyclist to have free access to the town centre. Perhaps other folk need to change their mode of transport, rather than moaning. Wicky1

7:22pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Carlosfandangles says...

Wow - sounds a great idea.......ok, I am being sarcastic. The principle of taking away the traffic is fine but where is it going to go? I am sure those who are wandering by the charity shops and banks on the High Street will have a great time until they want to go home and are stuck in a queue on Brook Street for ages.
Half a ban is no good to all - it will reduce the number of cars but will not enhance a shopping experience as you will still have to watch out for a bus, cyclist or motorcyclist. Seems pointless to me.
Are the local councillors after yet another legacy decision that will define their term in office? Slaps on the back all round, "I did that" kind of thing.

Again, in principle fine but only if you have adequate provision with alternative routes - Brook Street will not cope!!!
Wow - sounds a great idea.......ok, I am being sarcastic. The principle of taking away the traffic is fine but where is it going to go? I am sure those who are wandering by the charity shops and banks on the High Street will have a great time until they want to go home and are stuck in a queue on Brook Street for ages. Half a ban is no good to all - it will reduce the number of cars but will not enhance a shopping experience as you will still have to watch out for a bus, cyclist or motorcyclist. Seems pointless to me. Are the local councillors after yet another legacy decision that will define their term in office? Slaps on the back all round, "I did that" kind of thing. Again, in principle fine but only if you have adequate provision with alternative routes - Brook Street will not cope!!! Carlosfandangles

8:21pm Tue 22 Jan 13

mirokou says...

When i spoke to one of the Regen people I was told they were closing the High street making Head street 2 way again and reversing the flow on Queen street, allowing access from Southway. Otherwise just closing the High street would cause a lot of local traffic issues.
When i spoke to one of the Regen people I was told they were closing the High street making Head street 2 way again and reversing the flow on Queen street, allowing access from Southway. Otherwise just closing the High street would cause a lot of local traffic issues. mirokou

8:52pm Tue 22 Jan 13

CJ1989 says...

With any luck this start date will be pushed back like all the previous ones, allowing common sense to prevail. I'm not sure it will, but we can hope.

It may well be a trial, but I can imagine it'll be so breathtakingly expensive they'll never un-do it.

From a 30-second glance at a map they'll need to make make head street 2 way (or have an absurd turning around arrangement for the cars that accidentally go up north hill), do something with Southway, have 2 way traffic down west stockwell street (presumably change all the parking restrictions too down there to make it wide enough), sort out the rest of the Dutch quarter so it's accessible, pay some sort of compensation to all the residents and businesses down there who have to re-locate their parking, probably tackle a few legal challenges, pay a fortune in road markings and new signs... The list goes on.

So yes it's a trial, but given the millions they just spend on some raised kerbs (/"bus station"), how much will this 'trial' cost? They'll bankrupt themselves doing it, and won't have the money to change it back a year later, so will do anything to postpone reverting back to the current situation.

Then they'll either keep this half-baked nonsense (we lose out) or they'll change it back, doubling the cost of their initial misadventure (we lose out even more).

Does anyone know who is actually, personally responsible for this plan? Everything seems very vague, we keep hearing it's just 'Essex and Colchester Councils', I want a name to write to!
With any luck this start date will be pushed back like all the previous ones, allowing common sense to prevail. I'm not sure it will, but we can hope. It may well be a trial, but I can imagine it'll be so breathtakingly expensive they'll never un-do it. From a 30-second glance at a map they'll need to make make head street 2 way (or have an absurd turning around arrangement for the cars that accidentally go up north hill), do something with Southway, have 2 way traffic down west stockwell street (presumably change all the parking restrictions too down there to make it wide enough), sort out the rest of the Dutch quarter so it's accessible, pay some sort of compensation to all the residents and businesses down there who have to re-locate their parking, probably tackle a few legal challenges, pay a fortune in road markings and new signs... The list goes on. So yes it's a trial, but given the millions they just spend on some raised kerbs (/"bus station"), how much will this 'trial' cost? They'll bankrupt themselves doing it, and won't have the money to change it back a year later, so will do anything to postpone reverting back to the current situation. Then they'll either keep this half-baked nonsense (we lose out) or they'll change it back, doubling the cost of their initial misadventure (we lose out even more). Does anyone know who is actually, personally responsible for this plan? Everything seems very vague, we keep hearing it's just 'Essex and Colchester Councils', I want a name to write to! CJ1989

7:34am Wed 23 Jan 13

DShep says...

They have messed up the bus station now they are going to mess up the High Street why does this council not get it into their heads that thet are distroying COLCHESTER. Do these people actually live in Colchester and shop here or do they go to Ipswich and Chelmsford etc like a lot of other Colchesterians. Why do they not spend the money repairing potholes/street lighting etc.
They have messed up the bus station now they are going to mess up the High Street why does this council not get it into their heads that thet are distroying COLCHESTER. Do these people actually live in Colchester and shop here or do they go to Ipswich and Chelmsford etc like a lot of other Colchesterians. Why do they not spend the money repairing potholes/street lighting etc. DShep

9:54am Wed 23 Jan 13

wellnow says...

Are all the councillors masochistic?
Are all the councillors masochistic? wellnow

12:02pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Jess Jephcott says...

I like the council's thinking. They have obviously changed their minds about this to draw the moaning minnies away from the subject of the new bus terminal. I hope they come up with lots of ideas like this, as it keeps the bile flowing and me laughing at you all. ...and thanks CBC. As a motorcyclist, I still get to use the High Street. Love it!
I like the council's thinking. They have obviously changed their minds about this to draw the moaning minnies away from the subject of the new bus terminal. I hope they come up with lots of ideas like this, as it keeps the bile flowing and me laughing at you all. ...and thanks CBC. As a motorcyclist, I still get to use the High Street. Love it! Jess Jephcott

12:11pm Wed 23 Jan 13

SamEssex says...

jim_bo wrote:
Whilst i agree that its a terrible idea.

Stand at the side of the road and watch how many cars actually use the High st.
Not many, why cos the constant stopping by the traffic lights make it a very boring drive.

Honestly, when was the last time you drove down the High St, me probably a year ago to look at the Christmas lights with an elderly relative. Otherwise i avoid it like the plague.
10 minutes ago I live off of it though lol
[quote][p][bold]jim_bo[/bold] wrote: Whilst i agree that its a terrible idea. Stand at the side of the road and watch how many cars actually use the High st. Not many, why cos the constant stopping by the traffic lights make it a very boring drive. Honestly, when was the last time you drove down the High St, me probably a year ago to look at the Christmas lights with an elderly relative. Otherwise i avoid it like the plague.[/p][/quote]10 minutes ago I live off of it though lol SamEssex

1:09pm Wed 23 Jan 13

meadowlady says...

I'm getting a green motorbike for St. Patrick's day.
I'm getting a green motorbike for St. Patrick's day. meadowlady

4:07pm Wed 23 Jan 13

YesIAm says...

Glad this is finally happening...in my view doesn't go far enough though...it should be fully pedestrianised to make the high street a much more pleasant place to shop.
Glad this is finally happening...in my view doesn't go far enough though...it should be fully pedestrianised to make the high street a much more pleasant place to shop. YesIAm

5:24pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Jess Jephcott says...

Take care Meadowlady. They're not toys.
Take care Meadowlady. They're not toys. Jess Jephcott

7:07pm Wed 23 Jan 13

jut1972 says...

I dont think this will cost as much as you think and if I remember rightly it was ECC who pushed for the trial, so chances are its ECC highways who are paying for it.

The council is damned if it does and damned if it don't... if they do nothing we **** about the death of the town centre, they propose a trial and we still moan.

Allowing motorbikes is just daft though. They can already cut through traffic jams so why they need special treatment escapes me. Just ban all vechiles apart from emerbency vechiles and be done with it.
I dont think this will cost as much as you think and if I remember rightly it was ECC who pushed for the trial, so chances are its ECC highways who are paying for it. The council is damned if it does and damned if it don't... if they do nothing we **** about the death of the town centre, they propose a trial and we still moan. Allowing motorbikes is just daft though. They can already cut through traffic jams so why they need special treatment escapes me. Just ban all vechiles apart from emerbency vechiles and be done with it. jut1972

8:08pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Wicky1 says...

Why is it daft? - when you can fit 3-5 motorbikes into the space 1 car takes to park. Hopefully they'll expand the bike parking bays in the High St. We are also currently allowed in bus lanes throughout Colchester, as a way of encouraging the use of bikes for urban transport.

"Allowing motorbikes is just daft though. They can already cut through traffic jams so why they need special treatment escapes me."
Why is it daft? - when you can fit 3-5 motorbikes into the space 1 car takes to park. Hopefully they'll expand the bike parking bays in the High St. We are also currently allowed in bus lanes throughout Colchester, as a way of encouraging the use of bikes for urban transport. "Allowing motorbikes is just daft though. They can already cut through traffic jams so why they need special treatment escapes me." Wicky1

9:16pm Wed 23 Jan 13

jut1972 says...

Because this is about pedestrianisation and creating an environment where people can wander around. How long before some idiot who doesn't look both ways is hit by another idiot roaring down the road?
Because this is about pedestrianisation and creating an environment where people can wander around. How long before some idiot who doesn't look both ways is hit by another idiot roaring down the road? jut1972

9:16pm Wed 23 Jan 13

jut1972 says...

Because this is about pedestrianisation and creating an environment where people can wander around. How long before some idiot who doesn't look both ways is hit by another idiot roaring down the road?
Because this is about pedestrianisation and creating an environment where people can wander around. How long before some idiot who doesn't look both ways is hit by another idiot roaring down the road? jut1972

9:44pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Wicky1 says...

Being hit by a bike is a more preferable option than getting hit by a bus or taxi.

Besides if the bike is "roaring" along then the poor pedestrian might have a warning before their paths meet - 'Loud Pipes Save Lives' and all that ;-)
Being hit by a bike is a more preferable option than getting hit by a bus or taxi. Besides if the bike is "roaring" along then the poor pedestrian might have a warning before their paths meet - 'Loud Pipes Save Lives' and all that ;-) Wicky1

11:36pm Wed 23 Jan 13

CJ1989 says...

Jess Jephcott wrote:
I like the council's thinking. They have obviously changed their minds about this to draw the moaning minnies away from the subject of the new bus terminal. I hope they come up with lots of ideas like this, as it keeps the bile flowing and me laughing at you all. ...and thanks CBC. As a motorcyclist, I still get to use the High Street. Love it!
If you read the comments, you'll notice that no-one's actually complaining about not being able to drive their cars down the high street.

People are annoyed about not being consulted, having their money wasted, and the knock-on effects on other roads.

It's your money too that's being thrown around, and while you can gleefully cruise down the high street on your bike, you're still going to have to navigate through the congested mess this'll cause in the dutch quarter and other nearby roads.

'Love it'? Each to their own I suppose.
[quote][p][bold]Jess Jephcott[/bold] wrote: I like the council's thinking. They have obviously changed their minds about this to draw the moaning minnies away from the subject of the new bus terminal. I hope they come up with lots of ideas like this, as it keeps the bile flowing and me laughing at you all. ...and thanks CBC. As a motorcyclist, I still get to use the High Street. Love it![/p][/quote]If you read the comments, you'll notice that no-one's actually complaining about not being able to drive their cars down the high street. People are annoyed about not being consulted, having their money wasted, and the knock-on effects on other roads. It's your money too that's being thrown around, and while you can gleefully cruise down the high street on your bike, you're still going to have to navigate through the congested mess this'll cause in the dutch quarter and other nearby roads. 'Love it'? Each to their own I suppose. CJ1989

12:47pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Jess Jephcott says...

It was irony CJ. I want a total ban on motorised vehicles in the High Street. I don't want to be able to ride my bike down a High Street that could and should be used by pedestrians and a market and street cafes. This measure is half hearted and done to appease the whining taxi drivers and obstinate disabled drivers. Colchester's bus users have already proved that they can whine for England and win the contest. Do the job properly CBC or not at all!
It was irony CJ. I want a total ban on motorised vehicles in the High Street. I don't want to be able to ride my bike down a High Street that could and should be used by pedestrians and a market and street cafes. This measure is half hearted and done to appease the whining taxi drivers and obstinate disabled drivers. Colchester's bus users have already proved that they can whine for England and win the contest. Do the job properly CBC or not at all! Jess Jephcott

6:51pm Thu 24 Jan 13

CJ1989 says...

Gotcha, apologies for my apparent irony deficiency!
Gotcha, apologies for my apparent irony deficiency! CJ1989

7:20pm Thu 24 Jan 13

rowhedge-dave says...

Isn’t this a bit like saying someone who suffers from a nut allergy that ”it only contains a few nuts!”

Surely it’s either pedestrianised or its not, and I suspect there is little difference between being knocked over by a taxi or private car.

But perhaps those who came up with this bonkers idea could give a try and report back!
Isn’t this a bit like saying someone who suffers from a nut allergy that ”it only contains a few nuts!” Surely it’s either pedestrianised or its not, and I suspect there is little difference between being knocked over by a taxi or private car. But perhaps those who came up with this bonkers idea could give a try and report back! rowhedge-dave

8:15pm Thu 24 Jan 13

Joker50 says...

I remember years ago a woman getting killed by a motorbike in the high street, my next door neighbour witnessed it.
I remember years ago a woman getting killed by a motorbike in the high street, my next door neighbour witnessed it. Joker50

1:19am Fri 25 Jan 13

John Vencato says...

The matter has been talked about for long enough.
It is now the time and the opportunity for all of us to give the experiment a chance to go ahead and function.
If it works then it will be a great enhancement to the town in its new vein.
Should it prove not successful then we can all put our heads together collectively and offer some sensible debate on the issue.
It will start in a lovely time of the year so let us all enjoy the new move with some degree of enthusiasm. John Vencato+
The matter has been talked about for long enough. It is now the time and the opportunity for all of us to give the experiment a chance to go ahead and function. If it works then it will be a great enhancement to the town in its new vein. Should it prove not successful then we can all put our heads together collectively and offer some sensible debate on the issue. It will start in a lovely time of the year so let us all enjoy the new move with some degree of enthusiasm. John Vencato+ John Vencato

5:22pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Carlosfandangles says...

One point that is being massively overlooked is what would be attractive about the High Street from a pedestrians point of view if it was fully car, bus and bike free?

Hardly an avenue of delightful shops?

Sitting outside the pubs would be nice......beyond that you have charity shops, fast food joints and banks.

Market stalls may possibly work but only if aligned correctly as not to cause total pedestrian congestion!

Personally, even if pedestrianised, I do not believe it will enhance the town at all.
One point that is being massively overlooked is what would be attractive about the High Street from a pedestrians point of view if it was fully car, bus and bike free? Hardly an avenue of delightful shops? Sitting outside the pubs would be nice......beyond that you have charity shops, fast food joints and banks. Market stalls may possibly work but only if aligned correctly as not to cause total pedestrian congestion! Personally, even if pedestrianised, I do not believe it will enhance the town at all. Carlosfandangles

5:32pm Fri 25 Jan 13

Wicky1 says...

It's been pending for years - It's only now being implemented with the opening of new courthouse, otherwise they would have had to walk (or go by taxi or bus) the defendants in custody to the old court at the town hall.
It's been pending for years - It's only now being implemented with the opening of new courthouse, otherwise they would have had to walk (or go by taxi or bus) the defendants in custody to the old court at the town hall. Wicky1

10:11am Sat 26 Jan 13

Gladiator of Colchester says...

As some who deal in cash bank in town, how far are they supposed to walk with their takings and deposits then ??. Should we park in a car park and walk to the bank with a target on our back ??? It is difficult enough now. How will those who buy goods from stores in the High Street that are difficult to carry or require collecting going to collect their goods, do they have to wait till the High Street opens again and the shop has to wait for them, or do they have to come back another day before it closes ??? In some cases, how do those shops deliver their goods if they can't get them from their shop ??? ANSWER...SHOP AND BANK SOMEWHERE ELSE...
As some who deal in cash bank in town, how far are they supposed to walk with their takings and deposits then ??. Should we park in a car park and walk to the bank with a target on our back ??? It is difficult enough now. How will those who buy goods from stores in the High Street that are difficult to carry or require collecting going to collect their goods, do they have to wait till the High Street opens again and the shop has to wait for them, or do they have to come back another day before it closes ??? In some cases, how do those shops deliver their goods if they can't get them from their shop ??? ANSWER...SHOP AND BANK SOMEWHERE ELSE... Gladiator of Colchester

12:17pm Sat 26 Jan 13

Grabber says...

High street banks have access from Culver street west which is open to cars before 11am and after 4pm Monday to Thursday no need to go down the high street.
High street banks have access from Culver street west which is open to cars before 11am and after 4pm Monday to Thursday no need to go down the high street. Grabber

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