'Small club U's got preferential treatment in planning row'

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RESIDENTS have hit out at councillors who backed plans for Colchester United to use its Tiptree training ground for longer.

Colchester Council planning committee granted the club permission at a meeting attended by about 250 people on Thursday.

The club had argued the extra hours are needed in order to gain category two Premier League youth academy status, which would put the club on a par with some of the top clubs in England.

But Terry Shuttleworth, a spokesman for the campaigners, said: “The club offered no convincing argument as to why their Grange Road facility should be open seven days a week between August and April other than the fact that by seeking Premier League academy status without having the required facilities, they have bitten off more than they can chew.”

He added: “It seems that in modern Britain everyone must bow down to the Great God Football.

“Why else would a group of councillors elected to serve and protect the interests of ordinary hard-working families simply cave in to the demands of Robbie Cowling?"

Approval means the Grange Road training ground can be used between 9.30am and 3.30pm on weekdays between August and April and between 10am and 5pm on weekdays in July, but the residents claimed a small victory, with councillors agreeing no tournaments, youth or otherwise, can take place between May and June.

The application was approved by seven votes to four.

Mr Shuttleworth added: “Once again, a very small football club, of an average gate of 3,500, gets a very big leg-up from Colchester Council.

Theresa Higgins, chair of the planning committee, said: “We are a quasi judicial committee and we have to follow the laws of the land.

“When a planning application comes before us, in order to refuse it, we have to have material planning considerations.

“During the debate, nobody offered a motion for refusal. The only proposal was one for acceptance with conditions.”

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3:19pm Mon 7 Jan 13

TheCaptain says...

When will these people stop complaining?

I like the fact that the little victory is no training in May and June. I believe this is when footballers are on holiday.
When will these people stop complaining? I like the fact that the little victory is no training in May and June. I believe this is when footballers are on holiday. TheCaptain
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3:44pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

Teresa Higgins says the planning committee are a quasi judicial committee who has to follow the laws of the land?

If that is the case why did the very same planning committee, who placed conditions on the original application, not enforcce those conditions and in doing so follow the laws of the land?

Surely previous conditions were a valid reason for refusal!

Of course the usual suspects will say Blah, Blah, Blah but clearly the integraty and actions of council officers and the councillors, who approved this application, is at the least a very questionable decision.
Teresa Higgins says the planning committee are a quasi judicial committee who has to follow the laws of the land? If that is the case why did the very same planning committee, who placed conditions on the original application, not enforcce those conditions and in doing so follow the laws of the land? Surely previous conditions were a valid reason for refusal! Of course the usual suspects will say Blah, Blah, Blah but clearly the integraty and actions of council officers and the councillors, who approved this application, is at the least a very questionable decision. Say It As It Is OK?
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4:01pm Mon 7 Jan 13

TheCaptain says...

The conditions on the original agreed application were fine at the time. Things change and new hours were required. A planning application was submitted and passed as per the law. What is the problem.

Planning applications are submitted and passed (or refused) changing use conditions. Nothing odd have happened.
The conditions on the original agreed application were fine at the time. Things change and new hours were required. A planning application was submitted and passed as per the law. What is the problem. Planning applications are submitted and passed (or refused) changing use conditions. Nothing odd have happened. TheCaptain
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4:28pm Mon 7 Jan 13

super waluigi says...

Apart from provocation towards everyone who reads this story, regardless of their opinions towards the training ground and its hours, this new thread adds nothing.

It is funny how people (counsellors and spokesman included) speak nonsense when arguing a case.
Apart from provocation towards everyone who reads this story, regardless of their opinions towards the training ground and its hours, this new thread adds nothing. It is funny how people (counsellors and spokesman included) speak nonsense when arguing a case. super waluigi
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4:35pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Say It As It Is OK? says...

TheCaptain wrote:
The conditions on the original agreed application were fine at the time. Things change and new hours were required. A planning application was submitted and passed as per the law. What is the problem.

Planning applications are submitted and passed (or refused) changing use conditions. Nothing odd have happened.
Blah, Blah. Nothing changed! Robbie Cowling ignored the conditions as soon as Florence Park was completed. Whatever anyone says that's fact.
[quote][p][bold]TheCaptain[/bold] wrote: The conditions on the original agreed application were fine at the time. Things change and new hours were required. A planning application was submitted and passed as per the law. What is the problem. Planning applications are submitted and passed (or refused) changing use conditions. Nothing odd have happened.[/p][/quote]Blah, Blah. Nothing changed! Robbie Cowling ignored the conditions as soon as Florence Park was completed. Whatever anyone says that's fact. Say It As It Is OK?
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4:40pm Mon 7 Jan 13

angryman!!! says...

How about another small victory they won't use it at 3 o'clock on Saturdays.
I can't wait to see the day cowling sells the land off for housing and its full of social housing with Londons off spill filling it up, what a silly little man, what on earth has the size of the clubs support got to do with it, do bigger supported clubs need to train longer? Gimp
How about another small victory they won't use it at 3 o'clock on Saturdays. I can't wait to see the day cowling sells the land off for housing and its full of social housing with Londons off spill filling it up, what a silly little man, what on earth has the size of the clubs support got to do with it, do bigger supported clubs need to train longer? Gimp angryman!!!
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5:24pm Mon 7 Jan 13

wearebeingwatched says...

TheCaptain wrote:
When will these people stop complaining?

I like the fact that the little victory is no training in May and June. I believe this is when footballers are on holiday.
Although this is the time when the club run a lot trial games to look at new players, be these young or those that are out of contract at other clubs. So it is actually a bigger loss to the club than it seems on the face of it.
[quote][p][bold]TheCaptain[/bold] wrote: When will these people stop complaining? I like the fact that the little victory is no training in May and June. I believe this is when footballers are on holiday.[/p][/quote]Although this is the time when the club run a lot trial games to look at new players, be these young or those that are out of contract at other clubs. So it is actually a bigger loss to the club than it seems on the face of it. wearebeingwatched
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6:26pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Boris says...

"Mr Shuttleworth added: “Once again, a very small football club, of an average gate of 3,500, gets a very big leg-up from Colchester Council."
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I should think so too. Colchester United puts the town on the map. People who have never heard of Colchester Castle or its park, or Jumbo, let alone the VAF, have all heard of the famous CUFC. Who has heard of Terry Shuttleworth?
Somebody posts here from time to time demanding independence for Tiptree. Why doesn't Mr Shuttleworth lead a movement for independence? Then, when he has succeeded, he can nationalise the CUFC training ground, and turn it back into open park land or whatever his faithful followers want to see.
"Mr Shuttleworth added: “Once again, a very small football club, of an average gate of 3,500, gets a very big leg-up from Colchester Council." . I should think so too. Colchester United puts the town on the map. People who have never heard of Colchester Castle or its park, or Jumbo, let alone the VAF, have all heard of the famous CUFC. Who has heard of Terry Shuttleworth? Somebody posts here from time to time demanding independence for Tiptree. Why doesn't Mr Shuttleworth lead a movement for independence? Then, when he has succeeded, he can nationalise the CUFC training ground, and turn it back into open park land or whatever his faithful followers want to see. Boris
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8:40pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Dillinga says...

"Terry Shuttleworth, a spokesman for the campaigners, said: “The club offered no convincing argument as to why their Grange Road facility should be open seven days a week between August and April"

And it would seem Mr Shuttleworth and his NIMBY brigade could offer no convincing argument why it shouldn't.

Common sense 1-0 Sad acts
"Terry Shuttleworth, a spokesman for the campaigners, said: “The club offered no convincing argument as to why their Grange Road facility should be open seven days a week between August and April" And it would seem Mr Shuttleworth and his NIMBY brigade could offer no convincing argument why it shouldn't. Common sense 1-0 Sad acts Dillinga
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9:58pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Feisty CBC says...

What the Tiptree residents opposed to the "extended hours" failed to realise was although the hours may be extended it doesn't mean they will be utilised. Simply gained to achieve category two Premier League youth academy status.
What the Tiptree residents opposed to the "extended hours" failed to realise was although the hours may be extended it doesn't mean they will be utilised. Simply gained to achieve category two Premier League youth academy status. Feisty CBC
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7:06am Tue 8 Jan 13

Dug says...

Tiptree is just a very large, boring village.

I had the misfortune to work there for several years and one of the biggest bonuses about changing jobs was that I now only very rarely visit the place!
Tiptree is just a very large, boring village. I had the misfortune to work there for several years and one of the biggest bonuses about changing jobs was that I now only very rarely visit the place! Dug
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7:26am Tue 8 Jan 13

Clacc says...

"Mr Shuttleworth added: “Once again, a very small football club, of an average gate of 3,500, gets a very big leg-up from Colchester Council."

What's this once again then
Mr S'**** ?

If you were actually a local man you'd know that although our gates might be lower than the size of the town merits ,in fact there's a lot of affection for Colchester United amongst real local people. In those people's eyes (as in my own) you must seem a very petty person indeed.
"Mr Shuttleworth added: “Once again, a very small football club, of an average gate of 3,500, gets a very big leg-up from Colchester Council." What's this once again then Mr S'**** ? If you were actually a local man you'd know that although our gates might be lower than the size of the town merits ,in fact there's a lot of affection for Colchester United amongst real local people. In those people's eyes (as in my own) you must seem a very petty person indeed. Clacc
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7:28am Tue 8 Jan 13

Clacc says...

Ooops I posted Mr S'C.o.c.k by mistake and was automatically edited.
Ooops I posted Mr S'C.o.c.k by mistake and was automatically edited. Clacc
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8:43pm Tue 8 Jan 13

whittle1 says...

Dug wrote:
Tiptree is just a very large, boring village.

I had the misfortune to work there for several years and one of the biggest bonuses about changing jobs was that I now only very rarely visit the place!
Did you work for Cowling then Dug? Tiptree's actually a great place to work and is clearly a much better place without a moronic idiot such as you. Good riddance.
[quote][p][bold]Dug[/bold] wrote: Tiptree is just a very large, boring village. I had the misfortune to work there for several years and one of the biggest bonuses about changing jobs was that I now only very rarely visit the place![/p][/quote]Did you work for Cowling then Dug? Tiptree's actually a great place to work and is clearly a much better place without a moronic idiot such as you. Good riddance. whittle1
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7:28pm Sat 12 Jan 13

Dug says...

Tee hee Whittle! Your comment was pointed out by friends of mine, as I'd moved on to more important news...

To answer your question, Colchester United will get what they deserve. I couldn't care less where they finish this season. I couldn't care less about Cowling either.

My point was that Tiptree is an extremely large and very boring village, nothing more.

Pray, tell me what it has to offer to any visitor? Wilkins Jam visitors' area? Mo's Cafe? the Anchor Pub? the New Times? LOL!!

Also look up idiot and moron, as the context of your statement makes you look stupid.

I'm from Brightlingsea - a proper community!
Tee hee Whittle! Your comment was pointed out by friends of mine, as I'd moved on to more important news... To answer your question, Colchester United will get what they deserve. I couldn't care less where they finish this season. I couldn't care less about Cowling either. My point was that Tiptree is an extremely large and very boring village, nothing more. Pray, tell me what it has to offer to any visitor? Wilkins Jam visitors' area? Mo's Cafe? the Anchor Pub? the New Times? LOL!! Also look up idiot and moron, as the context of your statement makes you look stupid. I'm from Brightlingsea - a proper community! Dug
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